1. Mesmer solo can not kill any bunker in less than a min(Guardian/Warrior/staff ele or bunkerish spec (cele ele, war, engi, condi necro).
2. Many things can kill shatter mesmer Med guards, cele war, ele, engi, zerk lb ranger, condi necro/ranger etc...
3. Its a high risk high reward spec with counters and is not a req spec for a serious team
You have been able to reply to all posts in a timely manner got a lot of free time on your hands?
Any way guys I think that shatter mesmer is viable, more viable than celest ele? well its all a matter of opinion just like everything the op has stated through out this post.
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Zerker specs are the most balanced and fun to play specs of the game. Anything in the game should follow this path.
Nerf celestial, Nerf bunkers, let’s all play high risk high reward instead.
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but they’re a lot stronger
than they will be next year!
Zerker specs are the most balanced and fun to play specs of the game. Anything in the game should follow this path.
Nerf celestial, Nerf bunkers, let’s all play high risk high reward instead.
I completely disagree with you. IMO they need to nerf the extremes, like too much offensive zekers and too much defensive unlikable bunkers. Celestial is the way to go. When everyone has similar stats the class balance is easier and more precise. But a bunker is not as much of a problem as the cancer zerker builds. If I wanted to play a game where everyone kills everyone in 5seconds I would be playing a FPS like CoD or BF. In a long fight the player has to do more movements, more combos, has to stay more time without making mistakes.
Man this guy Dudis is true esports. He probably plays cele mesmer. No I don’t play shatter mesmer. No shatter mesmer is not good at 1v1. No shatter mesmer is not OP or even close to it. No shatter mesmer can’t kill a bunker guard solo. No shatter mesmer does not keep other zerkers out of the meta. Basically everything you have said is a characteristic of the thief class, not mesmer. And neither need a nerf. If this guy isn’t trolling, I don’t know what to say. High risk builds are cancer? OP go play cele ele and then play shatter mes right after. Do you really think mesmer is OP in comparison to ele? Mesmer is easily the worst class right now, and you basically have to build a team around a mesmer because they need maximum protection. You NEED a thief with a mesmer. A class that needs to “be carried” is not OP. Cele ele, a class that carries every fight and every situation, is OP. The reason cele fights take so long isn’t because their doing “magical combos and working together”. It’s because they are all self sustaining bunkers that can kite, DPS, rotate on and off point, have high mobility, and HIGH SUPPORT to keep teamfights going forever. It doesn’t take skill to play such a comp.
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Man this guy Dudis is true esports. He probably plays cele mesmer. No I don’t play shatter mesmer. No shatter mesmer is not good at 1v1. No shatter mesmer is not OP or even close to it. No shatter mesmer can’t kill a bunker guard solo. No shatter mesmer does not keep other zerkers out of the meta. Basically everything you have said is a characteristic of the thief class, not mesmer. And neither need a nerf. If this guy isn’t trolling, I don’t know what to say. High risk builds are cancer? OP go play cele ele and then play shatter mes right after. Do you really think mesmer is OP in comparison to ele? Mesmer is easily the worst class right now, and you basically have to build a team around a mesmer because they need maximum protection. You NEED a thief with a mesmer. A class that needs to “be carried” is not OP. Cele ele, a class that carries every fight and every situation, is OP. The reason cele fights take so long isn’t because their doing “magical combos and working together”. It’s because they are all self sustaining bunkers that can kite, DPS, rotate on and off point, have high mobility, and HIGH SUPPORT to keep teamfights going forever. It doesn’t take skill to play such a comp.
If it was so bad would be that had to be carried would be so used in the top teams. It has the most op 1v1 skill in the game moa, it has also the most unique mobility skill in the game: portal.
Celestial staff ele is not as op as a mesmer in a 1v1. And if they go d/d celestial they are semi-melee class, not like the mesmer ranged.
Even the other cheese builds like passive fear terrormancer, turrent engi, MM necro, etc ..are not so toxic to the game as the mesmer is. One thing is win almost all 1v1 and be a slow mobility class. Other completely different is have one of the best mobility and be the king of damage spike.
People saying mesmer is balance are like the warriors who said old hambow, old sw+dg was fine and balance because they played one. All the classes that someday got a needed nerf were claimed to be balance by the players using it.
If you notice the winrates on that reddit thread, they are actually really balanced except for the elementalist and engineer. 52-47% winrate for 6 of 8 classes is really good and doesn’t show you anything. The only thing I do see however, is the pick rate of mesmer, which is all the way at the bottom. Doesn’t it make sense that they win “more often” (barely 2% more) then other classes. Most mesmer players will main it and not hop to the next best fotm thing.
Also, the meta needs to shift towards more glass cannon builds. Fights are not boring things that last 5 ages. You actually need to dodge the hard hitting skills from other classes, unlike your precious celestial bunkers that can face tank it and then heal back.
Almost all bunkers counter glass cannon builds and here you are complaining about zerker builds. Zerker builds promote active play and counterplay as well.
You should complain about the engineer who has an undodgeble burning proc (it’s like mind wrack on auto’s!) and their toolkit block which gives them almost more immune uptime than mesmer WITH tanky amulet stats and more fields/blasts.
One fear bomb with some burning and bleeds is able to kill the mesmer without any real effort. If you can’t land something like that in a fight, you need to get better.
1. Mesmer solo can not kill any bunker in less than a min(Guardian/Warrior/staff ele or bunkerish spec (cele ele, war, engi, condi necro).
2. Many things can kill shatter mesmer Med guards, cele war, ele, engi, zerk lb ranger, condi necro/ranger etc…
3. Its a high risk high reward spec with counters and is not a req spec for a serious team
You have been able to reply to all posts in a timely manner got a lot of free time on your hands?
Any way guys I think that shatter mesmer is viable, more viable than celest ele? well its all a matter of opinion just like everything the op has stated through out this post.
If a class runs 0 condi clear, almost no defensive traits, zerker+runes of the traveller and is still top meta op it obviously need a rework in the mechanics.
Yeah, because bunkers and condispammers have much more interesting mechanics and higher skill requirements. Rabbie, pls.
Macros and phantasms need a nerf… but mainly macros.
I doubt most mesmers use macros. I’ve been called out for it before, but I don’t use them. Once you play it a lot, you can do any combo really fast and a macro forces you into the same combo over and over which limits flexibility.
Man this guy Dudis is true esports. He probably plays cele mesmer. No I don’t play shatter mesmer. No shatter mesmer is not good at 1v1. No shatter mesmer is not OP or even close to it. No shatter mesmer can’t kill a bunker guard solo. No shatter mesmer does not keep other zerkers out of the meta. Basically everything you have said is a characteristic of the thief class, not mesmer. And neither need a nerf. If this guy isn’t trolling, I don’t know what to say. High risk builds are cancer? OP go play cele ele and then play shatter mes right after. Do you really think mesmer is OP in comparison to ele? Mesmer is easily the worst class right now, and you basically have to build a team around a mesmer because they need maximum protection. You NEED a thief with a mesmer. A class that needs to “be carried” is not OP. Cele ele, a class that carries every fight and every situation, is OP. The reason cele fights take so long isn’t because their doing “magical combos and working together”. It’s because they are all self sustaining bunkers that can kite, DPS, rotate on and off point, have high mobility, and HIGH SUPPORT to keep teamfights going forever. It doesn’t take skill to play such a comp.
- Shatter Mesmers are one the best in normal 1v1 (offpoint)
- Shatter Mesmers are the worst for 1v1 (on point)
- Shatter Mesmers have little to no condi cleanse (poison and one other damaging condi is enough; only need a bit of time)
- Shatter Mesmer mobility is not as strong (without frwd PR), therefore current meta forces them taking Rune of the Traveler.
- Shatter Mesmer has HUGE responsebility, both in using Elite (Moa or Mass Invis), calling out portals and burst coordination. (EG Thief/Mesmer comp)
- Shatter Mesmer has lowest error margin through all meta-builds.
- Shatter Mesmer is easily to be countered and focused upon.
- Shatter Mesmer can turn tide in teamfights.
Conclusion: Playing Shatter Mesmer decently demands skill. While some other meta builds only ask for little knowledge. I do not think Shatter Mesmer should be nerfed.
Points given above are thoughts and experiences from Team Arena.
I barely play Shatter Mesmer, but I do respect good Shatter Mesmers.
All in all, Shatter Mesmer in Team Arena is a high risk = high reward spec.
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- Shatter Mesmers are one the best in normal 1v1 (offpoint)
- Shatter Mesmers are the worst for 1v1 (on point)
- Shatter Mesmers have little to no condi cleanse (poison and one other damaging condi is enough; only need a bit of time)
- Shatter Mesmer mobility is not as strong (without frwd PR), therefore current meta forces them taking Rune of the Traveler.
- Shatter Mesmer has HUGE responsebility, both in using Elite (Moa or Mass Invis), calling out portals and burst coordination. (EG Thief/Mesmer comp)
- Shatter Mesmer has lowest error margin through all meta-builds.
- Shatter Mesmer is easily to be countered and focused upon.
- Shatter Mesmer can turn tide in teamfights.
Conclusion: Playing Shatter Mesmer decently demands skill. While some other meta builds only ask for little knowledge. I do not think Shatter Mesmer should be nerfed.
Points given above are thoughts and experiences from Team Arena.
I barely play Shatter Mesmer, but I do respect good Shatter Mesmers.
All in all, Shatter Mesmer in Team Arena is a high risk = high reward spec.
I agree with this mostly
But lets all not act like in an open field duel off point a shatter mesmer isn’t one of the best specs in game – it has all the tools to avoid damage/conditions
The ability to kite with a shatter mesmer is pretty insane – a warrior will literally not land a single hit using a melee weapon set
If we ever get team death match it will be hilarious when we see how broken stealth and kiting is – Thief and Mesmer are thankfully held back because of capture points
Be hard or easy to play also is not a good argument. The balance should be done based on how the best players perform with the class not how the normal or bad player perform. No class should be broken and king of 1v1 just because it is “harder” to play.
And ‘based on how the best players perform with the class’ is a valid argument?
For crying out loud what where you thinking, Just please try to play it on a high level.
There are way too many classes who can beat a shatter mesmer up at this very moment, watching top players fighting each other. Most of the time I find myself trying to run away from another d/p thief who’s waiting to get me backstabbed.
Shatter mesmer is absolutly the class that needs a nerf the least. About the top players you’re talking about, I am very curious who you watched and especially, who were the opposite ‘top players’. If they can not destroy a mesmer, it depends more on the opposite player than the mesmer himself.
And please now go, eat a cookie or something, but leave shatter mesmers, we’ve been destroyed for way too long.
So, let me get this straight. You think turret engis, MM necros, etc. are not as toxic to the community as a mesmer is? Dude, pull your head out of your butt and sop up the tears. Just because you can’t beat a good mesmer doesn’t mean anet should bring all classes and all specs down to your level. Not every class can be as mindless as turret engi or MM necros. If anything I implore more people to try shatter mesmer and try and run it efficiently. Go ahead, try it yourself. I bet you will re-think your whole argument when you die repeatedly cuz you think you can tab out and your illusions will do all the work for you like a turret engi. You are practically the only one making counter arguments to nerf one of the most balanced classes in the game.
So, let me get this straight. You think turret engis, MM necros, etc. are not as toxic to the community as a mesmer is? Dude, pull your head out of your butt and sop up the tears. Just because you can’t beat a good mesmer doesn’t mean anet should bring all classes and all specs down to your level. Not every class can be as mindless as turret engi or MM necros. If anything I implore more people to try shatter mesmer and try and run it efficiently. Go ahead, try it yourself. I bet you will re-think your whole argument when you die repeatedly cuz you think you can tab out and your illusions will do all the work for you like a turret engi. You are practically the only one making counter arguments to nerf one of the most balanced classes in the game.
If you think MM is mindless your an idiot. Just because you play MM by watching your minions attack while spamming 1 doesn’t mean that is the way MM is played. And I can say Mesmer is just as “mindless” because all you do is staff 2 run in circles and spam f1.
So, let me get this straight. You think turret engis, MM necros, etc. are not as toxic to the community as a mesmer is? Dude, pull your head out of your butt and sop up the tears. Just because you can’t beat a good mesmer doesn’t mean anet should bring all classes and all specs down to your level. Not every class can be as mindless as turret engi or MM necros. If anything I implore more people to try shatter mesmer and try and run it efficiently. Go ahead, try it yourself. I bet you will re-think your whole argument when you die repeatedly cuz you think you can tab out and your illusions will do all the work for you like a turret engi. You are practically the only one making counter arguments to nerf one of the most balanced classes in the game.
If you think MM is mindless your an idiot. Just because you play MM by watching your minions attack while spamming 1 doesn’t mean that is the way MM is played. And I can say Mesmer is just as “mindless” because all you do is staff 2 run in circles and spam f1.
Firstly, it’s impossible to play shatter like that. In fact, besides PU, mesmer has little to no “mindless” specs.
Secondly, no idea about MM. I imagine that it is possible to MM mindlessly, but works better if the MM is smart about their management. Accurate?
Now, let’s get back on topic and disprove this Dudis’s assumption that he knows enough to call for a shatter nerf.
So, let me get this straight. You think turret engis, MM necros, etc. are not as toxic to the community as a mesmer is? Dude, pull your head out of your butt and sop up the tears. Just because you can’t beat a good mesmer doesn’t mean anet should bring all classes and all specs down to your level. Not every class can be as mindless as turret engi or MM necros. If anything I implore more people to try shatter mesmer and try and run it efficiently. Go ahead, try it yourself. I bet you will re-think your whole argument when you die repeatedly cuz you think you can tab out and your illusions will do all the work for you like a turret engi. You are practically the only one making counter arguments to nerf one of the most balanced classes in the game.
If you think MM is mindless your an idiot. Just because you play MM by watching your minions attack while spamming 1 doesn’t mean that is the way MM is played. And I can say Mesmer is just as “mindless” because all you do is staff 2 run in circles and spam f1.
Firstly, it’s impossible to play shatter like that. In fact, besides PU, mesmer has little to no “mindless” specs.
Secondly, no idea about MM. I imagine that it is possible to MM mindlessly, but works better if the MM is smart about their management. Accurate?
Now, let’s get back on topic and disprove this Dudis’s assumption that he knows enough to call for a shatter nerf.
I main MM felt a bit offended by the comment. Lol. Continue with the discussion. Personally i feel Mesmer is fine how they are now. Shatter is effective but not over powered. (I don’t run Mesmer too much but from fighting against a bunch I never felt like they were invincible/unbeatable.)
But lets all not act like in an open field duel off point a shatter mesmer isn’t one of the best specs in game – it has all the tools to avoid damage/conditions
yeah too bad noone cares bout dueling arenas and kitten like that. Tpvp is conquest not duels…and noone is gonna 1v1 around map with mesmer in tpvp cause their thief is gonna jump on you in less than 10 secs..going alone with mesmer is a deathwish already…let alone going alone to yolo 1v1 in the middle of nowhere
A player get’s mad at a particular class and decides to roll one in spvp and they confirm that the class is OP and call for a nerf.
I don’t believe you have an 80 mesmer.
Otherwise I do believe you are being sincere
You need to learn how to fight them or ignore them.
i have a lv 15 mesmer…with 3500+ tournaments on it…you don’t need pve levels, we’re talking about fighting ppl in tpvp not mobs or wvsw zergs full of headless chickens xD
And dunno if you’re talking about PU or some other pve crap like that…but ignoring shatter mesmers is actually the fastest way to get wiped in teamfights…
A player get’s mad at a particular class and decides to roll one in spvp and they confirm that the class is OP and call for a nerf.
I don’t believe you have an 80 mesmer.
Otherwise I do believe you are being sincere
You need to learn how to fight them or ignore them.
i have a lv 15 mesmer…with 3500+ tournaments on it…you don’t need pve levels, we’re talking about fighting ppl in tpvp not mobs or wvsw zergs full of headless chickens xD
And dunno if you’re talking about PU or some other pve crap like that …but ignoring shatter mesmers is actually the fastest way to get wiped in teamfights…
Reading comprehension is vital if you are going to continue to post on these forums.
But hey, since you like to cherry pick one sentence out of a couple paragraphs, I can do the same.
Since when is PU a pve spec?
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OP.. What does it tell you that not a single person in this thread agreed with you?
Are we all just crazy? It’s us, right? Not you…
First a few replies already agreed with me. Second the forum as devs have previous stated is not enough to represent all the game community. Third I still think shatter mesmer and zerker specs need to be reworked. Out of 8 classes 2 are only good in zerker that is 25% of the classes. Clearly those classes need to have the zerker specs toned down in favor of other specs.
- Shatter Mesmers are one the best in normal 1v1 (offpoint)
- Shatter Mesmers are the worst for 1v1 (on point)
- Shatter Mesmers have little to no condi cleanse (poison and one other damaging condi is enough; only need a bit of time)
- Shatter Mesmer mobility is not as strong (without frwd PR), therefore current meta forces them taking Rune of the Traveler.
- Shatter Mesmer has HUGE responsebility, both in using Elite (Moa or Mass Invis), calling out portals and burst coordination. (EG Thief/Mesmer comp)
- Shatter Mesmer has lowest error margin through all meta-builds.
- Shatter Mesmer is easily to be countered and focused upon.
- Shatter Mesmer can turn tide in teamfights.
Conclusion: Playing Shatter Mesmer decently demands skill. While some other meta builds only ask for little knowledge. I do not think Shatter Mesmer should be nerfed.
Points given above are thoughts and experiences from Team Arena.
I barely play Shatter Mesmer, but I do respect good Shatter Mesmers.
All in all, Shatter Mesmer in Team Arena is a high risk = high reward spec.
I agree with this mostly
But lets all not act like in an open field duel off point a shatter mesmer isn’t one of the best specs in game – it has all the tools to avoid damage/conditions
The ability to kite with a shatter mesmer is pretty insane – a warrior will literally not land a single hit using a melee weapon set
If we ever get team death match it will be hilarious when we see how broken stealth and kiting is – Thief and Mesmer are thankfully held back because of capture points
Another player agreeing that shatter is a too op fighter off points and how kite is too strong.
Lets ignore PU and focus in the real cancer build, shatter. PU has almost 0 mobility, takes forever to kill any player, can be ignored, uses so much stealth that will lose the point even if fighting on it. Also PU got Debilitating Dissipation and Prismatic Understanding Nerfed.
The topic is getting too long I ca’tn read and reply everything. Anyway I have stated what I think about shatter mesmer. It is too strong, has way too few counters, and overwall toxic for the game. I would even go further and say zerker specs are the reason spvp is not a popular game mode. Probably there are more people doing living story or even jumping puzzles than spvp nowadays.
The topic is getting too long I can read and reply everything. Anyway I have stated what I think about shatter ele. It is too strong, has way to few counters, and overwall toxic for the game. I would even go further and say zerker specs are the reason spvp is not a popular game mode. Probably there are more people doing living story or even jumping puzzles than spvp nowadays.
dudis Im going to have to take the infraction that I really dont need and tell you that you have no idea what you’re talking about and should probably try playing in NA on mesmer if you think its so viable.
dudis Im going to have to take the infraction that I really dont need and tell you that you have no idea what you’re talking about and should probably try playing in NA on mesmer if you think its so viable.
Just because we dont agree with each other and have different opinions about the state of the game doens’t mean I have no idea what I am talking about.
We can wait and see what the devs think about. Looks like they are going in the right direction of buffing other specs other than the overpowered shatter, but they still need to tone done shatter dmg. Just buff other specs wont make people run other builds if there is still one god mode build around.
The topic is getting too long I ca’tn read and reply everything. Anyway I have stated what I think about shatter mesmer. It is too strong, has way too few counters, and overwall toxic for the game. I would even go further and say zerker specs are the reason spvp is not a popular game mode. Probably there are more people doing living story or even jumping puzzles than spvp nowadays.
Bunker meta has killed pvp. The more harder is spec – the more dangerous it must be.
For exemple:
1) Dota 2: all heroes have ~3 active spells while 1 hero (Invoker) has ~20. So pro Invoker can be the Anigalator9000 when noob Invoker is a ballast for team.
2) CS: pro can win vs 5times more enemies due to skill.
And these games are real eSport games, when GW2 eSport at the larval stage.
gw2 is an MMORPG before anything else. I dont see anywhere stating this game is an esport.
Compare mmorpg class balance with FPS is just dumb. Of course stuff is balanced in the fps and it is all about skill. If someone shot you in the head you will die. Everyone is similar, uses the same game mechanics (guns, grenades,…), they dont have unbalanced classes.
gw2 is an MMORPG before anything else. I dont see anywhere stating this game is an esport.
Compare mmorpg class balance with FPS is just dumb. Of course stuff is balanced in the fps and it is all about skill. If someone shot you in the head you will die. Everyone is similar, uses the same game mechanics (guns, grenades,…), they dont have unbalanced classes.
so if GW2 is MMORPG skillfull and high risk play must not be rewarded? Nice logic
gw2 is an MMORPG before anything else. I dont see anywhere stating this game is an esport.
Compare mmorpg class balance with FPS is just dumb. Of course stuff is balanced in the fps and it is all about skill. If someone shot you in the head you will die. Everyone is similar, uses the same game mechanics (guns, grenades,…), they dont have unbalanced classes.
so if GW2 is MMORPG skillfull and high risk play must not be rewarded? Nice logic
If you want a “high risk” class go play a thief. Compare a ranged infinite kiting with high risk is a joke. Shatter mesmer current state has less risk and more reward than a longbow ranger.
gw2 is an MMORPG before anything else. I dont see anywhere stating this game is an esport.
Compare mmorpg class balance with FPS is just dumb. Of course stuff is balanced in the fps and it is all about skill. If someone shot you in the head you will die. Everyone is similar, uses the same game mechanics (guns, grenades,…), they dont have unbalanced classes.
so if GW2 is MMORPG skillfull and high risk play must not be rewarded? Nice logic
If you want a “high risk” class go play a thief. Compare a ranged infinite kiting with high risk is a joke. Shatter mesmer current state has less risk and more reward than a longbow ranger.
I don’t know who sent you so crazy ideas, because at this topic it was 100 times showed your vision of pvp and especialy mesmer is incompetent. Your gscore tells chars used at PvP: Ed Plaguebringuer, Ed The Mad, Ed The Fire Heart and I am sure noone of them is mesmer. So all your arguments is only your opinion and vision af game. But if we will accept only players IMHO then again >80% of this topic think you are wrong
gw2 is an MMORPG before anything else. I dont see anywhere stating this game is an esport.
Compare mmorpg class balance with FPS is just dumb. Of course stuff is balanced in the fps and it is all about skill. If someone shot you in the head you will die. Everyone is similar, uses the same game mechanics (guns, grenades,…), they dont have unbalanced classes.
so if GW2 is MMORPG skillfull and high risk play must not be rewarded? Nice logic
If you want a “high risk” class go play a thief. Compare a ranged infinite kiting with high risk is a joke. Shatter mesmer current state has less risk and more reward than a longbow ranger.
I don’t know who sent you so crazy ideas, because at this topic it was 100 times showed your vision of pvp and especialy mesmer is incompetent. Your gscore tell your chars used at PvP: Ed Plaguebringuer, Ed The Mad, Ed The Fire Heart and I am sure noone of them is mesmer. So all your arguments is only your opinion and vision af game. But if we will accept only players IMHO then again >80% of this topic think you are wrong
They have shown previously how they dont care about the “majority of the forums” because it is not representative of all the playerbase. Porbably less than 1%. If they like the idea or suggestion they pick if they dont they dont pick it. If they were blindless following what the majority says this game would be 100% different of what it is now.
Tell me how do you use your magic powers to guess what classes do I play just based on the names?
The scores also only count the characters I use in tournaments. You dont need to know how to cook to say if the food tastes good or not. You also dont need to main a mesmer to give suggestions and opinions about the class balance.
A player get’s mad at a particular class and decides to roll one in spvp and they confirm that the class is OP and call for a nerf.
I don’t believe you have an 80 mesmer.
Otherwise I do believe you are being sincere
You need to learn how to fight them or ignore them.
i have a lv 15 mesmer…with 3500+ tournaments on it…you don’t need pve levels, we’re talking about fighting ppl in tpvp not mobs or wvsw zergs full of headless chickens xD
And dunno if you’re talking about PU or some other pve crap like that …but ignoring shatter mesmers is actually the fastest way to get wiped in teamfights…
Reading comprehension is vital if you are going to continue to post on these forums.
But hey, since you like to cherry pick one sentence out of a couple paragraphs, I can do the same.
Since when is PU a pve spec?
pu is a wvsw spec and wvsw is considered pve, so since like…forever?
The topic is getting too long I ca’tn read and reply everything. Anyway I have stated what I think about shatter mesmer. It is too strong, has way too few counters, and overwall toxic for the game. I would even go further and say zerker specs are the reason spvp is not a popular game mode. Probably there are more people doing living story or even jumping puzzles than spvp nowadays.
omg this guy……have you ever considered to ask for a job in pvp dev team?
Dudis, just stop.
Many players on a much higher level than you have already said in this thread that mesmer is fine. Furthermore you keep stating the same false claims that mesmers are good at 1v1 and can 1v1 bunkers. It’s not a matter of opinion anymore when several players that know much more about the game and TPvP than you say you’re wrong.
ANet isn’t going to nerf shatter mesmer. Just leave it.
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You’re not experienced at the game at all. Stop acting like it.
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I’m not coming back, not that you care.
Dudis, just stop.
Many players on a much higher level than you have already said in this thread that mesmer is fine. Furthermore you keep stating the same false claims that mesmers are good at 1v1 and can 1v1 bunkers. It’s not a matter of opinion anymore when several players that know much more about the game and TPvP than you say you’re wrong.
ANet isn’t going to nerf shatter mesmer. Just leave it.
xDudisx.5914 Ed The Fire Heart W: 126 L: 123 50.6%
You’re not experienced at the game at all. Stop acting like it.
No need stats to prove it…reading all the bs he’s writing is way more than enough, i don’t even know why senso even bothered to reply on this.
) and their toolkit block which gives them almost more immune uptime than mesmer WITH tanky amulet stats and more fields/blasts.