Guild Wars 2

Tasslehoff.5738:

Yea I should now start topic about “Left GW becouse of stupid PvP daily and lost top2 on AP leaderboards”. I bet Devs will show up.

They won’t, they’ll instead delete or lock the thread and maybe warn you via pm.

Tryed PM doesn’t work too, no answer

Are the PVP players actually happy about this situation? Cant you see how toxic soloQ has become? How much the overall skill level has fallen?

People dont defend or camp points, they push far at start leaving the first mid battle that decides the tempo of the whole game. Afkers are still there, 4v5 still happen. It has become hotjoin. Not just that, people spend more time accusing and insulting opthers than actually playing to win.

Team Pvp will soon be destroyed as well, once more people get to try it.

How can the PVP players still defend the changes?

For people leveling rank or wanting glory there is no reason to do anything else than TeamQ, even with a low win percentage its more rewarding than hotjoin atm.

DuranArgith.1354:

Are the PVP players actually happy about this situation? Cant you see how toxic soloQ has become? How much the overall skill level has fallen?

People dont defend or camp points, they push far at start leaving the first mid battle that decides the tempo of the whole game. Afkers are still there, 4v5 still happen. It has become hotjoin. Not just that, people spend more time accusing and insulting opthers than actually playing to win.

Team Pvp will soon be destroyed as well, once more people get to try it.

How can the PVP players still defend the changes?

Lol I know, my ignore list has grown so much from just playing since the new change from all the nerd raging immature sPvPers and trolls, such a pathetic community. I get insulted by players all the time, usually for beating them like it’s suppose to be personal… But yeah… it was mostly adding money to sPvP that has caused this but achievement points has too for those that play like 12 hours a day and dont mind doing them.

for 1milion fans on facebook you can respond? really nice Anet…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMrRxlRJAaA

Merry christmas!
Just another day for another 8 wins!

Tasslehoff.5738:

for 1milion fans on facebook you can respond? really nice Anet…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMrRxlRJAaA

Anet responds to all kind of junk and fun threads, but they avoid threads with serious stuff like the plague.

Glad I am not one of the 1million, I would feel terrible if I would refer this game to friends or relatives.

cant we all jsut report this useless thread made from 6-7 spammors cause they dont get their candy and call it archievement heros or whatever? And it has nothing to do with pvp – its jsut some pve junkies farming useless stuff and whining bout cause its hard.

10 sites now and all from same ppl babbling same bull.. over and over again

do it when you wanna do it but dont whine about when its to hard and stop going on my nerves with this bull.. – its no special gamemode or whatever

i collect playtime – can i have some dev post now how cool i am?

pupupuly.8792:

I’m so eager to know these men who make this wonderful game when I pre-order the game.

After these 2 weeks these guy’s faces just make me PUKE

You expect the devs to correspond with you when you act like this?

You’re giving them a reason to lock this thread, not reply to it.

i don’t understand this thread. getting your pvp daily takes exactly the same amount of time as it did before. stop whining. whiners.

Romek.4201:

cant we all jsut report this useless thread made from 6-7 spammors cause they dont get their candy and call it archievement heros or whatever? And it has nothing to do with pvp – its jsut some pve junkies farming useless stuff and whining bout cause its hard.

10 sites now and all from same ppl babbling same bull.. over and over again

do it when you wanna do it but dont whine about when its to hard and stop going on my nerves with this bull.. – its no special gamemode or whatever

i collect playtime – can i have some dev post now how cool i am?

1. Why you are at it, why dont you report every single “useless” thread where someone complains about X profession imbalance, queue problems, AFK-ers in games etc. I mean, its all bunch of useless threads where useless people complain that they dont get their candies. Why should we care? Report them all to hell!

2. This thread was originally made in general section of the forums but it was promptly moved by the moderator to the sPvP subforum. I would prefer if it would stay in General but it seems someone in Arena had a different opinion. Tough luck.

3. People who collect playtime are no more or less “cool” from people who collect gold, PvP wins, pets, glory, rank, MMR or whatever else in this or any other game. Newsflash for you: it is all useless and a waste of time. A playtime collecting nerd is no different from a PvP king nerd or a forum warrior nerd. Common denominator: they/we are all nerds. The general difference is that some have more bile to spare than the others. Make out what you want from it.

4. There are no hard achievements in this game. Lite up the Darkness was the only one “hardish” that I can remember. Either way, pretty much all achievements, PvP or PvE, are time-based and not skill based. If you keep repeating about things being “hard”, you haven’t been paying attention.

5. It is one thread that you dont have to click on. It does not even consider subject that is a concern to you. If you want people to deal with their compulsions to do all achievements, work first on your own compulsion to keep clicking on this thread.

Romek is a known forum troll, dont feed him or thread might get locked for real.

I think this thread will always be here on first page until DEV have resond

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Exploited-Bug-Daily-achievement-bonus-point/
more trouble for us achievement hunters

Arenanet says : "WE THINK THIS IS COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!! "

Actually, it’s a perfectly fine addition to the game for everyone but those so obsessed with AP accumulation that they can’t have fun because of it.

Some ppl like new daily, some not, who cares we want to know what Anet say about it. Stay or change or somethink we want to communicate with devs..

thought you left?

welcome back tasslehoff^^

Romek.4201:

thought you left?

welcome back tasslehoff^^

He is an addict. Called his bluff a while ago. He just makes empty threats like a child to get Devs attention

RoRo.8270:

Romek.4201:

thought you left?

welcome back tasslehoff^^

He is an addict. Called his bluff a while ago. He just makes empty threats like a child to get Devs attention

How do you know he will not leave? People are different. Not everyone who disagree with you is a “child”. Perhaps he thinks about stopping but it is hard for him to let go and he still hopes for a resolution? Maybe his threats are empty, maybe not. But how do you know?

I stopped playing GW2 two days after new dailies were added. Didnt logged since two weeks and I am not going to play it hardcore anymore if they dont do some radical changes to how dailies work in this game. Will play other games instead. GW2 was great but for me completionism is the only thing that could keep me playing it for longer than ~1000h. And since now completionism would require me to forfeit my life in order to keep up, I simply say pass. No hard feelings, if that is what they want to do with their game, its up to them, not to me. I would just really love to hear some word about it to be sure that things are clear and this whole thing is not just some giant flop/misunderstanding.

And to people who still struggle to do all dailies atm but are feeling bad with it. My advice. Just quit. You will get over it with time and you will find other goals. If doing all dailies right now feels like a giant chore, it is not worth it. Just cut the cord and leave. There are many great games to try out which does not require you to play each day for 8h to not loose “stuff”.

Awe.1096:

And to people who still struggle to do all dailies atm but are feeling bad with it. My advice. Just quit. You will get over it with time and you will find other goals. If doing all dailies right now feels like a giant chore, it is not worth it. Just cut the cord and leave. There are many great games to try out which does not require you to play each day for 8h to not loose “stuff”.

+1, in 8 minutes the first day I didn’t get a daily will have passed and at this point it doesn’t even feel like a shame. If we were to get a response we would’ve had one by now, so I don’t see it happening. Not worth it anymore imo. It’s a shame cause I don’t think alot of people realise what a good achievement system can bring to a game and how many completionists there are in gaming today. We may be a minority in GW2 now, but frankly that’s because of all the bumps in the road we’ve seen before this one. This was the final bump in the road for me. And unless something drastically changes with the direction of the game, I don’t see myself coming back.

I wish all of you that still want to fight this battle good luck.

Rigel.5789:

Awe.1096:

And to people who still struggle to do all dailies atm but are feeling bad with it. My advice. Just quit. You will get over it with time and you will find other goals. If doing all dailies right now feels like a giant chore, it is not worth it. Just cut the cord and leave. There are many great games to try out which does not require you to play each day for 8h to not loose “stuff”.

+1, in 8 minutes the first day I didn’t get a daily will have passed and at this point it doesn’t even feel like a shame. If we were to get a response we would’ve had one by now, so I don’t see it happening. Not worth it anymore imo. It’s a shame cause I don’t think alot of people realise what a good achievement system can bring to a game and how many completionists there are in gaming today. We may be a minority in GW2 now, but frankly that’s because of all the bumps in the road we’ve seen before this one. This was the final bump in the road for me. And unless something drastically changes with the direction of the game, I don’t see myself coming back.

I wish all of you that still want to fight this battle good luck.

There were a lot more of us than a lot of people realize. Case in point anyone anywhere near the top of the the “leader boards” were only there because they did ap’s because they enjoyed it not because of some stupid board. We did all the dailies long before laurels, we did the monthlies when they only rewarded 10 coins and 50 copper and we played all aspects of the game. Those that cared about ap only used salvage to achieve high numbers and left the rest mostly alone since it was easier. I know one person who went from 13kap to 3k ap when they capped that.

Myself I was in and out of the top 10 when they added the boards depending on the time I had available to do what ever living story stuff compared to the others, or atleast so I was told. I hardly noticed at first when dailies/living story achievements became all I was ever doing as it was a gradual change. That started to reduce my enjoyment of the game and made the feather that would break the camels back that much lighter. I left a number of weeks ago now for various reasons and to be honest I’m not sure how I would of reacted to this change. I think likely I would of quit over it, as leaving those boxes unchecked which I would of had to do, would of made this game something that frustrated me instead of providing relaxing fun.

To my fellow ap hunters ignore the trolls and those that claim to not care about ap while posting several times in a ap thread.(We all know the real reasons that they continue to do so even if they dont understand why we play games how we do)

The only way to keep the majority of parties happy which has been suggested multiple times is just cap how much can be gained from dailies. I would personally add more pvp and wvw ones to give more choices to better cater to those types of players and then just cap how much total ap they give. I dont personally ever see this happening myself but then GW2 turned into something other than the game I thought I bought a long time ago, it just took me awhile to realize it.

All is Vain.

I am looking out for a new MMO I could like already, so far no luck. Maybe TESO or WS will be for me, who knows.

Tasslehoff.5738:

Some ppl like new daily, some not, who cares we want to know what Anet say about it. Stay or change or somethink we want to communicate with devs..

What they say about it…well they implemented it, probably means they’re for it unless the new dailies randomly came up and no one on their end knows how, but if that were the case there’s bigger issues.

I’ve given up. I can’t really be competitive on the pvp leaderboard. Consistently hover around 300-500. The achievement one though I climbed up ever since it was announced. Went from not even on it to 230. I got a lot of enjoyment out of doing my dailies and farming activities and other achievements. Was a nice relaxing thing I could do for a couple of hours. With the new dailies they’ve made it impossible for me to keep up with the 10+ hours/day players.

I thought I was the only one that felt this way but this thread having more replies than any other pvp thread since launch says otherwise. I feel pretty disheartened logging in the last couple of days and I’m surprised that this change has had such an effect on me. At first I thought I could just spend another few hours a day doing them… boy was I wrong on that one. Then I thought I could just do all my dailies but the arena wins and be ok with it. However it really feels weird leaving undone dailies, and sad when I realize I did literally every other daily in less time than it would have taken to finish a single arena win daily.

I know that other players don’t care, and maybe the devs don’t either, but adding in daily time sinks that consume 25% of my waking hours is so extreme it’s made me disinterested in the game completely.

Andrew.4506:

I’ve given up. I can’t really be competitive on the pvp leaderboard. Consistently hover around 300-500. The achievement one though I climbed up ever since it was announced. Went from not even on it to 230. I got a lot of enjoyment out of doing my dailies and farming activities and other achievements. Was a nice relaxing thing I could do for a couple of hours. With the new dailies they’ve made it impossible for me to keep up with the 10+ hours/day players.

I thought I was the only one that felt this way but this thread having more replies than any other pvp thread since launch says otherwise. I feel pretty disheartened logging in the last couple of days and I’m surprised that this change has had such an effect on me. At first I thought I could just spend another few hours a day doing them… boy was I wrong on that one. Then I thought I could just do all my dailies but the arena wins and be ok with it. However it really feels weird leaving undone dailies, and sad when I realize I did literally every other daily in less time than it would have taken to finish a single arena win daily.

I know that other players don’t care, and maybe the devs don’t either, but adding in daily time sinks that consume 25% of my waking hours is so extreme it’s made me disinterested in the game completely.

This 3 weeks were nightmare to me too. 1h for all other dailies and atleast 2,5h for ranked games(my record with 8 wins in a row) but normally its 50% win ratio in solo q so its at least 4-5h. Waiting on monthly spvp to check how fast will I do it but I can bet its faster then 4-5h. For sure they made a lot of ppl play spvp again but with what a cost? They made solo q – hot join. team arena – solo q and hot join in skyhammer glory farm. With the last balance changes they destroyed the balance again and now they are celebrating. I stopped buying gems until they fix their mistakes.

This thread still going..?
kitten .

DuranArgith.1354:

Are the PVP players actually happy about this situation? Cant you see how toxic soloQ has become? How much the overall skill level has fallen?

People dont defend or camp points, they push far at start leaving the first mid battle that decides the tempo of the whole game. Afkers are still there, 4v5 still happen. It has become hotjoin. Not just that, people spend more time accusing and insulting opthers than actually playing to win.

Team Pvp will soon be destroyed as well, once more people get to try it.

How can the PVP players still defend the changes?

In elo hell (sub top 500) it is a pain in the kitten . But when you get to top 500 AP farmers and newbies seem to not interfere, also the amount of dc/leaver/afks decreses. So its really no problem, for me at least.

KarlaGrey.5903:

This thread still going..?
kitten .

The same 2-3 people are so entitled they feel they should bump it over and over until they get what they want. Dailies for logging in.

Writetyper.1985:

KarlaGrey.5903:

This thread still going..?
kitten .

The same 2-3 people are so entitled they feel they should bump it over and over until they get what they want. Dailies for logging in.

No, the only way to make sense to all of this, is placing a “weekly cap for AP on dailys”, something like: 50 weekly AP on dailys.

Everyone would happy to play without constrictions, achievement hunters too.
Right now, the leaderboards is just based on dailys on monthlys, so it’s more than useless, but obviously most of AP hunters aren’t on top beacuse of that, beacuse of dailys and so on, but for being a completionist (talking for me, but i guess i’m talking for every achievement hunter with more than 16-17k AP) and doing everything since dayone.

I guess i’ll do a suggestion soon, maybe will make everyone happier.

Andrew.4506:

With the new dailies they’ve made it impossible for me to keep up with the 10+ hours/day players.

But that’s the thing – a meaningless leaderboard like the AP one will always be dominated by people who just put in a ton of hours. This change simply separates the ones who really like to waste time on pointless grinding from those who only liked to do it somewhat.

The problem is the leaderboard itself. Achievements should be something people do as a personal accomplishment, this competitiveness is what encourages all of this obsessive behavior.

Arenanet is not responsible for the inability of some people to make wise decisions about what is and is not important in life – or even in “gaming life”. But they should recognize that some gamers cannot manage their time and not encourage excessive gameplay with a leaderboard that only measures grinding.

Qaelyn.7612:

But that’s the thing – a meaningless leaderboard like the AP one will always be dominated by people who just put in a ton of hours. This change simply separates the ones who really like to waste time on pointless grinding from those who only liked to do it somewhat.

The problem is the leaderboard itself. Achievements should be something people do as a personal accomplishment, this competitiveness is what encourages all of this obsessive behavior.

Arenanet is not responsible for the inability of some people to make wise decisions about what is and is not important in life – or even in “gaming life”. But they should recognize that some gamers cannot manage their time and not encourage excessive gameplay with a leaderboard that only measures grinding.

Anyone with a high amount of ap did it for personal accomplishment and because of how they play games, not for any leader board. The ones that did it just for the sake of having higher ap than others did the salvage method instead as it was easier and lost out when they capped it. The ap hunters instead did monthlies when they only rewarded 50 Copper and 10 coins and long before laurels existed. Mostly it was done because they enjoy checking boxes, it brings them pleasure. They dont judge people who dont play like this but you sure seem to enjoy judging them for something you dont understand.

They have posted several suggestions that would cater to all but the minority who do care about leader boards and have stayed for the most part respectful. All they have been asking is if Anet considers a day to be 10 hours of gaming or 2 hours of gaming, a very fair question imo as it helps define their agenda.

You on the other hand are ignorant beyond belief or a very active troll, not sure which. All I know is your comments are not constructive and are thinly veiled insults in a thread that you supposedly care nothing about.

All is Vain

Nobody is judging how anyone plays.

What’s being judged is people deciding they want to pursue a “leaderboard” that only measures grinding and then complaining that it involves a lot of grinding.

There is no area of this game where you can’t get more or accomplish more or achieve more by spending more time. How much time you spend is your decision, and yours alone.

Qaelyn.7612:

Nobody is judging how anyone plays.

What’s being judged is people deciding they want to pursue a “leaderboard” that only measures grinding and then complaining that it involves a lot of grinding.

There is no area of this game where you can’t get more or accomplish more or achieve more by spending more time. How much time you spend is your decision, and yours alone.

Except dailies are gated by 24h checkpoints. I see no problem in humongous grind achievements like kill 1,000,000 dolyaks or play sPvP for 10 years until you get enough glory. I really dont. Its a matter of psychology. I would probably never kill 1,000,000 dolyaks but I can always keep telling myself that I am not loosing anything if I dont kill dolyaks for a week. You can make up for it by making a dolyak killing session on the weekend or it will simply mean that you will hit the finish line one week later. In case of dailies, you miss one day and it will leave a scar on the completion list forever. This comes from combination of two facts: 24h gating and lack of the finish line. Its a vile system but I was telling myself for one year that Arena will improve it (as they improved many other things in game) over time. Instead, it kept getting worse and worse and it finally broke my back. Tough luck. Was a fun ride until it lasted.

The newly daily AP exploit is terrible and makes the situation even worse.

Awe.1096:

In case of dailies, you miss one day and it will leave a scar on the completion list forever.

My entire point is that this is the problem: the idea that there’s some “completion list” that gets “scarred” because you miss a daily.

That’s not what daily activities are for. They are meant to be simple rewards for people who log in regularly. A few people have warped them into something they feel they “have” to do and now they are complaining that they can’t do them. They shouldn’t change or remove game features because of a small handful of people who use them in a strange manner and refuse to examine and change their self-destructive behavior.

I only suggest the leaderboard be removed because I think it contributes to the obsessive behavior and really serves no important functional purpose.

Qaelyn.7612:

Awe.1096:

In case of dailies, you miss one day and it will leave a scar on the completion list forever.

My entire point is that this is the problem: the idea that there’s some “completion list” that gets “scarred” because you miss a daily.

That’s not what daily activities are for. They are meant to be simple rewards for people who log in regularly. A few people have warped them into something they feel they “have” to do and now they are complaining that they can’t do them. They shouldn’t change or remove game features because of a small handful of people who use them in a strange manner and refuse to examine and change their self-destructive behavior.

I only suggest the leaderboard be removed because I think it contributes to the obsessive behavior and really serves no important functional purpose.

“They are meant to be simple rewards for people who log in regularly.” You sure about that? When GW2 launched, there were no laurels or AP chests. There were a bunch of simple daily achievements which did nothing aside from boosting your total AP score. So what was the original purpose of this design? Was this design changed? When? We are asking for some word from the source, which is Arena. You may have your idea for what was the purpose of this or that system. I would like to hear that from someone who actually is responsible for designing/implementing it.

I wonder if Qaelyn is an anet dev in disguise. Otherwise I must declare him a troll. Why else would he keep posting here if not interested/affected by it.

Who says I’m not affected by it?

Someone doesn’t become a ‘troll’ just because they disagree with you.

for me (and this is just my opinion) there are some who tire of seeing, its only about completing objectives, when imo many feel this is a blatant lie. Yes there may be a few that do it for completion, but it seems the majority do it to compete, then come on here saying they don’t. when their own post indicate how many times they are reviewing the boards to see who is at what rank, where they are on the board, who is near their score.
When you log in, it shows how many points you have, if you checked the boards more than once to see where others are compared to yours, its not about completion, but about competition. Which is repeatedly said doesn’t exist for the majority posting here. If people would be truthful about their intentions, maybe there wouldn’t be so much strife from the opposition.

william dj.6953:

for me (and this is just my opinion) there are some who tire of seeing, its only about completing objectives, when imo many feel this is a blatant lie. Yes there may be a few that do it for completion, but it seems the majority do it to compete, then come on here saying they don’t. when their own post indicate how many times they are reviewing the boards to see who is at what rank, where they are on the board, who is near their score.
When you log in, it shows how many points you have, if you checked the boards more than once to see where others are compared to yours, its not about completion, but about competition. Which is repeatedly said doesn’t exist for the majority posting here. If people would be truthful about their intentions, maybe there wouldn’t be so much strife from the opposition.

And then how would you explain us doing it for months when there was’nt even laurels for “reward”? When no one but us knew what we were doing? When monthlies gave 50 copper and 10 coins for “reward”? I dont know a single person who has/had their name on this board(I’m sure there are some but not many) that cares if it’s there or not. In fact if it ment having the old daily system back I bet the majority of them would beg for the board to be gone. It would’nt change how any one of us would play the game. The only thing changing how we would like to play the game is Anet.

You know why most of the people on the board dont care about it? It’s because the type of people who would do them because they cared about it for different reasons pursued ap in a different manner and then lost it when these were changed. Ie the HOM exploit or when salvaging did’nt have a cap.

The only three reasons you see posts like this grow so long are:

1- Trolls forcing them to defend something they should’nt have to defend.(How they enjoy gaming)
2- The ignorant(some of which are too dumb to acknowledge the fact that other people are capable of enjoying things in a different way than them and for different reasons than they accuse them of)
3-Because Anet has’nt answered the very simple question of how much time do they consider a fair number for someone to play in a day, 2 hours or 10 hours.

All is Vain

Qaelyn.7612:

Who says I’m not affected by it?

Someone doesn’t become a ‘troll’ just because they disagree with you.

No they become a troll by ignoring 95% of what is in a post, quoting something out of context and then repeating the same response back to get a rise out of someone even after the response has been answered countless times. I’ve made up my mind you’re not ignorant you sir are just a troll. I suggest the rest of us ignores it until it goes away from this point forward.

All is Vain

1 totally agree, see lots of people complaining they can no longer enjoy the game, defending their playstyle.
2 totally agree again, only the ignorant would think changes made to a game would only affect a very small group of people, considering everyone who updates the game would be downloading the same files.
3. Anet has already answered, they did so on the update that gave the points. guess some people missed reading that. or couldn’t understand..

so go ahead, throw more insults at people who have a different opinion, says much about those who do.
only reason this thread is so long because it has already been said, around 10 people keep bumping it everyday.

you can call me whatever you wish, im sure I will lose sleep over it, being called names by someone I didn’t know existed until today.

Gordok.2146:

You know why most of the people on the board dont care about it?

Yes, I do: because they understand that they are responsible for their own decisions about what and how often to play, and that if new entirely optional daily achievements are added and they don’t want to pursue them, then by golly they can not pursue them!

I care about this because I sometimes get free APs from these new dailies, incidentally, while I PvP. I also care about them because I think that in general principle the company should not remove new, optional, additional rewards because of a small handful of people who can’t achieve any perspective on how to play.

The “achievements leaderboard” is for people who like to waste countless hours grinding. If you want to do that, great. If you don’t, great. But it is unfair for others to have new rewards removed simply because you don’t like them.

william dj.6953:

1 totally agree, see lots of people complaining they can no longer enjoy the game, defending their playstyle.
2 totally agree again, only the ignorant would think changes made to a game would only affect a very small group of people, considering everyone who updates the game would be downloading the same files.
3. Anet has already answered, they did so on the update that gave the points. guess some people missed reading that. or couldn’t understand..

so go ahead, throw more insults at people who have a different opinion, says much about those who do.
only reason this thread is so long because it has already been said, around 10 people keep bumping it everyday.

you can call me whatever you wish, im sure I will lose sleep over it, being called names by someone I didn’t know existed until today.

The remark regarding the ignorant did include you but not the second part of that line with the assumption you are replying to a thread you have not read through. My apologies for that as I can see why that would be assumed.

Also you may be incorrect about Anet answering this through action as in case you did not know they made a change similar all though not as impact full as this to dailies once before and retracted it saying that they agreed at that time that it did not fit with their vision of dailies. So perhaps their vision has changed and they will lose a lot more players than they realize or it has’nt. If it has then you would of course be correct in your assumption. I tell you this even though I imagine it is in this thread somewhere all ready so that you will not be ignorant in the future.

The rest was all ready explained in my previous answer, again even though it is in this thread numerous times all ready, so you wont have to be ignorant as to why these people care about dailies in the way that they do. I see you dodged my questions nicely though as I think once you were educated as to not only the reasons all ready stated but how simple the proof of these reasons is answering them other than to apologize would be too difficult.

All is Vain

Qaelyn.7612:

I care about this because I sometimes get free APs from these new dailies, incidentally, while I PvP. I also care about them because I think that in general principle the company should not remove new, optional, additional rewards.

I removed the rest of your answer to make your reply one worth answering instead of just another troll. Since you dont like to read entire posts I’ll answer just this part. The people asking for change agree that people who only pvp should have more ways to gain ap. That is why most of them are asking for a cap on ap rewarded per day instead of changing what the choices are. This change would not effect you if you are a pvp only player who does’nt care about ap boards. In fact it would open the door for more rewards to be available to those that only pvp.

I wish you good day Mr. Troll as I give you enough credit to assume you understand the answers that have been given and any future posts by you will be the same as the ones in your post history.

All is Vain

You can be verbally abusive all you like but I have as much right to my opinion as you do yours, and the fact that in every post you call names doesn’t exactly bolster your position.

I don’t think Arenanet should impose limits on the number of AP per day for the same reason I don’t think they should remove these new dailies. More options are better than fewer. Extra ways to play and options for gaining AP should not be removed to placate a small number of people who want to have their cake and eat it too.

Being a “completionist” means completing everything. If you don’t want to complete everything, don’t be a completionist – I assure you that nobody really cares one way or the other. Arenanet shouldn’t restrict gameplay options for the sake of obsessive players who want to consider themselves “completionists” but don’t actually want to complete everything. I don’t want them reining in new activities and options when people like you start whining again every time something new is added that’s “too much work”.

anet forces me to the forums 8 to 10 hours a day, doesn’t that sound ridicules? Well maybe not to some people.