Guild Wars 2

Booms.2594:

Burtnik.5218:

BeepBoopBop.5403:

I think it needs a shave. But don’t completely revert the changes. This skill was useless before other than using in a combo field for burning or something.

Maybe for you.. it was great at slowing down people that tried to kite you.
Thing is they nerfed UA and autoattack and moved damage from these abilities to #2 which created this issue. Op skill 1v1 but trash 1vX. I hope they change sword this patch bc its pathetic in current state.

Oh btw, lets also not forget that damage on sword skills is bugged and deals less than intended

yeah 10k damage on a skill that causes people to double dodge and is an evade itself needs a buff.
as does the highest dps auto attacks in the game when used with quickness.
definitely need to buff harder

It is not even close to the highest damage auto attack in the game. It is hardly decent. rev sword auto < Thief sword auto < warrior axe auto < thief dagger……. maybe if they fix it it will be good again.

vaxjani.9073:

What are you guys talking about, its a balanced skill. Reasonable damage, easy to interrupt…oh wait… /s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0QlyUfItUU

LOL THISSSSSSSS SO MUCH THISSSSS… happend SO MANY TIMES

Sadrien.3470:

Booms.2594:

Burtnik.5218:

BeepBoopBop.5403:

I think it needs a shave. But don’t completely revert the changes. This skill was useless before other than using in a combo field for burning or something.

Maybe for you.. it was great at slowing down people that tried to kite you.
Thing is they nerfed UA and autoattack and moved damage from these abilities to #2 which created this issue. Op skill 1v1 but trash 1vX. I hope they change sword this patch bc its pathetic in current state.

Oh btw, lets also not forget that damage on sword skills is bugged and deals less than intended

yeah 10k damage on a skill that causes people to double dodge and is an evade itself needs a buff.
as does the highest dps auto attacks in the game when used with quickness.
definitely need to buff harder

It is not even close to the highest damage auto attack in the game. It is hardly decent. rev sword auto < Thief sword auto < warrior axe auto < thief dagger……. maybe if they fix it it will be good again.

SSSUUUREEE but only when revs have survivability of the thief aka get instagibbed by any sneeze that is not even meant for them

I think Cynz has said everything that needs to be said tbh. Thieves/Wars/Guardians aren’t needed anywhere anymore because Revenant says Kitten You. It simply outclasses them in every aspect and fills all of their roles simultaneously. The argument that “Rev was designed to beat other power specs and to be weak to condi” is rubbish. Yes, Rev is weaker to condi, but that’s because Anet hasn’t given them enough options to deal with it and has overtuned their defense against power damage. It’s kitten poor balancing. Revenant gives a huge middle finger to all 3 of these professions because it simply has more tools to do everything better than they do. It’s like Anet took a page out of the wishlist of all 3 and slapped it all onto one class. That’s why we get so irritated when we’re forced to take a back seat and get called trash tier because “may as well take a rev”. It’s BS.
What I find absolutely hilarious is that there is currently a whole bunch of threads on the Rev forums complaining about possible nerfs and discussing “fixes” to sword, as if sword isn’t already good (cough broken cough) enough.
At the end of the day, the same approach with balancing Rev has to be taken as every other profession. You can not have superior damage, sustain, mobility and group support all at the same time because thats where you get a situation like you have right now where you kitten off players of other professions that get wiped off the face of the earth by it.

I would like to mention that before prec strike change i was one of the people that supported UA/AA nerfs and improvement to sword 2 HOWEVER i didn’t expect devs to make it so brokenly idiot proof and overtuned. Common sense, what’s that?

And here we go. The rage is real again. So let us try to be fair here.
Yes it is poor design. Revenant has poor design. Not only broken things. Also alot of garbage traits, Legends and other Stuff. But hell yeah, who cares right.
Not everyone of the Revs say that Sword needs buffs. But to have bugs on a Weapon is annoying like hell. To ask for fixes is absolutely ok. A Bug is a Bug. If its on a OP Weapon or not makes no difference.
We are running into the same mistakes we did in the past with Thief and Warrior. All i see is Nerf Threads.
Nerf Shiro
Nerf Sword
Nerf Retribution
Nerf Herald
Nerd Staff 5
And all are asking for hard Nerfs. But if someone says, “What will the Revenant get for the Nerf?” Everyone is raging on him.
Thiefs and Warriors complain about not being Meta all day long. I feel with you guys, because i feel the same. Played most Time Thief and Warrior before HoT. I would love to see these classes back in a viable spot. But to say that Revenant is the Problem for these classes is just not true. If Revenant would get deleted from the game, Warrior would not take his place, Thief would not be better in Teamfight and DH would still be what it is. To say that Rev and Thief have the same mobility is not true. A thief is still better in decapping and rotating. The job he had before the HoT desaster.
Im not even sure if Thief would get the fifth spot in ESL Teams if Revenant would get deleted.
If you want to have some fair discussions about your class, do the same for other classes.
I play Revenant at the Moment, because it is the closest profession to Thief and Warrior Gameplay. I truly hate Condi Mesmer. But do i move now to the Mesmer Forum and just Rage everyday on it because i cant beat it. NO. It is the last viable Build and Mesmer is a nice and tactical awesome class.
Sure, in my opinion Moa needs a rework in combination with Continuum Split. But on the other Side, i think about the impact of this Nerf. Would it balance the class. Would it still be viable. IF they do it, what could the Mesmer get insted.
All what some of you guys and ladys want to do is to delete Rev from PvP. But if you want to be part of the PvP, why Rev shouldn’t be able to stay there too.
Its not one skill that brings Rev out of Line compared to Thief and Warrior.
Its not on skill that brings Necro over the Top compared to other Condi Professions.
Its just not that easy. Many many things that came with HoT turned out to be horrible for PvP Health and Balance.
And here my opinion on hat post. The last one.

PS needs to be reworked. How it is at the moment is to strong. But dont make it garbage again. It still should be a damage dealing skill. But chill on top of it and also that high damage outpot is to much.
The Revenant should keep the survival abilitys against power Specs. That is what the class is. If we remove them without serious Buffs in Condicleanse. This class will move to trash in an instant.

Themistokles.1238:

And all are asking for hard Nerfs. But if someone says, “What will the Revenant get for the Nerf?” Everyone is raging on him.
(…)
All what some of you guys and ladys want to do is to delete Rev from PvP. But if you want to be part of the PvP, why Rev shouldn’t be able to stay there too.

I can agree.

You have to understand that (more reasonable) Revenant players are not trying to deny strength of Power Revenant or speak against nerfing it – in fact, quite the opposite, we want the changes probably more than Thief or Warrior players. But we also want something in exchange, some alternative, healthier playstyle.

Looking back to the last “balance patch” for Revenant which consisted of absolutely no updates that could incentivize other playstyles, builds or traits but focused almost entirely on tweaking one build, you can understand people are afraid of that single build becoming unviable. Revenant doesn’t have unique utilities that would justify bringing him despite underperforming like Portal+Moa on Mesmer and decapping of Thief.

Ok yes, I agree that there are many areas of Revenant that are currently crappy (specifically Ventari/Jallis legends and a couple of traitlines) but you act as if Revenant is the only profession suffering from this. Revenant is NOT the only proffession in the game that has only 1 viable build, Thief only has DA/Dare/Trick D/P, Warrior only has the core Strength/Defense/Disc because taking Zerker gives up either too much damage or too much defense. Thief and Wars have it ALOT worse than you guys. Not only do we only have one build that we can use but even THAT build is considered garbage when you compare it to Revenant and it’s overall utility.
By all means, give Revenant more options. But just because you have some crappy traits and skills like ALL other professions do, does not mean that it’s ok that you completely dominate most other power specs right now. Nowhere has it been stated that you were intended to hard-counter everything except Mesmer and Reaper. It doesn’t matter if you’re weak to condi or not, you’re still in a much better place than us.
I doubt very much you’ll go to the Thief forum and see someone say “Oh yeah we’re weak to condi so whytf can’t we hard-counter everything else?”

I’d say the build diversity is even pretty good in comparison to other classes.Considering you can play power revenant with invocation, power revenant with retribution or even condition revenant with mallyx, you have 3 viable options which is more than most other classes have.

dominik.9721:

I’d say the build diversity is even pretty good in comparison to other classes.Considering you can play power revenant with invocation, power revenant with retribution or even condition revenant with mallyx, you have 3 viable options which is more than most other classes have.

Eh…what joke is this? The other trait lines are far from viable … The revs that go down that route are fodder unless they are spectacular players …. and this probably goes for every class. Yeah I can make S/D thief, does that make it viable or worth mentioning? And if it does, does that mean that thief is fine … i mean … it has 2 builds amirite? Are we going to count the D/D condi spammer too ? It’s totally an espurts build!! 3 builds omg thief is so much esport i don’t know what those losers in the pro league are doing not picking up thief <o> /sarcasm…

If you would read properly before you start typing full of anger you would have seen that I listed 3 different viable builds. I have to admit retribution power revenant isn’t much different from invocation power revenant but it’s still more diversity than for some other classes.

Read before you type.

@Themistokles.1238: i think you don’t understand something. Wars and thieves are relatively fine actually. The reason why they are not doing so well is because everything else is overtuned to unenjoyable faceroll level AND because of revs. You may deny it all you want but revs got all the tools to take wars/thieves jobs, do it better than them and also counter them pretty hard. Try to play thief vs half decent rev right now – you will uninstall game and never touch it again. Rev is literary walking middle finger to thief/war/guardian players. Thank you, dev team!

Elites and revs need massive nerfing to bring everything to core spec level. Revs do NOT “deserve” any kind of compensation because they were designed to be broken from begin with for the sake of sales and i do not believe that revs would do bad if they would get nerfed along with all elites (yes, thieves and wars including).

Cynz.9437:

they were designed to be broken

True that, nobody suffers from so many bugs like rev does – terrain is biggest rev enemy. Beta class, nothing else.

Being serious if it was true as you say then whole rev would be op. Now go ahead, play without herald and you find out that core rev is below trash level and even a warrior shouldnt have issues roflstomping it 1v1

Burtnik.5218:

Cynz.9437:

they were designed to be broken

True that, nobody suffers from so many bugs like rev does – terrain is biggest rev enemy. Beta class, nothing else.

Being serious if it was true as you say then whole rev would be op. Now go ahead, play without herald and you find out that core rev is below trash level and even a warrior shouldnt have issues roflstomping it 1v1

LOL you want to tell thief player about terrain bugs!??? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, oh my sides, ohhhh dear, omg. You think revs!!! have it bad? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA x__D

You think revs have most bugs lol? How convenient that some of them actually help revs. Try to actually play other classes for change lol.

The core rev is “trash” level (frankly all core specs are “trash” so i see nothing special about revs here) because elites are overtuned hence why i said all elites need nerfs. If you are incapable of reading, it is not my issue.

Cynz.9437:

Burtnik.5218:

Cynz.9437:

they were designed to be broken

True that, nobody suffers from so many bugs like rev does – terrain is biggest rev enemy. Beta class, nothing else.

Being serious if it was true as you say then whole rev would be op. Now go ahead, play without herald and you find out that core rev is below trash level and even a warrior shouldnt have issues roflstomping it 1v1

LOL you want to tell thief player about terrain bugs!??? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, oh my sides, ohhhh dear, omg. You think revs!!! have it bad? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA x__D

You think revs have most bugs lol? How convenient that some of them actually help revs. Try to actually play other classes for change lol.

The core rev is “trash” level (frankly all core specs are “trash” so i see nothing special about revs here) because elites are overtuned hence why i said all elites need nerfs. If you are incapable of reading, it is not my issue.

Oh.. what issues does thief experience except “no valid path” hm? Do you miss your hard hitting skills on a flat terrain? Does your skills deactivate just bc you stood next to wall/slope? Maybe your skills goes on cd without actually doing anything at all or when they were interrupted?

Or maybe thief ends up stuck inside a wall or being unable to move till he wont use another mobility skill? But its okay, kid, i will leave it at this point, no reason to argue with someone who thinks reveal is op. If anything it shows your “skill” and how much your opinions “matter” on this subject.

Also you missed what i said about core rev being beyond trash level that even warrior shouldnt have issues beating it, l2r.

Salty thiefs… everywhere. Even warriors who have it worse are not as salty.

Raek.8504:

Salty thiefs… everywhere. Even warriors who have it worse are not as salty.

because nobody plays warriors anymore (besides very few hipsters lol)

dominik.9721:

I’d say the build diversity is even pretty good in comparison to other classes.Considering you can play power revenant with invocation, power revenant with retribution or even condition revenant with mallyx, you have 3 viable options which is more than most other classes have.

Most stuff that I would consider broken is shared among Condition Revenant and Power Revenant. Be it Riposting Shadows, Precision Strike, Versed in Stone proc, mobility.

Nerfing one affects the other – the difference between Condition Rev and Power Rev is, more or less, one traitline, one legend and a Mace/Axe instead of Staff. It would be very easy to make both unviable or broken in one change.

I’m requesting nerfs and I’ve been requesting them for a long time. All I’m asking for is something more than “X has 2s more cooldown and does less damage” from entire balance update.

Burtnik.5218:

Oh.. what issues does thief experience except “no valid path” hm? Do you miss your hard hitting skills on a flat terrain? Does your skills deactivate just bc you stood next to wall/slope? Maybe your skills goes on cd without actually doing anything at all or when they were interrupted?

Or maybe thief ends up stuck inside a wall or being unable to move till he wont use another mobility skill? But its okay, kid, i will leave it at this point, no reason to argue with someone who thinks reveal is op. If anything it shows your “skill” and how much your opinions “matter” on this subject.

Also you missed what i said about core rev being beyond trash level that even warrior shouldnt have issues beating it, l2r.

Try to use shadowstep to break stun from beloved engi slick shoes. Nope.
Every single port thieves have suffers from same terrain issue and they are usually on way longer CD and are way more important for thief than for rev.
Try to use scrop wire. Nope.
Healing seed is on CD for no reason.
Ini is wasted on sb5 without teleporting you.
Headshot, basi venom, any stuns actually don’t stop rev from executing prec strike.
Backstab actually does less dmg than AA.
Shadowshot actually doesn’t land if target turns around.
Heartseeker tends to move you in completely opposite direction as intended.
Sb5 + dodge makes you being stuck in 1 place.
SB3 bugs you into backpedaling animation that you can’t cancel and you take all the dmg during it.
That is just standard dp/sb, i am not even going from issues sd and co. suffer.

Everything you listed happens to every class out there. Idk why you think revs are anything special in that department.

I got stuck in the walls plenty of times and couldn’t use port skills either. I had to relog actually.

“Kid”. Who calls other posters/players a “kid” lol? What are you, 14? Let’s jump on assume train!

Reveal by itself is not op, 6 sec reveal on 20 sec CD on the class that is already overloaded with tools to deal with thief is.

Shows my skill and how much opinion matters on this subject? And who are YOU to decide it lol?

I do not agree. I think core rev could have good chance vs core warrior.

Bottom line, no matter how many bugs revs or any other class has, it is not excuse for them to be overtuned.

Cynz.9437:

Raek.8504:

Salty thiefs… everywhere. Even warriors who have it worse are not as salty.

because nobody plays warriors anymore (besides very few hipsters lol)

I do, it’s my main lel.

Raek.8504:

Cynz.9437:

Raek.8504:

Salty thiefs… everywhere. Even warriors who have it worse are not as salty.

because nobody plays warriors anymore (besides very few hipsters lol)

I do, it’s my main lel.

hello hipster

I tryed hard to stay fair. But this is so useless.

“Please mommy, delete jimmy, he has two nerf Guns and they are better then mine. But thats not fair. I was supposed to be the decapper. Now everyone wants a mobile class that can fight in Teamfights if needed. I dont want to be that. But I dont want that jimmy can Do it.”

Themistokles.1238:

And here we go. The rage is real again. So let us try to be fair here.
Yes it is poor design. Revenant has poor design. Not only broken things. Also alot of garbage traits, Legends and other Stuff. But hell yeah, who cares right.
Not everyone of the Revs say that Sword needs buffs. But to have bugs on a Weapon is annoying like hell. To ask for fixes is absolutely ok. A Bug is a Bug. If its on a OP Weapon or not makes no difference.
We are running into the same mistakes we did in the past with Thief and Warrior. All i see is Nerf Threads.
Nerf Shiro
Nerf Sword
Nerf Retribution
Nerf Herald
Nerd Staff 5
And all are asking for hard Nerfs. But if someone says, “What will the Revenant get for the Nerf?” Everyone is raging on him.
Thiefs and Warriors complain about not being Meta all day long. I feel with you guys, because i feel the same. Played most Time Thief and Warrior before HoT. I would love to see these classes back in a viable spot. But to say that Revenant is the Problem for these classes is just not true. If Revenant would get deleted from the game, Warrior would not take his place, Thief would not be better in Teamfight and DH would still be what it is. To say that Rev and Thief have the same mobility is not true. A thief is still better in decapping and rotating. The job he had before the HoT desaster.
Im not even sure if Thief would get the fifth spot in ESL Teams if Revenant would get deleted.
If you want to have some fair discussions about your class, do the same for other classes.
I play Revenant at the Moment, because it is the closest profession to Thief and Warrior Gameplay. I truly hate Condi Mesmer. But do i move now to the Mesmer Forum and just Rage everyday on it because i cant beat it. NO. It is the last viable Build and Mesmer is a nice and tactical awesome class.
Sure, in my opinion Moa needs a rework in combination with Continuum Split. But on the other Side, i think about the impact of this Nerf. Would it balance the class. Would it still be viable. IF they do it, what could the Mesmer get insted.
All what some of you guys and ladys want to do is to delete Rev from PvP. But if you want to be part of the PvP, why Rev shouldn’t be able to stay there too.
Its not one skill that brings Rev out of Line compared to Thief and Warrior.
Its not on skill that brings Necro over the Top compared to other Condi Professions.
Its just not that easy. Many many things that came with HoT turned out to be horrible for PvP Health and Balance.
And here my opinion on hat post. The last one.

PS needs to be reworked. How it is at the moment is to strong. But dont make it garbage again. It still should be a damage dealing skill. But chill on top of it and also that high damage outpot is to much.
The Revenant should keep the survival abilitys against power Specs. That is what the class is. If we remove them without serious Buffs in Condicleanse. This class will move to trash in an instant.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Thanks for posting that

+1 to every post Cynz made in this thread. Elite specs (including Herald) are all OP. Nerfs are needed across the board.

Can we just compare warrior Axe 2 with rev Sword 2?

Warrior axe 2:
Whirl finisher
130 range, melee range required
6 s cooldown
1.1 damage coefficient
Applies vuln
cleaves 5

Rev sword 2:
Whirl finisher
600 range, melee range required
4 s cooldown
1 damage coefficient per projectile
cleaves 3

2.7x the damage coefficient with 66% the cooldown. Just saying.

@Themistokles I really don’t see how the only thing you’ve got from this is that we want Revenant deleted. Nope, we want it toning down which is currently very very deserved. I’ve already said they also need stuff buffing, and I also said I don’t want them removed altogether.
Yes, we all seem salty because quite frankly we are. I’d expect you and your fellow Rev players to be equally as salty if the boot was on the other foot, which currently you aren’t even close to. Right now the situation is quite literally that you might as well completely delete both Thief and Warrior because Revenant does all of their jobs simultaneously either better or just as well. So please stop talking as if we want Revenant deleted when the opposite is pretty much already happening. All of that, and your first post in this thread was “Revenant should keep its power because it was designed to counter other power specs” is so incredibly stupid it’s untrue. Sorry but as a power player that statement really, really annoys me.

i dont say it should keep its power in general. just that it should stay good against power builds because there is no option to be good against condi builds.
and first of all, and maybe it wasnt so clear when i said it before. i am just maining revenant because my classes are not able to be played anymore. i was playing allways power builds, never condi (dont like the way they work) so normaly i played thief, warri and sometimes power necro.
do you really think im happy with the situation? sure, Necro is a thing, but not with a power build. Thief is ok, but the role he takes (the same role he before) is not that needed anymore. warri is just…
Im also kittened of the situation that i cant play what i really want to play, but still, just hating on one class over and over again is not helping anyone.

vaxjani.9073:

What are you guys talking about, its a balanced skill. Reasonable damage, easy to interrupt…oh wait… /s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0QlyUfItUU

I can chip in too! ^^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O46iGZHEgSs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HvjS6Kyr8A

???
at least 3/4 cast time or riot

MadVisions.4529:

vaxjani.9073:

What are you guys talking about, its a balanced skill. Reasonable damage, easy to interrupt…oh wait… /s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0QlyUfItUU

I can chip in too! ^^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O46iGZHEgSs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HvjS6Kyr8A

???
at least 3/4 cast time or riot

wait wait wait!!! i found more!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqu2t8kco5A

Such animation hideing, so high casttime, wow!

EDIT:
you can guess! i found MORE!! XD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soOuBknNF_M

totally counterable by human reactions Kappa

MadVisions.4529:

MadVisions.4529:

vaxjani.9073:

What are you guys talking about, its a balanced skill. Reasonable damage, easy to interrupt…oh wait… /s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0QlyUfItUU

I can chip in too! ^^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O46iGZHEgSs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HvjS6Kyr8A

???
at least 3/4 cast time or riot

wait wait wait!!! i found more!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqu2t8kco5A

Such animation hideing, so high casttime, wow!

EDIT:
you can guess! i found MORE!! XD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soOuBknNF_M

totally counterable by human reactions Kappa

Oh look, a skill dealing damage that fast at technically point blank! Who would have thought.

XxsdgxX.8109:

Oh look, a skill dealing damage that fast at technically point blank! Who would have thought.

pardon?

XxsdgxX.8109:

MadVisions.4529:

MadVisions.4529:

vaxjani.9073:

What are you guys talking about, its a balanced skill. Reasonable damage, easy to interrupt…oh wait… /s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0QlyUfItUU

I can chip in too! ^^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O46iGZHEgSs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HvjS6Kyr8A

???
at least 3/4 cast time or riot

wait wait wait!!! i found more!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqu2t8kco5A

Such animation hideing, so high casttime, wow!

EDIT:
you can guess! i found MORE!! XD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soOuBknNF_M

totally counterable by human reactions Kappa

Oh look, a skill dealing damage that fast at technically point blank! Who would have thought.

Is this guy serious? Can i /faceplam ?

Cynz.9437:

XxsdgxX.8109:

MadVisions.4529:

MadVisions.4529:

vaxjani.9073:

What are you guys talking about, its a balanced skill. Reasonable damage, easy to interrupt…oh wait… /s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0QlyUfItUU

I can chip in too! ^^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O46iGZHEgSs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HvjS6Kyr8A

???
at least 3/4 cast time or riot

wait wait wait!!! i found more!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqu2t8kco5A

Such animation hideing, so high casttime, wow!

EDIT:
you can guess! i found MORE!! XD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soOuBknNF_M

totally counterable by human reactions Kappa

Oh look, a skill dealing damage that fast at technically point blank! Who would have thought.

Is this guy serious? Can i /faceplam ?

To be fair, he did eat those Precision Strikes at point blank. If he was attacked with it from out of melee range, there is plenty of time to avoid it.

BeepBoopBop.5403:

Cynz.9437:

XxsdgxX.8109:

MadVisions.4529:

MadVisions.4529:

vaxjani.9073:

What are you guys talking about, its a balanced skill. Reasonable damage, easy to interrupt…oh wait… /s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0QlyUfItUU

I can chip in too! ^^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O46iGZHEgSs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HvjS6Kyr8A

???
at least 3/4 cast time or riot

wait wait wait!!! i found more!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqu2t8kco5A

Such animation hideing, so high casttime, wow!

EDIT:
you can guess! i found MORE!! XD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soOuBknNF_M

totally counterable by human reactions Kappa

Oh look, a skill dealing damage that fast at technically point blank! Who would have thought.

Is this guy serious? Can i /faceplam ?

To be fair, he did eat those Precision Strikes at point blank. If he was attacked with it from out of melee range, there is plenty of time to avoid it.

Avoiding it wasn’t the point lol

Sorry its not just that one ability that is broken.
Sword 3 needs a nerf too. Not damage but ways for other classes to counter like anytime it gets blocked/blinded the ability will end early and staff 5 shouldn’t strip 5 stacks of stability and cc everyone into the ground.
Shield 5 shouldn’t give 3 seconds of block while healing so much, it needs to be a short 1-2s block.

Forestgreen.7981:

Sorry its not just that one ability that is broken.
Sword 3 needs a nerf too. Not damage but ways for other classes to counter like anytime it gets blocked/blinded the ability will end early and staff 5 shouldn’t strip 5 stacks of stability and cc everyone into the ground.
Shield 5 shouldn’t give 3 seconds of block while healing so much, it needs to be a short 1-2s block.

Can rapid fire stop attacking when i blind/dodge/block it too? Or volley or in fact all channeled abilities ingame? They should also break on stealth. See how stupid it look? Tyvm.

Also shield is already trash, thx to forum people that never heard about unblockables. Meanwhile hurr durr gear shield on 13cd with 3 second block. Cool story brah

Burtnik.5218:

Forestgreen.7981:

Sorry its not just that one ability that is broken.
Sword 3 needs a nerf too. Not damage but ways for other classes to counter like anytime it gets blocked/blinded the ability will end early and staff 5 shouldn’t strip 5 stacks of stability and cc everyone into the ground.
Shield 5 shouldn’t give 3 seconds of block while healing so much, it needs to be a short 1-2s block.

Can rapid fire stop attacking when i blind/dodge/block it too? Or volley or in fact all channeled abilities ingame? They should also break on stealth. See how stupid it look? Tyvm.

Also shield is already trash, thx to forum people that never heard about unblockables. Meanwhile hurr durr gear shield on 13cd with 3 second block. Cool story brah

hey i understand that you think youre an ok player because you play the most broken spec in the game, but the rest of us are trying to balance ty

Have the same experience guys, I prepared basilisk venom and waited for a revenant to jump me with the teleport. I used flanking strike and successfully dodged the hit from the teleport but the revenant got off the precision strike before i stunned him with the very same flanking strike so i lost half my hp while he was stunned.
(precision strike and flanking strike are both supposedly 1/2s cast time but flanking strike is in fact a longer cast)

Booms.3952:

Burtnik.5218:

Forestgreen.7981:

Sorry its not just that one ability that is broken.
Sword 3 needs a nerf too. Not damage but ways for other classes to counter like anytime it gets blocked/blinded the ability will end early and staff 5 shouldn’t strip 5 stacks of stability and cc everyone into the ground.
Shield 5 shouldn’t give 3 seconds of block while healing so much, it needs to be a short 1-2s block.

Can rapid fire stop attacking when i blind/dodge/block it too? Or volley or in fact all channeled abilities ingame? They should also break on stealth. See how stupid it look? Tyvm.

Also shield is already trash, thx to forum people that never heard about unblockables. Meanwhile hurr durr gear shield on 13cd with 3 second block. Cool story brah

hey i understand that you think youre an ok player because you play the most broken spec in the game, but the rest of us are trying to balance ty

I dont play rev and i dont play the game. You dont see my signature? Also i mained war, followed by ranger and guardian pre hot (not to mention that i was on gw2 since launch). Sword 3 is channeled ability just like the stuff i mentioned. Want apply it to UA? Apply it to everything else. Thats balance in case you didnt know. Time to git gut man.

And in case if you didnt know UA was already nerfed in duration by 0.5sec and damage by 22% while remaining kitten vs X number of targets.

vaxjani.9073:

What are you guys talking about, its a balanced skill. Reasonable damage, easy to interrupt…oh wait… /s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0QlyUfItUU

KEK! It still hits you AFTER you stun him. And here I was thinking I knew what ‘broken’ ment.

Burtnik.5218:

Forestgreen.7981:

Sorry its not just that one ability that is broken.
Sword 3 needs a nerf too. Not damage but ways for other classes to counter like anytime it gets blocked/blinded the ability will end early and staff 5 shouldn’t strip 5 stacks of stability and cc everyone into the ground.
Shield 5 shouldn’t give 3 seconds of block while healing so much, it needs to be a short 1-2s block.

Can rapid fire stop attacking when i blind/dodge/block it too? Or volley or in fact all channeled abilities ingame? They should also break on stealth. See how stupid it look? Tyvm.

Also shield is already trash, thx to forum people that never heard about unblockables. Meanwhile hurr durr gear shield on 13cd with 3 second block. Cool story brah

Unrelenting assault is like Hundred blades with evades, with lock on target, with teleport. Would you like it if every warrior had this now?

Sirendor.1394:

Unrelenting assault is like Hundred blades with evades, with lock on target, with teleport. Would you like it if every warrior had this now?

100b hits for 50% more. And warrior isn’t in the meta so?

Sirendor.1394:

Burtnik.5218:

Forestgreen.7981:

Sorry its not just that one ability that is broken.
Sword 3 needs a nerf too. Not damage but ways for other classes to counter like anytime it gets blocked/blinded the ability will end early and staff 5 shouldn’t strip 5 stacks of stability and cc everyone into the ground.
Shield 5 shouldn’t give 3 seconds of block while healing so much, it needs to be a short 1-2s block.

Can rapid fire stop attacking when i blind/dodge/block it too? Or volley or in fact all channeled abilities ingame? They should also break on stealth. See how stupid it look? Tyvm.

Also shield is already trash, thx to forum people that never heard about unblockables. Meanwhile hurr durr gear shield on 13cd with 3 second block. Cool story brah

Unrelenting assault is like Hundred blades with evades, with lock on target, with teleport. Would you like it if every warrior had this now?

UA doesnt hit nowhere as hard as HB. But even if you would give war a skill like that i wont care. Tell you why? Cause i have no issues dealing with it. You literally have no idea how hard you can punish a rev when he exists UA. On my warrior i just gunflame them in face for over half hp as example.

Burtnik.5218:

Sirendor.1394:

Burtnik.5218:

Forestgreen.7981:

Sorry its not just that one ability that is broken.
Sword 3 needs a nerf too. Not damage but ways for other classes to counter like anytime it gets blocked/blinded the ability will end early and staff 5 shouldn’t strip 5 stacks of stability and cc everyone into the ground.
Shield 5 shouldn’t give 3 seconds of block while healing so much, it needs to be a short 1-2s block.

Can rapid fire stop attacking when i blind/dodge/block it too? Or volley or in fact all channeled abilities ingame? They should also break on stealth. See how stupid it look? Tyvm.

Also shield is already trash, thx to forum people that never heard about unblockables. Meanwhile hurr durr gear shield on 13cd with 3 second block. Cool story brah

Unrelenting assault is like Hundred blades with evades, with lock on target, with teleport. Would you like it if every warrior had this now?

UA doesnt hit nowhere as hard as HB. But even if you would give war a skill like that i wont care. Tell you why? Cause i have no issues dealing with it. You literally have no idea how hard you can punish a rev when he exists UA. On my warrior i just gunflame them in face for over half hp as example.

If you get hit by the entire HB, you either got set up real hard or are real bad. UA only weakness is groups and even then you’re still locked hard on a target while gaining might for each hit. Warriors needs to trait for might on GS and the might duration is way shorter and HB needs to be setup. UA is spam it off CD and force opponents to use both dodges or get destroyed while dodging everything.
Warriors get blinded from hell and back, you can blind gunflame as you’re exiting UA using herald then switch to block-city or cc-city with staff 5. No worries revs aren’t getting any nerfs because A-Net needs to sell more copies of HoT.

Cynz.9437:

Burtnik.5218:

Or maybe thief ends up stuck inside a wall or being unable to move till he wont use another mobility skill? But its okay, kid, i will leave it at this point, no reason to argue with someone who thinks reveal is op.

I got stuck in the walls plenty of times and couldn’t use port skills either. I had to relog actually.

You guys want to talk stuck in terrain bugs. Let’s not forget Rev’s special power in that regard XD

https://youtu.be/Mj0ZvV0x_SA?t=297

Cynz.9437:

BeepBoopBop.5403:

Cynz.9437:

XxsdgxX.8109:

MadVisions.4529:

MadVisions.4529:

vaxjani.9073:

What are you guys talking about, its a balanced skill. Reasonable damage, easy to interrupt…oh wait… /s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0QlyUfItUU

I can chip in too! ^^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O46iGZHEgSs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HvjS6Kyr8A

???
at least 3/4 cast time or riot

wait wait wait!!! i found more!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqu2t8kco5A

Such animation hideing, so high casttime, wow!

EDIT:
you can guess! i found MORE!! XD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soOuBknNF_M

totally counterable by human reactions Kappa

Oh look, a skill dealing damage that fast at technically point blank! Who would have thought.

Is this guy serious? Can i /faceplam ?

To be fair, he did eat those Precision Strikes at point blank. If he was attacked with it from out of melee range, there is plenty of time to avoid it.

Avoiding it wasn’t the point lol

Let me guess, the “OP” damage that is completely trash 1vX is?

Ross Biddle.2367:

Cynz.9437:

Burtnik.5218:

Or maybe thief ends up stuck inside a wall or being unable to move till he wont use another mobility skill? But its okay, kid, i will leave it at this point, no reason to argue with someone who thinks reveal is op.

I got stuck in the walls plenty of times and couldn’t use port skills either. I had to relog actually.

You guys want to talk stuck in terrain bugs. Let’s not forget Rev’s special power in that regard XD

https://youtu.be/Mj0ZvV0x_SA?t=297

I did the same thing with ranger lb 4.. many times. Its problem with the maps being bugged as kitten.

BeepBoopBop.5403:

Cynz.9437:

BeepBoopBop.5403:

Cynz.9437:

XxsdgxX.8109:

MadVisions.4529:

MadVisions.4529:

vaxjani.9073:

What are you guys talking about, its a balanced skill. Reasonable damage, easy to interrupt…oh wait… /s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0QlyUfItUU

I can chip in too! ^^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O46iGZHEgSs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HvjS6Kyr8A

???
at least 3/4 cast time or riot

wait wait wait!!! i found more!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqu2t8kco5A

Such animation hideing, so high casttime, wow!

EDIT:
you can guess! i found MORE!! XD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soOuBknNF_M

totally counterable by human reactions Kappa

Oh look, a skill dealing damage that fast at technically point blank! Who would have thought.

Is this guy serious? Can i /faceplam ?

To be fair, he did eat those Precision Strikes at point blank. If he was attacked with it from out of melee range, there is plenty of time to avoid it.

Avoiding it wasn’t the point lol

Let me guess, the “OP” damage that is completely trash 1vX is?

Yes because projectiles go around your target to hit the others behind him and they don’t hit your target if you stand inside his hitbox.

Forestgreen.7981:

Sorry its not just that one ability that is broken.
Sword 3 needs a nerf too. Not damage but ways for other classes to counter like anytime it gets blocked/blinded the ability will end early and staff 5 shouldn’t strip 5 stacks of stability and cc everyone into the ground.
Shield 5 shouldn’t give 3 seconds of block while healing so much, it needs to be a short 1-2s block.

True! The first time it hits you should CC you or remove one stack of stability. If you get hit a second time it should just pass through you

BeepBoopBop.5403:

Cynz.9437:

BeepBoopBop.5403:

Cynz.9437:

XxsdgxX.8109:

MadVisions.4529:

MadVisions.4529:

vaxjani.9073:

What are you guys talking about, its a balanced skill. Reasonable damage, easy to interrupt…oh wait… /s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0QlyUfItUU

I can chip in too! ^^
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O46iGZHEgSs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HvjS6Kyr8A

???
at least 3/4 cast time or riot

wait wait wait!!! i found more!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqu2t8kco5A

Such animation hideing, so high casttime, wow!

EDIT:
you can guess! i found MORE!! XD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soOuBknNF_M

totally counterable by human reactions Kappa

Oh look, a skill dealing damage that fast at technically point blank! Who would have thought.

Is this guy serious? Can i /faceplam ?

To be fair, he did eat those Precision Strikes at point blank. If he was attacked with it from out of melee range, there is plenty of time to avoid it.

Avoiding it wasn’t the point lol

Let me guess, the “OP” damage that is completely trash 1vX is?

Oh man, i lost hope in humanity. No, the point was that it is impossible to interrupt. Event if you by some sheer luck manage to interrupt rev the spell is still executed.

Given all the other lovely features of this spell (short CD, extremely high dmg, auto targeting, ignores ranged limit and LOS etc.) it is not OK. Even backstab that has way higher requirements, hits for way less and doesn’t have all those lovely features is actually interuptable.

Booms.2594:

Yup that’s actually what anet is going to do. They think that will fix this broken short cd skill that does 5-8k damage.
Who here thinks that this will balance the single skill that makes revenant by far the strongest class in the game?
Just freaking revert the change and make it a 3s cd kitten . This change is stupid and will never ever ever ever work.
I don’t care if PZ and abjured tell you that they NEED precision strike or else the meta will be bad. Freaking nerf the kitten out of this skill its so kittenING kittenED

give it 10s cd and also give DH’s longbow #2 skill a 10s cd
balance achieved

Rezzet.3614:

Booms.2594:

Yup that’s actually what anet is going to do. They think that will fix this broken short cd skill that does 5-8k damage.
Who here thinks that this will balance the single skill that makes revenant by far the strongest class in the game?
Just freaking revert the change and make it a 3s cd kitten . This change is stupid and will never ever ever ever work.
I don’t care if PZ and abjured tell you that they NEED precision strike or else the meta will be bad. Freaking nerf the kitten out of this skill its so kittenING kittenED

give it 10s cd and also give DH’s longbow #2 skill a 10s cd
balance achieved

Make lb 2 instant cast then… Exactly