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Posted by: McKenna Berdrow

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Worlds have now been re-linked.

We have reset glicko volatility and deviation for all worlds to the same value, but have left their rating unchanged (this includes worlds that were previously guest worlds but are now host worlds). Just to reiterate, resetting glicko volatility and deviation will result in greater rating shifts in the first few matches. This will give worlds the opportunity to move into their ideal matchup tier much faster.

Here are the worlds for EU:
• Desolation (EN)
• Far Shiverpeaks & Whiteside Ridge & Fissure of Woe (EN)
• Gandara & Underworld (EN)
• Jade Sea & Arborstone (FR)
• Piken Square & Blacktide (EN)
• Kodash (DE)
• Drakkar Lake & Miller Sound (DE)
• Riverside (DE)
• Seafarer’s Rest & Ruins of Surmia (EN)
• Baruch Bay (ES)
• Vizunah Square & Augury Rock & Fort Ranik (FR)
• Elona Reach (DE)
• Aurora Glade & Ring of fire (EN)
• Abaddon’s Mouth & Dzagonur (DE)
• Gunnar’s Hold & Vabbi (EN)

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Posted by: Malediktus.3740

Malediktus.3740

really? FSP gets 2 servers although they are #1?

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Posted by: Jugglemonkey.8741

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Not convinced Gandara or Piken needed linking, let alone fsp. But ah well, let’s see how it plays out.

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Posted by: Kasteros.9847

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really? FSP gets 2 servers although they are #1?

They are 2nd tbh, but still way higher than Gandara with 1 server.

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Posted by: Dayra.7405

Dayra.7405

really? FSP gets 2 servers although they are #1?

Only people count number of server is irrelevant,
Probably they are nearly empty.
And as transfer target for 500 gems it desn’t matter if it is 1 or 2.

Population seem to be further shrinking 1 tier less than before

Ceterum censeo SFR esse delendam!

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Posted by: Malediktus.3740

Malediktus.3740

really? FSP gets 2 servers although they are #1?

They are 2nd tbh, but still way higher than Gandara with 1 server.

But desolation got its partner server removed, so they wont be able to hold their tiny lead to rank 1.

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Posted by: Kasteros.9847

Kasteros.9847

really? FSP gets 2 servers although they are #1?

Only people count number of server is irrelevant,
Probably they are nearly empty.
And as transfer target for 500 gems it desn’t matter if it is 1 or 2.

Population seem to be further shrinking 1 tier less than before

They had queues for every border every single day for last 3 weeks, but ok… They are empty

“Anet and servers linking” It is not knowledge, it is state of mind

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Posted by: tadeuhunter.2473

tadeuhunter.2473

where is US links ?

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Posted by: Dayra.7405

Dayra.7405

really? FSP gets 2 servers although they are #1?

Only people count number of server is irrelevant,
Probably they are nearly empty.
And as transfer target for 500 gems it desn’t matter if it is 1 or 2.

Population seem to be further shrinking 1 tier less than before

They had queues for every border every single day for last 3 weeks, but ok… They are empty

“Anet and servers linking” It is not knowledge, it is state of mind

WsR and FoW had queue?

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Posted by: Kasteros.9847

Kasteros.9847

really? FSP gets 2 servers although they are #1?

Only people count number of server is irrelevant,
Probably they are nearly empty.
And as transfer target for 500 gems it desn’t matter if it is 1 or 2.

Population seem to be further shrinking 1 tier less than before

They had queues for every border every single day for last 3 weeks, but ok… They are empty

“Anet and servers linking” It is not knowledge, it is state of mind

WsR and FoW had queue?

FSP had, so I don’t see a point to give em 2 servers… As They I refered to FSP server, because other servers( wsr and fow) doesn’t matter anymore, as they have mixed queues with main servers

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Posted by: Dayra.7405

Dayra.7405

really? FSP gets 2 servers although they are #1?

Only people count number of server is irrelevant,
Probably they are nearly empty.
And as transfer target for 500 gems it desn’t matter if it is 1 or 2.

Population seem to be further shrinking 1 tier less than before

They had queues for every border every single day for last 3 weeks, but ok… They are empty

“Anet and servers linking” It is not knowledge, it is state of mind

WsR and FoW had queue?

FSP had, so I don’t see a point to give em 2 servers…

Better 2 server a 10 people than 1 with 25, right? But yeah none wold have been better.

Still we don’t know how ANet computes population, probably quite a messy way.

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Posted by: zhonnika.1784

zhonnika.1784

where is US links ?

Those won’t be posted until NA reset happens.

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Posted by: Kasteros.9847

Kasteros.9847

really? FSP gets 2 servers although they are #1?

Only people count number of server is irrelevant,
Probably they are nearly empty.
And as transfer target for 500 gems it desn’t matter if it is 1 or 2.

Population seem to be further shrinking 1 tier less than before

They had queues for every border every single day for last 3 weeks, but ok… They are empty

“Anet and servers linking” It is not knowledge, it is state of mind

WsR and FoW had queue?

FSP had, so I don’t see a point to give em 2 servers…

Better 2 server a 10 people than 1 with 25, right? But yeah none wold have been better.

Still we don’t know how ANet computes population, probably quite a messy way.

They wrote that it is based on number of players playing WvW… But I bet it is like: “1000 players was playing WvW during this month, but only 100 for more than 1 day… Still let’s make it high, as 1k ppl was playing gamemode”

And yeah it would be better to give 1 server to every 1 of those servers, but with lowest population to 1st server, medium to 2nd server and highest to 3rd server. And now deso have 50 queue for EB only, while FSP have 80 queue for EB and 15-20 for every other border. That is good balance ><

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Posted by: victor.5436

victor.5436

I really dislike the German server linking. From my experience it should have been Dl+Dzagonur and MS+Abaddon.

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Posted by: Dayra.7405

Dayra.7405

There is and will never be balance with server anymore. Much to many people have accounts distributed over multiple server or pay 500 gems transfer with left and play where the grass is greenest due to heavy bag rain.

Ceterum censeo SFR esse delendam!

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Posted by: Malediktus.3740

Malediktus.3740

really? FSP gets 2 servers although they are #1?

Only people count number of server is irrelevant,
Probably they are nearly empty.
And as transfer target for 500 gems it desn’t matter if it is 1 or 2.

Population seem to be further shrinking 1 tier less than before

They had queues for every border every single day for last 3 weeks, but ok… They are empty

“Anet and servers linking” It is not knowledge, it is state of mind

WsR and FoW had queue?

FSP had, so I don’t see a point to give em 2 servers…

Better 2 server a 10 people than 1 with 25, right? But yeah none wold have been better.

Still we don’t know how ANet computes population, probably quite a messy way.

Pretty sure FoW got many transfers because they were linked with Gandara

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Posted by: Ragnarox.9601

Ragnarox.9601

seems like they want to kill gandara completely, 3 weeks outnumbered with deso and now 4th week again deso plus FSP (with 2 servers).

Our border have 1 camp only. Only thing that is competitive is EB……thanx…..I wont play this week.

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Posted by: Dayra.7405

Dayra.7405

seems like they want to kill gandara completely, 3 weeks outnumbered with deso and now 4th week again deso plus FSP (with 2 servers).

Our border have 1 camp only. Only thing that is competitive is EB……thanx…..I wont play this week.

Sounds like a quite natural match to me 1st vs 2nd vs 3rd

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Posted by: Johje Holan.4607

Johje Holan.4607

We have reset glicko volatility and deviation for all worlds to the same value, but have left their rating unchanged (this includes worlds that were previously guest worlds but are now host worlds).

Darn, they didn’t even normalize Glicko. Anet, didn’t you all learn from the NA T4 debacle last linkings?

Especially if a guest world becomes a host. What’s their Glicko going to be? The same it was prior to linkings? If a new lower tier server becomes a host their Glicko is going to be way too low. And if they happen to be good, even with the volatility and deviation adjustments, they’ll still be trapped in Glicko hell. Just like the 4-headed hydra last time.

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Posted by: Malediktus.3740

Malediktus.3740

lol T1 EU is so ruined. FSP ticks higher than deso and gandara together and it is reset night
guess Anet is trying to ruin WvW on purpose so they can delete it to save costs

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Posted by: zinkz.7045

zinkz.7045

There is and will never be balance with server anymore.

There has never been balance.

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Posted by: tony.9425

tony.9425

See what we have there…a deso easymoder who is qqing… guess what anets purpose is… that not 1 server sits on nr1 for month like sfr or now deso did.

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Posted by: Kasteros.9847

Kasteros.9847

seems like they want to kill gandara completely, 3 weeks outnumbered with deso and now 4th week again deso plus FSP (with 2 servers).

Our border have 1 camp only. Only thing that is competitive is EB……thanx…..I wont play this week.

Sounds like a quite natural match to me 1st vs 2nd vs 3rd

yet the point is that Gandara isn’t 3rd… In fact they should be aroung 5-7 place atm.

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Posted by: Kasteros.9847

Kasteros.9847

See what we have there…a deso easymoder who is qqing… guess what anets purpose is… that not 1 server sits on nr1 for month like sfr or now deso did.

It is not about kolding 1st place. It is about population. I don’t know how you, but I don’t like empty borders. And that is what is happening on deso atm. While FSP have queues everywhere. Wouldn’t it be smart to give one of those servers to deso and so on fill borders? Nah. Better let them wait in queues.

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Posted by: Svarty.8019

Svarty.8019

/facepalm

Nobody at Anet loves WvW like Grouch loved PvP. That’s what we need, a WvW Grouch, but taller.

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Posted by: Cerby.1069

Cerby.1069

cant u title this: euro server relinks…

I mean you did the same thing last link. You post WORLD RELINKS like its the definitive version…..and u don’t have any of the NA servers listed. Then last time you posted the NA server relinks as a reply to some1 elses thread instead of ‘editing this one and putting them in’ or ‘making a new post saying they are up’.

It was hard to find and makes NA feel like a less important set of servers :/

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Posted by: CrimsonNeonite.1048

CrimsonNeonite.1048

Time for Deso to rebuild, if people are bothered anyway, instead of relying on links and night capping.
No idea why they think FSP, needs two servers though.

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Posted by: kroter.1326

kroter.1326

• Far Shiverpeaks & Whiteside Ridge & Fissure of Woe (EN)

With all the bandwagoning they were getting, and now with +2 servers, they will probably outblob Desolation.

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Posted by: Jayne.9251

Jayne.9251

OMG Piken got paired! Welcome Blacktide folks.

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Posted by: bigFM.8642

bigFM.8642

Linking FSP with 2 servers… give me a break. I can’t take this serious. They are already miles ahead in this matchup and will most likely outnumber everyone 24/7. It will only get worse though, once those two servers fill up with bandwagoners. This is pretty demoralizing tbh. I can not understand the reasoning behind this decision and think linking should be redone asap…^^

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Posted by: Balthazzarr.1349

Balthazzarr.1349

You did this last time too… where are the NA linkings?

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Posted by: Aezyr.5304

Aezyr.5304

You did this last time too… where are the NA linkings?

When you learn to read.

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Posted by: joneirikb.7506

joneirikb.7506

You did this last time too… where are the NA linkings?

As said above, and the “last time” they did the same. They will be posted AFTER they’ve been re-linked, so no-one knows before-hand. EU just have their reset a bunch of hours before NA, so the linking happens earlier.

Kinda hoping we get linked again, I’ve been so inactive last 2 months due to real life (and other games…) that I have barely seen you in game yet.

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Posted by: Balthazzarr.1349

Balthazzarr.1349

You did this last time too… where are the NA linkings?

As said above, and the “last time” they did the same. They will be posted AFTER they’ve been re-linked, so no-one knows before-hand. EU just have their reset a bunch of hours before NA, so the linking happens earlier.

Kinda hoping we get linked again, I’ve been so inactive last 2 months due to real life (and other games…) that I have barely seen you in game yet.

I guess it could be because EU is a day ahead of us?? :P

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Posted by: aiinseinn.5914

aiinseinn.5914

it sounds wierd .. sfr + + ??

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Posted by: Atoss.1056

Atoss.1056

World linking is, imo, more like a solution to the deficit of active players on several servers rather than balancing population all around.

If you expect a long term balance and the rumoured PPT rework – more pts during evening active hours, less during nights (not sure if it’s already in game or not or if it’s being worked on – I’m not playing much), well… There are prolly gonna be 1 or 2 more expansions to the game in some future 2-3 years, but honestly after already 4 years, I doubt Anet would spend resources to really polish this problem. Maybe GW3 someday with a different system, guild alliances or something…

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Posted by: Loken.7684

Loken.7684

Jesus what were they thinking. Seems biased to me. This needs fixing asap.

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Posted by: Gildarts.2594

Gildarts.2594

well as national server u are doomed these days. Before server linking u were outnumbered during eurpoean daytime and were facing even higher numbers of people at night vs international servers. And now international servers get linked seems like a bad joke… wvw impossible on a national server atm.
best joke was playing vs SFR and Desolation as kodash and this server were not marked as full and kodash was marked as full and we had outnumbered buff on every border at every daytime, like they wanna troll german players

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Posted by: Junkpile.7439

Junkpile.7439

After 4 years they still can’t figure out that people only play if they winning. Then they link server that have huge potential WvW population together with two other servers. Facerolling start when these (let’s call them leechers) notice that they are winning and come leeching.

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Posted by: Jeknar.6184

Jeknar.6184

After 4 years they still can’t figure out that people only play if they winning. Then they link server that have huge potential WvW population together with two other servers. Facerolling start when these (let’s call them leechers) notice that they are winning and come leeching.

Despite the fact that you are clearly trolling (as usual), it’s sad that this is the real way your average player thinks today. If he see there is a possiblity that he won’t win, he won’t even try. Then you get stuck with one side flooded with fairweather leechers, while the oposition are just a handful of diehards who refuse who join the brainless mass.

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Posted by: Rainiris.1975

Rainiris.1975

Anet, you need to reconsider discriminating links based on language. I don’t get why Riverside is not linked.

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Posted by: Jeknar.6184

Jeknar.6184

Anet, you need to reconsider discriminating links based on language. I don’t get why Riverside is not linked.

Bruh, if there is a server that will get the short end of the stick in the separation by language, it’s Baruch Bay… There is no other spanish server for them to be linked. If it ever happen to Baruch become dead last, it’s over for them. There will be no hope.

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Posted by: Deli.1302

Deli.1302

Anet, you need to reconsider discriminating links based on language. I don’t get why Riverside is not linked.

Because your server population is big enough not to need it. And I’m pretty sure the guilds on Riverside don’t want to be linked.

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Posted by: McKenna Berdrow

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Here are the worlds for NA:

• Dragonbrand
• Blackgate
• Jade Quarry
• Tarnished Coast & Kaineng
• Maguuma & Borlis Pass
• Fort Aspenwood & Sanctum of Rall
• Sea of Sorrows & Isle of Janthir
• Stormbluff Isle & Gate of Madness
• Yak’s Bend & Ferguson’s Crossing
• Crystal Desert & Sorrow’s Furnace & Anvil Rock
• Henge of Denravi & Ehmry Bay & Eredon Terrace
• Northern Shiverpeaks & Darkhaven & Devona’s Rest

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Posted by: Boysenberry.1869

Boysenberry.1869

No pairing for JQ? Since they are a relative ghost town outside of overnight compared to the other tier 1 and even tier 2 servers, they are going to be hurting.

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Posted by: Roxanne.6140

Roxanne.6140

No pairing for JQ? Since they are a relative ghost town outside of overnight compared to the other tier 1 and even tier 2 servers, they are going to be hurting.

JQ is barely in tier 1 yet TC gets a link. lmao. nuff said


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Posted by: Vova.2640

Vova.2640

Im kinda surprised TC got a link….
In my eyes TC was always the 2nd most stacked server after BG…

Look at how effective someone is in a full Soldiers set.
Look at how effective someone is in a full Dire set.
Nice balance.

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Posted by: Malpractice.7850

Malpractice.7850

Im kinda surprised TC got a link….
In my eyes TC was always the 2nd most stacked server after BG…

They dont have queus after friday, so, eh.

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Posted by: Jeknar.6184

Jeknar.6184

Im kinda surprised TC got a link….
In my eyes TC was always the 2nd most stacked server after BG…

TC was faring even worse than JQ last time they were in T1. Honestly I think both of them needed a link (No BG or DB tho) but I guess Anet wanted to try 3 tri-links this time (Altho we got YB+FC on T4 matchup atm and not CD tri-link).

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Posted by: jason.9548

jason.9548

Your guys don’t even know anything about jq. Jq just got half of DragonBrand na due to drama. I knew that server was going to fall apart with all the drama Queens. Join tc today pm me if interested.