Guild Wars 2

Thumbs-up from me.

Pixelpumpkin.4608:

Anymras.5729:

stuff

Thank you for your comments!

How about this:

TL;DR for Gaile

• create a bomb, a grenade, and a medkit “weapon” held in hand
• if back item is equipped and box set to “show backitem”: always show back item (override hobo sack)
  —> even if it is a back item without skin, so people can go with nothing on their back
• if back item is equipped and box set to NOT “show backitem”: show hobo sack
• on standard player models (competitive PvP): show hobo sack

• Shields will still clash with back items, but it is the same problem (and can be handled the same) as any other class that has access to shields or sheathed weapons on the back, such as bows, greatswords.

This way, people who always want to see their backpiece can do so. People who like hobosacks can wear them. People who would like absolutely nothing on their backs can have that. And people who need to see a visual tell in order to know what weapon or kit the engi is using at the time, can do so.

Community: did I summarize this correctly? Is this the easy fix that will make almost every player happy – those that hate and those that love and those few that rely on seeing hobo sacks?

yeap…sounds about right. Everybody should be happy then…though i might also add another point that i (personally) find should be present aswell

- Beeing able to holster the kit weapon like it would be a normal weapon

Its not all that nice to be stuck constantly in battle stance, its like an ele could never put his\her staff or dagger or whatever away. Not sure how many would agree on that..and not like i (personally) would flip my kitten if that wouldnt be added or something..but it would be nice regardless.

Kinda curious now how far this thread will go before any changes are made.

It was here shortly after the game began.
It will be here, given the perpetual ‘other things take priority’ attitude, until shortly before it ends – because only then will there not be anything else ‘in the pipeline,’ though I may have missed some opportunity to monetize some other tiny, tiny aspect of the game that would push it back to ‘Well, we were finally going to fix hobosacks, but then the company killed the servers, so it doesn’t matter anymore.’

I think we should have this ability. When in game, if we’re using a bomb kit or grenade kit or any other kit that looks terrible and we encounter an Anet employee in the game on their avatar, modify our grenades so that we can throw our hobosacks at the anet employees avatar which will permanently equip a hobosack on their avatar until they log out no matter the class. That way, we’ll at least get some attention in this matter :P

Please get rid of the hobo sacks! My poor Replica Job-o-Tron backpack is suffocating!

@PAX – “I know you are all expecting an announcement of an expansion, but sadly that isn’t happening. instead we are removing the hobosack”
Crowd “BOOOOOOOO”
1% – Fist Pump!

My frands! There is a secret to bypass your kit backpack and use your real one! LOOK AT MY GRILL TOOL KIT!

Wahoo! Bye frands!

Basaltface.2786:

Pixelpumpkin.4608:

Anymras.5729:

stuff

Thank you for your comments!

How about this:

TL;DR for Gaile

• create a bomb, a grenade, and a medkit “weapon” held in hand
• if back item is equipped and box set to “show backitem”: always show back item (override hobo sack)
  —> even if it is a back item without skin, so people can go with nothing on their back
• if back item is equipped and box set to NOT “show backitem”: show hobo sack
• on standard player models (competitive PvP): show hobo sack

• Shields will still clash with back items, but it is the same problem (and can be handled the same) as any other class that has access to shields or sheathed weapons on the back, such as bows, greatswords.

This way, people who always want to see their backpiece can do so. People who like hobosacks can wear them. People who would like absolutely nothing on their backs can have that. And people who need to see a visual tell in order to know what weapon or kit the engi is using at the time, can do so.

Community: did I summarize this correctly? Is this the easy fix that will make almost every player happy – those that hate and those that love and those few that rely on seeing hobo sacks?

yeap…sounds about right. Everybody should be happy then…though i might also add another point that i (personally) find should be present aswell

Now the question is, how DO we get Gaile back into the thread? :P

Pixelpumpkin.4608:

Basaltface.2786:

Pixelpumpkin.4608:

Anymras.5729:

stuff

Thank you for your comments!

How about this:

TL;DR for Gaile

• create a bomb, a grenade, and a medkit “weapon” held in hand
• if back item is equipped and box set to “show backitem”: always show back item (override hobo sack)
  —> even if it is a back item without skin, so people can go with nothing on their back
• if back item is equipped and box set to NOT “show backitem”: show hobo sack
• on standard player models (competitive PvP): show hobo sack

• Shields will still clash with back items, but it is the same problem (and can be handled the same) as any other class that has access to shields or sheathed weapons on the back, such as bows, greatswords.

This way, people who always want to see their backpiece can do so. People who like hobosacks can wear them. People who would like absolutely nothing on their backs can have that. And people who need to see a visual tell in order to know what weapon or kit the engi is using at the time, can do so.

Community: did I summarize this correctly? Is this the easy fix that will make almost every player happy – those that hate and those that love and those few that rely on seeing hobo sacks?

yeap…sounds about right. Everybody should be happy then…though i might also add another point that i (personally) find should be present aswell

Now the question is, how DO we get Gaile back into the thread? :P

Theoretically, the staff reads this thread, though they’re unlikely to say anything due to Anet’s policies.

Anymras.5729:

Pixelpumpkin.4608:

Basaltface.2786:

Pixelpumpkin.4608:

Anymras.5729:

stuff

Thank you for your comments!

How about this:

TL;DR for Gaile

• create a bomb, a grenade, and a medkit “weapon” held in hand
• if back item is equipped and box set to “show backitem”: always show back item (override hobo sack)
  —> even if it is a back item without skin, so people can go with nothing on their back
• if back item is equipped and box set to NOT “show backitem”: show hobo sack
• on standard player models (competitive PvP): show hobo sack

• Shields will still clash with back items, but it is the same problem (and can be handled the same) as any other class that has access to shields or sheathed weapons on the back, such as bows, greatswords.

This way, people who always want to see their backpiece can do so. People who like hobosacks can wear them. People who would like absolutely nothing on their backs can have that. And people who need to see a visual tell in order to know what weapon or kit the engi is using at the time, can do so.

Community: did I summarize this correctly? Is this the easy fix that will make almost every player happy – those that hate and those that love and those few that rely on seeing hobo sacks?

yeap…sounds about right. Everybody should be happy then…though i might also add another point that i (personally) find should be present aswell

Now the question is, how DO we get Gaile back into the thread? :P

Theoretically, the staff reads this thread, though they’re unlikely to say anything due to Anet’s policies.

well we got some reply after 1 year… thats SOMETHING i suppose.

I know I, at least, posted in a thread she’d posted in shortly before she posted in this one; the thread in question was about capes, and my post was calling out the dissonance of the reasoning provided for why/why not capes by pointing out hobosacks.

If that kind of ‘track them down and call them out’ is required, it’s rather disheartening, though I’ll never be certain whether that’s really what brought her to this thread.

so yea.. lets get one thing right away out here. If one of you guys… ya know.. one of the guys who actually reads that kitten here gets a forum specialist that topic gets better rubbed into every darn devs face that can be found. Force fed till it stays down and gets fixed…kay?

Thank you, Gaile.

Lets make 2015 the year when hobo sacks are abolished from society.

So, while loading an in-progress Maw, pop-in graphics gave me a glimpse into the future we all want to come to past.

Behold, Elixir Gun… with no hobosack!

It o_o it .. is … O_O
BEAUTIFUL Q_Q

That Elixir Gun without the hobosack is a beautiful thing.

Yea it’s very satisfying just looking at it

I think NASA will announce the first manned shuttle going to Mars before this ever gets fixed. Just my prediction.

Nikkinella.8254:

I think NASA will announce the first manned shuttle going to Mars before this ever gets fixed. Just my prediction.

generous much? Till we are not on titan there goes nothing imo

Two days, let’s see if they even address this issue at all or mention it. sigh

Lets hope we see something about this tomorrow on http://www.twitch.tv/guildwars2/.

Engi was my 4th 80 and I’ve been totally in love since I started. And she looks so cool in the armor I’ve gotten for her. And I finally have a reason to try for a legendary simply because it looks so dang cool…

And then on top of my midnight teal and amber colored armor sits my giant “hobosack” :/ Its just so huge. Now, I believe it helps define us (in pvp), but, why so big and bland colored? Why can’t it look cool?

To keep it fair to the other classes, don’t let us customize it completely. Maybe just let us change the color (which I’m sure has been suggested in the 1000+ replies). Or maybe just improve the look. Maybe the grenade and bomb sacks could represent the kit better, kind of how the elixir gun kits does. Maybe make them just look more high-tech, I mean, we are Engineers after all! Surely with the expertise to build explosives and mix elixirs we would have come up with a better way to carry it than stitching together some mismatched cloth, overstuffing it, and strapping it to our backs.

Just some of my thoughts that I’m sure others have also shared. I would really enjoy cosmetic upgrade. But – I feel its important they are still seen.

Xyonon.3987:

Lets hope we see something about this tomorrow on http://www.twitch.tv/guildwars2/.

how do you feel after that bubble burst?

I dont think I saw a backpack on that Hammer Engi in the expansion trailer.

I bet the new specialization will allow you to master an ability to hide your hobosacks. “Hobosack cloaking device”, perhaps.

i didnt notice a kit on the hamma engi but does that mean progress with this issue ;O

No, that very clearly just means that the hammer is not a kit. I don’t think most people even though that in the first place.

zaced.7948:

Xyonon.3987:

Lets hope we see something about this tomorrow on http://www.twitch.tv/guildwars2/.

how do you feel after that bubble burst?

:(

Quickly making sure this does not slip to page two.

And do not fret yet, gentlemen. Anet may have disappointed in the past, but all good things can come in the future. And what better time to fix hobosacks than an expansion? Of course it would not get a separate announcement. Fixes aren’t features.

So let us watch, be ready, and prepare congratulatory whiskey bottles for our celebration, kept safe in backpacks full of them that look like they were made out of badly stitched rags.
______________________

For we.

Are.

The Engineers.
_______________________
The eternal fighters of the hobosack. Need we grenade them, bomb them, nuke them away, shrink them with alchemy or dissolve them. Let them -try- to envelop us. But they will NEVER break us.

Gentlemen! My brethren! We fight this war for GLORY! For PRETTINESS! For BACKPIECES! SO RAISE YOUR KITS UP HIGH! LET THE FLAMETHROWERS LIGHT THE PATH TO OUR HOBOSACK-LESS FUTURE! FOR WE CAN ONLY KEEP UP THE GOOD FIGHT, BOMB-KIT OUR WAYS TO FREEDOM!

And soon… it shall be the hobosacks that shall smell the Ashes.

Sold Out.7625:

Quickly making sure this does not slip to page two.

And do not fret yet, gentlemen. Anet may have disappointed in the past, but all good things can come in the future. And what better time to fix hobosacks than an expansion? Of course it would not get a separate announcement. Fixes aren’t features.

So let us watch, be ready, and prepare congratulatory whiskey bottles for our celebration, kept safe in backpacks full of them that look like they were made out of badly stitched rags.
______________________

For we.

Are.

The Engineers.
_______________________
The eternal fighters of the hobosack. Need we grenade them, bomb them, nuke them away, shrink them with alchemy or dissolve them. Let them -try- to envelop us. But they will NEVER break us.

Gentlemen! My brethren! We fight this war for GLORY! For PRETTINESS! For BACKPIECES! SO RAISE YOUR KITS UP HIGH! LET THE FLAMETHROWERS LIGHT THE PATH TO OUR HOBOSACK-LESS FUTURE! FOR WE CAN ONLY KEEP UP THE GOOD FIGHT, BOMB-KIT OUR WAYS TO FREEDOM!

And soon… it shall be the hobosacks that shall smell the Ashes.

You have my wrench.

And mine! :O Please ANet – “hell, it’s about time!”

Kande.1930:

Sold Out.7625:

-snip-

You have my wrench.

And my elixir gun

TLDR: Anet, you put so much effort into new skins. When will you give some of that love to the Engie class? We badly need the upgrade.

Maining an engineer has been amazingly effective at keeping me from bothering with skins, or pursuing an elite weapon – all because of the hobo sack look. Only the aetherblade skin has tempted me as possibly fitting for the Engie aesthetic, but the inability to dye kits killed that idea.

I wonder sometimes how much the hobo aesthetic of GW2 engies affects their adoption by players.

Still, it’s great to see this thread continuing to feature at the top of the Engie forum. Overall, Anet have done good things for the class (still miss the old Kit Refinement trait – Why they didn’t just tweak it and promote it to master or grand master trait?). Now, if they would just divert some of the effort they put into new skins into giving the Engineer class some skin love…

Ameno.6813:

I dont think I saw a backpack on that Hammer Engi in the expansion trailer.

I think the hammer isn’t a kit but a regular weapon to equip.

bump and post number 1337.
yay

Sold Out.7625:

Quickly making sure this does not slip to page two.

And do not fret yet, gentlemen. Anet may have disappointed in the past, but all good things can come in the future. And what better time to fix hobosacks than an expansion? Of course it would not get a separate announcement. Fixes aren’t features.

So let us watch, be ready, and prepare congratulatory whiskey bottles for our celebration, kept safe in backpacks full of them that look like they were made out of badly stitched rags.
______________________

For we.

Are.

The Engineers.
_______________________
The eternal fighters of the hobosack. Need we grenade them, bomb them, nuke them away, shrink them with alchemy or dissolve them. Let them -try- to envelop us. But they will NEVER break us.

Gentlemen! My brethren! We fight this war for GLORY! For PRETTINESS! For BACKPIECES! SO RAISE YOUR KITS UP HIGH! LET THE FLAMETHROWERS LIGHT THE PATH TO OUR HOBOSACK-LESS FUTURE! FOR WE CAN ONLY KEEP UP THE GOOD FIGHT, BOMB-KIT OUR WAYS TO FREEDOM!

And soon… it shall be the hobosacks that shall smell the Ashes.

and my flamethrower !

Tonight, WE DINE OVER BURNING HOBOSACKS!

One does not simply disable hobo-sacks.

I would love to see some comments from anet employees regarding this matter.
Are they considering something different to the current appearance and mechanic? Will this issue, requested in a big scale, addressed?
Having really any comment on the current state would be very appreciated.

Assassin.7890:

I would love to see some comments from anet employees regarding this matter.
Are they considering something different to the current appearance and mechanic? Will this issue, requested in a big scale, addressed?
Having really any comment on the current state would be very appreciated.

Don’t know if you have read them already, but there are a couple responses on page 25.

Basically, they do want to fix it, but no one actually is.

Most people don’t know but the second expansion after heart of thorns will include hobo specialisation for the engineer… :p

Nikola Tesla.2047:

Most people don’t know but the second expansion after heart of thorns will include hobo specialisation for the engineer… :p

Yep!

It’s going to use a staff as a melee weapon. Its attacks:

1: Three-hit combo. 5 targets for each hit.
First hit; “Beg”, will have the Engineer on their knees to bang the staff directly in front of them, knocking targets down for 1 second.
Second hit; “Plead”, will slash at targets in a frontal cone and inflict Cripple for 3 seconds.
Third hit; “Thank”, will be a single-targeted stab, pushing back 50.

2: “Waylay”, a 500 range attack where the Hobo-Engineer will throw their staff to a target, immobilising for 2 seconds.

3: “Pester”, a melee attack allowing the Hobo-Engineer to annoy somebody by inflicting Four stacks of Confuse with a random boon being removed.

4: “Apologise”, will allow the Hobo-Engineer to rapidly spin their staff around them, blocking for five seconds and Dazing attackers for half a second while inflicting 2 stacks of Confusion each time the attacker is blocked.

5: “Vagrant’s Haste”, will give the Engineer Quickness for 8 seconds and disable all offensive abilities. Launches forward 250.

This is legit!

Today in the gemshop, customize your backpack, As if to annoy engi’s even more

It is odd for the amount of time and money aesthetics get in this game, these fashion atrocities would still be a thing after several years past release.

Make posts about this on the heart of thorns subforum. If they delete them or close them at least it would mean they read the title.

Engineers and engineer prospects feel this is an issue that has been clearly recognized for years, and the fact that it hasn’t been addressed is really sad.

We feel that with this release you should also roll out an option for our neglected looks.

Here are a few solutions below:
*Create a bomb, a grenade, and a medkit “weapon” held in hand
*If back item is equipped and box set to “show backitem”: always show back item (override hobo sack)
*Allow people to go backpack less, or even if it is a back item without skin, so people can go with nothing on their back
*If back item is equipped and box set to NOT “show backitem”: show hobo sack
*On standard player models (competitive PvP): show hobo sack

Please fix this for the engineer class.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/hot/Suggestion-Fix-Hobosacks-in-the-HoT-release

Support, please.

They should have been removed 2 years ago.

So I’ve been gone from the game for maybe a year. WvW still the same….Still looking at the ugly hobo sacks….kitten ><