Bunker trait with paper armor, why the heck would you do this? You end up with neither damage nor real survivability. This build in itself is a dead end. Even in open PvE it wouldn’t work that well.
No core profession should be balanced around an optional elite specialization.
As a dragon rank guardian who has played PvP since beta… I run a very similar build myself. And i also ask the same question.
Everyone who see’s that I am not a n00b trap guardian think I am bad… until I wreck them 3/0 in a duel. some of my friends won’t even do competitive unless I am with them… and they all laughed at me when I showed them my build, one of them even rage quitted the guild because he couldn’t beat me.
People don’t seem to realize it is the skills, dodges and blocks that make a guard tanky… not the armor.
It’s not that it’s terrible per say… it’s just that a power DH w/ LB will runs circles around it. You simply wont out perform a LB dh and i’d love to duel that specific build with my dh build.
It’s not on meta battle because there’s no reason for it to be.. unless there’s a non-HoT section on that site or something.
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It’s not that it’s terrible per say… it’s just that a power DH w/ LB will runs circles around it. You simply wont out perform a LB dh and i’d love to duel that specific build with my dh build.
It’s not on meta battle because there’s no reason for it to be.. unless there’s a non-HoT section on that site or something.
stop lying to the dude
it IS flat out terrible
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It’s not that it’s terrible per say… it’s just that a power DH w/ LB will runs circles around it. You simply wont out perform a LB dh and i’d love to duel that specific build with my dh build.
It’s not on meta battle because there’s no reason for it to be.. unless there’s a non-HoT section on that site or something.
stop lying to the dude
it IS flat out terrible
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I can see what he’s shooting for with this. Using Force of Will together with Wurm Runes to increase Vitality and Ferocity at the same time, synergizing it with Marauder Amulet.
Theoretically, 2050 Power, 54% (74% with Fury) crit chance, 21k HP and 203% Crit Damage is all good. You’ll be able to take a few hits and Spike for some nasty damage if you hit home with Whirling Wrath.
In a bulletin format, allow me to compare this build to other similar ones:
You lack access to Chill, Cripple or Immobilize to slow down enemies and prevent them from disengaging or kiting you. Power Rev does not but can spam Chill with Precision Strike, which is part of the reason why they don’t need a ranged weapon on their kit.
You lack reliable in-combat Mobility, which is the determining factor when it comes to dictating who commands the flow of a fight. Power Rev will catch up to you anywhere as long as they’re in Shiro and you’re not a Thief, a Mesmer with a portal or invisible.
Unlike Warrior, you lack the CC means to Negate your opponent’s mobility. You have a single Knockback on your Shield… which isn’t helping at all because you’d be knocking them out of your effective range anyways. Binding Blade might seem useful, but it’s a low-range, slow-moving projectile followed by a well-telegraphed one-time pull, easily dodged.
At the same time, you have low access to Stability (Which also costs you your Virtue of Courage) and only 1 Panic Button in your Elite Skill. Your main source of sustain comes in the form of self-healing and Aegis, which matters absolute jack to Warrior or Revenant who will blaze right through you with Unblockable attacks and CC you to death.
You’re very vulnerable to Kiting and Poison, so fighting Reapers won’t be easy unless you get the drop on them while they’re asleep at the keyboard. Your few and precious Condi Removals will be going to cleansing Poison and Chill, only to be met with more Poison, Chill and a ton of Bleeding on top of that. You’ll have a real hard time catching even a Reaper in a straight-up fight, which is actually quite a feat in and of itself, considering Reapers are just marginally more mobile than the Arctic iceflow.
Now, there are a few modifications you could do to help the build out, primarily making sure to have some CC added in along with a ranged weapon. If you don’t have HoT and access to DH, that means you’re kinda stuck with Scepter which doesn’t have awful synergy (Symbol of Punishment -> Chains of Light -> Judge’s Intervention -> Whirling Wrath) but it’s still not LB. Rune of Surging will probably serve you better than Rune of the Wurm, since you’ll get kitten Shocking Aura with every other Renewed Focus.
I can see what he’s shooting for with this. Using Force of Will together with Wurm Runes to increase Vitality and Ferocity at the same time, synergizing it with Marauder Amulet.
Theoretically, 2050 Power, 54% (74% with Fury) crit chance, 21k HP and 203% Crit Damage is all good. You’ll be able to take a few hits and Spike for some nasty damage if you hit home with Whirling Wrath.
In a bulletin format, allow me to compare this build to other similar ones:
You lack access to Chill, Cripple or Immobilize to slow down enemies and prevent them from disengaging or kiting you. Power Rev does not but can spam Chill with Precision Strike, which is part of the reason why they don’t need a ranged weapon on their kit.
You lack reliable in-combat Mobility, which is the determining factor when it comes to dictating who commands the flow of a fight. Power Rev will catch up to you anywhere as long as they’re in Shiro and you’re not a Thief, a Mesmer with a portal or invisible.
Unlike Warrior, you lack the CC means to Negate your opponent’s mobility. You have a single Knockback on your Shield… which isn’t helping at all because you’d be knocking them out of your effective range anyways. Binding Blade might seem useful, but it’s a low-range, slow-moving projectile followed by a well-telegraphed one-time pull, easily dodged.
At the same time, you have low access to Stability (Which also costs you your Virtue of Courage) and only 1 Panic Button in your Elite Skill. Your main source of sustain comes in the form of self-healing and Aegis, which matters absolute jack to Warrior or Revenant who will blaze right through you with Unblockable attacks and CC you to death.
You’re very vulnerable to Kiting and Poison, so fighting Reapers won’t be easy unless you get the drop on them while they’re asleep at the keyboard. Your few and precious Condi Removals will be going to cleansing Poison and Chill, only to be met with more Poison, Chill and a ton of Bleeding on top of that. You’ll have a real hard time catching even a Reaper in a straight-up fight, which is actually quite a feat in and of itself, considering Reapers are just marginally more mobile than the Arctic iceflow.
Now, there are a few modifications you could do to help the build out, primarily making sure to have some CC added in along with a ranged weapon. If you don’t have HoT and access to DH, that means you’re kinda stuck with Scepter which doesn’t have awful synergy (Symbol of Punishment -> Chains of Light -> Judge’s Intervention -> Whirling Wrath) but it’s still not LB. Rune of Surging will probably serve you better than Rune of the Wurm, since you’ll get kitten Shocking Aura with every other Renewed Focus.
Excellent assessment. I’ve tried it so many times before; double melee weapon sets on guardian just doesn’t work very well; even when running DH (which has great mobility, access to soft CCs and an excellent pull).
These points aside, in pvp at least, greatsword and mace don’t work very well either. Greatsword has insufficient sustain, too high of cooldowns and too low of damage output if you don’t land the majority of GS 2. Mace has mace 3 which is great and doesn’t have a whole lot of counterplay, but it’s on a 15s cd. Mace auto chain is nearly useless in pvp and mace 2 has too long of a cast time and an almost useless boon attached to it.
