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Still, I consider the full situation a potential problem which may limit the growth of otherwise deserving communities. The other problem being that the megaservers may limit intraserver communication if you may want to encourage people that pve only to try out WvW.
I felt this needed a change of terminology. It’s not a POTENTIAL problem that MAY limit growth. It’s a MASSIVE problem that DOES limit to the extent it STOPS almost all growth of a server. I am on SoS and as has been stated, we’ve lost a number of our WvW focused guilds of late, which has severely hurt our community due to our lower WvW focused population compared to the servers we are matched against. The server as a whole would like to stay competitive in WvW, but the inane population calculation system that is in place is pretty much preventing us from getting anyone on to the server to WvW with us. We can’t even replace what we’ve lost because even with people leaving, the server only remains open for short periods of time sporatically throughout the day. Megaservers removes almost all ability to rally people from any non-WvW maps. I doubt people outside of the WvW regulars even have a clue as to what their home server is at this point in the game.
For a game that wants to promote community and actively pushes people to play together, it’s done a fantastic job of doing a lot of harm to the SoS community. A community people have put a lot of time and effort into making a warm and welcoming place to people only to watch it suffer at the hands of something completely outside of their control. We aren’t the first community to suffer in this fashion, but maybe we can be the last to be torn apart by such a problem.
Anet,
While I applaud the effort to solve the drastic population imbalance between servers/tiers, I have to say you missed the mark here. The server linking has done nothing to solve the drastic population imbalances between servers in NA. I can’t speak for EU servers, but having read some of the posts here it seems to be a similar issue. While I love the people on the server that we are linked with and welcome the ability to make some new friends, we are still facing server that outnumber us (even linked) most times of the day. The population imbalance may be condensed, but it still very much exists. This is in part due to some servers having been stacked with a lot more inactive accounts of players now returning to the game as well as people transferring to the linked servers when they can’t join the host. Tiers/servers are still stacking and the population is still shifting to the top servers for the most part. Meanwhile other servers (my own included) are seeing a slower return of players as well as still losing players to disinterest or being driven away by the blob mentality that seems to run WvW these days. I myself have been suffering extreme lag and game crashes due to the blobs that run the maps of late. This system needs to be reworked and approached differently, because linking hasn’t solved the issue.
EDIT: That said, I am still very seriously considering things like Chak Eggs, Blood Rubies, and Petrified Wood.
Just a thought….but couldn’t these in fact be considered currencies and be added to the wallet instead?
I wanted to say thanks for being such great partners in crime with SoS. It probably wasn’t always the easiest road, but you all stuck with us and I can’t ask for a better server to be paired with. Whatever happens at reset, I wish GoM all the best in the future, wherever the road leads you all. See you on the battlefield!
Or SoS…or SBI. All are looking for people I’m sure and are good choice. Actually, if you want to stay in T3 and are looking for fights…SoS or SBI are the better choices.
Our OCX isn’t as strong as it used to be. Yes, we still have people during that timezone just like any server has people on at various times. It’s not the powerhouse it used to be. I know we have smaller guilds that run during that time zone but gone (for now at least) are the days of TS/BEAR/TF.
You say that like they aren’t already beating SoS and SBI. Have you not looked at the score yet? Mag’s just boohooing because they’ve stacked their NA with fight guilds and have nothing to fight. Funny how a problem that already existed before just got amplified when you add more. SoS hasn’t had a strong NA ever since T2 became such a cesspool back when YB was pushing to T1 and everyone transferred to get away from the tier. Not sure why this is suddenly a news flash to people. That’s ok, from what I hear those score changes are in our near future and that stacking may actually pay off and someone else can drop to T3 to cry about the same issues.
Population balance will never be attainable as long as the goal is a moving target. As long as population moves to undo whatever semblance of balance a linking may initially give, it will immediately be shifted by people moving/no longer logging in. We had that problem. We were linked based on a population calculation that was immediately outdated as guilds moved off as soon as the servers were relinked. So our population was immediately lower than expected while another server’s population was immediately higher. This system is destined to fail because of this. Population balance, as WvW stands right now, in simply an unattainable dream. And then there’s the glicko issue, which is no longer a viable ranking system because server movement through the ranks is too slow and communities suffer for extended periods of time in match ups that are miserable, exacerbating the population shift that much more.
Did someone just accuse SoS of massive overkill blobs? lol…you know we throw parties if we manage to get more then like 25 on tag because it like NEVER happens. Our ’massive overkill blobs" are typically 20-25 most days. Unless you mean the servers we are fighting with their blobs…then yeah they have some ridiculous bobs.
Unless you mean our OCX…..but we’ve never denied our OCX is our strongest time zone.
O.0.. so 40 to 60 running all together to kill maybe 4 people is not a over kill blob? that’s about normal these days for them heck even herd some say they are sick of it themselves and are leaving cause they cant get any decent fights in…again if that’s what floats some boats I guess its great..Safety in numbers I guess LOL…
The only time we have those kinds of numbers is OCX. One time zone. Once again no one is denying our OCX is our strongest time zone. The rest of the day we don’t pull near those numbers. If you want to define an entire server by one time zone then that’s your decision. The original poster is asking about NA time where we queue one, maybe 2 maps if we try really hard. Open raid tag generally has about 20 people following him with others on the map running havoc/guild raids, unless we have to group up in response to a push from an opposing map queue (or 2).
We were popping outnumbered on our own BL a few times last night while EBG was calling for some help due to being pushed by large groups. Guess our non-existent massive overkill blob was off in PvE doing the champ train.
Good! That big brawl at the end was the best time. I saw one part where one of my guys was just like “I’m YOLOing in! Screw it!” and I had to follow him in lol.
Yup, I was on SoS as well and glad that I moved off. The bad thing is their leadership or ‘council’ has their heads so far up their kittens, they think they’re a lot better than they are.
Which council may I ask are you talking about? Since it’s just gone through a reelection and possibly a second one since you’ve transferred off. Do you mean the 5 people that just stepped up to try a few weeks ago? Or perhaps the council before that which was plagued by a number of issues both RL and in game. Or perhaps the one before that which was mainly one guy telling everyone everything was ok when everyone was aware that it wasn’t?
I can assure you the “council” that you take such great joys in badmouthing is very much aware of the state of the server, is handcuffed in ways because of our constant locked status which is very much doing us no favors as well as many of the issues mentioned above. You can’t MAKE people play the game the way you deem it should be played. You can ask, beg, plead, hint, hint strongly, prod, etc, but you cannot FORCE people to run builds they should, stick on tag, use TS, etc. There’s no way to punish those players and the only repercussions aren’t something they care about really, or they would’ve already changed. The veterans on SoS that know what the game could be are trying, but until people start meeting us halfway on some of this stuff, there’s not a whole heck of a lot we can do except keep trying. Yeah, things aren’t great at the moment. I won’t say they are. But the state of the game as a whole isn’t great and not all of the changes that people love so much have worked out the same for all servers. Many of the same population problems and trends exist now, just a smaller tier pool for it to effect.
SoS sends our condolences on your loss! Never easy losing a friend, especially people you’ve gotten to know over time and spent so much time together, even if you never met face to face. I’ll send my thoughts during the times for this event although I will not attend (I feel lost when not on SoS BL). Fair winds Karril and calm seas ahead….
All the host servers were manually set full, in my opinion to force people to transfer to the linked server. But yes, it has hindered and hurt the host servers that do actually need to recruit. Recruiting right now is darn near impossible with no promise of the linkings being permanent and with people being allowed to stack to the t1 linked servers. It seems they are really the only servers getting the transfers at the moment. So nothing’s really changed, it’s just there are fewer tiers to lose population to T1 now.
I just want to post a thank you to the server of SoS. I came into the season a PvE’er acheivement hunter with an uplevel warrior just looking to finish the acheivements and run back to my hidey hole. Thanks to the players and commanders on the server, I’ve come out of the season a WvW addict with a huge desire to learn, improve and be able to come out of more then just a couple of outmanned fights alive and surrounded by bagged shinies. So thank you for putting up with this noob and answering my ever so stupid, basic questions. It’s been a fun season for me and I look forward to seeing you all on the map in the future!
I have posted the reddit link on our forums so those on SoS can know the story of the player you all are honoring and remembering tonight. I hope players from my server will be respectful towards you all while you honor your friend and server mate tonight.
I hope you all didn’t mind my bringing my crew over for some fun fights on TC BL during your event. I usually don’t leave SoS BL but I was tagged and looking for something to do. I knew you all would be cruising your BL and thought maybe you’d enjoy some good fights while remembering your server mate. No disrespect meant and I know my guys enjoyed the fights! I hope you all did as well! (I’ll point Theo to this thread as well – Spiderman dude- I know he enjoyed the event as well!)
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Outnumbered in one timezone does not warrant opening a server as over populated as BG, sorry. Many servers below you wish they had an iota of the population that has crammed into BG over the years. Population is determined server wide, not based on timezone. I’m sorry your guild is split, but you joined the most populated server in the game and it was a risk you took in the process. BG does not need to and should not open until people move off.