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This can’t be fun for Maguuma
Oh, don’t worry. Maguuma had plenty of fun wiping you guys tonight.
A for effort, though – BG has been avoiding fighting us for months.
Says the server that just ran from BG. Must be fun to make up your own version of reality. These guys started losing again had a tantrum and took their ball and went home so they could farm lower servers, just sad.
Maguuma take break because BG hide. Not fun when server won’t play. But when Maguuma take break, BG come back and fight, then say they good.
Maguuma overstacked and gets to be matched with BG. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes and all that. Now that you’ve tanked and bamboozled Anet into lowering your glicko, you’ll just steamroll t2 and t3 for a month and end up matched with BG again. Congrats I guess?
When Maguuma is in tier 1 again, BG will run and hide, and cycle continues.
When Maguuma is in tier 1 again BG will continue to dominate like always causing lesser servers to tank thier rating and make excuses on the forums.
I think you use word dominate wrong. When Maguuma is #1, BG cry and hide. BG was dominated, like in 50 Shade movie.
Haha this dude actually watched the 50 shade movie, guess we know what Mag was doing during their “break”.
This can’t be fun for Maguuma
Oh, don’t worry. Maguuma had plenty of fun wiping you guys tonight.
A for effort, though – BG has been avoiding fighting us for months.
Says the server that just ran from BG. Must be fun to make up your own version of reality. These guys started losing again had a tantrum and took their ball and went home so they could farm lower servers, just sad.
Maguuma take break because BG hide. Not fun when server won’t play. But when Maguuma take break, BG come back and fight, then say they good.
Maguuma overstacked and gets to be matched with BG. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes and all that. Now that you’ve tanked and bamboozled Anet into lowering your glicko, you’ll just steamroll t2 and t3 for a month and end up matched with BG again. Congrats I guess?
When Maguuma is in tier 1 again, BG will run and hide, and cycle continues.
When Maguuma is in tier 1 again BG will continue to dominate like always causing lesser servers to tank thier rating and make excuses on the forums.
This can’t be fun for Maguuma
Oh, don’t worry. Maguuma had plenty of fun wiping you guys tonight.
A for effort, though – BG has been avoiding fighting us for months.
Says the server that just ran from BG. Must be fun to make up your own version of reality. These guys started losing again had a tantrum and took their ball and went home so they could farm lower servers, just sad.
Maguuma take break because BG hide. Not fun when server won’t play. But when Maguuma take break, BG come back and fight, then say they good.
Mag apologists are the best. Have fun farming servers with double the numbers that’s all you have ever wanted.
Why did they remove 100 points from Maguuma? That dropped us to tier 3. I’m not math doctor, so I think it’s unfair to force us into low Gecko rating because we take a break from WvW.
It is because Maguuma couldn’t hang in T1 and stopped playing as they were getting farmed.
This can’t be fun for Maguuma
Oh, don’t worry. Maguuma had plenty of fun wiping you guys tonight.
A for effort, though – BG has been avoiding fighting us for months.
Says the server that just ran from BG. Must be fun to make up your own version of reality. These guys started losing again had a tantrum and took their ball and went home so they could farm lower servers, just sad.
Mag Apologists hard at work today. Talk big and run faster -The fights server lol.
And what is the mighty beast gates excuse for the hyper low activity for the months where Mag was winning T1? I wonder what could have caused that….. surely not BG hibernating to not fight Mag, that would be absurd right? T1 has had less then 1/3rd of the total kills/deaths of every tier for months and it’s real boring playing in it, idk why people try so hard to deny it.
It’s really interesting how they suddenly stopped “finding fights” as soon as they started losing. And I am from FA but thank you for letting us all know where the bad BG touched you.
Such an amazing fighting server they are currently hiding from all fights. It’s okay we all knew Mag couldn’t hang in T1 this was inevitable, have fun being farmed for months till you fall back down where you belong again.
To be fair T1 has been the bottom of server activity for 5 months now….. Maguumas community really got sick of being stuck in a tier with a third of the total kills of even T4, no sane player would want to play in a tier with rock bottom activity when T2-T3 are high activity.
Mag Apologists hard at work today. Talk big and run faster -The fights server lol.
Declaring yourself the only objective opinion while posting on an alt account, so impressive. Scared of posting on internet forums trying to act tough, pure gold.
Haha knew this exact response was coming. I’m trying to act tough? Merely stated my observations from playing on bg. Being able to critique your own server’s bad habits is pretty much the purest example of being objective lol. Nice try shifting the conversation away starting with a total fabrication – “I die repeatedly to up lvl rangers” – haha I did get a chuckle from that – to making personal attacks – and I’m the one trying to act tough lmao :}
Attacks an entire guild, then cries and plays the victim card. Grow a backbone or don’t post on public forums. Pathetic. Also please stop using the word objective you clearly are confused on it’s meaning.
no need to feel ashame that your guild wipe to mag pugs. mag is the best fighting server bar none. period.
Such an amazing fighting server they are currently hiding from all fights. It’s okay we all knew Mag couldn’t hang in T1 this was inevitable, have fun being farmed for months till you fall back down where you belong again.
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Declaring yourself the only objective opinion while posting on an alt account, so impressive. Scared of posting on internet forums trying to act tough, pure gold.
Haha knew this exact response was coming. I’m trying to act tough? Merely stated my observations from playing on bg. Being able to critique your own server’s bad habits is pretty much the purest example of being objective lol. Nice try shifting the conversation away starting with a total fabrication – “I die repeatedly to up lvl rangers” – haha I did get a chuckle from that – to making personal attacks – and I’m the one trying to act tough lmao :}
Attacks an entire guild, then cries and plays the victim card. Grow a backbone or don’t post on public forums. Pathetic. Also please stop using the word objective you clearly are confused on it’s meaning.
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I’m on bg so can only comment on it. The guilds on this server are generally terrible, especially guilds like knt etc. I’ve seen a knt guild raid get wiped multiple times by mag militia lmao. Only decent guild is like GoF but I believe they have quit, at least their driver. Bg mainly just has the numbers and coverage and the hardcore ppt people. The only time guilds like knt win are if they have qq there as pin snipers or something similar. The environment can be quite toxic too.
Don’t listen to this guy I am on BG and have seen this guy wipe to an upleveled ranger multiple times. He is really terrible lmao.
You’ve seen me on this account which has no ap and that I only use for log in rewards? Lol, nice try. The truth (which everyone knows) hurts I bet. I’m just one of those objective people who can see it from the inside.
Declaring yourself the only objective opinion while posting on an alt account, so impressive. Scared of posting on internet forums trying to act tough, pure gold.
I’m on bg so can only comment on it. The guilds on this server are generally terrible, especially guilds like knt etc. I’ve seen a knt guild raid get wiped multiple times by mag militia lmao. Only decent guild is like GoF but I believe they have quit, at least their driver. Bg mainly just has the numbers and coverage and the hardcore ppt people. The only time guilds like knt win are if they have qq there as pin snipers or something similar. The environment can be quite toxic too.
Don’t listen to this guy I am on BG and have seen this guy wipe to an upleveled ranger multiple times. He is really terrible lmao.
Watching SEAL play is just painful. Wish these bandwagon kids would go away.
30 wins no losses. from instant sapphire to diamond (just today so i didnt even get any players of my MMR in my side because they are already higher). did it 100% with my least played classes too. just by that experience i can tell u that its not the MMR thats keeping people back, they are most likely where they deserve to be at…
I love this post..
“I have absolutely no experience with the problem. Therefor I have the most authoritative view on the issue.”
XD
Anecdotal evidence, and well the basic underlying ideas of the scientific process are way too much for the average PVP forum poster to grasp.
You know, people charge for carrying. If she wants a carry, what is she willing to offer in return? I’m not a charity.
I typically admire the stoic types more, I’m more willing to help those who help themselves. I might be more sympathetic if she didn’t already have a reputation of being abusive towards her own teammates and enemies.
Which is apparently ok, because she’s disabled. So she gets a free pass when she’s rude, but other people aren’t allowed to be rude back.
The h? really charge? WOW. as if you guys are really THAT GOOD?
dude, are you disabled? If not, its best to understand why she is rude or anything. You will never understand that if you are or were never disabled in your life.
Coming from the health field here, you have no idea why people with illnesses act rude or whatever. It is hard to be in their shoes.
So you people without disabilities should be the bigger persons here. Is that really hard to do?
Also, don’t be ableist and assume everyone you meet over the internet is neurotypical for start. People who are differently-abled shouldn’t be held to lesser societal standards than anyone else.
We are not holding them to different social standards, Ithilwen posted her opinions on the MMR system, that is all. People didn’t agree with her so decided that her posts made them insecure and felt the need to make comments about how bad she is in posts she is not even posting in, and therefore has no avenue to defend. This is just vicious and sad, the fact you condone it and try and make profit off it is just sad.
The problem is quite the opposite.
Sure thing, have fun with the victim card.
You wanted them to be substantially different. I asked what is not different about them. You say you have an issue with the way you have to wait for the events to spawn. Which is always going to be the case if you’re going to specific events.
I know you’re not comparing, but I definitely am, because it clarifies what exactly is the issue.
Maybe you should be more constructive with your feedback rather than attack people because you can’t look at the bigger picture.
I don’t really see any attack here, seems you are being a bit overly sensitive and more than a bit obtuse.
lol Wut?
You can just hide and completely ignore your chat box if you like?
Be like this guy and block players that kill you 1v2 as a thief without HoT, all the while claiming that the necros that were nowhere near the fight carried you. Romericus saltiest of the salty.
Yes, if we could only stop people from playing this game to “have fun” all our problems would go away.
Go to work if you wanna have fun! Leave gaming for the serious folks!
You missed my point entirely.
There are people who only want their wins.
There are people who just want to “have fun and goof off”.Their goals are different. Pairing them together is a recipe for disaster. In the end people will get at each other’s throats and nothing good will come of it.
Is it so hard to understand?
I got your point exactly right. And it’s not hard to understand your point is completely false. Really? You think there is only two kinds of players? Since when has having fun and trying to win been mutually exclusive?
Maybe you could expand your thought a little and consider there are people who just want to have fun and win?
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I think what he is getting at is the lame duck argument “I paid the same amount for the game I will play however I want!”. Guess what everyone in the movie theatre paid the same amount for a ticket to watch the movie as well, this doesn’t mean I can watch the movie how I want and be disruptive to others there. The other 9 players in the game are real people using their real time so why isn’t there a basic social contract here as well to at least understand basics of the maps/class before jumping into ranked games.
Here is a real world experiment to try. Go to your local basketball court, join a game with random players there. Once the game begins ask for the ball then proceed to dropkick the ball out of the court. If people get upset remind them you are just playing the game the way you want and that you paid the same taxes as they do. Who cares if you ruin the game for 9 others, you are a fierce individual and you do what you want ROAR!
I can only imagine what season 4 is going to look like. I got my wings and stopped queueing the frustration level is just too high. I can’t say it felt like I really achieved anything, more like something that I had to endure.
Definitely do not play your thief, yikes you need some work there.
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I’ve had no issues.
Seriously every post of this nature has to have an insecure kid come to post his W/L record. Did you get the attention you desperately need?
There is a poll active currently, regretfully you are in the minority. Perhaps you don’t speak for the entire WvW community as you seem to think you do. Only PVE players would make a post like this, see I can make baseless statements too! You realize you only get the poll if you level up in WvW right?
I remember back in the early Everquest days we were going for world first Lady Vox kill and Aradune showed up and took a couple swings at Vox. So many people flipped out about it, poor dev just wanted to play his own game.
If anything they should go and play on YB, but they would probably get called out for being spies.
Been getting this as well duo queue ambers are getting put in sapphire matches. Really frustrating for both sides I would assume.
I also do not like the supply depot as it currently stands. It is a huge new player trap early game and having one or more teammates go there at the start can cost the match early. Not sure what the solution is maybe making players drop one supply if they are not behind enemy lines and 2 when behind regardless of what they are carrying? That way at least killing players early would have more of an impact.
As far as mist champions go it certainly does seem the bigger value in getting the summon is just the straight 20 point tick rather than any big effect on the battlefield. It is hard to balance with aurashare out there as making them too much tougher could make them extremely hard to stop.
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Question: Why are you playing this game if WoW is more enjoyable?
Anyone who has played WoW knows their pvp is braindead and pricey, so long as the tittle of this thread doesnt change, you are full of it.
False dichotomy much? It’s crazy but maybe he likes other aspects of this game better just not the pvp? Really try and think before posting.
i believe this is the pvp section, i could careless if the OP like Pve or WvW better than spvp. His points might or might not be valid, but the title should be changed if the OP want hardcore MMO player to take him seriously.
So what if it’s the pvp section doesn’t make your statement any less ignorant. And not sure why you think you get to speak for all “hardcore MMO players” but you certainly don’t speak for me. If you can’t handle this discussion don’t click on the title that simple really.
So, you think WoW pvp is better than ours (S3)?
You really have a strange habit of just reading what you want to see. Not once have I said that, please try and follow the discussion rather than trying your best to demonize others. You make baseless accusations with nothing to back it. Your first post was basically you telling him his opinion is wrong, you realize how illogical that is?
I agree, However, if the OP want us to take him serious, don’t you think the title is apocryphal?
Actually, you are right … i’ll refrain from posting until the OP change his title..
Have fun,
Not at all, he has the numbers on his side you realize we are the minority comparatively? Doesn’t make his opinion any less valid other than to those with extremely thin skin apparently. If that’s all it takes to get you not to post than yes I agree perhaps forums are not the medium you are looking for.
Question: Why are you playing this game if WoW is more enjoyable?
Anyone who has played WoW knows their pvp is braindead and pricey, so long as the tittle of this thread doesnt change, you are full of it.
False dichotomy much? It’s crazy but maybe he likes other aspects of this game better just not the pvp? Really try and think before posting.
i believe this is the pvp section, i could careless if the OP like Pve or WvW better than spvp. His points might or might not be valid, but the title should be changed if the OP want hardcore MMO player to take him seriously.
So what if it’s the pvp section doesn’t make your statement any less ignorant. And not sure why you think you get to speak for all “hardcore MMO players” but you certainly don’t speak for me. If you can’t handle this discussion don’t click on the title that simple really.
So, you think WoW pvp is better than ours (S3)?
You really have a strange habit of just reading what you want to see. Not once have I said that, please try and follow the discussion rather than trying your best to demonize others. You make baseless accusations with nothing to back it. Your first post was basically you telling him his opinion is wrong, you realize how illogical that is?
I like GW2 pvp better mechanically I just can’t take it seriously without a solo queue. Haven’t played WoW pvp recent enough to make any judgements balance wise but matchmaking I vastly prefer what WoW has to offer over the 3 seasons we have had so far.
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Question: Why are you playing this game if WoW is more enjoyable?
Anyone who has played WoW knows their pvp is braindead and pricey, so long as the tittle of this thread doesnt change, you are full of it.
False dichotomy much? It’s crazy but maybe he likes other aspects of this game better just not the pvp? Really try and think before posting.
i believe this is the pvp section, i could careless if the OP like Pve or WvW better than spvp. His points might or might not be valid, but the title should be changed if the OP want hardcore MMO player to take him seriously.
So what if it’s the pvp section doesn’t make your statement any less ignorant. And not sure why you think you get to speak for all “hardcore MMO players” but you certainly don’t speak for me. If you can’t handle this discussion don’t click on the title that simple really.
Question: Why are you playing this game if WoW is more enjoyable?
Anyone who has played WoW knows their pvp is braindead and pricey, so long as the tittle of this thread doesnt change, you are full of it.
False dichotomy much? It’s crazy but maybe he likes other aspects of this game better just not the pvp? Really try and think before posting.
You really just repeat the same bad arguments over and over. Once again you are the one making a claim the burden of proof is on you and your “numerous” other supporters not me. Really grasping at straws at this point.
You don’t have the tools or the data to back up any of the claims you are making. The people that do have these tools and data took the time to look into it for you and found no issue. Yet you are so arrogant that you still cannot accept this and would rather rely on anecdotal evidence from a few random posters. Good luck in the real world, your standards of evidence are remarkably low.
Ok, you’ve got me curious here. What’s your endgame in all of this? Where do you see it going?
Do you expect us to say “ok, you’re right, the win/loss streaks we’ve seen must make sense somehow?” Well, obviously that isn’t happening any time soon, we have all been convinced by our experiences that something fishy is going on here.
you expect us to produce “proof” of some bug, which we cannot possibly have, and never claimed to have? Of course not.
So I’m not really sure what kind of response you can reasonably looking for here, aside from dragging out the conversation as long as possible. Can’t we all just agree that you will never be convinced of this, and that nobody care whether you are or not?
I am not pushing an agenda, unlike you. If you can’t handle people disagreeing with you and pointing out flawed arguments, perhaps stop posting?
Seems like it would be easy for you to walk away considering how little you care. =)
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“Apparent phenomenon” this really sums up what you are missing. I reject the premise that there is a phenomenon at all.
And that’s fine. A lot of us disagree with you on that. We apparently can’t convince you with our eye witness claims, and you can’t convince us with your “I don’t believe you”s, so we’re at a bit of an impasse. Luckily, however, there’s no reason whatsoever why we should convince you, so you can continue to remain unconvinced as much as you like.
You seem to be hellbent on self deluding yourself into thinking that some untraceable bug kept you down. Take a step back without emotion and tell me any of this craziness makes sense.
Occam’s razor, it makes more sense than the alternatives.
You really just repeat the same bad arguments over and over. Once again you are the one making a claim the burden of proof is on you and your “numerous” other supporters not me. Really grasping at straws at this point.
You don’t have the tools or the data to back up any of the claims you are making. The people that do have these tools and data took the time to look into it for you and found no issue. Yet you are so arrogant that you still cannot accept this and would rather rely on anecdotal evidence from a few random posters. Good luck in the real world, your standards of evidence are remarkably low.
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1. Someone had a bad run of luck got angry made an exaggerated post hoping to save face and blame it on the patch.
If it were one person reporting these sorts of streaks, I would totally agree with you in dismissing it, but numerous players are reporting similar streaks, including myself. It seems a bit much for simple coincidence or fabrication.
2. Developers put malicious code in that targets only a very small portion of the community making them lose excessively. Then when called out on the forums lie to their customer base to cover up this grand conspiracy.
Did anyone actually accuse them of this? I haven’t heard anyone do so, but if so I would completely disagree with that person.
I think the far more likely scenario is that their complex matchmaking system has some sort of unintended behavior in it, one of which they are not fully aware, that results in certain players, perhaps only in specific classes or under specific conditions (hence the complexity of it), ending up in matches where they are almost always paired with all or mostly substandard players (perhaps of their own skill level, perhaps not), and matched against teams of above average players, such that every match they enter have the odds stacked well against them and even coming close to victory is unlikely.
Because the system does not know that it’s doing this, it continues to do it repeatedly without throwing up any red flags that are immediately visible to the developers, so they cannot confirm that anything is wrong, it all looks fine from their switchboards.
It is not at all malicious on anyone’s part, it is just a flawed system that is intended to present matches of relatively even skill levels on both sides, and is instead spitting out massive mismatches consistently to certain players (or at the very least give a player an even balance of “easy” and “hard” match-ups), with the unintended result being that some players are reporting massively long and unusually lopsided win streaks, through no superhuman efforts on their own part, while others are reporting statistically unlikely losing streaks, which they believe they could play no personal role in preventing.
It is of course all circumstantial at this point, players reporting unusual win/loss streaks, and we do not have access to any data that could prove it one way or the other, but I do feel that this circumstantial evidence is enough to justify ANet taking a deeper look at what might be causing this apparent phenomenon.
“Apparent phenomenon” this really sums up what you are missing. I reject the premise that there is a phenomenon at all. You have presented nothing but anecdotal evidence. Even with a developer taking the time to look into this and find such issue (aka real evidence) you still make wild assumptions while proving nothing. You based the premise of your argument that it’s statistically impossible to lose 47 games straight, yet you don’t even know this base assumption to be true either.
You seem to be hellbent on self deluding yourself into thinking that some untraceable bug kept you down. Take a step back without emotion and tell me any of this craziness makes sense.
I really shouldn’t have to point out that I’m not making claims for which “evidence” are a factor. It’s basic common sense that in a game of 5-man teams, it is virtually impossible to have such long losting streaks due to either lack of individual skill or random chance. The existence of these losing strings is all the “evidence” needed, unless you doubt that these strings exist at all, in which case I don’t see how anyone could provide evidence. The entire discussion relies on trusting eye witness accounts, and if you refuse to do that then you have no constructive role to play in this discussion.
Ok one more attempt to get this through. Let’s try Occam’s Razor, since you mentioned “statistics” before, which of the following is more probable:
1. Someone had a bad run of luck got angry made an exaggerated post hoping to save face and blame it on the patch.
2. Developers put malicious code in that targets only a very small portion of the community making them lose excessively. Then when called out on the forums lie to their customer base to cover up this grand conspiracy.
It really doesn’t get any more simple than that. Keep calling anyone that doesn’t agree with you a troll though, bask in your ignorance, but please keep this lunacy to yourself unless you have any evidence.
Read that last part, your conclusions mean nothing devs already responded you are just making things up. And again you just keep making the same fallacious argument, I am not sure what else I can do but you are failing to grasp very basic concepts. Remain ignorant it is always a choice just not usually a good one, your call.
You add nothing, all you do is try to throw up chaff over the discussion being held. I honestly am not sure if you’re deliberately trolling or if you genuinely believe that you are benefiting the discussion in some way, but in either case there does not seem to be any benefit in what you have to say.
You have added nothing to the discussion other than wild assertions with zero evidence. Please show me where in this post your points have added any clarity to this already dead and answered issue. You are more concerned with ego than with truth, if it makes you sleep better at night to believe the cause of your less that stellar pvp performance is some malicious code, then have fun. Thinking you can come here and spread disinformation as fact is where you went wrong.
Once again you make wild assertions with no evidence, so I dismiss your assertions with the same lack of evidence. Can we at least get a new fallacious argument? At least you did mix in a little non sequitur there, even if you did manage to prove your assertion that there is no possible way for a player to lose that many games back to back, that in no way leads to it “having” to be programmed against his account. It’s not even an argument just ignorance.
It’s basic statistics. It’s a five-man game, it’s impossible for any one player to have such a negative impact on his team. Even just standing back at base, a four-man team can still win from time to time. A bad player will cause his team to lose more often than if he were good, but even the very worst player in the game would still find himself on teams that could win in spite of him occasionally, UNLESS the other four members of that team are too often underpowered relative to the composition of the other team.
If that doesn’t convince you, then I don’t really have any interest in convincing you, because at the end of the day, your conclusions on this matter do not matter to anyone.
Read that last part, your conclusions mean nothing devs already responded you are just making things up. And again you just keep making the same fallacious argument, I am not sure what else I can do but you are failing to grasp very basic concepts. Remain ignorant it is always a choice just not usually a good one, your call.
You honestly believe he lost 47 games in a row due to programming? Come on now.
To what else would you attribute it? Bad gameplay? It’s IMPOSSIBLE to play badly enough that you lose 47 games in a row. You could deliberately sabotage your own team at every opportunity and STILL get better ratios than that. They would need to turn freindly fire on for it to be possible for a player to lose 47 games in a row for his team.
The only possible explanation is that the programming assigned him to 47 outmatched teams in a row (or close to it). A bad player can nude win-loss ratios a bit, but basic statistical odds would indicate that a single bad player should still “win” about 15-20% of his matches just by the odds of having the rest of his team be capable of carrying him at least that often.
Once again you make wild assertions with no evidence, so I dismiss your assertions with the same lack of evidence. Can we at least get a new fallacious argument? At least you did mix in a little non sequitur there, even if you did manage to prove your assertion that there is no possible way for a player to lose that many games back to back, that in no way leads to it “having” to be programmed against his account. It’s not even an argument just ignorance.
So…what is your explanation for different players having different matchmaking results on different characters?
In first case, I was playing revenant on diamond and lost horribly. Have lost like 10-15 pips.
But when I search for the game on my ranger and THEN swap to my revenant….my games are suddenly WAY easier. Made it to legend almost in a day. (+30 pips)
And it didnt work with engineer, who have the same win/lose ratio as my ranger.
If I use engineer as starter….enemies just kitten me and my team. Consistently.
Null hypothesis. You are trying to shift the burden of proof. Next?
So u have no explanation for it and probably think that all players saying that are liars? Ok…Good for you, I guess.
You are really bad at this please put words in my mouth more. You are immune to reason and logic have fun in your fantasyland.
You honestly believe he lost 47 games in a row due to programming? Come on now.
To what else would you attribute it? Bad gameplay? It’s IMPOSSIBLE to play badly enough that you lose 47 games in a row. You could deliberately sabotage your own team at every opportunity and STILL get better ratios than that. They would need to turn freindly fire on for it to be possible for a player to lose 47 games in a row for his team.
The only possible explanation is that the programming assigned him to 47 outmatched teams in a row (or close to it). A bad player can nude win-loss ratios a bit, but basic statistical odds would indicate that a single bad player should still “win” about 15-20% of his matches just by the odds of having the rest of his team be capable of carrying him at least that often.
Once again you make wild assertions with no evidence, so I dismiss your assertions with the same lack of evidence. Can we at least get a new fallacious argument? At least you did mix in a little non sequitur there, even if you did manage to prove your assertion that there is no possible way for a player to lose that many games back to back, that in no way leads to it “having” to be programmed against his account. It’s not even an argument just ignorance.
So…what is your explanation for different players having different matchmaking results on different characters?
In first case, I was playing revenant on diamond and lost horribly. Have lost like 10-15 pips.
But when I search for the game on my ranger and THEN swap to my revenant….my games are suddenly WAY easier. Made it to legend almost in a day. (+30 pips)
And it didnt work with engineer, who have the same win/lose ratio as my ranger.
If I use engineer as starter….enemies just kitten me and my team. Consistently.
Null hypothesis. You are trying to shift the burden of proof. Next?
You honestly believe he lost 47 games in a row due to programming? Come on now.
To what else would you attribute it? Bad gameplay? It’s IMPOSSIBLE to play badly enough that you lose 47 games in a row. You could deliberately sabotage your own team at every opportunity and STILL get better ratios than that. They would need to turn freindly fire on for it to be possible for a player to lose 47 games in a row for his team.
The only possible explanation is that the programming assigned him to 47 outmatched teams in a row (or close to it). A bad player can nude win-loss ratios a bit, but basic statistical odds would indicate that a single bad player should still “win” about 15-20% of his matches just by the odds of having the rest of his team be capable of carrying him at least that often.
Once again you make wild assertions with no evidence, so I dismiss your assertions with the same lack of evidence. Can we at least get a new fallacious argument? At least you did mix in a little non sequitur there, even if you did manage to prove your assertion that there is no possible way for a player to lose that many games back to back, that in no way leads to it “having” to be programmed against his account. It’s not even an argument just ignorance.
I created a time travel device just to troll this guy, much like the developers putting in malicious code that makes him lose nonstop.
Guys come on now. No possible way it is a mistake on there end. Anet does not do mistakes.
You honestly believe he lost 47 games in a row due to programming? Come on now.
Why the original poster would want to bump this embarrassment of a thread is beyond me. Sad he actually gets a dev response and just chooses to ignore it, no wonder they don’t communicate with us more.
What is the purpose of this comment ?
What he meant is that its probs your own fault.
Just had the misfortune of playing with Constantin on Stronghold. He purposefully threw the game while insulting the team the entire time. So I can firmly say it is definitely user side and not server side, why ANet tolerates players like this is beyond me.
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This evening I had the choice of playing WvW or going to bingo with my grandma, I went to bingo it ran better than this kitten .
Dear Devs,
Thieves make me act like I have a big ole’ poop in my diaper, please help change me!
The only problem I am having with the new player experience is it doesn’t seem to tell me where to place my drool cup, or even something simple like how do I put on my helmet these straps are confusing!
JQ got RAWKED! BG is like Godzilla and JQ is Japan.
I know this is selfish and impossible to accomplish, but for me its way more important fighting for than ppt.
You’ve always had your own interests in mind Smokee, and as a result, it’s always had at least a little positive influence in balancing your time zone, as well as benefit Blackgate because it kept you playing. Dem was some dark days when you retired. Regarding ZDs, you’re right I think. Where else could they have gone? You’d think JQ at first, but the back-to-back-to-back of MERC —> ATM --> ZDs (not discounting other guilds/players in those time zones by the way .. just trying to keep it simple) would have probably been a bit ridiculous. SoR? ZDs —> IRON --> EST NA. Similar effect I’d would think I don’t know. I’m not saying ZDs will not have a similar effect on BG, only that the overall influence on the outcome might be less impactful than the alternatives.
In the end, perfect balance is a pipe dream. If it ever exists, it would only last a short while I think. Too much can change too quickly and off-prime time coverage balance is too delicate.
My 2 cents anyways. As always, I disclaim my posts with the chance that I’m a total idiot regarding this stuff.
I think what smokee was looking for is more competitive fielding from JQ in that timeslot, and I don’t mean it as a slight to JQ EU but there isn’t any competition from that side, you have IRON, who is a very good fielding guild and fields a large force from SoR, and basically alphabet soup from JQ. again no offense meant towards JQ EU.
There’s one small flaw in your statments, ZD’s start primetime vs no opposition, so they can cap all the keeps across all 3 bdl’s, having the highest impact of all the guilds in t1 and besides BG already has Coin + RK + HB and some handfull of EU time guilds in the field, They have the numbers to fight IRON, and don’t say you don’t cause you have jsut been running hand-in-hand the whole EU time, and when ZD’s prime is almost over, IRON is starting with 25-30 having to fight at least 40+ ZD’s, like yesterday. Those being replaced by the previous said guilds.
And we don’t run from the fights, but we do have to border hop when we are outmanned in 2 maps and ocasionally need to defend.
Anyways, as you are winning, i expect you to be fighting in the open field instead of behind towers, without having to field 2x numbers + siege.Thank you, see you on the battlefield
Oh how the mighty have fallen IRON whimpering and asking for handicaps, how sad. BG please leave some fight in SOR for when they face JQ again please!
Could you please explain this? From what I have read, seen, and heard, a majority of MERC stayed on BG. If so, how is this a move “about the guild”?
It was a move about the guild, because our active commanders needed more support for our guilds playtime. A number of mercs were nearing burning out night after night covering multiple timezones. Basically from Sea all the way to EU time slots. This moves allows those who stayed with merc and transfered to carry less weight and focus more on our guilds core and our enjoyment factor. I can tell you being a merc has meant you carried a lot of weight.
It was becoming a growing concern when more mercs were scouting for the guild then following the commanders. While very often the many of the rest of BG would follow a merc commander, because at our timeslot of play we were very often the only Tag on all 4 maps. With that said, yes some players moved some didn’t, everyone was allowed there own choice in this matter. No hard feelings. Dred.
Being a MERC carries a lot of weight, bwahahahaha. Seriously with these egos it’s not hard to see why they left for a server that will tell them how pretty they are more regularly. Stroke that ego all you want your bandwagon actions speak more than any of the tripe you keep posting.
…and the way ICoa (Kin), KnT (Rid) and TMD (Choc) has reacted has effectively burnt all bridges…
Cool. Good to know the rep’s of BG doesn’t kiss kitten after getting kittened, like so many others. “Totally understand, have fun in JQ” /puke.
Remember to save some of all that gold for armor repairs.
Remember to save some of that PvE for leagues
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This whole situation seem a bit to familiar to you Joker? The lady doth protest to much.
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