Guild Wars 2

the problems of mesmer pve have been discussed to death and the problems are already staring you straight in the face
anet choose to ignore this, and the only successful mesmers are those who play stockbroker on the TP or have other characters.
alot of people here on this forum are just blind. just look at how many people saying “QQ STOP BEING BAD”

anyway u shouldn’t even bother to post here, sadly even the forums at gamefaqs are more objective then those who frequent this subforum.
and yes we are good at pvp but that doesn’t really matter when majority of the game is pve

Hey Aurorablue,
I’m from Singapore and we’re in the same timezone!
Anyway my guild is at Eredon Terrace right now, we’ve got around 80 people and you might wanna play with us
just add me to friends if u wanna talk about it more,i should be on when you’re on

tbh i never wanted a reset to all the people who are already 400 at cooking but seeing the replies here, i’d like that to happen then see how they would get to 400 in cooking without burning a hole in their pockets.

darqwonders.5308:

Cameirus.8407:

Bolt.1736:

Rhyno.7084:

Mesmers are not handicapped when it comes to PvE.

maybe shed some light on how we aren’t? i’m sure i’m not the only one who think this way since there are other posts on the forum about how useful we are during DEs..

we are very useful during DEs, the issue is not with us but how event contribution works.

mesmers pwn in pve, its almost impossible to die, and you can take whole groups of mobs easy, sure our immediate nukes are low, but you can stack conditions on multiple enemies at once and the dmg ramps up.

Could you expand on why you think mesmers are lacking in pve?

Their unique feature, illusions and shattering, are practically useless in group PvE because every illusion is attached to a single target that dies when the target dies.

Now, if the illusions automatically shattered when a target dies… that would be really awesome.

i dont know if that would be the correct way to fix tagging in DEs as the illusions often spawn near us..
tbh i would like more control over shattering, like if we could shatter 1 or 2 instead of just everything..

Cameirus.8407:

Bolt.1736:

Rhyno.7084:

Mesmers are not handicapped when it comes to PvE.

maybe shed some light on how we aren’t? i’m sure i’m not the only one who think this way since there are other posts on the forum about how useful we are during DEs..

we are very useful during DEs, the issue is not with us but how event contribution works.

mesmers pwn in pve, its almost impossible to die, and you can take whole groups of mobs easy, sure our immediate nukes are low, but you can stack conditions on multiple enemies at once and the dmg ramps up.

Could you expand on why you think mesmers are lacking in pve?

i think what darq says pretty much summed it up
this thread also talks about it
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/General-concerns-about-the-Mesmer-class/first#post58571

but anyway what i noticed is that in group PvE, the mobs often dies before we can get anything off
yes we can get gold contribution easily but often i get so little loot its just sad

oh wow ok so im sorry i didnt seperate group PvE or solo PvE
i thought since almost everything in the game requires you to be in a group, i didnt need to specifically state that mesmers are terrible at group PvE

darqwonders.5308 pretty much hit it anyway, and yes there is no “speed” shatter

Rhyno.7084 i have not tried your build but i did come up with something similar before i was 80 where i would churn out tons of illusions but even at level 80, the damage from triple illu f1 does not do much

apart from the traits you picked and cd reducs, i had mirror image and decoy for my utility/clone generation. but the shatter cd did not allow me to shatter as often as your guide claims i would beable to

several things i want to add of how a shatter mesmer is bad,

while the conditions from shattering are pretty good, they dont do much against bosses and like darq said, in group PvE, the mob is gonna die within 2second flat.

majority of our damage is gonna come from or phastasms, so right now shattering is something i would like to avoid

also after the first burst, you will be unable to sustain chruning out so many illusions even with a scepter due to the long cd of our utility skills

ok now on to the weapon choice
i DO NOT, want to play a staff mesmer
so why am i being forced to play a staff mesmer just to beable to tag mobs in PvE? that makes no sense

even a melee warrior is able to tag so much more mobs then me even thou i out dmg him

Rhyno.7084:

Mesmers are not handicapped when it comes to PvE.

maybe shed some light on how we aren’t? i’m sure i’m not the only one who think this way since there are other posts on the forum about how useful we are during DEs..

tbh GS#3 is our only hope of actually getting some loot in PvE DEs right now
since i dont use staff i will not comment on that but since it bounces i believe it is a little better?

i have no problems with GS #3 as well in pvp, while the small AoE does make it a tad difficult to target but hey, nobody said playing a mesmer was gonna be easy
from BW1, we already said that mesmer would require much more work/skill to be on par with the other classes.

as for torch, it seems like a really good offhand in theory, but i dont know how it is so bad… and shattering really needs ALOT of work

and Moa is actually a rather worthless elite..since they run faster in Moa and is able to get away…but somehow people just rather force themselves into thinking they are “stunned/dazed” as a moa and just people kill them…

lysander.6154:

Yeah, underwater downed state is horrible on mesmer. Learned the hard way to never hit 2 when underwater…usually better off hovering close to the surface and running. To be fair though, I haven’t actually read the description for 2. Is it a ‘feature’ that it locks your movement or is it actually a bug and thus should be reported on the bug forum/ingame?

i believe it is a bug
there is no way the game tells us to swim up to the surface but yet locks our movement
not to mention that we actually “sit” underwater like how we do on land

sure, we all know that we’re pvp orientated but i don’t agree with the line of thought that we have to be severely handicapped at PvE just because of that
lets face it, very few people are going to PvP their way from level 1 to 80 and we’ll gonna have to do some PvE nevertheless

so very true..
right now tbh i just want more end game pve content thou

i actually agree with TS here.
i’ve finished most of dungeons story mode and they are too unrewarding to make me want to do them again
while there are some dungeons like CM and Arah SM which are incredibly easy, AC is ridiculously hard for the first dungeon you go into and AC EM is just absurd.
the blasters in CoE, needs a nerf, 8k tracking missles that hit everything in their path to the target is just wow…
arah’s EM mid boss AoE is almost wipe…

with the current nerfs by removing the ingredients and making them drops only has broke the craft!
butter,eggs prices on the AH will only keep going higher and soon it will be impossible to level for new players.
what you should be doing is to fix cooking not make it impossible to level up anymore and this only gives the players who are already 400 a monopoly on the cooking crafts!

going a little off topic here, but is it just me (am i bugged?) but the last few times where i get downed underwater, my skillset did not change to the underwater ones and i was able to use the land downed skills, but unable to swim/move while downed (which means a 100% death unless i rally)

Moa Morph is not OP at all
many of the reasons listed here are valid but the concerned raised by the people who claims they are OP is ridiculous
they claim that Moa Morph is a 10s daze which it is not
you can attack/run around and even daze targets in Moa form!
in PvE, it hardly works on ANY bosses at all
in wvwvw, it is utterly worthless and in spvp, as long as the targeted player runs while in moa form, he CAN get away if he tries to.

its stuck with him having 0 life for the last 2 days, please fix