Guild Wars 2

Jurica.1742:

maha.7902:

Thrown out of the PVE dungeon meta, extremely fringe in the PvP meta, relegated to veil duty since forever in wvw. Mesmer is complete trash and I can’t believe I sold 2000g worth of strength runes while they were a lot cheaper to craft mine. It’s literally a piece of **** class that leeches off everyone else’s success.

Then what the hell are you doing on these forums if it’s all in such crap?
I’m sick of all this forum whining!
This class is a lot of fun and it can still work very well, just because you may not like that people like the class because of veil or some other kitten doesn’t mean the class is kitten. Don’t play it if you don’t like and stop posting here.
All this whining is counterproductive. People won’t play mesmer because everyone on forums says the class is kitten, the amount of mesmers will decrease and Anet will just stop caring about mesmer. (I know I’ll get flamed for this part) This class does have issues, but it isn’t in such kitten like you guys say it is!
It’s perfectly fine in PvE, the sword ‘fix’ did not effect the s/s + s/f mesmer at all. iLeap is almost never used in PvE.
WvW – We are great for utility, we lack AOE, so what? PU condi, PU power, staff + gs shatter, staff + gs lockdown are all great for roaming.
PvP – Helseth, Misha, Sensotix, Supcutie…
I’m done with forums..

just whanna quote something from Supcutie : "As a concluding thought, currently I do play thief in competitively play. It’s statistically a better choice than mesmer. " from https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/mesmer-versus-thief

so yeah mesmer is such in a great place……LoL

Lorelei.7809:

4th can probably get you out of a bad spot, though, if used wisely. Really like the descriptions. Do they have names for all of them?

their names are:

Domination: Power Block
Dueling: Triumphant Distortion
Chaos: Bountiful Disillusionment
Inspiration: Disruptor’s Sustainment
Illusions: Maim the Disillusioned

1. Mesmer
2. Ranger
3. Elementalist

if you whant a fractal build, then you have to try the Phantasm build.
take a look at Skoteinos FoTM build
– https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Builds-Point-of-NO-Return-PvE-PvP-WvW-FoTM .
Btw im lvl 48 and GS is a must in fractal

ps. in this thread you can find all the buids you whant
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/List-Find-your-Mesmer-Builds-Guides

Same problem here Piken Square

HPLT.7132:

The problem is not the ele. I would call ele a balanced class but the incompentence of arenanet to do significant balance changes more frequently than every 4 weeks and dont even consider to post or test changes before patch goes live is 1 of the main flaws of this game. The meta gets dominated by engi and necros (and maybe spirit rangers) for 2 months now. And there is not a single word about what they want to change in order to fix this bullkitten meta.
Currently every single fight is a hard fight for ele’s. It doesnt matter s/d thief, necro, any kind of engi, spirit rangers – These are fights you simply cant win against experienced players. I dont blame players for use somehow these fotm build, i blame arenanet for beeing so kittening slow in fixing things which were adressed broken from day 1. Instead they not involving the playerbase and what happened? In the last patch they buffed necro deathshroud that every single necro has at least 75% deathshroud in fights.
The problem is conditions were never intended to burst someone but i am currently get eaten alive by them despite i go into water and heal every possible condition due to the super cool condition rank system, which was also not adjusted to current meta. So you cleanse 3 stacks of bleeding instead of burning, well done.
I really hope for these changes tommorow:
- Undo: Signet and Hurl heal nerf
- Engi Elite: change cd to 240 sec – Reduce Immobilize to 1,5 sek – Reduce heal from 6,5k – 4,5k
- Engi: Increase Elixir R Rezz tick rate by 1/2 sec and decrease tick heal to 15% instead of 20%
- Engi: Flamethrower knockback no longer increases burning duration
- Necro: Remove Dhuumfire (never necessary)
- Necro: Decrease Terror damage slightly by 10%
- Necro: Spectral wall doesnt give protection anymore
- Necro: Clear animations for all their skills
- S/D Thief: Increase flanking strike and lazarus strike initiativ costs by 1 point
- S/D Thief: No longer be able to port while stunned with infiltrators strike

I really dont think that ele and especially mesmers are bad designed classes. They also worked before meta change. Its just that they get snowballed especially by these 3 classes heavily. Every minor mistakes you do gets punished heavily (what actually wouldnt be a bad thing if this would also be true for all the other classes). But lets see what they planned to getting ele out of this “1 trick pony” position, the class is currently in.

+1

jportell.2197:

Mesmer was the least represented class from all teams in all of the games for PAX both NA and EU. That should say something.

that say all….

TooBz.3065:

vapour.2916:

This is going to be nice seeing all of the fair weather Mesmers loudly taking their bandwagon boat home.

This is a game played for recreation in people’s free time. It is not a job, it is not a religion, heck, it’s not even like rooting for your local sports franchise, as games are mostly non-territorial. We are all fair weather gamers. If a better game came along or if this one isn’t fun anymore you quit.

If the game isn’t fun and you don’t quit, you may have a problem.

completely agree with you Pyro

i get it, you are trolling us, nice try

#DiogoSilva …..LOL
i know engi were buffed, necro, thief, warrior and guard as well, ele got no nerf and no relevant buff, ranger have some nerf on pet dmg, but a huge buff on the LB.

So tell me where are these “many other builds nerfed” ?

Mesmer:
Mind Spike: Reduced the base damage by 20%. This skill does an additional 50% damage to targets with no boons.
Mind Stab: Reduced the aftercast by .4 seconds.
Illusionary Counter: This skill damage has been reduced to 50% of what it was. It now applies 5 stacks of torment for 8 seconds.
Magic Bullet: Reduced the aftercast by .2 seconds.
Into the Void: This skill now has a 1-second recharge before it can be used after placing Temporal Curtain.
Signet of Illusions: Clones and phantasms will now gain the passive effect of this signet when they are created, rather than a few moments after creation.
Siren’s Call
Bleed duration for players: Reduced from 2 seconds to 1 second.
Bleed duration for clones: Reduced from 2 seconds to 1 second.
Feigned Surge: Increased the damage by 33%.
Ineptitude: Fixed an issue that allowed this skill to be cast at infinite range.
Illusionary Leap: Fixed an exploit that allowed for more clone generation than intended.
Signet of Midnight: Increased the blind duration to 5 seconds. Decreased the cooldown to 30 seconds.
Illusion of Life: Fixed an issue so that Far-Reaching Manipulations no longer reduces the cast time of this skill.
Blurred Frenzy: This is now evasion instead of immunity. This means it will be affected by retaliation. Increased the cooldown to 12 seconds.
Signet of Illusions: Decreased the bonus hit points to clones and phantasms to 50%.
Split the hit point values of clones and phantasms by game type:
Increased the phantasm base hit points by 55% in PvP and WvW.
Increased the phantasm base hit points by 270% in PvE.
Decreased the clone base hit points by 25% in PvP and WvW.
Increased the clone base hit points by 28% in PvE.
Polymorph Moa:
Claw: This skill now jumps towards the target as it hits, and the animation was amended.
Kick: This ability is now a ground-targeted leap skill that damages and cripples enemies for 3 seconds where the player lands. Decreased the recharge to 4 seconds.
Peck: This ability now moves towards the target between each attack. Increased the damage by 10%. Decreased the recharge to 4 seconds.
Screech: This ability now damages and weakens foes for 3 seconds in a 300 radius. Lowered the cast time to 1.5 seconds. Decreased the recharge to 4 seconds.
Flee: Smoothed the animation and reduced the aftercast.
Polymorph Tuna:
Chomp: This ability now cripples for 3 seconds.
Frenzy: Increased the damage by 10%.
Phantasmal Berserker: Fixed an issue that was causing the damage from this summoned phantasm to not display. Updated the berserker’s attack to make it more reliably hit a static target with all 4 of the attacks.
Chaos
Prismatic Understanding: This trait now pulses once every second while stealthed.
Bountiful Interruption: This trait has been moved to the Master tier. In addition to granting a random boon on interrupt, this trait will also grant 5 stacks of might.
Chaotic Interruption: This trait has been moved to the Grandmaster tier. This ability now immobilizes the player’s target and randomly applies blind, cripple, or chill.
Domination
Halting Strike: Damage dealt when interrupting enemies has been increased by 500%.
Dueling
Protected Mantras: This trait now grants up to 400 toughness while channeling (up from 250).
Furious Interruption: This trait now grants 3 seconds of quickness when interrupting a foe. This effect can only occur once every 15 seconds.
Vengeful Images: This trait now only applies retaliation for 5 seconds when they are created and does not persist after that.
Illusions
Imbued Diversion: This trait now allows Diversion to daze 5 targets (up from 3). In addition, the daze radius has been increased to 360 (up from 240).
Illusionary Retribution: Moved to the Adept Minor trait.
Shattered Strength: Moved to the Master Minor trait.
Illusionists Celerity: Moved to the Grandmaster Minor trait.
Inspiration
Malicious Sorcery: This trait grants up to 200 condition damage while wielding a scepter (based on level), up from 50.
Compounding Celerity: Movement speed per active illusion has been increased to 10%, allowing for 30% movement speed when three illusions are active.
Shattered Conditions: This trait now removes one condition from all allies around the mesmer.

Same error here :-(

Server: Piken Square

same error here

hi man, i use the Osicat shatter hybrid build
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Guide-WvWvW-Pve-Shatter-Cat/first,
As the staff and gs, in PVE i use GS(imo is a must) and Staff or S-F (is situationally) , in WvWvW staff and s-s.
hope that will help you

Greyalis.2309:

does anyone use greatsword and staff, and what is your build? your utilities?

I have been trying to maximize a build with both and would like some input.

I am currenty all the way on chaos, and have traited for staff for all the toughness you get. I also traited to get greatsword training to get the power. So I am kind of sacrificing power and precision for toughness from the staff but in wvw or fractals find i don’t have to heal as much or even dodge when i am on staff. I just want to maximize damage on greatsword while still being durable in fights on staff if I need to be. At the same time I want to maximize phantasms so i assume that is power/precision and not condition for the iwarlock?

I also am wondering about utilities for maximizing this type of playstyle. I have currently been playing with signets for utilities and have all three utilities as signets. I know i am sacrificing some utilities but it is awesome in wvw. Basically i get the random boons, along with a prolonged duration on those boons and the ability to boon my allies or especially phantasms. I took signet of midnight just to get some extra condition damage. anyone?

hi man, i use the Osicat shatter hybrid build
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Guide-WvWvW-Pve-Shatter-Cat/first,
As the staff and gs, in PVE i use GS(imo is a must) and Staff or S-F (is situationally) , in WvWvW staff and s-s.

hope that will help you

i’m using Illusion on Life…. for trolling my party members XD…. is WTF happened

It seems strange but i dont see any nerf

“Mesmer
Cleansing Conflagration: This trait should now remove a condition at the beginning of The Prestige instead of at the end of the skill.
Duelist’s Discipline: This trait no longer reduces damage dealt by the Illusionary Duelist.
Illusion of Life: This skill should no longer allow players to rally off of creatures that grant no experience.
Portal Exeunt: Updated the skill fact of this skill to reflect the actual duration. Also added a description to the Portal Uses marker.”

thisisu.7504:

@Cassiel.9431

Here they are: www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix5IDb3BpYk

ty man

Nice job Simo, there would be nice to see ITA language, maybe we will have an answer

thisisu.7504:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrTfbXXJOQ0 – Fractals 36 & 37 – 17m44s

thisisu can you post your build and equipment?

now the guide link works, ty for your work

Bast Bow.2958:

Fay.2735:

Bast Bow.2958:

Hey Fay

‘the boomer’ by bligh redirects me to a post which when I open the link, I don’t get to see any traits…?

greets

There’s a link at the bottom of his post with the traits

I know but when I click it I don’t get to see the traits he used. Only the weaps, armor and jewelry, not the traits it all says 0. Or is it just me then?

he use 10(VI)/ 0 /25(V,X) / 15(II) / 20(II,VII)

nice job Fay

Here is my mes

Finaly, congratulations Osicat, you deserve it