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Pull your finger out anet pls and fix this issue

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fix this issue please

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Edit: 4 characters in LA can now login normally 2 characters 1 in Southsun 1 in Rata Sum cannot login.
Also tried testing moving 1 of the toons in LA to Southsun same issue just hangs on the load screen.

My characters that are in Lions Arch can now log in the ones in Wayfarer still cannot.

Shifty what server are you playing on?

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Just to clarify that this isn’t an issue on the client end, I have just logged onto character selection using another computer.

When trying to enter world on one of my “stuck” characters the problem persists and cannot load into world.

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I have the same problem as the above user.

Can someone from Anet give some kind of response to acknowledge the problem please.

This is not a problem related to the account some of my toons can log in and play in a zone with no problem. Cannot be related to high traffic area if I try to log in on a toon in a low traffic zone for example Wayfarer that toon cannot even enter the game and is stuck on a perpetual loading screen.

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Just logged on my engineer in cursed shore had absolutely no problems connecting to world and using waypoints and switching areas to a low populated zone.

Logged to character selection…. attempted to log into Warrior and same low connection and no zone log to Kessex.

still a problem for me on Desolation server

I wouldnt think kessex was a high traffic area…it seems my characters are having connect issues with certain zones and then are stuck there.

Returned to engineer and fine. Then attempted to log into a high traffic area like Lions Arch and boom stuck again.

Logged into Mage and fine, tried travelling to kessex using portal …. stuck using portal.

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Was fine last night, logged in today and instant problems.

Same for me loaded initially but when changing to another area all of my characters are stuck on a pepetual loading screen

error 7:11:3:191:101

used -repair no change to issue

Checked connection…. fine to everything else I play. It doesnt seem to be hanging as such as completed waypoints and vistas are loaded…but it seems my connection speed is being restricted at the server end. My characters are in world but my connection is so low it cannot draw the world.

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Whenever I’ve moved to another location using WP my characters have become stuck on a permanent loading screen.

Ive tried logging out and in with no joy.

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Really shocked Anet took this path, still playing but have lost a lot of respect for Anet..

Currently I have 5 lvl 80 alts all geared in exotics and in the skins I felt happy with, I probably spent a fair amount of gold and gems on them or time crafting with the long term goal of someday getting a Legendary item on my favorite class. I’m not really a hardcore player or casual…somewhere inbetween.

I’ve played many mmo’s and spent quite a few hours in GW1 from its humble beginning to today.

Thats why its so hard to swallow Anet’s new philosophy going forward. It’s such a massive U turn from what they had previously stated whilst developing. Not just in design but in attitude.

I feel its a shame to make lvl80 exotic gear basically redundant without someway to upgrade it.

I think thats what irked me the most about this..I wouldn’t mind a hard grind to upgrade what I have and infuse every item on every alt… like I said I was in for the long haul.

Whats the difference between upgrading and just slotting in a new BiS item?

The difference is in GW2 Anet have been lazy and uncharacteristically greedy its nothing about progression.

They know like most do the new Ascended armor set and infusions are not about bridging any gap, its about getting the cash shop wheels turning.

This latest development is a huge contridiction in Anets Ethos and thats disappointing.

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Skins alone cannot keep most of us playing the game for longer and longer.

You got the wrong game then. New skins, content, areas, dungeons, items, rares, prestige titles, competitive play, the inability to out gear content, etc, etc. Those are the things that kept the players in Guild Wars. The set of “players” your kind fall under have a billion other choices.

Amen!

Unfortunately thats where the problem is, this content has nothing to do with the casual or ex GW1 player it seems solely aimed at the panda crowd.

The panda expansion seems to have burned, so whats the best way to get those players onboard?

It seems a pretty straight forward move to hastily add progressive content to capture them.

Maybe it would be a good idea to throw out an invite a friend pass or 3 around to net a few more.

This event wasn’t randomly timed imho.

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Drop rates definitely reduced from today.

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“We respect you—as a player, as a human being. This game we’re making may end up competing with your real life. It might fight for your free time alongside your friends, your family, your work, and whatever else you might be doing. Because of that, we want to give you a meaningful experience, not one that is a vapid waste of your time. Whatever your reasons for spending time in Tyria, we don’t want to waste it by doing stuff that isn’t fun”.

Purpose: To keep us honest.

Ben Miller. Games Designer.

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I’m sure Anet will add it soon enough.

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gear grind or not good luck finding an MMO that has one so small.

This might be worth requoting here:

That would be alright if they scrapped Ascended equipment and added the Infusion slots either to existing armour, or to new equipment slots that add no stats besides an Infusion slot.

Beyond every other problem with Ascended armour – the bad precedent they set, the gear treadmill of downgrading everybody’s existing equipment, the power creep, etc – the most important issue is that equipment with top stats shouldn’t be any harder to get than the cheapest Exotics already are.

Exotics are “easy” to get if you play one character, with one build, and you don’t care whether or not your character looks nice.
Call the amount of time needed to outfit a character in exotics ‘x’.
If you play more than one character, getting a full set of Exotics for each character multiplies the amount of time needed to max out by the number of characters (‘c’). You now need to spend ‘cx’ time to max out.
If you play more than one build on those characters, and need gear with different stats to make each build effective, you now need to multiply the amount of time spend grinding by the number of builds per character (‘b’). So now we’re up to bcx.
And when you factor in aesthetics, Exotics cover the range from low-end crafted equipment (~2g each, let’s say) to high-end, sub-legendary items like Mjolnir, Foefire’s Essence, etc (up to ~500g). So let’s say this is effectively a multiplier with a range from 1~250.

Let’s assume you don’t care about appearance, but you have three characters, and two builds to play on each. It’s now costing you 6x to outfit all your characters.
Or say you only have one character, but you have three builds you’d like to play, and you’re only moderately concerned with making that character look cool (give it a multiplier of just 4 or so). Now it’s taking you 12x to max out. Or, hell – say you just want to be able to play any of the game’s eight classes, even if you don’t have specialized builds for any of them and don’t care about looking cool. Still a cost of 8×.

So how much is ‘x’? Well, if we set the cost per piece of Exotic equipment at 2g, as we did earlier, then you’re going to need between 13 and 16 pieces of equipment, depending on how many weapons you use – let’s use 13, to be generous here (only Elementalists and Engineers can possibly get away with only having one weapon, but there also aren’t any Exotic back braces, so we’ll split the difference). That means that ‘x’ is 26g.
That’s ‘attainable’, not ‘trivial’, all by itself.

But in the first case, where we needed 6x to max out? Suddenly this is 156g.
The second case was 12x – that’s a whopping 312g!
The third case, 8x – so just the base cost of playing each class, without any specialization or particular attention paid to customization – still shakes out to 208g.

That’s a lot of kitten money. It’s not too likely that you’re going to see more than 2g or so per hour of playtime. I wouldn’t call a grind time of 75+ hours “too easy” to get, by any stretch of the imagination.

Now figure that, based on what we’ve seen so far (and this is roughly consistent with the jump in cost from Rare to Exotic), the overall cost to acquire an Ascended piece can be roughly on par with obtaining a full set of Exotic armour.
In other words, ‘x’ could easily be multiplied by 10-20, or more.

This is the biggest problem with Ascended equipment. It’s designed to give long-term goals to players who refuse to play more than one character, refuse to play more than one build per character, and who refuse to expend that extra time they have into improving their character aesthetically.
In the process, it constitutes a functional downgrade to every character in the game (Exotic is the new Rare, Rare is the new Masterwork, etc), and it renders it effectively impossible to play multiple characters, or even multiple builds, and even takes cosmetic advancement largely off the table, because the time that you would spend trying to get a really nice looking Exotic set now has to be dedicated toward getting your Ascended equipment, because otherwise you’re at a mechanical disadvantage.

So for a reasonable playstyle that includes more than one character and/or more than one build per character, Exotic equipment could easily extend the grind by a factor of 10, meaning 750-1000+ hours of pure grinding

“Good luck” indeed.

Or buy gems to exchange which is Anets real motivation.

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The main difference between the FoV and the Ascended gear is that FoV is actually accessible at the moment.

Less you forget, FoV also kicked up a fuss on the forums not too long ago and incited developer response and dialog. It also got looked into and eventually addressed. In fact they originally said it was impossible without breaking the game. However, it underwent a beta period of testing on live servers and eventually got rolled into the game as default. (Looks so much better).

My contending point is that they are probably waiting for it to get into the wild before they address concerns in more depth. This initial uproar is about something that we haven’t even played yet and haven’t fully experimented with the impacts it has on the game when it is opened up over the weekend.

With this patch they have in fact only released 3 slots worth of items, and the potential impact is probably being closely monitored. The doom bringers in this thread will tell you this spells out that they intend to release more full tiers of gear in the future, despite them saying several times that isn’t their intent.

Going by the data mined legendary stats from before this patch went live, they did already have higher stats than the Exotic weapons, which could suggest that they fully intended this gear to be in the game at some point after launch, and thus it isn’t the start of some endless repeating process of adding higher tiers of gear, but a way of spreading out content prolonged throughout their continual development, (including the addition of the Ascended items within WvWvW and general PvE (be that crafting, karma or otherwise (insanely difficult jumping puzzle please <3).

There is quiet rightly a lot they haven’t said to the community, but as opposed to it being done in some negative ignoring way, they are in fact waiting until their content is actually in our hands and being played through, before responding to the largely negative responses to it’s announcement. After all, don’t knock it till you’ve tried it.

Whilst there has been a lot of negative comments about being ‘lied’ to about the concept of gear grinding, it’s apparent that we have yet to see the full spectrum of what A.Net plans in regards to progression and procurement of the Ascended gear in future content updates. A manifesto is by definition, a statement of intent, and a publicly delivered set of ideas and future visions.

It has been stated that they current intent is to give us an expansion packs worth of content through monthly (?) installments of content, an expansion should, if delivered correctly offer multiple paths towards obtaining what they set out as the ‘end-game’ of progression.

As we have only seen the very first part of this content, I am quiet happy to give them then benefit of the doubt until I have seen more of their intended additions to ‘progression’ in future updates, before I get all up in arms about having to run a dungeon as my only option at end game.

While I agree with you fully, it’s still worrying though.
And I feel that people in this age are too impatient and already had no faith in ArenaNet whatsoever. People are scared of every change. Hell, minutes after the patch was up, people were shouting (as usual) over the profession skill fixes.

People are just very passionate about this game, but there seems to be no stopping and drawing a line saying: “okay, let’s see how this works” There’s so many emotional responses here there doesn’t seem to be any room in order to step back, wait for the content review the content (Hell it’s free, so room enough to test, the game isn’t that bad, oh and you don’t have to pay them any money for it)

Try to get some of the ascended gear, see how long it takes you, if it’s really that bad that it makes you feel you want to bash your face into the keyboard for so long that your forehead reads QWERTY. Yes? Come back, and complain about this with some actual facts.

At least that’s what I’m gonna do.

I guess it’s because while the game may be free to play a lot of players have invested a lot of time and in some cases real money into what the have achieved already. (Fully geared characters and skins etc).

To have the slate wiped clean without having the option to build on their achievements is naturally disturbing.

It poses the question a lot of us are asking ourselves,. “How often is this going to happen, and will it never end?”

I know whilst this game was in development I never once worried about Gw2 becoming a gear treadmill because of my experience with Gw1 and the things the developers were saying.

This seems solely a business decision to get players to put their hands in their pockets….and not even a very well hidden one.

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Does this mean if a new dungeon is released, you have to buy new armor to add your infusions to?

I know you could just swap infusions but wouldn’t that overwrite and destroy the old ones?

I don’t know but this all seems just to be developed to get us to dip into our pockets for real cash.

They have stepped away massively from the gw1 cash shop formula.

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I have no issue with this change as it relates to PvE/Dungeons. This is not for me, but it works for the majority of MMO’ers if WoW is any indication.

So far it worked only for WoW. All the other MMOs that tried to emulate WoW lost to the Emperor of Threadmill and went free-to-play pretty quick.

I’ve said it before but….I’d rather pay to play and get the game they promised us, than continue down this road.

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Your a vocal minority apparently….which is unfortunate.

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It says, chest at end gives 5 per fractal. Nowhere does it state anymore. every 3 fractals will increase the difficulty one level.

I’ll just assume the journalists that wrote that are clueless and forgot to check if the relic rewards stay the same when you increase difficulty.

Yea they must have missed it, because 5 per fractal would be unbelievably bad.

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Please read this before anyone continues their rampant speculation

http://www.guildwars2hub.com/guides/basics/complete-guide-fractals-mists#.UKT2QkeP4Po.reddit

This will explain the dungeon in full. You get 5 relics per Fractal, 3 fractals before an increase in difficulty. Relics are used to purchase your gear, so it things look alot less random than people thought.

So assuming that a fractal takes, in the best case, 15 minutes to complete as they wrote:
Those items cost 1.350 relics.
15 min = 5 relics
1.350 / 5 = 270 (Fractals)
270 * 15 (minutes) = 4050 minutes = 67.5 hours
So 67.5 hours of nonstop fractals for one item.
We have 12 equipment slots NOT including weapons.
810 hours to get items for all 12 slots.
Let’s assume that one day is defined as 12 hours.
And we’re back to 67,5. That is 67,5 days of non-stop dungeons to get all of your equipment this way.
Truly, there’s no grinding in GW2.

i was doing a calculation like this 5 minutes ago… but i see there is no need anymore.

+1 to this post

and why that guide is not on the main site? or here in the forum? O_o

For. 1 exotic item

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For those who say this isn’t gated or a treadmill. Please follow along.

Imagine GW2 6 months from now. Ascended gear is finally available in a full set. A lot of people (probably not most) have achieved their full sets, and are happily plodding along. It was released in a trickle so the grind wasn’t too bad…

Now, they want to release a new, challenging dungeon and map.

Do they balance it around a player in full Exotic gear? If they do so then the dungeon will be much easier for those in Ascended gear. They will complain that it was too easy.

Or, do they balance it around a player in full Ascended gear? If they do so then the dungeon will be impossible for anyone who doesn’t have Ascended gear. New players, slow players, non-dungeon crawlers, crafters, PvPers, explorers. Oh, but this is when they will allow other paths to Ascended gear.

And… what is it they are going to reward for this new dungeon 6 months out? Will they be rewarding only Ascended gear with the exact same stats? That didn’t work with Exotics… why would it now work with Ascended?

I was planning to play this game for the next 5 years or more. I own four accounts, all with slot upgrades and bank upgrades. My main account (which I play on personally) has 1 of each profession working their way to 80, and gathering multiple sets of gear to match different playstyles.
This is a moving goal-post, and I now have no idea what it will take to “finish” any of my characters.

I do not want a never ending sense of progression.
I want a finite sense of completion.
AND THEN – I want to just have a good time with the game, and the community.

You missed the whole progressive part of the dungeons that pretty much say you dont need the new gear…. but as you repeat the content with your group it gets harder and harder till you do need it.

This lets casual players that dont like getting gear do the content and have fun with the challenge.

Then the progressive players that like to gear up can keep grinding it until its so hard they cant go any further until they get the ascend gears.

Why can’t you comprimise is the question now. You still get the game you were advertised… your not required to get anything to do anything, its all doable. They have simply added an option for different player types to do the same exact content but just hard mode basically.

Except this gear will be used in WvW and general PvE content such as DE.

I don’t like dungeons, I like WvW, sPvP, and DE very rarely.

And more importantly.. you missed the very first idea in my post.

Imagine GW2 6 months from now

Yes, I get that THIS dungeon in THIS update is doable with Exotics. I mean, you can’t get to the highest end of rewards with them, but you can start.
But what about the NEXT dungeon in the NEXT update? That is the crux of my post and I don’t think you read any of it.

Exactly!? Its only a treadmill if future updates past this require the previous content update to even do the content. If new content has new armor/buffs but doesn’t require more than exotics to start then THERE ISN’T AN ISSUE.

Didn’t know I’d purchased WoW 2.0

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LFM Fractals, Ascended Only

I can expect to see this a lot in Lion’s Arch, if this patch goes through as-is.

If that’s the case it won’t be long before Anet will be in Lions Arch LFP

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Look… If you expect to NOT play this game and still be on par with everyobne your having a pipe dream. I cant beleive that anyone would egnuinley think that would be acceptable. If you dont play the game EXPECT to be l eft behind its perfectly natural. This smacks of people who want everything but dont want to put the effort in.

I don’t know what pipe dream you’re coming from but that model was working perfectly in GW1.
Why? Because when I want to be on par with other people, I want my skill to matter, not my gear. It’s called fair play.
To be honest, it’s people like you – who expect grind to give them advantage – are the ones wanting advantage for free in my eyes.

I don’t expect to be on part with achievement points or gold or whatever, I expect to be on par in the stats. That’s what GW1 offered and that’s what GW2 was supposed to offer. There are plenty of the game areas where you can farm, grind, shine and impress the more you play – kitten points, gold, shiny armour… Just not stats.

Well said +1

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Ok you take one group with 36% more stats over all due to having full sets of new gears/weapons vs another group that does not have that stuff….

Tell me, who will win in pure numbers?

Oh you say it’s only 2 rings and a back slot, silly! Then I point out they explicitly said they are not only adding a full set with accompanied weapons but ALSO with mutiple ‘tiers’ and more legendaries on top of that.

So now you want to not play and not be left behind in stats or gear… oh dear… C’mon if you dont play the gae for 3 months or whatnot ofc you will be left behind, thats perfectly normal and expected…

This game becomes Gear Wars, just like that other game and all it’s clones.

That would be a no thank you for me.

They said it in their announcement post that the gear wouldn’t all be released at once. The only ascended gear being released today is a piece or two…. ill go back and read maybe ive been up to long and im off my rocker o.O. But if they release say 2 pieces every 3 months….. the situation you outlined above is really not gonna happen because most will go after the new pieces.

Most who are at the level cap, who have full sets of good gear (rare or exotic), who enjoy dungeons, who want to grind for Ascended gear (which based on their reasoning will be more difficult than exotics, less than legendary), and who have the privilege to play the game over the next couple months.

Anyone who does not fall into ALL of those categories will be left behind.

Look… If you expect to NOT play this game and still be on par with everyobne your having a pipe dream. I cant beleive that anyone would egnuinley think that would be acceptable. If you dont play the game EXPECT to be l eft behind its perfectly natural. This smacks of people who want everything but dont want to put the effort in.

“It all gets back to our basic design philosophy. Our games aren’t about preparing to have fun, or about grinding for a future fun reward. Our games are designed to be fun from moment to moment.”
Mike O’Brien
President and Co-Founder of ArenaNet
Executive Producer of Guild Wars 2

And this is true. The game will still be fun from moment to moment. It still doesent mean u can not play for 3 months and remain at the same level as everyone else.

“So if you love MMORPGs, you should check out Guild Wars 2. But if you hate traditional MMORPGs, then you should really check out Guild Wars 2. Because, like Guild Wars before it, GW2 doesn’t fall into the traps of traditional MMORPGs. It doesn’t suck your life away and force you onto a grinding treadmill; it doesn’t make you spend hours preparing to have fun rather than just having fun; and of course, it doesn’t have a monthly fee.”

Mike O’Brien
President and Co-Founder of Arena Net
Executive Producer of Guild Wars 2

Does that mean I can have my money back if I wanted, if they go down this progression route?

Sadly no.

Actually – yes.
If you purchased directly from Arena Net.

I did … Excellent. I’m even more interested now to see how this unfolds.

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As I have said before…

“Here are some of my problems, and other people probably feel the same way.

In gw1 you hit max level pretty early and get max gear pretty fast. After that you just farm for custom skins.

Gw2 was sold to us as the same type of thing.

So, I had planned on leveling 1 of each class to level 80 and buy them all multiple sets of exotic gear and weapons. Then I was going to mostly play them in WvW and then sometimes explore pve for fun and skins, as new content came out.

A lot of people had already gotten far enough to make lots of sets of exotics and used transmutation stones, believing that this gear would have max stats forever. Some spending a fair amount of money on this and now feel it was wasted and are upset.

The problem now is that the precedent has been set for new tiers of gear being added into the game.

I no longer believe that I will be able to level all classes to 80 and get all of the different sets of gear for them in the time that I want to spend with the game.

Even if I decided I could live with this new gear and filled the inventory of my characters with lots of different sets of gear for WvW, they could then just decide to add a new tier of gear and all my time would have been semi wasted and I would need to farm new gear. I would never be able to trust that my gear had the best stats and I would never use transmutation stones either.

So, pretty much, with this update, the game will no longer be the game that I wanted to play and I will have to quit.

For me to play the way I had planned on playing the game would have to have a firm max tier, or, WvW will have to use pvp gear… or both."

So this has nothing to do with me whining. If the patch goes through it will no longer be the game that I want to play. From my point of view this patch will cause as much disinterest for me as if it was patched into being a racing simulator or an RTS.

I also notice that the few people (defending)calling people names have only posted in this forum as if they are new accounts… I doubt if most of them are even real players of the game.

People need to stop saying they are setting a precedent.

Every single change sets a precedent… nerfs, buffs etc…. they all set a precedent.

Increasing karma prices for gear? Precendent…. How do we know they wont continue doing this?

Flooding the market with Materials? Precendent… What if they did this with other hard to get mats?

Saying they are setting a precedent doesn’t mean anything when everything they change can set a precedent.

It’s changing their stated game philosophy – play it your way – not any more – no gear grind – not any more – multiple paths to a goal – not any more – no exclusion from content based on gear – not any more. And that’s what ppl have an issue with this is not the game I bought if I wanted this tired old format I’d be back in WoW or Rift.

You can still play how you want…. You don’t even need Ascended gear if you don’t want it as it isn’t the most beneficial tier, no upgrades means your shoehorned into what stats they give you… you can still achieve your goals anyway you want…. and your still not excluded from content…. you can do all 9 Fractals without needing Ascended gear. I don’t see what content you are then missing out on.

Until LFG must have full Ascended.

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Ok you take one group with 36% more stats over all due to having full sets of new gears/weapons vs another group that does not have that stuff….

Tell me, who will win in pure numbers?

Oh you say it’s only 2 rings and a back slot, silly! Then I point out they explicitly said they are not only adding a full set with accompanied weapons but ALSO with mutiple ‘tiers’ and more legendaries on top of that.

So now you want to not play and not be left behind in stats or gear… oh dear… C’mon if you dont play the gae for 3 months or whatnot ofc you will be left behind, thats perfectly normal and expected…

This game becomes Gear Wars, just like that other game and all it’s clones.

That would be a no thank you for me.

They said it in their announcement post that the gear wouldn’t all be released at once. The only ascended gear being released today is a piece or two…. ill go back and read maybe ive been up to long and im off my rocker o.O. But if they release say 2 pieces every 3 months….. the situation you outlined above is really not gonna happen because most will go after the new pieces.

Most who are at the level cap, who have full sets of good gear (rare or exotic), who enjoy dungeons, who want to grind for Ascended gear (which based on their reasoning will be more difficult than exotics, less than legendary), and who have the privilege to play the game over the next couple months.

Anyone who does not fall into ALL of those categories will be left behind.

Look… If you expect to NOT play this game and still be on par with everyobne your having a pipe dream. I cant beleive that anyone would egnuinley think that would be acceptable. If you dont play the game EXPECT to be l eft behind its perfectly natural. This smacks of people who want everything but dont want to put the effort in.

“It all gets back to our basic design philosophy. Our games aren’t about preparing to have fun, or about grinding for a future fun reward. Our games are designed to be fun from moment to moment.”
Mike O’Brien
President and Co-Founder of ArenaNet
Executive Producer of Guild Wars 2

And this is true. The game will still be fun from moment to moment. It still doesent mean u can not play for 3 months and remain at the same level as everyone else.

“So if you love MMORPGs, you should check out Guild Wars 2. But if you hate traditional MMORPGs, then you should really check out Guild Wars 2. Because, like Guild Wars before it, GW2 doesn’t fall into the traps of traditional MMORPGs. It doesn’t suck your life away and force you onto a grinding treadmill; it doesn’t make you spend hours preparing to have fun rather than just having fun; and of course, it doesn’t have a monthly fee.”

Mike O’Brien
President and Co-Founder of Arena Net
Executive Producer of Guild Wars 2

Does that mean I can have my money back if I wanted, if they go down this progression route?

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Well it’s kinda obvious the Devs aren’t listening/don’t care, we would have a real response to our concerns. Not a rehashed “This is what we are doing regardless”.

Interesting they are willing to alienate a large proportion of their player base but its becoming blatantly obvious this change will be railroaded in.

Maybe they should do a rewrite of the original Manifesto. Seems only fair to any prospective buyer of the game.

I wouldn’t give my invite a friend ticket to anyone until Anet has some fair resolution to this obvious mess.

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So in WvW the new stats on legendary’s will be much greater than exotics or ascended.

I was sure it was explained legendary items was for skin only?

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I’d rather pay a monthly fee and get the Guild Wars 2 I thought I was going to be playing.

Amazing how money clouds vision and really stops a game fulfilling its true potential.

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Pride comes before the fall

I honestly don’t want to see them fall because they’ve actually made a game I’ve enjoyed playing more then any other for a long long time. I felt relaxed playing this game knowing there wasn’t a rush like in other games to achieve the goals I wanted to achieve.

But now hell…..I’m really disappointed they are going to go in this direction.

I feel a bit cheated to be honest.

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If there weren’t another tier lined up after this one then how would they keep the new target audience?

If they want to keep grinders then they need a constant grind, not just one new tier to occupy them for a few hours each time a new item is added.

how do you know theres a “NEW” target for the game????. what if ascendeds are there way of setting up for a more logically sustainable method of fufilling the original models purpose?

Clearly this new change is not aimed at the audience which all their previous statements, press releases, interviews, etc were aimed at, because they are now saying the exact opposite of what they were saying before.

One way or another whether it be the Ascended armor, the new recipes or making an entire set of armor obsolete it will all be about making Anet cash…..it will be aimed at the audiences pocket.

The guys who developed this game are no fools, all the suggestions we’ve had about adding slots to exotics …. they probably discussed light years ago.

The hard facts are they chose to go down the progression route for a reason…. And I’m inclined to think now….it’s all about the money.

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They attempt to pawn this off as if it was character development when in fact it’s simply gear progression which is plain and simply not what this game advertised. They stated what legendary was. It was a digital representation of time invested in the game. It was never meant to be a statistical advantage in any way shape or form.

This is basically bait and switch.

Correct but I’m guessing it just another way to milk the cash cow, bait and switch, smoke and mirrors,

Pull the progression featured game haters in first, then understand the real cash is to be made with the progression based mentality players and switch.

Best of both worlds.

For Anet.

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Give us a way to upgrade our exotics to Ascended armor (keeping their skin) and I dont think many would complain.

They might even do that, but what’s to say you won’t have to grind as long or longer to upgrade your exotics? And when the next infusion set is released and they give you a way to farm your way to upgraded t2 ascended, you’ll still have to ask yourself: “Is this the last time I have to pass the finish line?”

That’s what it comes down to. Invalidating/devaluing our achievements and the loss of trust in ANet that they would never ever do this kind of thing.

To be honest I wouldnt care if it took me longer to it this way, It means the hours I put into getting exotics through collection farming and crafting wouldnt be flushed down the toilet.

I would feel better if my existing armor could be enhanced without changing the skin i also spent money and time collecting.

I mean why should we pay again for transmutation stones to convert my T3 cultural or Vigil armor skins across to a different armor type?

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Give us a way to upgrade our exotics to Ascended armor (keeping their skin) and I dont think many would complain.

Or just bring ascended down to exotics, in stats, and have infussion be a gem, rune and sigil. Then we can equip it on our exotic, and people who want the new look of ascended can still aim for that gear.
That adds new gear for people, without it being a gear treadmill. So basically staying true to what GW2 should be like. It is a pity we have to now grind to get the next level of armour. I feel like my hard work to get exotics was for nothing.

Please Anet, remove the stats from your ascended gear and let is upgrade exotics with infussion.

Works either way, totally agree with you.

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Give us a way to upgrade our exotics to Ascended armor (keeping their skin) and I dont think many would complain.

Transmutation? You don´t have to get these Ascended items. Dungeons now, are easy as hell with exotics. You dump down the content for yourself. Ascended armor is not required to play the game. Had never harmode gear in WoW as example.

You maybe never had it but I “chose” to have it crafting it for my characters.

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The only thing that will change is Infusions, they will slowly get stronger, and Infusions are purely a PVE thing! So when the new Infusions come out all you have to do is put it into the slot on your gear.

They could have simply made rune sets with agony resistance.

But they didn’t do that, they deliberately decided to introduce a gear grind instead.

They havent done that because it will cost you real money in transmutation stones unless your lucky to get the look you want for your armor.

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Give us a way to upgrade our exotics to Ascended armor (keeping their skin) and I dont think many would complain.

Please let me "Ascend" my Exotics.

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Yep fantastic Idea, people would not feel cheated at losing their existing exotic armor and include drop items from the world and/or dungeons as well as the new dungeon.

At least then other world area’s would be more populated.

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An ability to add another slot to exotic armor would have fixed the problem of progression and would have been the sensible answer. Imbued gear could of happened just like in Guild Wars using a quest chain or something like that.

Anet has it reasons for going down this route but to me is totally against their original manifesto.

I feel a bit let down, I was loving being able to play my different 80 alts and enjoying the different styles of gameplay on a level playing field with everyone else.

This will just funnel everyone into the same Dungeon for Ascended Items, why would they sell out like this?

So all my remaining time will be upgrading armor on my alts?

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Incredible step in the wrong direction in my opinion, if Anet wanted to keep me in the game its sadly failed.

A skill based shift should of been made to increase longevity to the game not a progressive value change in item stats…. sadly it is just an easy fix without needing thought.

So I now have to grind gear for all of my alts at 80 and now forced to decide which class I take forward into what could be an endless cycle of infusions needed to perform in new content?

No thanks.