Guild Wars 2

Dawdler.8521:

arnitheking.8427:

Both piken and fsp are strong enough as is and were t1 (piken admittedly with link, but fsp without link).

lolwat?!

Piken has dominated T1 for 4 weeks with zero competition from both FSP and Riverside, solely due to massive numbers.

Hopefully the links will shuffle it up a bit, otherwise we are back to the same kittening stalemate of one server to dominate them all.

Hola,

Archi from Far Shiverpeaks here. In all honesty I whilest we (Fsp) do have the potential, only a handfull off us actually work on points per tic. If you were to look at for example the kill death ratio’s I think that offers a far better view on our server.

Either way, before you praise Piken who has been linked for over 3 months to us where we had to keep our head up single handed. Take a look at this week, we finally received reinforcements from Vabbi and let me put it this way. Piken is nowhere to be found at this point now their old link is gone. We’re partying in their keeps continuesly.

Long story short; We (the top 3 servers Piken/River/Fsp) are just carrying the links, and I think the linking is because Anet realises WvW is close to dieing, therefore they link low servers to high servers in the hope that the players from the low pop servers will transfer. That for one keeps WvW more alive for all of us, and Anet earns moneyzz.

Let me know what you guys think.

- Archi

Yeah, my favourite free part of this expansion is paying another 10 € for 800 gems to play the only thing that matters for me in this whole DLC, the revenant.

Or am I expected to delete 1 of my other 5 characters that cost me 20€ each in bagspace, a load of gold in armour and many good memorys, just to try out a class that I may or may not like.

Here I saw this video on a different thread. Watch it and tell me that we are greedy.

Lol..

This sums it up..
http://puu.sh/itAcM/bffe1e0ea4.png

P.s- Retail sites already offering this game at discounted rates

http://www.gamecard.mobi/guild-wars-2-heart-of-thorns-addon-pc.html?___store=default&a_aid=ckw

http://www.gamesdeal.com/guild-wars-2-heart-of-thorns-addon-pc.html?___store=english&a_aid=ckw

Atleast EU players can pay with dollars there and benefit from a normal price, rather then getting double screwed.. And guess what, these sites atleast give us the release date (late december 2015)

Dano.5623:

Eagle.7208:

Gaile Gray.6029:

Hey all,

We understand that there are many opinions and suggestions about the game versions and the pre-purchase program. We will continue to read your thoughts and thank you for sharing them.

At last, a sign of life from the aNet office! Honestly though.. We need a character slot or we cannot play the expansion, not going to delete 1600 gems worth of bagspace :-(

You will be able to play the expansion with existing characters

All I care for is the Revenant class, forget fractiles and stuff, World vs World is all I do. You can charge me the silly price, but if I cant use the class its pointless to buy for me.

I saw this posted earlyer on in the thread. This pretty much sums it up.
http://puu.sh/itAcM/bffe1e0ea4.png

Hi,

Before a massive flame war starts, I would like to ask everyone to keep it civil. Thank you in advance.

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Dear ArenaNet,

As a World vs World player, the past 3 years Guild Wars has brought me joy, small updates over time, world vs world ranks, account bound magicfind. Awesome stuff, as soon as I heard about this asskicking Revenant class, I thought: I want to try that upon release! This sounds amazing.

I rushed to the pre-order page as soon as I came online. But what I saw.. it was shocking..
For a standart package you charge 45,99€, and it comes without character slot.. The only thing I wanted from this expansion and was willing to pay for was the Revenant class and that is impossible unless I pay extra for it.

I am not going to get into the “New players get a free gamecopy as bonus” dicussion to much, but come on, if it wasnt for us and our gemstore purchases, the company would not be able to pay the salary of the gamedevs that made this expansion.. I’m fine with giving them something extra, but for this pricetag Sigh

In advance to possible replys:
- I don’t want to spent 60 hours goldfarming to be able to play an expansion that I paid for.

- I don’t want to hear “But world of warcraft did not give extra character slots” Want to know why? I also been an active W.o.W player, but in W.o.W you will get laughed off the stage if people hear you mention paying for character slots or bagspace, or bank tabs. You can get bagspace and banktabs for gold, or just use one of your 10 character slots.

.

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You’re suggesting me to either:
A. Delete 20€ worth of gems (in unlocked bagspace) + Lv.80 character.
B. Spent 800 gems worth 10€ for an extra character slot

How is that fair? I’m buying a product to play the new class, I am not interessed in buying the abillity to play a new class, but only if I am willing to spent more money.

All these complaits could be solved by making people who PRE-ORDER, get PRE-ORDER bonuses. Because what is the point in a PRE-ORDER, if I get the same out of it when I buy it on the day of release, or the month after release.

This would have solved all off the complaints, and I am 100% positive off it:

“Hey, everyone who pre-orders gets a bonus 800 gems for free! You can use it to buy either a character slot, or spent it on a fancy outfit in the gemstore! Happy gaming!”

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Another thing I would like to address is currency favouritism:

American currency favours people with roughly 20% discount.
Let’s take a moment to compare the Ultimate edition.

American players pay: 100$ (Equals: €88,15)
European players pay : 100€ (Since when are dollars equal to euro’s o.O)
UK based players pay: 79,99GBP (Equals 112.10€)

It has got nothing to do with VAT, the United Kingdom is part of the EU and has similair VAT regulations, as a matter off fact, their VAT of 20% is below EU average, where Luxembourg is bottem leader with 17% and Sweden on the top with 25% VAT.

Now I can already smell the comments.. “Yeah, but it has to do with conversion!”
Since when are conversion rates 1/5th of the total amount? If thats the case, you got to find a new payment processor.. A difference for conversion rates? Sure, but not this large.

Many off us pay by PayPal, on a 35Gbp transaction, paypal charges 1.57GBp processing and conversion fees. That is just about 4,5%, and it already includes conversion to US Dollars.

That being said, I as European customer, can also pay in Dollars through paypal, why am I not allowed to by ArenaNet?

Looking forward to the replys…

papry.8096:

Hey, remember the reddit post with the help for recent buyer of GW2.
Guess what ?
Here; their answer to people asking for help.

http://i.imgur.com/T0lpOQO.jpg

Wow, just wow. Apparently the support lead did not inform his team enough. On reddit people were promissed a refund if they were recent buyers.

- EDIT: Note though you are not prepaired to elminate your current guild wars subscription, if you were to do that they might want to help you?

Slowly I am losing my faith in Arena Net and this situation.. FAQ Ninja edit few hours before launch, suddenly the game comes free as addon.

You know what this sounds to me like? Not marketing.. It sounds like a technical flaw in your source coding, and marketing profits from it.

Otherwise you could have easyly corrected this by selling the EXPANSION<- (Huh am I expanding with a new core game?) seperatly.

My two cents? Compensate ALL pre-orders with 800 gems, let them decide what to do with it, either buy their own character slot, or let them spent it on a fancy dress. Everyone will be happy.

Also, I still need to know why UK based players pay 111,50€ for the DLC, whilest the rest of europe that has the same VAT (Included in the price even) pays 99,99.

(Tax regulations for online purchases vary between 18 and 21% across the whole of EU, and conversion rates are far from 10% of the total price)

Gaile Gray.6029:

Hey all,

We understand that there are many opinions and suggestions about the game versions and the pre-purchase program. We will continue to read your thoughts and thank you for sharing them.

At last, a sign of life from the aNet office! Honestly though.. We need a character slot or we cannot play the expansion, not going to delete 1600 gems worth of bagspace :-(

800 gems would be the perfect compensation, let people choose if they want a character expansion slot, or spent it on a fancy dress in game. I’m sure the mayority will accept that as compensation.

Cactus Brawler.7415:

Zappix.7928:

That leaves the question:
Why do UK based players pay 111,52€ whilest the rest of the EU pays 100 flat rate?
If anyone has any answers to this, please enlighten me.

I have no idea, it could be our currency conversion currently to Euros.

It says that it costs £79.99 which translates to 111.5 Euros. If they charged us flat out 100 Euros they’d have to lower the £ cost which would make customers in Europe buy it in £’s rather than Euros.

We always get scammed in the UK, Australians also get scammed. Don’t worry too much about it.

We pay Tax up front in the UK, other countries get it added on afterwards.

Australians though just get scammed.

Ehh, Sub-Total Incl. VAT €99,99 for me the VAT is included in the 100 Euro, and I pay 21% where the UK peeps pay 20%..

Hi,

So.. Here we are at page 60, reply number 2943 (how did this even get this far). Not even a single serious response from Arena Net, the only thing one of the representatives had to say was “You Rang?” before he left the thread. Let me quickly sum up a few facts aswell as my opinion on this all.

To begin with the FAQ Ninja edit:

June 15th 2015 22:26:00 GMT

Original FAQ Cachec by google – Click me

Q: Do I have to own Guild Wars 2 to play the expansion?
A: Yes. Guild Wars 2: Heart of Thorns is an expansion to Guild Wars 2 and not a stand-alone campaign, and therefore it requires the base game to play.

On the editted version of the offical FAQ it now states:

Q: Do I have to own Guild Wars 2 to play the expansion?
A: Yes, but Guild Wars 2: Heart of Thorns includes the Guild Wars 2 core game.

As you can see, last minute decission they toss in the game free of charge, now I am “Ok” with the price, I suppose there are other game expansions with similair prices but what I do find offensive is that we do not get an additional character slot. The issue I have with that is as following:

I am buying the expansion for one single reason: To play Revenant, wether it will suck or not is a second. I do not have any available character slots, now you could say: “Hey go delete one of your nubs!” My answer to that is simpel: No. I did not level up that character, spent gold for it and most important spent gems to unlock bagspace on them simply to delete them to make a new account and spent more gems.

As many people before mentioned adjust your concept, you have shown us with the FAQ edit that last minute changes are nothing new for your company. We simply want to play the content we purchase.

Now I have a two suggestions, that I know off will make your playerbase happy again.

Suggestion A.
- Compensate everyone who pre-orders any pack with 1 additional character slot. Basic would get 1 character slot token, the deluxe and ultimate versions 2.

Suggestion B.
- Compensate everyone with 800 gems, gems are completely virtual, it will cost you NOTHING. (Yes people, I know gems are money but they are not making any costs, they are just earning less) 800 gems is sufficient for all players to decide wether they need a new account slot, or if they want to buy a new fancy outfit from the gemstore.

One other thing though and this might sound off topic, I am aware of conversion rates and taxes. But even doing the maths still it all won’t make sense. I’m not going mention that US customers get a bargain compared to EU customers (even though its true) but I do like to point out that you are currently letting your UK playerbase down. The UK is part of the same European Union and have the same tax regulations. For me as Dutch player, 21% tax applys. For a UK player the tax (A.k.a VAT is 20%)

That leaves the question:
Why do UK based players pay 111,52€ whilest the rest of the EU pays 100 flat rate?

If anyone has any answers to this, please enlighten me.

- Archi

I’m still looking for the Warrior and Engineer from the guild [KOBW] ‘Knights of the Blood Whish’ I will find your names, and I will sent in the recording of the cheats used to capture our Tier 3 tower. (On the Ruins of Surmia server)

Longview was completely T3’d. I checked all walls. Not a single scratch on them, when I saw you were inside fighting the lord, I’ve started a recording, ran past all doors and walls there were still 100% intact.

I’ve attempted to join their party to find out their names, but they probably knew we were onto them because they declined it over 30 times.

No mercy for the cheaters.

I’ve been outmanned on every map for the past two weeks =/.

All of Underworlds its WvW Guilds transferred elsewhere. Resulting in permanent outmanned buff.

We went all the way from a dominating server, to the server that gets completely dominated. I now see it is very discouraging, we’re dependant on PuG players, and they are not attracted by the little bonus Xp. Simply because we can’t get any Xp vs the massive zerg groups.

Deffenitly could do with a revamp.

- Archi
- Underworld Commander

Hi,

I’m the Narn Commander that sent the complete group after the single mesmer.

Reason for this it you’re attacking our camp. It’s how it works isnt it? You attack, we
defend. In this particulair situation, we wanted to hold that camp to upgrade our towers.

I’m surprised that Bloodstealer is still trying to talk me down :p

- On a side note, today at 11:36 A.M Our garrison, that was heavly sieged with 6-7 Superior Arrowcarts per gate was taken down by a group of 75+ Gandara with 12 Alpha’s and 4 Omegas. (Our defence was a mere 22 players)

I hope that Gandara felt like they have achieved something, in this particulair fight.

ThomasKreshant.6572:

Eagle.7208:

And you were not outmanned

You can’t see the buff anymore so unless you’re doing rapid counting of people you’d not know any more if someone is or isn’t outmanned. (short of lol spies ofc :P)

Read the line after that >:( I based it on the massive sea of red names that were standing on the walls. We don’t do Spies though.

Yawn…

Bring some of your guilds to Eternal Battlegrounds.. And you were not outmanned, we’ve breached the EB keep twice, and when we do that, on a magical way 80 Gunners appear to defend. When we decide to retreat from the 15 Superior arrowcarts build all along the wall, and we regroup. That blob suddenly dissappears again.

We’ve been farming Aldon, Klovan, Wildcreek from our Trebmist for the past 6 hours.

P.s- We loved the classical ‘Golems Hold’ attempt on Stonemist, I bet you did not expect us to be that many when you breached the inner door.

Arathor.7419:

cant you guys attack eachothers bl once , its a bit obvious attacking 1 bl at the same time all the time

Short answer; No.

Still horrorfied from Gandara vs Gunners Hold vs Underworld. Party on the Underworld map 24/7.

We’re not double teaming you at all. All we’re doing is pretending that RoF does not exist, and fire all we got on your map/side of Eternal. RoF is just being smart by taking advantage of that

- Archi The Cub [Narn]
- Eternal Battlegrounds Commander

Steelo.4597:

dont think that has anything to do with it since we had no guilds running when I lose Sm (i was commanding). Insane strong push, id even say the strongest ive seen so far.. How many Omegas and Alphas were this? And how many UW O_O I was ready for it and expecting golems since a long time, we had tons of ACs everywhere and i saw dozens of UW and most of the golems die, but still you simply walked over us into Lords room and capped T.T Wow i feel devastated atm.

Hi there,

It was a lovely fight, I was Commanding Underworld during that attack, 12 Alphas and 3 Omegas were used. We’ve attempted many attacks on Stonemist, but we were forced to use golems, simply because all your gates had 6+ Superior arrowcats, nailing my zerg. I figured, Omegas can fire over the walls and deal with your arrowcarts.

The fight to push you back to the lordsroom (where we wanted you guys to be) was a bit thougher though, we had to make 2 superior Arrowcarts to get you back in there. When we finally managed to get you back in, it was a simple matter of getting the TeamSpeak group to stack might and stabillity, to run straight through your group and deal with the arrowcarts. Hell, I doubt we would even have gone for Stonemist if it wasnt for the Treb attacks on Wildcreek/Klovan 24/7 >.<

Overall, we enjoyed the fight, I can tell you that. The arrowcarts were a bit of a pain, but we’re still standing :-)

- Archi The Cub [Narn]
- Underworld Commander

Steelo.4597:

so this is how it feels to play against a very high pop server xD Madness in EB you guys got queue 24/7? feels like going up against 3 busses with a bike :o our only chance to last a bit is getting Arborstone on the map with constantly pushing UW so we got a little time to breathe. Because those frenchmen are pretty mad after not having anything most part of the day xD Nice work UW commanders properly stacking and stuff, this is pretty hard for us this Weekend! And nice defense of SM, i hope it will get capped at some time in the week, seems not today!

Hi there,

Thanks for the feedback, truth is though, to respond that fast we had to work with multiple Commanders (Something we don’t do often).

During the day when we held the Blue Waypoint + Stonemist. We were using a 50 man group, a 20 man group and a few partys with 5-10 people. I admit that the coordination today was simply superb.

Stonemist was our main priority, but we tried to hold the blue keep as long as we could. Keep it up this week, I’ve been enjoying the fights

- Archi [Narn]
- Underworld Commander

Hi,

After all the posts I’ve read here about Open Field fights, and requests to not run/hide behind walls from all three factions, I have to say that what happened this afternoon on Underworld Borderlands, you all should be ashamed on yourselves.

The only group that fought us on open field, was Kale, one time. On the supply road from Mill to Hills/Garrison.

Then when we finally retalliate towards to FSP, attempting to retake our bay, I was shocked to find 5 Superior Balistas, 4 Superior Arrowcarts and 6 Regulair Arrowcarts, all aimed at the breached wall.

Aurora Glade, you’re even worse then FSP. Whilest we’re attempting to take our bay back with 65 players, vs 50-Odd FSP sitting on their siege, you came to Golem Rush the rest of our (Tier1/Tier2) map, 3 Omegas 4 Alpha’s. Yes, we’ve been tracking you all the way, but I (The Commanding player at that time) Decided to kill FSP at all costs.

Question, If both factions, Aurora Glade and Far Shiverpeaks like open field fights so much. And some “resistance” Why don’t you attack each other? It’s always Underworld Borderlands that gets hit by both groups.

Fact is, we can’t split our zergs to hold double Golem Rushes when both teams are superior to us in power/size.

- Archi

Aurora, you’re scarry! >:(

We received an outnumbered debuff last night at 3 A.M on Eternal Battlegrounds, and that whilest we had a 35 man group running around.

Today we as in the Underworld server, we’ve been slacking a bit, no queues, but it happens. Tomorrow you’ll feel our wrath. Gief that 2nd place back! >:)

~ Archi

Okaishi.8320:

So we get hit by about 10 omegas from AG at hills while FSP rushes Bay and Garrison, at 3 am. Nice little deal you’re striking there. Kind of pathetic, really.

From what I’ve seen, Aurora Glade has used 66 Omegas against Underworld in the past 48 hours. More then we use per month. I wonder if they got a vendor with extra discount >.>

With all respect to AG, but I’ve faced your group a few times today whilest Commanding on EB. It was my group this morning that fought at Klovan vs your 60~ people. It took 15 minutes, but we eventually broke through when FSP started to attack Aldon. I have to tell you though, that I’ve read complaints from AG that Underworld uses open field Arrowcarts, unfortunatly your server does so too :-(
More often then we do I fear, but hey, it is part off the game.

But please, don’t target the little ones with the big guns, those Omega rushes twice a day are getting annoying, eating a lot of our supplies, and none have succeeded against us (yet).

P.s – If any of you was online this morning when your T3 Stonemist flipped. We laughed very hard. Here’s what we did;

5 Superior Catapults on the sidewall near the Hylek area, we went to resupply, come back and the wall was down. Still we werent spotted yet, because I assume your scouts reported that Stonemist was fine, we were trebbing it for 2 hours, so thats why you assumed the trebuchets had contested it. However, the best part was when we rammed inner without resistance, you guys did not notice it until the X’s appeared in the lordsroom.

Yes, the EB group of Underworld this morning, we had a blast, had some good fights!

All I can say is, keep the fights coming, but reduce the Omega Rushing. It ruins your server image, unless you want to be seen as the omega rushing server.

~ Archi The Cub
~ Underworld Commander

I have removed my comment.

It does not belongs on the WvW Matchup thread, I’m sure that those who know me, know how I think about the diversity of our server, lets keep it at that.

On a serious note, I’ve had a lot of fun in Stonemist today, we just had to take advantage of Auroras attack on Stonemist. Sorry FSP, we could not allow you to turn it into Treb/Supplymist.

-Archi

Phoenix.3416:

Eagle.7208:

Am I really the only Underworld player who sees this as a week of horror?
We don’t cover anything during the week. These people put up resistance! :O
We only pull decent zergs against small servers, Ring of Fire & Blacktide, that week we had 3-4 maps filled every day.

I’m afraid this week its going to be :

Eternal Battlegrounds: Queue

Homeborder : 10 Defenders, the gummies, and when they ring the alarm bell we’ll pull off 50 to 60 reinforcements from our natnional reserves in Lions Arch.

Enemy Borderlands : Off limits. Our soldiers are not trained enough, and I havent seen any serious damage done by any of our guilds in a long time. No offence, but we have no extremly organised guilds, best we can do is dust off some SWD players and sent them to battle, but that’ll be 20-25 tops.

I don’t mean to offend any of my fellow servermates, but I command 6-7 hours a day, and I havent spotted any guilds yet that can match our oponents organisation, VcY couldnt even be dealt with with our pugs. I hope I am strongly mistaken, but I fear that the best we’re going to show up with is homeborder defence, and Eternal Battlegrounds blobbing in 70-85 man groups from 12:30 till 01:30.

I’m not experienced with Aurora Glade, but I fear we, a mainly pug server named Underworld, will not meet your expectations.

Ok, enough negatvity. I’ll see you on the fields of Eternal Battleground

-Archi
Underworld Commander

Yes Archi, you are the only person who takes WvW so seriously that you can’t have fun unless you’re winning or farming sm for wxp.

Who cares if its a stacked match up? I had a lot of fun attacking AG last night, and if FSP had showed up any sooner we would have probably had garrison flipped too.

You command 7 hours a day and you’re a guild leader but you apparently don’t have a guild that matches the opponents organisation so why are you complaining that the rest of the server aren’t at that level in your eyes either? :P Surely if you play so much more than everyone else you should have the most organised guild ever?

Seriously, Our guild brought at least 46 players to wvw last night to AG border, half of those have barely played WvW and wanted to play it in a large guild event to understand how to play, Although we got slaughtered after we lost momentum we took bay several times, wiped FIRE several times and generally had a ton of fun and the new guys got some training hours in, you don’t have to win all the time to enjoy yourself.

[Mayh] thanks AG for the fun we had last night :P we will have to visit you again soon

In response to your post, I’m not sure who you are but that put aside. You’re on Underworld, and I would love to have the biggest, best organised guild. There is one problem I struggle with. Every guild on Underworld advertises they do “Organised World vs World” It only splits up our forces more then it unites them. We have 0 guilds that consistantly pull out 20 or more to the battle field, day in day out.
We have 30 if not 35 guild thats all pull 5-10 people, some do 15. And usually they do their own thing, away from the commanders. If I’m not mistaken, we ask people to get on TeamSpeak every 10 minutes. Yet only 25% of the whole servers WvW population shows up because they are either in their guilds teamspeak, or they think that commanders should write. (you’ll see these arguements daily on UW T_T)

Also, I’m very aware that the forces of grenth alliance attempts to setup public training sessions for the pugs as has been discussed for the past 2 months, but when the event actually takes place, the attendance is a laughter. Spam the messages for so long, complain over TeamSpeak meetings that this server needs organisation and training, and yet the guilds don’t come.

At first I was not going to say anything because I do not think that guilds should be involved in arguments, but Mayhem, this is the first time in 4 Months that your guild shows up with a decent goup (Larger then 20) and you’re instantly bragging about how you pull off 46 members. Mayhem, you have never done anything else then attend the Reset events. The rest of this week, you will have no precense on any borders so shoo.

Once more, with all do respect to the other Mayh out there, many of my friends love to run fractiles with your guildies, but I had to respond to this sceptical post of Phoenix.3614.

P.s – “Farming Xp” goes for Friday Farm Day only, but I guess it is more fun to turn a Mouse into an Elephant right?

- Archi

Am I really the only Underworld player who sees this as a week of horror?
We don’t cover anything during the week. These people put up resistance! :O
We only pull decent zergs against small servers, Ring of Fire & Blacktide, that week we had 3-4 maps filled every day.

I’m afraid this week its going to be :

Eternal Battlegrounds: Queue

Homeborder : 10 Defenders, the gummies, and when they ring the alarm bell we’ll pull off 50 to 60 reinforcements from our natnional reserves in Lions Arch.

Enemy Borderlands : Off limits. Our soldiers are not trained enough, and I havent seen any serious damage done by any of our guilds in a long time. No offence, but we have no extremly organised guilds, best we can do is dust off some SWD players and sent them to battle, but that’ll be 20-25 tops.

I don’t mean to offend any of my fellow servermates, but I command 6-7 hours a day, and I havent spotted any guilds yet that can match our oponents organisation, VcY couldnt even be dealt with with our pugs. I hope I am strongly mistaken, but I fear that the best we’re going to show up with is homeborder defence, and Eternal Battlegrounds blobbing in 70-85 man groups from 12:30 till 01:30.

I’m not experienced with Aurora Glade, but I fear we, a mainly pug server named Underworld, will not meet your expectations.

Ok, enough negatvity. I’ll see you on the fields of Eternal Battleground

-Archi
Underworld Commander

We’re to late to do that this matchup =/. Plus Venn would totally disowe me for making Underworld look like a Golem-Rush server.

However, I’d love to do that sometime, but it needs to be properly planned, and we’ll have to find 50 dedicated Omega Drivers who don’t tank Cannon/Mortar fire.

We’ll do it soon though, promisses.

Wolfstrike Nl.1245:

Ray.2640:

Reminds me of an old picture from a previous matchup.

Uhm…yes apperently some lowered themself to this

Btw. Nice fights yesterday on EB vs. VcY. enjoyed it very much.
Tnx for letting me enjoy your fights vs Whiteside as well ^^ (mesmer standing on the side many times)

Also today in our Home border. VcY and Riot really woke us up there.
Looking forward to more of these fights.

On a sidenote,
Tnx for giving me a gravestone (ram/AC build site) when i was waiting on our thief to res me in sunny.

Bummer! You can’t harrass me in game anymore, so now you’re dropping to this level that you’re making forum posts Wolfstrike? Shame on you. I thought your guild officers told you to behave, or atleast leave me.

Let’s show the rest of the chat then too!

Shifty.3412:

Eagle.7208:

Hi there,

Lots of negativity on here >.< But I’d like to share with you that my guild [Narn] and I, we have been enjoying today. It’s one of our mini-events, Tower Defence.

Give us a challange We don’t like to lose, but we’re gonna give you a decent fight!

“Decent fights” while i can see 4 guild arrow carts, 2 guild ballista, 1 guild cata and a guild treb in that screenshot alone, that sounds SO FUN.

My idea of a decent fight, its 15 on 70. We’ll site in the tower with our 2 Guild Trebuchets, 3 Guild Cata’s 4 Guild Balista’s and 11 Guild Arrowcarts.

The challange for you is to take something precious, I mean isnt that fun to take something that someone else wants to hold?

Hi there,

Lots of negativity on here >.< But I’d like to share with you that my guild [Narn] and I, we have been enjoying today. It’s one of our mini-events, Tower Defence.

Give us a challange We don’t like to lose, but we’re gonna give you a decent fight!

Terrorsquad.2349:

Eagle.7208:

Oh Far Shiverpeaks.. What has become of your server..

From what I see, I see a big group of 12 year olds crying that our server, has fun getting Xp during the night. And then retalliates in the morning.

Have you ever wondered why our mornings are so easy to take? I’ll help you a little:

WE CANT PLAY 24/7

That means its just as pathetic to place screenshots of you recapping whilest we sleep after a long night.

Most hypocrite post ever.
PS: I mean you’re saying we retaliate for nightcapping? Ofcourse, so we take all in day and evening when NORMAL and most people are online.
Then I can say u retaliate for the “daycapping” we did..

This post makes no sense..

That’s the second time we clash Terrorsquad, last time you spammed PvD. I have a feeling that you’re the server troll of FSP and I’ve only seen forum posts. Can’t imagine the ingame cat.

You can say that, but we don’t retalliate for the “daycapping” because there is no such thing. We’re pretty good covered during the day, with exception of this moment right now. You have 10 golems on our borderlands with 50 defenders, and we have 10 people desperatly trying to defend. Wait, let me try this

PvD PvD PvD!!!!

Oh wait, I don’t drop to your level. Grow up. You guys complain like nightcapping is all free Xp, but in all honesty your night crew is also 35~ People. So learn to Arrowcart stuff. I mean I recall that there was a complaint about our arrowcarts. Learn from it and do it yourself.

All I can say is, we nightcap because a lot of our players are above the age of 20, work during the day, relax at the evening/night. So yeah, we might have less coverage during the day. But usually we hold fine and even manage to pressure FSP. Just the incident today of a bunch of angry players that saw their rating is gonna drop more.

Oh Far Shiverpeaks.. What has become of your server..

From what I see, I see a big group of 12 year olds crying that our server, has fun getting Xp during the night. And then retalliates in the morning.

Have you ever wondered why our mornings are so easy to take? I’ll help you a little:

WE CANT PLAY 24/7

That means its just as pathetic to place screenshots of you recapping whilest we sleep after a long night. We don’t have any American guilds or whatever as rumors go, its our daytime group making overhours. We play till 6 in the morning, then go to bed. And then your group comes online bragging about how good you are with 10 vs 60.

As for scores. Its a shame that I did not screenshot yesterday during the day when you lost Wildcreek, Klovan, Aldon and Stonemist at 2 in the afternoon. That would have shut up the kid a few replys above me.

Terrorsquad.2349:

Eagle.7208:

You can shove your “Bragging” up to a place where the sun does not shine.

Two nights in a row you had 50 man groups running all over our map. This time we retalliated, thats all we wanted to show, to show that you’re only getting ahead of us by that redicilous night capping squad that fortifies SM for you. And when you got Stonemist, you turn it into Treb mist.,Trebbing 24/7.

Arborstone has barely any zergs at all, they can’t pressure you, so its Underworld vs Far Shiverpeaks. And because we’re to busy with taking down your trebs 24/7 We struggle to pressure your keeps.

As for the comments on the Arrowcarts 3:1 outmanned – Fyi we had 30 people on the map. So unless you decided to run a suicide mission with 10 people to our garrison. Do not complain.

P.s – That roflstomping on your garrison last night, you lost it to skill. Not to a mega uber zerg. We took it after the game update with 8 people, me and Venn being two of them. Your server had 13 defenders inside, where off 2 of your guild FSV. So thats another theory going down the drain. We did not complain about those 3 ac’s firing at our 8 man party either. We reacted to it properly by standing back and building a guild cata to destroy your inner gate.

You would never have lost your garrison if your server wasnt so kitten squishy, it feels like your all glasscannons without thoughness.

Ok, I’m done. Now can we go back to a proper matchup?

~Archi

Go do your PvD at night.

Shrug
I’ll go Pvd and you start learning to read at night Ok?

I’ll quote myself once more:

We took it after the game update with 8 people, me and Venn being two of them. Your server had 13 defenders inside, where off 2 of your guild FSV. So thats another theory going down the drain. We did not complain about those 3 ac’s firing at our 8 man party either. We reacted to it properly by standing back and building a guild cata to destroy your inner gate.

You can shove your “Bragging” up to a place where the sun does not shine.

Two nights in a row you had 50 man groups running all over our map. This time we retalliated, thats all we wanted to show, to show that you’re only getting ahead of us by that redicilous night capping squad that fortifies SM for you. And when you got Stonemist, you turn it into Treb mist.,Trebbing 24/7.

Arborstone has barely any zergs at all, they can’t pressure you, so its Underworld vs Far Shiverpeaks. And because we’re to busy with taking down your trebs 24/7 We struggle to pressure your keeps.

As for the comments on the Arrowcarts 3:1 outmanned – Fyi we had 30 people on the map. So unless you decided to run a suicide mission with 10 people to our garrison. Do not complain.

P.s – That roflstomping on your garrison last night, you lost it to skill. Not to a mega uber zerg. We took it after the game update with 8 people, me and Venn being two of them. Your server had 13 defenders inside, where off 2 of your guild FSV. So thats another theory going down the drain. We did not complain about those 3 ac’s firing at our 8 man party either. We reacted to it properly by standing back and building a guild cata to destroy your inner gate.

You would never have lost your garrison if your server wasnt so kitten squishy, it feels like your all glasscannons without thoughness.

Ok, I’m done. Now can we go back to a proper matchup?

~Archi

And this is the nightcapping 30 minutes later

Regards from the Underworld Friday Farm Day group, we’ve had a lot of fun!

~ Archi The Cub

We’re still tower sitting Mendon haha, it’s our weekly Wednesday event

We pick a tower, upgrade it and defend it as long as we can. We’ve been struggling a little bit with the Trebuchets, but the Tower is repaired and still stands!

~ Archi
~ Battle For Narnia [Narn]

Lol at you hypocrit , its 18:30 and we just lost controll of the red keep that we were upgrading. Talking about our server using exploits. I can hereby confirm that your server most likely purposely exploited the area of effect loot bug. 30 enemys just glitched in through the door into the red keeps Lordsroom, a mesmer portal ported the rest in.

Our EB group is not really happy to see such exploitation, I’m afraid that you can except a lot of fire at your keep..

Good Morning,

I just had a whisper linking to this chat saying, “Good Game Cheater” I was pretty surprised, though it was a bad joke. Seems people seriously think that we purposely glitched through the door. For one thing, I was not the Commanding character at the time this glitch took place, I was on the map and I did see the chat where our team asked the people that ACCIDANTLY glitched through the door to please leave the keep and break the door as we should.

Screenshot proof will be posted soon, we’re just reading up the chatlogs now.

~Archi

Nuidivers.7614:

Hahaha. Best picture found for this matchup !

BRILLIANT! You made my day!

~ Archi

It’s the Danelon / Umberglade Dolyaks on the Route to Stonemist that are not spawning. We havent had a Dolyak in from that route for over 36 hours.

SM took a good few hits because of that, best thing to do, is like we did, take enemy corners and use their Dolyaks instead to fill up SM.

If you look at:

“This also includes disrupting other people’s game experience by not actively participating in matches in good faith, a.k.a leeching”

Underworld would be banned. The amount of times I run past our Spawnpoint having to see 20-30 people standing at Vendors/Waypoints, our server would be out of the WvW Match-ups in no time.

I do not feel that we were distrupting anyones gameplay with what in this particulair case has taken place during our matchup. Looking at it like that, I remember that our last oponents, AR camped our EB Spawnpoint for 5 days straight, would that mean you’d have to ban all their players? Because they are discouraging our players from playing.

We can keep speculating about what has been said and what has been done, but I do not think it will help any of us.

As for your conversation with this Arenanet Employee, I think that is based on case-by-case. I think that their rules regarding World vs World are to blurred to cover everything. You can not expect me after all to know that you have had an conversation with one of their Employee’s and expect me to know what I can, and Can’t do when it is not written in plain and understandable English.

Ok,

1. I’ve been searching for World vs World specific rules, I can not seem to find anything where it states that in the event of coöperating with a competative server, infractions/punishment will be applied.

2. Krall I think that you should drop your personal issue with me, as I have done to you. I PM’d you in-game asking where you read this article that states that coöperation is an exploit of the game mechanics. Until you can prove me wrong, I would like to ask you to stop calling me an exploiter as I am not doing so.

3. You have to keep in mind that, like I stated before, none of these things in chat took place, other then purposely let Dzagonur take the keep for map completion.

As for talking about the Rules of Conduct:

1. While playing Guild Wars 2, you must respect the rights of others and their rights to play and enjoy the Game. To this end, you may not defraud, harass, threaten, embarrass or cause distress and/or unwanted attention to other players. This includes posting insulting, offensive, or abusive comments about players, repeatedly sending unwanted messages, reporting players maliciously, attacking a player based on race, sexual orientation, religion, heritage, etc. Hate speech is not tolerated.

I find all this talk about me exploting this game harrasing. Ban plox? No, you don’t hear me about that either. Thanks for your cooperation by dropping the subject.

I have read the rules, closest I could find about World vs World was rule Number 22.
I Quote:

While participating in Plaver-vs-Player (PvP) gameplay, you will not participate in any form of match manipulation. Match manipulation is defined as any action taken to fix or manipulate the outcome of a match or alter or manipulate the rankings or ratings of the ladder.

I do not see how discussing the possebillitys of an event that yet has to, or not to, has to take place is exploiting this rule. In reallity it has never took place, and even if it would have, it would not have affected the outcome of the score, as we’re not talking about any kind of “alliance” or (semi)-Permanent treaty.

Hi there,

If I may, here are my two cents.

I was the person that was Commanding Eternal Battlegrounds at that particular moment. Being a Commander does not means that you automatically make decisions for others. You’re a rally point for players. Every player decides for themselves what they do and what they don’t.

Also, there are several factors that had influence at this particular moment, such as our players that were not in a good mood due to the WvW Xp Farm that the French server was holding on our map and Dzagonur, flip our map, move to Dzagonur, then move back to our map. Keeping everything wooden.

Also, we were not particularly pleased with the come of French Players that had joined our TeamSpeak to give away our locations earlier that day. I know this is not a reason to “bond” with the enemy, but to be honest. None of this ever took place, the chat would show different. But in reality, we never cooperated in any Karma/WvW Xp farm.

The only thing I will admit is that we did give up the green keep to the Dzagonur group so they could get their map completion. That being said, I would like to state once more that each and every WvW Player has a free choice to participate in anything. We can not, and will not, force you to take part of any actions that you are not completely supporting.

~Archi The Cub

P.s – Next time post the whole Chat, not only selected screenshots. Makes me look bad you know :-(.

Whatever the maths is behind it, it is wrong. Underworld is Matched up against Agury Rock and Fort Ranik. Fort Ranik, we have fought them many times before on our little PvE server, but who’s redicilous idea was it to put up a Rank 7 server to a Rank 20 server…

AR – 70+ players on every map 24/7
FR – 50Home 50EB

UW- 40 Home 70~ EB (When we’re doing alright) We are a PvE server, that means when we have nothing, none of our PuG’s show up, and we barely have any WvW Guilds on EB, hell we don’t even have a home defence. How can you possibly put our servers up against something that is by day covered by French players and by night French Canadians. I really think this system needs a rework, because it has discouraged our whole server from bothering with WvW.