Guild Wars 2

don’t see the problem tbh…
there is who farms ore/wood/whatever and sell them, aswell there is who sells a run in a dungeon for ppl unable or lazy to do it…what’s the point?

as thief i can suggest u: roll a warrior….is just a “range melee tanky dps assassin mage tank support” class

and thk god u can’t be an healer like in other mmo, or would ends up with a team composition like:
– 1 aggro tank
– 2 dps
– 2 healers

so boring since a team fight would last years.. :/

Maugetarr.6823:

Burnfall.9573:

So i bring the Truth to you

Today while in wvw, i was hit with 6, 323 Heartseeker and 16,935 Backstab by none other than thief.

Seriously,

how much more truth we the victim classes need to once and for all, put Thief class on trial for their merciless and barbaric crimes?

Last night I hit a ranger for 7.8k. Most of my backstabs hit for 5-6k. On guards and wars occasionally I hit for as little as 2-3k from the back. The problem is the build, not the thief.

same here, but with same class
found a lvl 80 necro running around and backstabbed him for 9k (i had only food, no bl or stacks).
then found another lvl 80 necro but my backstab was only around 6k.
Now, since my stats didn’t change, is up to your build and buffs

what: Thief class name
why: ppl hate it so much, this lead us to understand that is indeed op

c’mon, we all know that sanduskel is the best thief!

Atm i would say Yishis , even cuz thk his videos i’m improving little by little with mine.

messiah.1908:

immobilize can be cleanse easily as the meta is condition spec so everyone has 1-3 condition removal
you can stack up to 3 stacks so up to 9 seconds but if you get blinds /evades etc like above you cant do anything with it
so mesmer just blink away, thieves shadowstep, warrior and guardian invulnerability, ele mist away, engin invulnerable and ranger die
so you have to use it smartly like any other skill

GL

poor ranger D :

are 2 different things.
ppl go for cosmetics cuz are the only way to make your character unique and different from other ppl (with mix of armor, weapon skins and colors), but i don’t see many crying cuz legendary is too expensive (the problem here is another, the way to obtain it that isn’t legendary, but is another matter), or that cultural is expensive, and so on…are anyway something they wanna do as OPTIONAL.

the same are the ascended armor, at least for the upgrade they provide…for such small bonus are like a cosmetic tbh, an optional that isn’t needed at all.
if instead ascended armor they would have added a 7th armor slot, with 11 primary stats, +5 second and +1% third, would u have spent almost 150-200 golds for unlock it, and 100 for craft such bonus (and 100g everytime u want to change it)? i think everyone would say “hell no”.
even if u consider the bonus from infusion slots, still too expensive for what provides, in u check ingame real impact.

well, but he said at same time he want to dedicate 3k gold..
for do 10k forges with exo, with 3k golds u do way way way less forge :P

uhm, but 3k gold for 10k try..i think he uses rare or he would end up with way less forges

but well, is partially grindy tbh
ascended armor atm are just doesn’t worth the cost/benefit compared to exotic.
the cost for 400-500 + recipe only already put them out of business, unless u need them cuz u want to farm fractal over 50 level.

- spvp isn’t affected
– dungeons aren’t affected at all, u gain what? maybe 10 sec clear time of a path
– wvw is almost like the same; is just skill dependant when it comes to a difference so little of bonus

the problem is just ppl that want to make them asap, don’t even thinking about their cost and what will happens when with next patch (or the next further) they could have to change spec and equip in use (another reason why ascended armor are not worthy in cost/benefit).
then, everyone’s choice

If u think that GW2 is a grindy game well…u haven’t even tried Lineage2 :P

Shadey Dancer.2907:

Remember, when it comes to stealth, Just use the first rule of fight club, that worked for over a year!

u just broke it!

they could have done like this:
– single gathering tool 20% discounted
– pack 25% discounted

by this way, who already have 1 or 2 tools, could buy the one he needs, while still the pack being more attractive for those want all of 3

ioni.8146:

P.D: There would be NO SCAMMING in the game if the Trade Post would be TAX FREE. Its so simply Anet. Of course, that wont happen. XD

a tax is necessary, or ppl would use TP like as personal bank, putting large stock of items in sell for like 99999999 gold.
plus, it helps the market flexibility, since u can’t just outbid no stop without risk.
Althought, maybe 15% is a bit too much, 10% would be fine imho

just learn to move when a thief stealths, and don’t stand on the spot like a turret. This already give u a high counter vs a thief, since will have a rly high chance to miss a backstab = no damage.

dunno if downgrade material will be done in a short period; would lead at tons of free money if u think at other materials where costs are pretty close

they should just balance silk scraps needed for the damask, and make simply that light armors require cloths, medium leathers and heavy metals…
would both reduce the silk scraps required from people (tons of war/guardian not buying it = more supply = cost should drop), and put some value to other mats, that still are pretty useless since the launch

while i don’t agree with such behaviour (the scammer’s one), at the same time is totally the scammed one that is in fault, for trust someone else.
Is not the first game where ppl just take money and go away, if some1 is dumb enough to get scammed well, he deserves (a bit rude to say, but it’s the point..)
There is a TP? then use it.

but would be nosense evading or blocking something u haven’t even idea is going to happens…is metagame :P

kelman.9451:

Marcus Greythorne.6843:

When I first heard about stealth in GW2 (I think it was long before Beta) it sounded more like this:

When you’re hit in stealth, you will be revealed for a short amount of time. Dots will reveal the stealthed character as long as he takes damage from it.

Wouldn’t this be a more interesting stealth-mechanic and more fun to 90% of the playerbase? What do you think?

and this is how it works in WoW last I remember, and how it should be I agree.

and as rogue on wow i can tell you: right, but on WoW we have:
– perma stun almost
– 2 incapacitates for 10 sec
– interrupts spam
– disarm
– magic debuff removal and immunity for a short period
– perma heal uptime
– sprint that no other classes have
– perma slow on hits and heal reduce
– teleports
– high evasion uptime for phisical damage

is a totally different class that one…tons of survivability, damage burst AND controls, and if u want u could almost perma stealth like here, but with so much tools is useless; rly i see more a threat a rogue on WoW than a thief on GW2 lulz, but is nosense u want to compare them..

u have stealthed enemies in pve, but again, they are IA enemies and they won’t teach u anything for a pvp situation, where is all up to your enemie strategy.

the best way is always to dive yourself on the ring and fight, but like in everything vs other ppl (the same is with every sports, both teamwork and individual based)

before adding a new weapon, they should start to rework the already existing ones, like P/P above everything

Marcus Greythorne.6843:

Easlay.3297:

@marcus: give up on WvW after 1h is nosense; means they are not suited for player vs player games, but just for limited player vs IA opponent games, that are easy predictable to deal with and rather boring.

I’m sorry, but you don’t know my friends. I totally get that, if I had been in the same situation – encountering good thief-players when still new to WvW – I probably would have left too, especially since it just looks overpowered.

(they got trolled pretty hard and never made it to the zerg)

i joined WvsW for 1st time during the D/D ele gold age and got stomped pretty hard aswell, and was looking rly overpowered from my pov.
reason? i was totally a newcomer and a noob, and like in every PvP game, u have to pay that by get tons of kicks before learn how to walk

@quizotic:
that depends on the spec; with 12 ini u can hardly spam 3-4 shortbow #5 in subseq;
plus in combat, if u increase the cost to 8-9, u would just push ppl to take as a must trickery tree for +3 ini for have the shortbow still effective as a mov. speed/escape tool.
increase the #5 cost to shortbow and then? what’s left to this weapon?
already we can’t hit anything from walls in WvsW since cluster bomb range nerf (almost everything is out of range).

count that if we have a good mov. ability is even thk our lack of boons and stability, and do wvw without stability is not rly that comfortable; nerfing the thief movement (still inferior to warrior’s one), then u have to give him something for keep his survivability at decent levels.

note that not everyone is running S/D + shortbow….if u make your argument just around a single weapon set then what are we speaking about?

regarding stealth: if u are not aware of a thief incoming and that 100-0 then both you and him are glasscannon, no sense cry that a squishy assassin just get stomped by another squishy assassin…
but if u are not a glasscannon or u see the thief incoming, well.. after some time get rly easy to predict the thief movements :/

the point is always the same:
– nerf thief mobility, then u need to give him something for compensate his lack of survivability, since he lacks of boons and stability
– nerf stealth uptime (that would not be bad), but then just have to rewrite whole thief gameplay and give him some cc/survi utility, or would be just like a warrior with lower health, lower armor, slightly lower damage and not sustain cc and boons
Maybe we would finally see a P/P rework in that case..

@marcus: give up on WvW after 1h is nosense; means they are not suited for player vs player games, but just for limited player vs IA opponent games, that are easy predictable to deal with and rather boring.

this stealth op would explain why thief is the most popular class in wvw and spvp.
oh wait…it isn’t…

as the “insane mobility and teleports”, we have way less than an elementalist, mesmer or a warrior c’mon…if a thief spam the #5 of bow then is just for an escape, so isn’t a threat since would be out of initiative after 2 teleports

i use the shortbow quite a lot and i’m fine with it;
yes, maybe lacks some damages, but provides a great source of kite/escape.
The only thing that rly bother me is that i can hit almost nothing from walls now, when i have to defend a keep or a tower, cuz that insane short range on cluster bomb (maybe the projectile a bit faster would be good too, but main issue is that we lack of range for hit anything under our walls)

what: Thief
why: better nerf thief

feel ya….right few min ago i was in WvsW with my thief (not glass-cannon, a bit balanced) and busy fighting 3 ppl when got smashed on the ground in 1 hit.
Checked on combat log and found a 17,6k kill shot.
Oki that i have only 2600 toughness and 16.9k hp, but rly…..now warriors are even better than thieves at snipe/assassinate :/
at least a glasscannon backstab thief, if u have faced before, u manage to dodge the backstab after mug+CnD even if u didn’t see the thief incoming, but this killshot, meh…

what#1: shortbow
why#1: insane damage, miles ahead of warrior bow/rifle damage. Plus the cluster bomb needs a shorter range; is so high that i can defend the the garrison from my war camp :ae:

what#2: stability
why#2: we have too many boons and stability perma up, need a nerf or a buff on other classes :ae:

another good feature could be a filter for type of armor when u search them.
I mean:
– heavy
– medium
– light

@encarton: for that bug, just click outside TP window and then click again on the TP window, it works for me =)

Dayra.7405:

Kingface.9781:

Junkpile.7439:

Kingface.9781:

I’m just wondering Junkpile, do you have any respect for YOUR server?

No really. It’s just server where i am playing. I could play somewhere else, but it’s same kitten everywhere. It’s probably even worse in servers which have strong community. They always try to tell what to do. Viz is probably hell because of troma.

Ok. That’s enlightening a lot of things. I feel sorry for the other part of SFR’s community.

Interesting. For me Junkpile is the prototypical SFR-player since ages. He shaped my picture of how SFR is. Are there people on SFR that think and post different? If yes, why don’t they publicly disagree to him?

cuz we are busy to fight in borders for try to rewamp the sfr pvp spirit, instead of spend hours on forum looking for some excuses that won’t help the server ;P

dominik.9721:

Nice! Go on Vizunah ! You show clearly that you are the better server than SFR and the number 1.

Greets from Kodasch

i think there are more than u expect
I don’t rly care if vizu and piken are teaming up or not honestly;
i’m having fun on borders, since we have no time for breath that our keep or tower get ganked again and again (ex on PSBL during week end at bay+briar).
Yep, could be a bit frustrating since u say “kitten , give me a break!” but hey…we are doing our best with what we have atm, so is fine; it means we will do even better the last week we fight back =)

the only and real annoying thing are the neverending queues…but think we all have and everyone agrees that anet should do something on their hardware system -.-

yep, still 800 gems for transfer to mid and 1800 for high-populated.
so i think will be up tomorrow at this rate, even if the lack of announce on the forum is kinda strange

is just luck..a friend of mine got:
– the legend at 1st try (using rares)
– dusk after almost 10 try (using rares)
– 2° the legend from chest
and he was playing for like 2 weeks..and has like 1700 gold and is rdy for get his legendary

me instead got nothing after tons of try :V

u need to consume 55’000 uses before u are even..that’s like 550 orich mining pick..
Atm not worthy at all for me :/

29 rares —> 41 ectos
while yday 6 rares —> 2 ectos
just a matter of luck…try deal with it :/

what I see is just some1 has a stock of ectos bought at an higher price than now and can’t sell for profit..

but that’s not a problem linked to maths, but to players wanna make gold asap; can you blame them? nope, is their choice after all to get less money but immediatly instead wait for get some more.
For crafted items, players are those that decide the price to be lower than craft maths, not some1 else
Honestly don’t know what Anet should do about this; u can’t change a whole game feature because ppl behaviour; limit stocks to sell would increase price of low cost maths since u need lot of them but will have lower supply (plus drop more often than high tier maths)

The BLT is fine ikittennow how move yourself; just as example, i went from 4 gold to 60 in 10 days just putting buy and sell order while i was studying (and my profit was just 2-3 copper per item sold).
If u have no idea of what to do is just your problem from my point of view, but some suggestion read here are funny and nosense at all, like if someone would say “limit each path in dungeon once a day, or they farm too much items/gold”

this is not WoW with soulbound items once picked up (most useless thing imho).

as of the Feb 26th patch, we need new downed skills too..
skill #3 was a joke before this patch (u die before is rdya almost all the time, in both pve and pvp), now is like haven’t at all in pve;
couldn’t think u would be able to make it more useless, but i were wrong :/

my only question is: with this stealth change, what’s the point of our already useless skill #3 while downed?

can’t sell in BLT anymore.
This afternoon i logged during lunch and put some sell item and everything went fine;
Now i logged in, retrived the gold but when i try sell something else i get “Error attempting to sell”

already did a try with close client and try again, but nothing changed

kessex hills and here you are…
– defend the bridge from centaurs (5 min event)
– slay the 3 centaurs liutenants (immediatly after the 1st one, 5 min event too)
– slay the centaurs boss (immediatly after the 2nd one, 5 min event too)

3 events in like 15 min, and when the 3rd one is done, after 5 min the 1st starts again.
total time for 5 events ~ 25-30 minutes

VAT is a tax u have to add when chaning from euro to dollars.
no matter what, u have to add to prices showed in $ for find out how much in € costs