Guild Wars 2

I’m having a fun time with this build as well as having fun messing with tweaks on it. Thanks for sharing!

Necromancer.

Name: Ethereal Effect U.S.

twitch.tv/etherealeffect

^ This man and his awesome posts.

In my experience, the best time is to always blow it early, than too late. But be smart about it, obviously. There have been many, many times where I had a ton of bleed stacks, but the target went down and there went my Epidemic spree.

If you can get around 8+ stacks, and you’ve got a chance to do an epidemic, do so. It’s too easy to miss out on chances sometimes, because once people notice 10+ bleeds on them, they panic and try to cleanse it.

Also try dagger in your OH, you get another bleed skill out of it. However, personal preference, and whatever works for you.

Axedeo.1874:

Can’t believe this is hardly getting any attention… I’ve tried this build last night and i love it so much, i’m gonna stick with it for a while.
I actually managed to beat 2 thiefs in a 1vs2 with this.
I was defending clock tower and had put 2 marks down. All of the sudden they go off and i see 1 thief beating the crap out of me. I dogde away, put 3 marks down, dodge again and switch weapons. By this time the thief has 14 bleeds on him and i see his friend joining the “fun”, so i hit my Epidemic and dagger offhand 4&5 and i switch to DS so both of them now have roughly 16 bleeds while i’m in DS using Life Transfer.
What you see most thiefs do when they get low on health is they try to stealth away. But with all those bleeds, they didnt even make it to the edge of the platform that is the control point of clocktower… There is see their 2 helpless bodies on the floor looking at each other thinking “what the hell just happend!?”

It has it’s drawback with all the condition removal, but with this build, you can reapply bleeds so fast, it’s very VERY viable in spvp.

I’m happy to see more Necromancers doing the same thing, haha, but sometimes it was fun back then to see them get confused at all the damage I could dish out compared to them.

Yes, the best thing is finding thieves a few feet away downed from all the bleeds I’m happy you like it and are doing great with it. Life transfer with all the bleeds is my favorite thing – So many numbers.

I still have problems against classes like the Engineer, though. They seem to be immune to conditions.

Zero Neutral.7341:

Yeh, well there is a fine line between bumping your own thread and spam…

Good luck and good hunting.

Well I’m not trying to intentionally spam, but I guess I did get a bit overzealous. So you’re right.

I enjoy helping people, that’s all I was trying to do.

Same to you, though. I meant what I said earlier about finding something you can enjoy, if this isn’t it.

Zero Neutral.7341:

Also, how many times can one person pimp their own thread??? Just sayin….

Pimp. That’s a new one, haha.

Enough times to let people see that it’s not all dark and dreary. Some people don’t look all the time, and make forums asking questions, when others have made answers all ready. I’m also finding links to post in this first post as well, to help direct to where help is being given. I’m trying to help others. If that bothers you, you can continue going on a trolling spree and contributing nothing yourself.

Zero Neutral.7341:

Whatever man, any negative opinions on the class are deleted by forum mods any way… I was infracted for my post so therefore only happy-go-lucky ones like this meet the light of day…

Necros need a lot of work.

The mod had the nerve to state that, “Just because I don’t find a class to be fun to play doesn’t mean that it’s broken.”

That is NONSENSE. I find the Necro VERY FUN to play but it IS broken to an extent! That is not fair… but w.e this one will probably be deleted too.

Every thing is rainbows in Necro land.

I’m sorry

To be fair, we all know by now they need a lot of work. Things like the user-made Necro bug thread is what lead to some of the fixes, which is my main point.

It just doesn’t do much to shoot everything down without trying to find ways around the immediate problem. It’s annoying to have to do that, but at this point in time it’s necessary. There are ways to play effectively.

Haha Rainbows in Necro land. I wish..:/ Sincerely.

No, it’s not all rainbows, but there are ways to be effective and ways to not completely suck.

It doesn’t do anyone any good by going around and shooting down other player’s attempts to enjoy the class. There are genuine people here who want to help you and others out to have great/fun builds and enjoy the class that you probably were hating about five minutes ago.

This post isn’t entirely any better, as its the same concept of posting/whining., so I apologize for contributing.

However, I just want to say it’d be nice if we could all pull together and work TOWARDS fixing the class, and make viable builds. It’s all said and done, and pretty much everyone in the Necro community knows the class has problems. We’re slowly getting fixes, but it’s not all horrible experiences. The few tip’s I’ve given to people in game, and in my thread are helping those who have second thoughts.

There are others, as well, who like to help and offer some insight.

Ex Force’s Competitive Necromancer Guide.

It’d be nice if others could do the same, instead of shooting down other player’s incentive to play the class they want to enjoy.

Anyway, /rant. I’m sorry again, but I felt like it needed to be said. Even if I’d like to think it’s common sense.

tl;dr Stop being a kitten. <3

Well I know others who would disagree, but there’s nothing to be done since you’ve got your mind made up.

You could always play Spamseeker? Lol, jokes aside.

Teknomancer.8475:

Why do we get 5-10 different posts like this per day? OP I’m sorry but you aren’t stating anything the rest of the community doesn’t already know. You aren’t providing any opinions or feedback on how you propose to change us for the better.
Most people here play their necros because despite the flaws we enjoy the class. I am sorry you are having a hard time with waiting to see how Anet wants to fix/balance/change this class. Perhaps you might want to play an alt while you wait to see how the class will turn out?

<3 this post

Zero Neutral.7341:

Oh boi u so nice… comes off as condescending tho…

I forgot to mention that even if your bleeds are successful at taking someone down, when they go down guess what? Free cure of all conditions on them… then it’s back to stacking and no hope of spreading your conditions from a downed opponent…

Leaves the enemy team free to res their ally while u have to stack more bleeds only for them to be removed yet again.

I was genuinely saying that. It’s frustrating not being able to play the classes you want to play. I find different ways ways to enjoy Necromancer, but it’s not for everyone obviously. Not trying to be condescending… sorry if you take it that way.

An early epidemic is always better than a late one, but if you’re by yourself against 2+ players, you’re probably going to get kittened. Necro plays best with others, but it’s not like it’s easy finding an organized team to help you out.

Go into tPVP. Necro is not viable. End of story.

Ah.

I wish you luck, I suppose, and hopefully you find something you enjoy playing.

Zero Neutral.7341:

No, sir… this class is not good at anything.

In fact, all aspects of this class are trumped by other classes.

It is the truth, a lot of people realize it and are jumping ship.

There will always be a few people who will say, “It will get better,” or, “Everything is fine l2p.”

I agree that fighting an Engineer is more or less the most annoying thing to come across, give or take some other heavy condi moving Professions.

I don’t think I want to go as far and say it’s completely useless, though.

Edit in response to your new post:

It is a lot more difficult to apply bleeds, yes. I get your point.

Zero Neutral.7341:

So, wasting your dodges to try to stack a bleed on a target, which is futile since they will be removed, is a good strat?

I am sorry, I’ve been gaming for a long time and I know a broken class when I find one.

It sounds like you don’t want to try other options. There’s problems with the class, there’s no denying it; however, there are builds that work, and this class has a higher skill cap to play well than others because its broken.

Zero Neutral.7341:

Nova, please… I didn’t ask for a video pimp.

I’m expressing simply that Conditions are far, far too easy to be removed by pretty much any one with some sense.

I originally thought I read you asked for videos, I’m sorry. But it’s still a guide for a build that stacks conditions, the video wasn’t the main purpose of the link.

Conditions do get removed, but it’s so easy to stack them back up again with this set up. Assuming you’re constantly switching weapons, dodging after the ICD. Same with Death Shroud.

Zero Neutral.7341:

I am not interested in other videos as I have had my own experiences.

In tPVP, just about every class will remove the conditions that you worked a good 5-10 seconds to begin to add to your target. Once they remove your conditions, you are now at half health and falling fast, but they have eaten your conditions and are still packing damage on to you…

This class is sub par at even stacking bleeds.

In order to stack bleeds, one must also hit every skill shot… miss one or have one evaded just leaves a decent cd where you are being trashed by other classes and btw, they have already removed your bleeds.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/necromancer/Fun-with-bleed-bursting-Video-Guide-Build-Some-Tips/first

Has a lot of ways to stack bleeds, it might be what you’re interested in. Just trying to help

lorndarken.3702:

bloodmancer, minion master , cursemaster , ds , hybrids , such a underpowered class !!!

Let me direct you to my thread. This build is very promising if you’re feeling underpowered. It takes some set up, but yeah.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/necromancer/Fun-with-bleed-bursting-Video-Guide-Build-Some-Tips/first#post325415

lorndarken.3702:

seriously , it makes no sense to play a under powered class all to see it dwindle into crap with the amount of bugs that prevent the necro from doing its job.
and i dont want to be put in a corner on how i should spec my necro , but lately it just seems like with each patch they " fix " 1 thing they end up breaking 10 more things .
for example , spiteful spirit is a trait i loved when it worked. now it is bugged thanks to this latest patch .

i wonder how long it will be until all the bugs for the necro will be fixed . cause the more and more play it , the more i just rage quit .

How many other builds have you tried out?

Yes, we’ve got bugs, but it’s slowly being fixed. With some of the recent fixes, there’s certain builds that do exceptionally well.

Asmodean.5820:

I am currently interested again in power builds after using a tank build and later a condition build. My question is, what runes do you use and which ones would you use on a crit power build?

Thanks in advance

Divinity would be my first choice. +10 to all stats + Crit damage.

Scholar maybe after that, as it gives Power and Crit damage.

I was in the same boat as you for a while, but I’ve found builds that are actually really fun. It’s very active, and can dish out a lot of damage in a short amount of time. It’s what’s keeping me playing Necro right now. We continue to get bug fixes, and that’s opening new doors for us to use the traits that were looked over before.

Such as in this thread I made.

I hope you might find some fun with it, and see some insight to the new possibilities the Necromancer has, and will have.

Cempa.3645:

Take a look at this build:

http://www.gw2build.com/builds/simulator.php#1.5.2.7.13.0.1.30.30.0.106.118.125.127.129.4.4.1.304.0.0.317.322.326.332.338.0.346.0.0.0.0.0.10.30.20.10.0

Blood is Power / Corrupt Boons take your pick!

I think I’d take Corrupt Boon and switch out Epidemic for Blood is Power. It’s a hard choice though, as Epidemic can win a team fight no problem…I guess it’s all to be done with experimenting. Very unsure what I’d choose.

I’ve seen a lot of Condi builds take the Flesh Golem over Plague Form, but I’ve never tried it for myself. How is it?

This looks fun though, I’ll have to toy around with it. Thanks for sharing I’ll try it later today when I have time and let you know how it went.

Kaius.3785:

Just wanna say thanks for sharing that build! It’s awesome.

Necro isn’t my main but I spend all my time in pvp and I was getting a little disappointed with the Necro class. Despite that, I still feel drawn to Necro because I prefer the dots playstyle. Guess what? Tried this build and went on to win 6 matches in a row with 4 of them, I was top scorer all thanks to your build.

Granted, this is in sPVP but it seems to rock especially in teamfights when you immediately get those 14 stacks of bleeding up across the enemy team. They just melt, haha. Even had a thief whisper me to say wtf when he tried to spam heartseeker on me and I killed him with his low hp.

Can’t wait to spend more time with this build.

Just to add one more thing, I used epidemic and corrupt boon. Swapped out plague signet for Blood is Power and the result was amazing. Big fan of the new change now.

Seriously? That’s awesome! I’m glad it helped you. That kind of stuff makes me happy.

I will not give up on the Necromancer. We keep getting bug fixes, and it’s still got a high skill cap. I believe things like this, with the bug fixes, we’ve got more ways to find out how to be a better player. The class isn’t as broken as people might think, we’ve just got more difficult ways to set damage up. This build is perfect for me, and you as well it seems, haha.

And yes, some people won’t know what happened to them, it’s hilarious. Spam to win can fall prey to this easily. However, Plague Signet is like your bread and butter. I’d recommend keeping it, as the stun break and swapping conditions can mean the do or die in a fight against someone, like a GS Warrior. Your choice, though! If you’re having great success with it, by all means.

Epidemic is always helpful, but maybe experiment swapping that out for Blood is Power?

I also might experiment with a Power Build now that we have might stacks. Happy killing!

Jknifer.6803:

I play almost the same build and style with a few differences, thanks for sharing this because it has given me a few ideas, especially that nice combo you open with. I use different gear for an extra 40% bleed duration from runes and sigil.

I’m glad you enjoyed it! As I’ve said, personal preference, but the main purpose was to help people expand their styles of gameplay.

Ahh, that’s what I did a few times, but it seems like people are better about managing conditions, so I go for a mix, (hence nightmare) so I don’t lose out on trying to dish out damage, but still having some duration.

Cempa.3645:

I like it, its really nice. Please clarify your reasoning for for taking Enfeebling Blood over 20% longer bleed duration.

Inflict weakness and bleeding on foes in the target area.

Enfeebling Blood:

Damage: Damage: 168
x1 Weakness: Weakness: 10 s
x2 Bleeding: 10 s (850 damage)
Radius Radius: 240
Range Range: 900

Radius of 240, you literally need to be on top of the player and Weakness you can add with your current setup.

I think I’m confused.
Do you mean the scepter trait? Because I have Hemophilia, but not the 33% + duration for scepter bleeds. Unless my build link is incorrect…
Enfeebling Blood from Death Shroud is just preference, but it goes with the point of the build; to stack more bleeds in a short duration. It’s only a couple of more bleeds, but I actually never have a problem of being close enough to get it off. I guess it just goes with my aggressive playstyle.
Dodging to get the Mark of Evasion Proc, THEN using Death Shroud to get the fear off will open the gap back up once my initial set up is done. In that time, if you’re quick it’s also how you get your Geomancer sigil procs.

Thanks for the tips, man. I’ve been having a lot of fun using dodge offensively, and being more active with Death Shroud.

Okay, SOME tips. Sorry for lack there of.

Original credit to Yesterday.1753 for giving me the tips.

• Not made with the recent changes such as “Blood is Power” in mind. It could help out the offensive effectiveness of the build, so it’s your personal preference.

Here’s his original thread that should have gotten more light on the subject. He explained things a lot more thoroughly than I will.

Traits for more bleeds.

It’s a start in the right direction for being more offensive, and action oriented. I’ve found myself being more active in what I do, and how I play with this style of build. I really, REALLY, enjoy playing this build and I hope others may find these traits enjoyable as well.
It can be improved, of course. All things can, and this build is no exception.

The main traits are “Mark of Evasion” (in Blood Magic), and “Weakening Shroud.” (Curses)

To those of you who may or may not think you may or may not be offensive enough and want some more tricks, here’s the build I’ve been running:

http://www.guildhead.com/skill-calc#McVczm9MmwnLMmwnLM0xxa0mMkMkRc8kiT7khd70z7070z7kNL70m7kuB7ow1

I’ve also got a video explaining it a bit, and a few clips of fighting at the end if you’re interested in that as well.

• Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-Ex4AOJbB0

• More gameplay; full match: http://youtu.be/Ma22yNSYWzY

I’m not a pro-commentator, or an expert. Bear with me.

So far it’s the most fun build I’ve played around with, and the build I find myself having more success with than other builds prior to this one. As I state in the video, it might just be because I know the build inside and out better than me taking one from another person and trying to make it work that way.

The best way I’ve found to start off is by opening with Staff.

• Marks -> Dodge to your opponent -> Death Shroud -> Weapon Swap -> Grasping Dead/Enfeebling Blood. You should be (on average) at about 14 bleed stacks, give or take.

Anyway guys, I hope you enjoy it, and maybe even find it useful. Please feel free to leave suggestions, etc below.

Happy hunting!