I must be missing something here. DB was going to move up to T2 without transfers. DB would have been stuck in that irritable tier 2.5 mess due to their lack of coverage. DB got more guilds to stay in T2. That’s what the situation is right? That’s how i understand it. DB worked their way up here but i cannot say that they wouldn’t have put up a good enough fight to stay in T2 because i didn’t get the opportunity to see that DB. Instead i get to see this version of DB and i can only assume from what posters from DB have said that without the guilds that transferred to DB they were not ready for T2. What’s the problem?
Were you not around during TC/DB/Mag back in early March? Judging by your post history, you were. That is the same DB that was moving up to T2. That is the same DB I mentioned in my previous post. That is the same DB you just said you did not get the opportunity to see, which you clearly did.
What’s the problem? The problem is almost all of your posts towards Dragonbrand have been in regards to “wagonbrand” as you have so fondly dubbed us and getting on us about our recent transfers despite not “being ready for T2.”
Perhaps you should be recruiting players if you find the populations imbalanced.
You said that in the TC/DB/MG thread way back in March, and that is exactly what we did in order to be competitive in this tier because we knew from TC/FA’s multiple visits to T3 that we were too small for T2.
So why do you keep going on and on about Dragonbrand not being ready for T2 without transfers but then Dragonbrand getting “bandwagoned” ?
Although mildly entertaining at best, your posts and quick jabs at us don’t really come off as “all there.”
Because bandwagoning is what happened. So what?
DB bandwagoned from T2.5 to T2. I don’t get why that is so grossly horrible to so many people.
Ty for abandoning us on reset night [Agg]…sorry you had a few problems with ques, but we branded fight for the server, not our own personal reputation…..
I think you may have found the wrong home
Love AGG here on DB. I do not share the above opinion…
“Working together” code for ‘taking turns being bored’.
Yeah you deserve to lose if you can’t find enough people willing to be bored. Maybe they should install latrines in the towers and you need to find people to wash them, because hey that’s keeping it real.
I know this may come as a total shock but not everyone finds this boring.
Some people like the excitement of knowing that an attack could be coming at any moment. Some people just like helping their team even without a reward. If it isn’t something you are interested in then don’t do it. But you’d be surprised how many people actually enjoy scouting for their server.
Volkon, I’m thinking this update was more focused on the small teams. This way, they can have 30 more seconds before a zerg might notice what they’re doing…
Stop crying.
Vash, this helps zergs MORE than small groups because zergs will have a higher siege budget and make larger uses of 30 seconds.
If a zerg is big enough, you’re not going to stop it. Wait- now you can build arrow carts that have an 80% damage buff to shoot down a zerg. These are indeed balanced updates. Having good points and bad points is to be expected with any update.
Vash is making way too much sense. I see multiple threads complaining about how everything is going to flip immediately (This thread) and about how nothing will ever flip (AC threads)
I’m thinking maybe I’ll actually play the game and see how it works before freaking out.
I see people saying that stuff will be too easy to take because of the 30 second lag on notification and at the same time others saying the AC change will make things impossible to take.
Sounds slightly like balance to me.
Overall I’m very excited about the patch notes. Can’t wait to get in there and see how it all works out.
Plainly winning is fun to some people. They don’t care if they won fair or if it was hard.. They just want to win. Like the people who set every video game they play to the lowest difficulty. I don’t think it’s that strange that people enjoy logging into a game each morning where they get to win for 4 to 6 hours.
If you aren’t capping 695 then there is always something still to do. I’ve been around during these mornings and even though there are far fewer defenders they are still there in certain areas to fight. This morning is the first time this week that it hit these extreme levels for such a long time.
I think the whole pvd gets blown out of perportion and it does a disservice to the guys who exist and are out there trying to stop the DB swarms. They are out there..
CD is losing guilds now and it appears the DB will pass CD in rating. Kain should be able to roll the weakened CD with Yaks next week.
Kain’s huge test is still 2 weeks away. It is a long way to predict but a Mag/FA/Kain fight should be absolutely fantastic in 2 weeks. Unless DB can manage to spoil the party by performing very well next week against Mag and FA.
Either way things in T2/3 are about to get very interesting with Mag and Kain smashing into them.
You get depressed when you expect to win and get rolled. Hopefully DB players will go into next week with the mindset that we expect to lose and not getting blown out will be a win for the server.
Either way it will be an outstanding match up next week for all servers involved. Here’s hoping we don’t see a mass DB exodus
You know that match ups change each week right? If they are winning by that much they will leave the tier and you won’t fight them anymore. Just be patient and it will get sorted.
Looking forward to fighting in the mighty Kaineng and the NEO alliance. Hopefully we can give you guys a more competitive game than the lower tier servers have been.
This must have to do with balistas doing extra damage to siege. If you were inside of a golem and got hit by a ballista would the combat log read that way?
Over time the Tiers will finally start to even out and we’ll end up with good close matches. You don’t need to be higher ranked to have fun in WvW. A good close game is where the fun comes from.
I too would like more PvE events in WvW.
I’m certainly not a fan of pure PvP, but in WvW where there’s things to do other than just killing some other player (JP, Patrols, Events, Champions) it feels more natural than only one type (PvE or PvP).
I would actually love to get more PvE contents (like the dragon discussed).
As in a real battle, when a greater evil than your actual opponents shows up, you gotta turn for it or you’ll all die. It would be very nice to see a castle being assaulted and during the assault, an horde of undead comes in to wipe everybody :-)
PS : Sorry to the hardcore if I don’t like my game close-minded
It’s not about being close minded. Most people want only pvp because no matter how advanced your coding is a PvE enemy will be scripted. There will only be so many things it can do before we have completely figured everything out about the enemy then it becomes incredibly easy. When fighting other players in pvp there is constant change of strategy. You may come across the same situation multiple times but have to use a different method to solve it. Fighting players adds complexity and difficulty. With the player limits on the map if people are focusing on the raid bosses then we don’t have enough players to defend our keep or tower and end up losing it. This is frustrating to the pvp crowd because we had enough people to defend but they were all killing a raid boss that only drops 5 badges but keeps thirty players preoccupied for 20 minutes.
The challenge comes when you combine the 2. Yes the boss may be scripted and incredibly easy but what if the other team tries to steal the kill at the end by wiping you when the boss is low?
What if killing a boss spawned something that helped the PvP players like an attacking dragon on SM or gave them all a buff for 10 minutes. There are options that could make PvE players help the overall realm score and keep things interesting for all parties involved.
It’s been said many times but if you want just straight up PvP you already have an option for that. WvW can be so many things if we combine the 2 together. I hope they do it to the point where the 2 sides actually enjoy working with each other and appreciate what each side enjoy. (Sides I’m talking about are PvP and PvE)
The problem comes when the PvE doesn’t help the Realm score. If the new PvE elements help the realm overall on the scoreboard then I’d welcome it with open arms. Events can liven up a game that has grinded to a halt. They could add new strategies to attacking and defending and they would give PvE centric players a way to help their realm and be part of the team.
@Exits
/agree with what ur saying. pushed during primetime but problem yaks is having is EB BL is every color but theirs yet they have a larger zerg in Yaks BL than they do on their own homeland. EB pushing one side of the map while Drag pushes the other. Its Wv3, got it, no problem. But some strats being used dont make sense, almost as if EB is helping push points to Drag. Cuz anything EB takes Drag is flipping shortly after cuz its all paper. And watching Drag zergs run right past EB folks without attacking, then rolling 2-3 Yak folks in the same spot is also funny.
Here’s a pic to show what im talkin bout. =)
1 – Drag has the camp and in there in force, soon as yak hit them..EB shows up and slams into Yaks breaking the attack. Neither EB nor Drag attacking one another. sigh
I was over there with the EA crew at that fight. It’s funny because we were wondering what EBay was doing there as well. We fought them and you at the same time. There was no 2v1ing going on in this instance. It was some good old fashioned 3 way action.
Ebay was just there to fight. I mean they didn’t have the camp or bay and there were plenty of other targets on the map. I guess they just wanted to fight which is always cool with me.
So many tiers have so many good close battles going on even this week. I think the system is working well and a system that didn’t account for margin of victory would be a lot more dull than the current system.
Yes sometimes there are blowouts and sometimes servers stay in the same tier for too long despite winning or losing consistently but I think a better solution would be to increase the amount of rating gained and lost instead of going to a generic system like the one stated.
The discussions about the match up have been very entertaining in this thread but the talk between LARP and OG are completely dull and I can’t imagine anyone outside of those 2 guilds care at all. Can’t you 2 take all these self important kitten measuring contest posts to some other thread where people don’t have to pass over them to get to some good wvw talk?
The OP made it sound like the breakout event CAUSES the siege to disappear. Which is why I was confused.
But yes it is hard to defend siege disappearing because it wasn’t used. But if it didn’t there would be mountains of siege everywhere. I’m not sure if that is better.
Server ratings have very little to do with the strength of individual players on a server. It is a reflection of the overall strength of an entire server over a 24/7 period. If the other 2 servers are significantly weaker during a certain period than another server then they are a weaker overall server and will have a lower rating.
People take these ratings to mean a lot more than they actually do. Everyone on Dragonbrand is not automatically better than everyone on Yak’s just because the server won the week. It’s a team effort.
If your team is losing points while you sleep then there really isn’t anything you personally can do about it. Maybe try to recruit into that time slot? Or try to set up more defenses when you are stronger so when you are weaker your guys have more to work with? I don’t know if those things are already being done but complaining about the other teams coverage doesn’t do anything to fix the situation.
I’ve had those spawning without using any kind of ram or anything and it doesn’t put the WP in contested state. I’m not defending this bug just saying that it doesn’t completely nullify a WP. If it did do that then it would be game breaking and you see a heck of a lot more QQ on the forums about it.
We don’t. I don’t know where and DB player has ever said that we don’t have an outstanding Asian Presence. We just take offense to the claim that NA prime is awful and we are just being carried when the scores don’t show that at all. Go look at the scores again. EB and YB keep acting like DB is ticking 50 all of NA primetime every day and in the morning we are ticking 500+. It just isn’t true.
