Guild Wars 2

Scoobaniec.9561:

Ansau.7326:

@Ravenmoon I don’t have the problem, maybe you have fps issues and that’s why you have such a bad experience, but that doesn’t mean the game runs really crappy.
Also, I was talking performance at same speeds. Your 2500k at 4.5GHz is like a 4690k at 3.8GHz.
And about the rest, that shows how little you know about improving fps. Yes, pcie speed increases fps (tested). Yes, ram speed increases fps (tested). Yes, some graphic options have massive cpu load with minimum graphic increase.

If I have time this Easter I’ll do some tests in my desktop about all this kind of things.

I have i5 4690k overclocked to 4,6ghz and i experience fps drops for no reason and overall performance is bad. All maxed except shadows on medium, culling on lowest i still have troubles keeping this joke at 60 fps. So if you dont have any problems you must be running on minimal..

Finally somone telling the truth.

No God exists never has never will. (obvious troll) watch people get kitten im gunna start counting till somone quotes me with RAGE!!! rawr.

Religion as a whole is the cause for hate, world wars, Yes i said World wars its a fact. Leave that stupid kitten for sundays and off of video games cause lets be honest nobody gives a kitten. lol

sorudo.9054:

firstly, let me say that the reason why it already took me a long time to go from XP to WIN7 is because i hate the whole “let’s change everything and restrict access” crap.
also, as long as any of the newer wins are made for tablets and NOT for the PC it’s a no go, keep your android on the phone, i want an actual windows OS.(and one that doesn’t use up over 2GB RAM space, win XP only used 450-500MB including my own programs in the background)

secondly, DX isn’t something you can just put in the game overnight, it’s an integrated system specifically made for the engine.
if an engine is based on 1 certain DX, making it compatible for a newer version means they need to completely rewrite the core of the engine.
if you have a car engine and there is a different engine with better performance, the only way to improve the car is to completely remove the old engine and place the new and improved one, you can’t just put parts of the new engine an the old one because it simply doesn’t fit.
it works exactly the same way in game engines, an engine build around DX9 can only handle DX9, anything newer doesn’t work.

LOL coming from somone who works on Old Muscle cars with his Dad and is very well Mechanically Inclined i will inform you an engine swap can be done in a weekend you make it sound like its a Year long job LMFAO. also its not the same thing.

Theirs a chat “Filter” and a “Block/Ignore” Option for a Reason Use it.

Arenanet needs to take engine creation classes from CryTek Team, and of course the CryEngine itself. You wanna talk optimized and modern API and taking every edge of performance a high end pc can dish out and that engine will take it and run like glass. It’s a Beautiful thing

tom.7468:

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Ravenmoon.5318:

Ansau.7326:

@ravenmoon That was a UI bug fixed in a very recent patch, it’s not a valid point to argue about performance issues, as the problem has only existed for a few days in the whole game history, and it was a bug.
About the cpu, there’re 2 things why 2500k struggles a little bit. First is single core performance, haswell has ~13% more power, and second is pcie speed, which gw2 really takes advantage of it (z77 is limited to 2.0 x16).

And why people keep mixing things? This goes for you Scoobaneic.
Just because a frog is an amphibious doesn’t mean a horse is able to breath in the water.
The same happens to game engines. Just because a single player non-online game has acces to it’s code (so people can make mods, adapt it to newer apis…), doesn’t mean a mmo game, like gw2, can.
If you want to make a point, tell me which mmo have open code,so people can play with it…

Its still active. Just popup full inventory and let me know if you get any FPS hits.
Also, I’m playing every other MMO on ultra graphics with my machine at 60+ fps
Battlefield and Dragon Age: Inquisition go with more than 120 fps.

Don’t compare my CPU to stock clock Haswell please. With turbo boost it goes even further than 4.5GHz. The liquid cooling keeps the thermals low.

Also, there is no consumer GPU available today that can max out PCIe 2.0 x16, even though they make them PCIe 3.0. I made the research before sinking $500 for R9 290X. It is not being bottlenecked by my chipset. There’s no difference in 290X running on 3.0 or 2.0.

Again, WoW is using proprietary engine. They’ve updated their renderer. It didn’t const them an arm and a leg.

Either way, in long term, old renderer is only going to cost them more. You know, taking their time to optimize stuff, it adds up to cost. I can’t begin to fathom how many iterations of HoT maps they’ve done before they had something that gives decent FPS. And that costs time, and time is money.

Regardless, adding another rendering pipeline would greatly benefit the game IMO. Many people agree with me. If they write abstract code, it should be easy for them to at least get Dx 11 running. Which does have multi-threaded renderer setting. Which would greatly benefit the more powerful machines.

If people get only 15 fps improvement, it will be wort it. The difference from 25 to 40 fps is HUGE and quite noticeable.

P.S: There is a time in programming where you just have to bite the bullet and upgrade your tech. Because maintaining old tech, more often than not, gets more expensive as the time goes.

This guy took the words right out of my mouth, GW2 would definately benefit from a 64 bit client and obviously modern API i can’t count how many times ive tried to get the dev’s attention about this but its about time people started sayhing somthing we’re not in the late 90’s anymore kids windows xp is no longer and anyone who games on xp should be shot and kittened on because of their own stupidity. it isnt an excuse anymore guys.

Im using windows 7 im not going to spend 300$ to upgrade because they no longer support backwards compability also windows xp is my second favourite OS.
I dont know why this is such a big deal either i were running directx 11 in archeage but i coulden’t see any difference at all and people were experiencing memory leaks so most people were using standard dx9c anyway.

I played Archeage since beta and for almost a year after with my SLI 760’s on DX 11 and a oc’ed and delidded 3570k 4.5Ghz and the difference between it and gw2 as far as fps drops and big events was like night and day stop support lazy dev’s that can not and will not take the time to update the engine you guys make it out to seem like its to exspensive and to time consuming yet people this thread have shown you MANY examples of other games old or new that have done this without issues and it didnt cost them an arm and a leg.

Ravenmoon.5318:

Ansau.7326:

@ravenmoon That was a UI bug fixed in a very recent patch, it’s not a valid point to argue about performance issues, as the problem has only existed for a few days in the whole game history, and it was a bug.
About the cpu, there’re 2 things why 2500k struggles a little bit. First is single core performance, haswell has ~13% more power, and second is pcie speed, which gw2 really takes advantage of it (z77 is limited to 2.0 x16).

And why people keep mixing things? This goes for you Scoobaneic.
Just because a frog is an amphibious doesn’t mean a horse is able to breath in the water.
The same happens to game engines. Just because a single player non-online game has acces to it’s code (so people can make mods, adapt it to newer apis…), doesn’t mean a mmo game, like gw2, can.
If you want to make a point, tell me which mmo have open code,so people can play with it…

Its still active. Just popup full inventory and let me know if you get any FPS hits.
Also, I’m playing every other MMO on ultra graphics with my machine at 60+ fps
Battlefield and Dragon Age: Inquisition go with more than 120 fps.

Don’t compare my CPU to stock clock Haswell please. With turbo boost it goes even further than 4.5GHz. The liquid cooling keeps the thermals low.

Also, there is no consumer GPU available today that can max out PCIe 2.0 x16, even though they make them PCIe 3.0. I made the research before sinking $500 for R9 290X. It is not being bottlenecked by my chipset. There’s no difference in 290X running on 3.0 or 2.0.

Again, WoW is using proprietary engine. They’ve updated their renderer. It didn’t const them an arm and a leg.

Either way, in long term, old renderer is only going to cost them more. You know, taking their time to optimize stuff, it adds up to cost. I can’t begin to fathom how many iterations of HoT maps they’ve done before they had something that gives decent FPS. And that costs time, and time is money.

Regardless, adding another rendering pipeline would greatly benefit the game IMO. Many people agree with me. If they write abstract code, it should be easy for them to at least get Dx 11 running. Which does have multi-threaded renderer setting. Which would greatly benefit the more powerful machines.

If people get only 15 fps improvement, it will be wort it. The difference from 25 to 40 fps is HUGE and quite noticeable.

P.S: There is a time in programming where you just have to bite the bullet and upgrade your tech. Because maintaining old tech, more often than not, gets more expensive as the time goes.

This guy took the words right out of my mouth, GW2 would definately benefit from a 64 bit client and obviously modern API i can’t count how many times ive tried to get the dev’s attention about this but its about time people started saying somthing we’re not in the late 90’s anymore kids windows xp is no longer and anyone who games on xp should be shot and kittened on because of their own stupidity. it isnt an excuse anymore guys.

Fanboy’s will be Fanboy’s keep protecting Lazy Dev’s and we will continue to game with OLD API WOOHOO!

LMFAO, If you think Guild War’s 2 is “Grindy.” go play ArcheAge now that is a “Grind.”

Direct x 9, Dev’s need to stop being lazy and building games around this OLD as kitten API good lord arenanet.

Launcher freezes way to fail anet.

Lemme set an example here and this game is no where near recently released and if you wanna do the typical “omg its not a mmorpg” not the same going on during game play ill have you know their is no game even to this day that will put any new comp on its face like crysis 3. “fps/mmorpg” or not i don’t give a kitten. crysis 3 has more graphical kitten going on then any game i have ever played and ill have you know ive played alot the point is “Crytek and the CryEngine” is somthing to be admired and it kitten well is for obvious reasons it will take verything your computer has and take “Full advantage” of every edge your hardware has hence the well rounded polished game play and engine bravo crytek.

here’s a screenshot i took multiplayer 1080p, “Very High” maxed right out. thats including AA MSAA. take a look at those frames for my hardware and the engine its VERY obvious this game is a pure perfect example of a well polished game.

Screenshot
http://ft.trillian.im/65ad944360c14373d72684e0cebcd371bf15fa8e/6rjiuIks8Bw8q3OEaQhLs3gFntGpC.jpg

And to hop on another note. the famous excuse about “Oh they did that for a bigger player base LOL.” anybody who has windows xp with hardware that old kitten well knows they should NOT be gaming at all i have to many friends with old hardware and dont have money to upgrade but yet even THEM have atleast direct x 10 that excuse is becoming old and hilarious. direct x9 was released in 2002.

Not to mention gw2 was built off the original gw1 engine they didnt even rebuild jack all all they did was amp the graphics up and particals etc and some how thought an engine from gw1 could handle and perform well with such an outdated engine that was originally built to run well on gw1 and old direct x 9 and then you take that engine and crank the hell outta everything graphical wise etc and massive amounts of kitten going on including players and expect a old engine that was made for gw1 to run well please fan boys wake the hell up.

The game is poorly optimized regardless of where its heavy cpu/gpu side it won’t ever matter cause even if it was either or a poorly optimized game is a poorly optimized game, period.

It seems fine to me 59-60 fps everywhere in dry top.

It’s to bad that “Sierra/Dynamix.” isn’t around anymore those were hand’s down the best bunch of dev’s ive ever seen that cared about their product and talked with the community that played their games one on one and fixed issues immediately and it didn’t cost anything i will say and continue to say they were as good as it ever got as far as devs in my honest opinion. oldschool.

Avelos.6798:

Sorry buddy, that’s not gonna work either. This is how an MMO works. If you don’t like, that’s too bad for you. I am also going to just… not acknowledge your messages now.

Oh well that’s cute here’s a “CryEngine”, “CryTek” that’s a new upcoming mmo! made with that engine BUD. only in china right now and in beta but ill tell ya right now it will run like a dream smooth as glass with proper core/thread balance and modern and up to date direct x support and of course the best of all the cry engine which talking from experience runs like a dream. and avid gamers on pc KNOW this.

^CryEngine MMO thats still in beta and only in china as of right now this is what a well polished game engine looks like be sure to keep it in your pants pusscake.

ArenaNet needs to PAY “CRYENGINE”, “CRYTEK” to teach them how to optimize ill get hate for this one but to bad truth needs to be told lol and i know im gunna hear oh but ones an mmo and ones a fps ive played mmo’s and fps back and forth that will run circles around GW2 as far as optimization goes so that excuse to me in invalid.

It’s quite simple this has been argued till we’re all blue in the face Guild Wars 2 is “Unoptimized” and needs a drop down menu to choose from “DirectX 9” to “DirectX 10-11+” support this has ALOT to do with the fact that big zergs get raging low fps amongst other things. Guild Wars 2 is coded in OLD kitten technology regardless of when it went into creation. theirs zero options for people that benefit from modern direct x! let alone Guild Wars 2 cant balance multi CPU/Threads worth kitten.

Well… I can already hear the “Heat Weenies” coming to say im wrong but this is “fact.” 80c on a GPU is getting warm but no where near “Dangerous” GPU’s are built to hold up to “95c – 100c” before you should really be kittenting your pants. i would pull the gpu apart check for dried up crusty “Tim” [Termalpaste] on the GPU itself next id check the fan as the above stated and check your case make sure all case fans are running and havnt come to a random stop! believe me this happens without people noticing! if its hitting 90c within the first hour yeah that’s a bit on the hot side for sure but 80c? that’s fine Im running SLI and my 760’s will somtime’s tap 75-80c which is COMPLETELY normal.

But to continue check those first couple things and also depending on your case the way the case fans are all positioned wether your not getting enough balance between positive/negative air flow could be a reason ambient temps can affect EVERYTHING inside a computer so maybe measure ambient temps usually a good case with good air pressure will sit anywhere from 5-10c above ambient room temp depending on your setup etc. some are as low as 2c above ambient ive seen on some peoples setups which is rad but yeah go through everything and give it a blow out with some compressed air would be my last resort if all that fails id RMA it.

Welcome to DirectX9……hahahaha!

It really comes down to “Personal Prefrence” i personally run SLI Gigabyte GTX 760 OC’s Windforce X3

Behellagh.1468:

Explaining why it happens isn’t an excuse.

Do I think it should be looked at? Sure. Is it realistic to expect ANet to put the development time and money into it to re-code it to significantly improve performance? No.

Then again they may have been working on it for the last 18 months, but they won’t say anything until they are ready to roll it out. Otherwise it’ll be “is it done yet” over and over again on the forums.

Well put man, i agree with you however i can understand peoples frustration with high end custom build machines like mine which i built myself yeah i play gw2 no issues what so ever

But with that being said me being a pc builder myself and i love doing it its a hobby of mine i will say i can notice when a game could be alot better and gw2 is definately one of them.

Regardless of being CPU bound or anything along them lines im tired of hearing excuses from fanboys the game is poorly unoptimized this has been discussed a billion times to sunday and its also in Direct X 9 and before these fanboys come in and say its for this reason or that its 2004-2005 Technology on a modern game that NEEDS direct X 10/11 AMONGST MANY OTHER THINGS.

It can be many of things but definately not the game. Coming from somone who runs SLI nVidia Gigabyte GTX 760’s OC Windforces that both dump heat into the case rather than a traditional blower style gpu

However it can be the way the fans in your case are configured, not enough positive/negative air flow not balanced properly it can be the card needing new fresh tim(thermal paste) it may just be dusty and need a blow out it could be your ambient tempatures open a window? it could be the case’s design that is poor for airflow. It could be the fan(s) on the GPU failed or the fan curve by default is weak and needs to adjusted try a few of those.

I have 2x SSD’s in Raid 0 and loads are fine for me.

Haha here comes the cry babys so much mad. gawd.

The game is unoptimized and people are gunna point fingers at your system no matter what cause they’re fanboys and don’t wanna admit to the fact that this game has “yet” to be optimized sadly…

This is why i play more Battlefield 4 on my pc cause even though gw2 may run pretty good for me its obvious its unoptimized so ill just go play a better/funner game.

Point is the games engine is coded poorly, it doesnt take advantage of multi thread/core cpu’s atleast not properly. it doesnt take advantage of modern Direct X… it’s just plain and simple sad it could have been alot better. But as far as i know it wont change and A-net doesn’t seem to care so… that’s okay ill move on to another game not a big deal to me lol.

Feirlista Xv.1425:

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Feirlista Xv.1425:

Optimized is to generic of a term it’s more of a buzz word people like to throw out when something is not working for them. yes the game runs on an older version of DirectX and may need to be tweaked a little but the game on a whole runs fine. People are having issues yes but for the most part those issues get sorted out with a little work and most likely turn out to be something with there system. I have been playing this game since beta with no issues. You will not get top fps but you can get reasonable playable fps. I get 30 to 45fps in LA and 60 to 80 in explorable areas. I don’t PvP or WvW much so no sure what I get there but anything over 30 fps anywhere is playable. If you are old enough and grew up back in the day before HDTV you all watched TV at 30fps and HDTV is 60fps so getting over 60 is overkill in a video game. The game is not photo realistic is more like good animation so why is everyone so bent on fps if you get playable levels then play the game, if you don’t then there is an issue with your system NOT the game.

Dude please im tired of people making excuses for A-nets failure to optimize a god dman game. Direct X 9 is a huge part of it running like crap it runs pretty good for me but look at the setup im running nobody should need that to max this game or hold 60fps at all times thats kittened. if they re-coded it in direct x 10/11 it would balance cores/threads properly or alot better and graphics cards or newer generations could take full advantage of more modern versions of direct x but instead its people like you that are like OH NOOOO ITS NOT THE GAME OR HOW ITS CODED OR PROGRAMED ITS YOUR COMP dude… please go the hell away thats a joke… this game is plain and simple unoptimized and alot of people know it and then theirs the special bunch who wanna cover it up and say oh no the game runs great lmao yeah maybe if you’re running what i am or higher which alot of people dont have money for and shouldnt be needed to play this game smoothly.

Wow and that’s why I get good playable 30 to 80 fps on my i5 CPU and GTX 650 graphics card because the game on old DX9 and is not optimized I can play and I’m happy with it because I know how to set up a PC to play this game

Haha, oh that’s cute coming from you…“Because i know how to setup a PC.” dude…. look below (At my signature) as do i sunshine built and bought myself i can build and setup a computer as good as the next person considering this thing pulls BF4 Ultra 4x at 130-180fps, and Crysis 3 maxed right out at 60-90fps… get a grip buddie that isn’t the point oh it runs good for me.. yeah thats fine it does for me as well but why the hell was guild wars 2 coded in 6 year old direct x 9 technology? lol… or however old it is regardless its stupid their could have been an option for Direct x 10/11.. let alone have you ever watched how gw2 balances cores/threads it doesnt simple as that you idiots can come in here and say this and that the point of it is i have played alot of games as well as other mmorpg’s and GW2 is by far terrible as far as optimization goes it reminds me of Hi-Rez’s attempt at Global Agenda it was also badly optimized and the entire community knew it. yet you come on here oh i get this and that i don’t give a kitten what you get fine yeah that doesnt help anyone else that has issues with this game PROVING that is is unoptimized i don’t need to go any further on this cause the proof is in the pudding sunshine….. theirs been to many complaints and proof on this game being unoptimized and you come in here all white knighting like its not get a grip…. you’re hilarious.

Feirlista Xv.1425:

Optimized is to generic of a term it’s more of a buzz word people like to throw out when something is not working for them. yes the game runs on an older version of DirectX and may need to be tweaked a little but the game on a whole runs fine. People are having issues yes but for the most part those issues get sorted out with a little work and most likely turn out to be something with there system. I have been playing this game since beta with no issues. You will not get top fps but you can get reasonable playable fps. I get 30 to 45fps in LA and 60 to 80 in explorable areas. I don’t PvP or WvW much so no sure what I get there but anything over 30 fps anywhere is playable. If you are old enough and grew up back in the day before HDTV you all watched TV at 30fps and HDTV is 60fps so getting over 60 is overkill in a video game. The game is not photo realistic is more like good animation so why is everyone so bent on fps if you get playable levels then play the game, if you don’t then there is an issue with your system NOT the game.

Dude please im tired of people making excuses for A-nets failure to optimize a god dman game. Direct X 9 is a huge part of it running like crap it runs pretty good for me but look at the setup im running nobody should need that to max this game or hold 60fps at all times thats kittened. if they re-coded it in direct x 10/11 it would balance cores/threads properly or alot better and graphics cards or newer generations could take full advantage of more modern versions of direct x but instead its people like you that are like OH NOOOO ITS NOT THE GAME OR HOW ITS CODED OR PROGRAMED ITS YOUR COMP dude… please go the hell away thats a joke… this game is plain and simple unoptimized and alot of people know it and then theirs the special bunch who wanna cover it up and say oh no the game runs great lmao yeah maybe if you’re running what i am or higher which alot of people dont have money for and shouldnt be needed to play this game smoothly.

This has been said to many times, the game is Unoptimized simple as that.

Probably the worst optimized game as of now imo, cant balance handle cores/threads properly. coded in kittening direct x 9….. llike LMFAO what is that ahahaha yeah this game is bad end of discussion as far as optimized goes

lol, you’re cute this game is terribley unoptimized its been proven time and time again why is there no direct x 10/11 support why does it not balance cores/threads properly why does it not take full advantage of SLI/crossfire why do people with system like mine or better or a bit worse have nothing but fps issues thankfully for me its DECENT but no where near where it should be especially for my setup.

I have a faster setup than the guy that started this thread and people have faster setups than me alot do this isnt the problem the problem is this game is coded bad, cant balance cores/threads or take advantage of them properly, let alone its in Direct X 9…… LOL

This game is unoptimized simple as that.

Avelos.6798:

Nary Why Irk.8150:

Yea and i7-4770k haswell is not one of the best processors? Lold

No, it is. :B
OP’s experiencing some sort of issue that is holding back his CPU. Their FPS should be double to triple what he gets on high preset.

kitten kitten kitten ! i’m getting real god kitten tired of people pointing fingers at hardware its not his cpu or anything to do with his setup. Do you realize this game is probably one of the most unoptimized games out there to date. its coded in kittening Direct X 9…. why? pure stupidity and it should be in Direct X 10/11 and it also cant take advantage or balance cores/threads properly its the game and it needs to be Optimized PERIOD. wake up people…

well what needs to happen first and foremost is the simple fact that the game was coded in Directx 9 which is stupidly old and outdated and they should have been coded in directx 10/11 to begin with that has alot to do with frame issues let alone the game is also unoptimized its crazy and they continue to ignore the issue its no wonder people are getting upset about it STILL.

well put it this way im running a 3570k ivy bridge oc’ed to 4.5Ghz on liquid 16 gigs of ram 2 SSD’s hd’s in RAID 0 and a 6970 2 Gig and i hold 30-60fps usually but it should hold 60 almost everywhere and it dips to effin like 20 in LA which sure is busy but this game also micro stutters like a kitten its just unoptimized nothing you can do.

This game is Unoptimized like hell realize a few things it is not your cpu/gpu anything of the above the game is coded poorly its also a 2012 game in Direct x 9 which is BEYOND kittened. it doesnt take advantage of multi core/thread cpus or balance them properly and Arenanet refuses to do anything even after it being a year now they just ignore the issue.

Hey guys, not really an issue here but more of a question ive noticed through the past month that gw2 has been using all 4 of my cores and using alot more cpu than it used to which i dont mind i find great (this is according to my core temp gadget on my desktop) i have dual monitors so i watch its usage while i play and the usage has increased over the past month which for me has made the game run better

Did arenanet finally optimize it a bit or? aha the cpu ive got its a 3570k at 4.4Ghz on H100 liquid. lemme know if anyone else has seen their cpu usage go up alot recently or if its just me thanks guys!

The game is extremely un-optimized, needs Direct 10/11 Support and coded badly, and doesnt know how to take advantage of multi-core/multi-thread cpu’s or even how to balance them properly. that is the reason as to why.

Game is unoptimized, needs direct x 10/11 and coded bad and doesnt know how to balance cpu cores, threads properly or even use all cores or threads.

If i hear the excuse “Oh its a cpu or gpu bottleneck” on a decent cpu or gpu i swear ill slap you idiots lol. this is the game being coded and optimized poorly and needing to be in direct x 10/11 and it ALSO not being able to take advantage of multi core/thread processors.

Good day.

Okay stop making excuses for Arenanet on why this game lags/and fps drops. this is none other than unoptimization, no direct x 10/11 support and the game is coded badly it is not your computer man.

this game is unoptimized, coded bad and needs dx10/11 said it once and ill keep saying it until these people listen.

Previous patch, Also the game is un-optimized, needs to be re coded and be in Direct X 10/11 instead of dx 9 lol….. alot if not ALL of the performance issues with this game are due to the above and anyone else to say otherwise is a fanboy.

It may be a bit on his graphic card side, but also ALOT due to this game being once again very unoptimized.

Game is unoptimized

The game is CLEARLY coded bad, unoptimized and needs to be in dx 10/11 but arenanet doesnt care. said this a million times now. if you people want this fixed then we need to all get together and make them notice so they FIX IT.

Join the party man, I’ve been trying to post about this and mods on this forum keep silencing me for stating nothing other than the simple fact that this game is in desprete need of Direct X 10/11 support and to be re-coded cause the codeing is terrible and to be fully optimized but seems to me like they wanna ignoire the issue and keep pushing out new content and stuff that yeah sure is cool and all but pay more attention to things that are FAR more important and so far they have shown that they quite simply do not care what so ever its pretty unfair.