Guild Wars 2

hi guys im interested in learning this class since i lose to it more than any other class lol. I was wondering what the current meta build(s) are.

Thanks in advance!

lmao bg is looking into the fine print and terms and conditions. What’s next BG, a class action lawsuit for punitive damages and such? lmao….ohhh you guyyyyys.

why is hambow still considered the go-to? Can someone please link me some post-patch builds that are tried and tested? arcing arrow nerf, pin-down nerf, crit damage nerf. Maybe im missing some rune/sigil/trait combos but i just dont see how this is still the best build? Enlighten me.

‘we play for bg tears’

[OP] on JQ runs daily

as long as the game mechanics favor larger numbers, nothing will change.

yes or different color pins or something..come anet this is a few simple lines of code.

yeah i even have people from BG hitting me up in game after some posts i made playing the victim ‘poor us’ card. Kinda funny..

Deli.1302:

BG’s strategy for Season 2:
1)Play dead. Make server look weaker compared to TC/JQ.
2)Anet increases server caps right before the tournament (we all know they are gonna do it)
3)Influx of guilds looking to join the “underdog server”
4)24/7, 4 map queues for the duration of the tournament
5)BG celebrates another win
6)Rinse and repeat for Season 3

you forgot:

- unload freeloaders and bandwagonners to ‘seemingly’ winning servers

- find weakest tc/jq coverage, pay for guild to transfer over for that time zone, exploit lack of jq/tc coverage

Waage.2047:

Actually we don’t have the coverage any more. With SoR splitting up between TC and JQ we have lost the coverage war.

TC has also gotten a massive EU guild in that outnumber every thing on BG so right now we do not have the advantage. Mix that with us taking the brunt of the attacks (not complaining it makes perfect sens), Being with out a TS for about a month because of hacker attacks have left us weaker.

Now i know no one remember’s history. The reason BG was slotted to lose season one (among tier 1) was because we lost almost all of our night coverage. We lost RISE and most of MERC to JQ.

After season 1 we lost ZD and COIN.

So yes we are weaker. We are not tanking any score for any reason we are not SoR.

JQ and TC got stronger so now they are a bigger threat and i welcome it. I would rather lose a hard fight then win a easy one and both servers are fighting us hard.

1 on 1 we could most likely the individual servers, but right now TC and JQ both have a massive interest in keeping us down and i welcome the challenge.

Now back to the irrational BG hate. “psht i heard that BG control’s the media and the devs”

cool story bro..not buying it though. The victim card is not gonna get you sympathy.

nah BG is using their S1 tactics, tank a few weeks, lets bang-wagonners and freeloaders leave or transfer to ‘better’ servers, hopefully JQ or TC, open up space for the hardcore guilds and to get more guild transfers.

they’re playing the victim card, not sure it will work this time.

If all else fails, they will somehow convince TC to double-team JQ.

spvp is not where anet makes their money, its wvw/pve. How many of you (formerly me) that ONLY spvp spent actually money on gems, gold, whatever? For the first 9 months I played only s/tpvp I maybe spent $20. For the last 4 months Ive been doing pve/wvw, ive spent over $100.

Follow the money trail..you’ll see why so much effort is being spent developing pve/wvw content and why spvp is just a tiny, insignificant fraction of the game. And this is why i still play the game, because the wvw/pve is so dynamic, content rich and i always have something to look forward to.

Qaelyn.7612:

Jade Quarry +535
Blackgate +75
Sanctum of Rall +85

EotM sure is doing great things for WvW.

SOR quit and looking fwd to t2
BG is tanking so they can get rid of scrubs and noobs to hopefully go to JQ, get shorter queues and better players/guilds to come over.

spvp is dead, this is coming from a rank 61. WvW is where it’s at. Sad, but true.

very entertaining..thank you.

Godmoney.2048:

Fade.9124:

Godmoney.2048:

Fade.9124:

I was really enjoying playing mesmer in wvw and pvp. I recently went back to my warrior and as much as I would love to main a mesmer, it just has way too many bugs and ‘ifs’ that can cost you a fight. The problem i found is that the class is so dependent on the AI for (I played both phantasm and shatter, not PU) and the leap + blurred frenzy burst combo is soooo buggy and unreliable that it’s just not worth the frustration. It seems you need a perfect situation to land that consistently and lets face it, there are so many imperfections in this game that makes it almost impossible.

When people say warrior is ‘easy mode’, it really is compared to a mesmer. Dont get me wrong, I wanted to play a more dynamic class which is why I leveled and geared my mesmer but there are just so many things wrong with this class it seems?

Unforgiving? Yes, mesmer is unforgiving in many ways. The mesmer should avoid taking damage, mesmer’s don’t sustain well or have much in terms of mitigation. The mindset that you must have to “mes” well is to not take damage in the early stages of a fight. Luckily mesmer has many options for avoiding early fight damage, mobility, evasion, stealth to name a few. This is a fundamental difference between mes and most classes.

Buggy? Meh, you learn to not use your Illusionary leap on uneven ground. See a thief that is on a slight uphill slope? Instead of using Illusionary leap on a spot that the ability will fail wait a second, use it at the top of the slope. Rarely are you going to spend a entire fight on a hill. Does that suck? Yeah it does, but I have yet to play a mmo that doesn’t have a hard time with X axis blinks. When you find a mmo that doesn’t have trouble with X axis blinking let me know. That would be the first mmo ever to not have this issue.

AI issues? Honestly I know dodge clones will run towards close targets and ability clones will run towards my targeted target so AI isn’t something that has ever bothered me about mesmer. I’ve always felt the AI was great for mesmer. Rangers and Necro’s are the ones that should be complaining. Again though, most mmo’s have trouble with pet pathing and AI. That’s another consistent problem in mmo’s. GW2 not be alone in that area.

Mesmer is still my favorite class of all MMO time. You like warrior, I like mesmer. The difference? You probably have way more practice on warrior while i have thousands of hours on mesmer. It’s not easy to switch classes when you’re confident on you main. I know I can’t pvp worth a kitten on anything but mesmer because I’ve never really practiced with them.

To each his own.

Like I said I like the mesmer I just dont enjoy playing with all the issues and bugs like you do. You can live with them and work around them (when you shouldnt have to for the most part) whereas it’s just too frustrating for me. Warrior has issues too, like bull’s charge can be similar to the leap where it misses, overshoots, buggy on uneven terrain, etc but my entire build is not based around that whereas a mesmer is (with the exception of PU maybe). We’re both settling but the mez is the worst off of the bunch, except maybe ranger.

I understand your points. I wasn’t trying to criticize your perspective. My apologies if I was condescending.

no prob.

Godmoney.2048:

Fade.9124:

I was really enjoying playing mesmer in wvw and pvp. I recently went back to my warrior and as much as I would love to main a mesmer, it just has way too many bugs and ‘ifs’ that can cost you a fight. The problem i found is that the class is so dependent on the AI for (I played both phantasm and shatter, not PU) and the leap + blurred frenzy burst combo is soooo buggy and unreliable that it’s just not worth the frustration. It seems you need a perfect situation to land that consistently and lets face it, there are so many imperfections in this game that makes it almost impossible.

When people say warrior is ‘easy mode’, it really is compared to a mesmer. Dont get me wrong, I wanted to play a more dynamic class which is why I leveled and geared my mesmer but there are just so many things wrong with this class it seems?

Unforgiving? Yes, mesmer is unforgiving in many ways. The mesmer should avoid taking damage, mesmer’s don’t sustain well or have much in terms of mitigation. The mindset that you must have to “mes” well is to not take damage in the early stages of a fight. Luckily mesmer has many options for avoiding early fight damage, mobility, evasion, stealth to name a few. This is a fundamental difference between mes and most classes.

Buggy? Meh, you learn to not use your Illusionary leap on uneven ground. See a thief that is on a slight uphill slope? Instead of using Illusionary leap on a spot that the ability will fail wait a second, use it at the top of the slope. Rarely are you going to spend a entire fight on a hill. Does that suck? Yeah it does, but I have yet to play a mmo that doesn’t have a hard time with X axis blinks. When you find a mmo that doesn’t have trouble with X axis blinking let me know. That would be the first mmo ever to not have this issue.

AI issues? Honestly I know dodge clones will run towards close targets and ability clones will run towards my targeted target so AI isn’t something that has ever bothered me about mesmer. I’ve always felt the AI was great for mesmer. Rangers and Necro’s are the ones that should be complaining. Again though, most mmo’s have trouble with pet pathing and AI. That’s another consistent problem in mmo’s. GW2 not be alone in that area.

Mesmer is still my favorite class of all MMO time. You like warrior, I like mesmer. The difference? You probably have way more practice on warrior while i have thousands of hours on mesmer. It’s not easy to switch classes when you’re confident on you main. I know I can’t pvp worth a kitten on anything but mesmer because I’ve never really practiced with them.

To each his own.

Like I said I like the mesmer I just dont enjoy playing with all the issues and bugs like you do. You can live with them and work around them (when you shouldnt have to for the most part) whereas it’s just too frustrating for me. Warrior has issues too, like bull’s charge can be similar to the leap where it misses, overshoots, buggy on uneven terrain, etc but my entire build is not based around that whereas a mesmer is (with the exception of PU maybe). We’re both settling but the mez is the worst off of the bunch, except maybe ranger.

I was really enjoying playing mesmer in wvw and pvp. I recently went back to my warrior and as much as I would love to main a mesmer, it just has way too many bugs and ‘ifs’ that can cost you a fight. The problem i found is that the class is so dependent on the AI for (I played both phantasm and shatter, not PU) and the leap + blurred frenzy burst combo is soooo buggy and unreliable that it’s just not worth the frustration. It seems you need a perfect situation to land that consistently and lets face it, there are so many imperfections in this game that makes it almost impossible.

When people say warrior is ‘easy mode’, it really is compared to a mesmer. Dont get me wrong, I wanted to play a more dynamic class which is why I leveled and geared my mesmer but there are just so many things wrong with this class it seems?

my only problem with the condi build (s/s + lb) was that it was very much single target. Besides the lb f1, all other attacks are mainly for 1v1. Arcing arrow is good but not on a condi build because you lack power and crit damage.

With that said, I rarely lost a 1v1 with my condi build. My best build was a hybrid power/condi combination.

i found that cleansing ire is best suited for hammer or longbow, its a bit harder on single target weapons like the axe i like to use. Thanks for the build i’ve played something similar but 0-10-30-10-20 back when unsuspecting foe was in the first tier.

Took a break playing my warrior a couple of months ago due to burnout (got to rank 370 in wvw). Played my thief and Mez for a while. Back on my warrior now.

Curious to see what you guys are running these days that I may have not tried. A/S + GS? Hambow? lb + gs? ss + lb condi? I’ve run most of these builds but i really enjoy gs + a/s for great mobility and awesome burst. My traits are 30-10-0-0-30, full ascended zerker + cavalier.

Links would be greatly appreciated too.

Thanks!

looks like some just ate a slice of humble pie and didn’t like the taste..

fyi this is a very unique build that is certainly not the flavor of any month and moreover, not everyone can pull it off, i know..i tried.

nice enjoyed your commentary and gameplay, much more enjoyable than ones with music in them. Really enjoy the strategy and thought process. Subscribed to you hope to see more!

hi i watched your archived stream videos and i see the potion for swiftness but i dont understand how it works. can you please shed some light?

pyro has this build been updated to a new url or is it still the original link on page 1?

Thanks!

Congrats BG!

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you cant have a roaming build without any mobility imo. You need to have either sword or greatsword.

indeed bull’s charge is horrible in wvw.

props to SOR on the defense of Hills on TC Sunday. Low morale, lower population aside, you guys still put up a great fight against our 3-4 attempts inside Hills.

yup was alot of fun 2nite doing a 3-way with SOS and BG. Sucks I had to leave, did anyone cap SOS Garri or did they hold? Looked like they (SOS) had the upper hand when I died and had to log.

i really think everyone needs to stop looking at what BG has done and start thinking about what we/they are going to do. Even if ZD goes back this is BG’s MO and by winning season 1, you can expect the same going forward. Rinse and repeat. There will be plenty of other guilds or transfers to be had if this is necessary.

The question is what are all the other gold league servers going to do to get better, get more coverage and be able to compete moving forward. Because let’s face it, it was close for a couple of days but really this BG steamrolling with little or no resistance, especially during certain time zones like right now when they are ticking for 350-400 for hours. Really, the season was over before it even started.

I realize things might change between season 1 and season 2 but BG is not going to change their gameplan, it’s really up to the rest of us to adapt, adjust or die..

GG’s BG, you bought fought well

Good fights vs TC today in TCBL. You guys did a good job defending Garri, was alot of fun going back and forth.

robocafaz.9017:

Unless you were getting those 9 stacks during the Warrior/Necro encounter, the Thief was likely running Perplexity as well.

You said he was never knocking you down, but were they interrupting you? Did they ever interrupt your attack animations, whether a knockdown or not?

OPP would be the authority on this since they all pretty much run it..

ive got my popcorn out and subscribing to this thread while waiting for my queue, cant wait for all the drama and finger-pointing. BG vs SOR is pure gold.

Greetings from JQ..see u guys soon!

you guys are noobs..u need a real warrior to show you how it’s done

:)

we were tpvping against Anet team (powerr and co) and mentioned it to them they said they’re aware.

Hey there, Killton here from JQ. Our guild (OP) is a small friendly guild (50 members, 10-15 active daily) and we are ramping up our recruitment for pve/wvw. We are all rank 40+ ex-pvpers who were in the top 100 of leaderboards (we still do t/spvp daily but just not as competetively, mostly for fun but that could change). We believe in quality of players, not quantity. Most of us are 30+ FOTM and we are active wvw, pvp and some pve. PM me in game (Killton) and we can chat some more.

Hey there, Killton here from JQ. Our guild (OP) is a small friendly guild (50 members, 10-15 active daily) and we are ramping up our recruitment for pve/wvw. We are all rank 40+ ex-pvpers who were in the top 100 of leaderboards (we still do tpvp daily but just not as competetively, mostly for fun but that could change). We believe in quality of players, not quantity. Most of us are 30+ FOTM and we are active wvw, pvp and some pve. PM me in game (Killton) and we can chat some more.

Hey burr fellow die-hard warrior here from JQ. Our guild (OP) is a small guild (50 members, 10-15 active daily) and we are ramping up our recruitment for pve/wvw. We are all rank 40+ ex-pvpers who were in the top 100 of leaderboards. We believe in quality of players, not quantity. Most of us are 30+ FOTM and we are active wvw, pvp and some pve. PM me in game (Killton) and we can chat some more.

met some nice folks from both SoS and FA. No showboating, camping corpses, taunting and other childish things im accustomed to from BG and SOR. Had some honorable great duels in ruins as well. Thanks for the fun FA and SOS.

/salute

You guys gave us a ‘community’ group oriented world event with Teq that requires alot of teamwork, cooperation, organization. Im trying to help out the community (non guildies) by supplying potions and food for the fight but I can neither trade these to people nor can I mail more than 3 without getting the message ‘you have been suppressed due to excessive mail’ and have to wait for more than 5 minutes before I can do another three emails. I understand you want to protect against sellers and farmers but not allowing us to trade AND mail each other en masse is ridiculous. Maybe come up with some kind of community ‘banker’ or trader or something that everyone can access at events like these. This is a HUGE feature of interaction that is missing from the game.

‘fun’ is subjective. Shouts alone are not all that but shouts paired with soldier runes and the synergies from trait lines are very strong in group fight and zerg type settings. And you also do realize shouts are aoe and also heal/cleanse other players right?

stances have better synergy from traits, etc and like someone else said you lose the dolyak passive when u pop it where as you gain an active when you use balance stance. I use to be dolyak but once i got to 3200 armor i switched to a stance build and never looked back.

good people run with them before as a pug

I know everyone is enamored with jumper’s build but ever heard of the shortbow aka the thief’s best weapon for kiting and doing good damage at the same time?

I LOVE IT!! Thieves complaining warriors are no longer free kills!! Just curious did you ever say ‘warriors too easy to kill’ when warriors were garbage and you killed them at will?

thanks bud appreciate the link i already had guessed knights and cavalier. Question, what would you change for this if you were running as a group or small zerg? i dont like soldier/shout builds personally (ill leave that up to other warriors) and i already started building towards ascended cavalier (have 4 so far). I was thinking GS for the 2,3 (corpses/cleave) and 5 (mobility) or s/w for the leap and buffs?

do you have a link to the actual build like what gear, runes, amulet, sigils, etc u using?

Nice video btw

i dont like to generalize because obviously each dungeon brings it’s own challenges and some builds also depend on your group composition but im curious to find out what other warriors are running. Im familiar with the zerker COF speed run build (30-25-0-0-15 and some variances) but have you guys had success with this across the board or are you running other builds? Also keep in mind i do have 20 AR on ascended zerker/valkyrie rings/trinkets/amulet etc so im mainly looking for traits, runes, sigils, weapons, etc. Also i am familiar with Spite’s new build GS+A/M but not sure if thats viable for end-game or just speed farming?

Thanks!

ps: i know some people get touchy about reposts so if this has been covered already, i apologize