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I can confirm that RUN has/is leaving Sea of Sorrows. I have spoken to Akadios/Cayden about the issue.
However, the reasoning behind it was because RUN was being blamed for some of the hackings that occurred on 9/10 and wanted to preserve their reputation.
I cann BS on that. He straight up sent me a whisper saying theres not enough people transferring in. I told him to give it some time as theyd only been there for 4 days, but i guess he wants everything to happen at the click of a finger.
Also they have no reputation, other than that of selfish server hoppers seeking something they will never get (i.e to be the commanding force on a top quality server)And that 40 man loss to a 15, i recall it was his other 2 commanders who were failing so hard in every aspect that the server even called out Daish to put his tag on and started following him instead, how ironic is that? Im guessing that was what inspired them to move when people started to realise how bad they were.
I agree. I don’t believe this excuse either. How does leaving the server solve this “problem”? They must have just gotten frustrated by the slow pace of building a WvW server population. That kind of thing takes time, and it takes a real commitment to your server community that you’re going to stand by them.
Transferring so often will likely do more harm to their reputation than anything else.
Darkhaven >>> Tarnished Coast >>> Sea of Sorrows >>> Sanctum of Rall
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Can we stop this free transfer thing raging. Its been said a million times already its temporary to balance out server population.
Is it balancing the server population? My impression is that people continue to transfer to the winning servers causing even worse imbalances. We need to cap the top servers if we are going to balance anything.
WvW as advertised: Epic, open-world PvP where teamwork, skill, and strategy matter
WvW in practice: Server with the best night crew wins the match against your NPCs while you sleep
Nightcapping not an issue? Because there are hundreds of posts about it on the forums, I’d say it’s a legitimate issue that concerns a lot of players.
(Sarcasm on)
You all just don’t understand that nightcapping is a fun feature of the game.
1. Nightcapping keeps the war “realistic”. When people say that WvW battles are realistic because of nightcapping, they’re right because in real life entire armies go to bed only to find themselves completely surrounded when they wake up. The war in Iraq was won by American coalition forces nightcapping the Iraqi bases while they slept.
2. It’s really fun to have your maps taken over while you sleep so that your hard-fought progress in the previous evening is entirely destroyed. Not demoralizing at all. Ask anyone from Far Shiverpeaks how this system fairly rewards talent and strategy. I’m sure they’ll agree.
3. Nightcapping does indeed involve a lot of player skill – it’s just not PvP skill, you see it’s a wonderful PvE skill challenge for the night crews
4. Nightcapping is very “casual friendly” because casual players have the time and energy to recruit international coalitions of PvP guilds to their server
5. People who complain about nightcapping are selfish. So what if it takes them 2 hours to take a keep in their primetime while it takes 10min to take the same keep when they go to bed? It’s not like the community has come up with several creative ways to address the nightcapping problem without harming anyone’s playing experience.
I’m frustrated and being kind of blunt with people. I don’t mean to be harsh.
I just want this game to succeed because it has so much potential. WvW is a huge part of this game and I know Arenanet is going to be in trouble if they don’t attempt to address this is a way that is respectful of everyone’s game time.
I was there at SWTOR’s launch and I know how these issues can snowball to bury a game. People are reaching endgame and they need to retain them.
[/quote]…nightcapping…prime-time efforts…the problem.[/quote]
Even the words you use “primetime” vs “nightcapping”, diminishes our perceived efforts. Just for your information, the hours we play is OUR primetime.
You also missed the point of what you were quoting – when WE go to bed, YOUR TIMEZONE does the same to us – takes points out of our control, because, you know, we’re sleeping.
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My post was very clearly using those words to mean both of our respective “primetimes” and respective “nightcapping” activities.
You missed the point of my post. I’m saying that nightcapping is not fun for anyone regardless of whether we can do it to each other. I don’t care if I can night cap you when you’re asleep, because it’s not fun to attack undefended keeps. I don’t want to play PvE with your NPCs. I want to play PvP. I want to fight a tough, even match against other PLAYERS, not NPCs. That’s the whole point of WvW. So it’s completely irrelevant that we can do the same thing to each other because we’re in opposite time zones.
My point, and everyone else’s point, is that it doesn’t matter that we can do it to each other – the night capping mechanic is not fun. It’s not fun to have the match determined by the night crews of each side and not the primetime of each respective side.
If all playtimes are supposed to be equal in value then why is it that one of the Region primetimes is completely pointless? Currently US primetime is completely dwarfed in value because all other region primetimes are immediately after it. Take everything during US primetime? Go to sleep, now lose it all to Euro/Oceanic Primetime and allow them to hold it for 6-8 hours before US primetime.
Without directing my post towards a specific area of the world, I fail to realise how the ‘peak’ time players cannot see that they’re being completely selfish. The Oceanic & Asian communities paid for the game as well, expecting that the WvWvW would be open 24/7 so that we could enjoy it as much as everyone else. You seem to think that your servers are being rolled during your off-peak because you don’t have numbers. Have you thought for a second that maybe your off-peak players are just really bad?
In addition to that, take the above poster I’ve quoted… he says “Take everything during US primetime? Go to sleep, now lose it all to Euro/Oceanic Primetime”… ok, so you’re taking everything during your prime time? Flip the situation around for a second. YOU, or the NA prime time, is taking EVERYTHING during OUR off-peak timezone. I’m pretty certain that what you’re doing is EXACTLY what you’re accusing the Oceanic & Euro communities of doing. You take everything during the US timezone, we take everything during the Oceanic timezone. The same. It’s pretty easy to understand.
To counteract these problems we’ve been recruiting NA guilds like crazy so develop a strong NA timezone so that we can eventually move up into Tier-1. You should be doing the same instead of expecting that your timezone becomes ‘special’ compared to the rest of them.
There’s always the option of transferring servers yourself to help an Oceanic server.
This completely (what Thalantyr said)^ Though I’m pretty sure it’ll be skipped over again because it makes too much sense.
And thanks for the response Matt, this is getting ridiculous – it just looks like they’ve grabbed onto something they can blame their losing on, and running to the forums with it.
stop harassing the rest of the world, we paid for the game too.
Yes, you bought the game expecting 24/7 access and no one is advocating taking that away from you. No one is saying that we need to block the game for Oceanic players. I don’t know where you get this idea that everyone is saying we should stop people in other timezones from playing the game at all. That’s absurd. No one is advocating that.
But you know what? I bought the game expecting amazing battles where the skill of my server determines whether we win. I didn’t expect to have a game where one server can nightcap their opponents so that the other servers give up resulting in an uncompetitive match for the rest of the week.
What we’re saying is that nightcapping is not a fun mechanic because it rewards high populations and night crews, rather than skill. It creates a system where the best night crew wins the game regardless of prime-time efforts. That is not epic PvP gameplay – that is competitive PvE to see how fast night crews can take down NPCs.
We just need to minimize the IMPACT of nightcapping for ALL TIMEZONES – NA, EU, Oceanic, Asia. (or some other creative solution!)
That means looking for a solution where nightcapping doesn’t hurt you as much or NA players or EU players. We want to eliminate the problem for EVERYONE, not just our own timezones. We’re looking for a fair solution for everyone. No need to accuse us all of being selfish.
HAHA well-played on the copied post from last week.
Is this really what Anet wanted to create with WvW?
WvW – an epic battle where the best night crews win glorious battles against empty keeps in order to determine the winner!
Not how I imagined it would be and that’s how it works even at the highest levels of server competition right now.
The vast majority of players are either demoralized during their off-peak because their server has been nightcapped or, if they are on a stronger server, they have no one to fight because their server nightcapped and demoralized the opponents.
Unopposed nightcapping does not have to be stopped, it just should not be the most important factor in winning a match. This is a legitimate complaint by the playerbase and it is something Arenanet can address without breaking the game or “punishing” the people who play during off-peak hours.
Arenanet ignores these complaints at their peril.
Just to answer some questions I’ve been getting:
1) We don’t require your entire guild to join but you are certainly welcomed to send everyone our way.
2) We don’t have mandatory events but we do follow guidelines to keep communication channels clear during events we organize.
3) We do check to see that you are actually on our server by having you meet us in the Mists unless we are confident that TC is your home server by other evidence we see.
Welcome aboard! Commander Jadon is one of the best on the server.
Join the Tarnished Coast WvW Alliance to help the war effort in the Tarnished Coast!
Both guilds and un-guilded individual players are welcomed to join!
The “Alliance War Council” is a alliance of 49 guilds on the Tarnished Coast that are banding together to fight in WvW PvP. We are also a great resource for guild recruitment because we have many un-guilded members joining all of the time and our member guilds are always interested in new players. Let me know if you have any questions!
Recruitment video made by the Custodian of the Alliance War Council – Krage Mangore:
I hope you will join us!
FOR THE COAST!
Glaucon
Alliance War Council: http://awc.enjin.com/
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Just stop. we all know what happened.
We do. Two “losing” teams decided, having dealt with a large zergfest from their prior match up, to deny the dominant team the map control necessary to keep their lead. Alongside this, in various Borderlands, these two teams continued to harass each other. This largely took the form of sabotaging supply lines in the hope of weakening the other force for later attacks. A larger push was attempted by one of these teams on a rival’s valley keep in the Eternal Battlegrounds but the line held, convincing the (for lack of a better term) defeated team that continued attack wasn’t tenable and to focus attacking a different front that would yield better results
This was done without major forms of communication, with continued skirmishes at camps and towers between these two forces, while they also attacked the dominant force with significant results.
This setback led certain individuals to concoct not one, but two separate explanations from what occurred that appear to have little grounding in the actual beyond the fact that this apparently beleaguered and aggrieved homeworld faced attack on two fronts and could not muster sufficient defense to defend the large holdings they’d claimed, which made them into a target to begin with.
Am I missing any details?
Stop. You’re making too much sense in your arguments! We’ll have to cancel production of all the conspiracy posters we’ve been designing: http://imgur.com/fUoTa
The Skinny
Tarnish Coast spymaster, Mittens, walked into the dive off Lion’s Arch known simply as “The Dive” gripping his cloak around him mysteriously. His eyes looked askance at the great GOON general and approached him with dread.
“Good Evening, Sir.”
“And who might you be?” Thundered, GOON general, Jerk Jerk, as he gripped his mug of ale and peeked at Mittens quailing in his boots.
“I’m but a humble messenger, of the residents of Tarnished Coast. We have a proposal of pppp-r—rr—rropitious proportions, my lord. We ask of you to refrain from attacking our keeps and towers so we may win this weekly battle of the mists.”
“WHAT!!?!” bellowed, mighty Jerk Jerk as he threw his mug into the hearth with a crash. “What perfidy is this? You ask for us to join with you in this scurrilous undertaking. Ask the mighty GOON forces to serve your cause?!? Inconceivable!?!?”
The bar suddenly grew still at the crash and only the sounds of the creaking of chairs and the noise of the street could be heard as all talk quieted. Mittens could be heard exhaling sharply in a gasp as his eyes darted nervously from the sudden attention of all eyes and ears.
“B-b-b-bbbut, my lord, it would be advantageous for us to join together. We are but weak during the nocturnal hours of the moon and Ehmry Bay is strong with the drink of Mountain Dew and cheetos. We do not ask it freely but offer you a thousand badges of honor for each keep and tower you take from Ehmry Bay.” Mittens reached into his cloak and retrieved a large bag which clinked with a metallic solidity as he laid it onto the table.
“A thousand badges of honor you say?”, said fat General Jerk Jerk as he leaned his bulk into the back of his chair with a bemused expression. His chubby fingers pulled at the short hairs of his beard as he scratched the underbelly of his neckbeard. “A thousand badges of honor sounds like a fine sum indeed. Perhaps we do indeed, can do business. Serious business.” He looked at the bag at the table and swept it up in his mighty hamfist and tucked it under his belt.
“Myy-y-y-y lord?” quailed, Mittens as his fingers nervously plucked at his cloak strings.
“Very well! My good man! We shall be your huckleberrys in this dastardly deed.” The awesome GOON General rose to his feet with the floorboards creaking ominously under the enormous weight of a goon in armor. “I shall summon a CONCLAVE of my goon brothers and we shall plan for this early mornings assault on Ehmry Bay. By tonight you will have won through the weight of our forces.” He held out a meaty hand and Mittens did all he could to grasp but a meaty forefinger in his tiny delicate hands.
“Th-h-t-ht-h-ank you, my lord. I will make haste to my masters and tell them that the GOONs are with Tarnished Coast!” Mittens could not take his leave quickly enough and could not wait to be out of the dusty and grimy bar. He hurried out of the bar and into the night.
This is great! I love my server. This is obviously TC work.
For the Coast!
My boys and I were in Sea of Sorrows last night, takin yo’ orbs, killin’ yo friends and family members.
He’s climbing in yo window, he’s snatching yo people up….
Please show some screen shots to prove this. I have never seen anyone standing around RPing in WvW and I don’t think anyone would do this.