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Seems like ANet overlooked a major flaw

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its not server costs dude, its bandwidth. THAT is the kicker. something most f2p diehards fail to realise hence why f2p is a fail design.

Not really, maybe in the 90s, but since the 2000s, bandwidth for companies isn’t that big of a concern.

Think of it this way, Netflix can charge 8 bucks a month for unlimited streaming(and that uses WAY more bandwidth then an MMO)… and they’re making a ton of money.

um dude thats movie streaming vs having actual game servers. /facepalm.

anyway. bandwidth is what costs, and since anet cannot back up anyones hacked account with whatever was stolen then i’d take a sub fee if it ensured that security.

anyone that plays an mmo and the company has no way of restoring their entire account are wasting their time.

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6 years development just to end up like another wow clone. well done.

Seems like ANet overlooked a major flaw

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its not server costs dude, its bandwidth. THAT is the kicker. something most f2p diehards fail to realise hence why f2p is a fail design.

I Feel Lied To

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If I get them, I get them. But Fractals are a fun instance that I can play while casually working towards something. It gives me something to accomplish and is hardly a grind or a treadmill when it’s fun and entertaining.

I would just ignore Apathy he is either trolling or very dense. The info is out there he is just ignoring facts and making up what he thinks is going to happen just to spread more angst in the community.

I’m the dense one?

I am literally quoting the Lead Designer, what the hell more do you want?

Your qouting a lead designer that made statements from how long ago? How bout recent events…. how about you go educate yourself on recent happenings, namely the interview just this week which pretty much threw everything you speculated about on page one 100% false. yet you continue to act like thats whats happening?

They very clearly told the community why the change, and that it was meant to be there from the start of the game… they also say that ascended gear will become available over the course of a full year….. then they say there is no planned higher tier gear for the forseeable future.

Yet you insist that its incorrect information, or perhaps you didn’t bother reading what was said this week and continue on with the doomsday posts.

oh yes, of course they would say it was meant to be there. its called DAMAGE CONTROL. two words anet fanboys need to become accustomed to.

LOL meant to be there. yes, and the earth’s core is made of cheese.

Well nothing is keeping you here, if you don’t want to believe anything they say from here on out thats on you…. you don’t pay a sub fee, you got 3 months worth of great gameplay. if you are that enraged and untrusting go get your refund and go about your business I am not sure where this snarky attitude is needed. Its not like your forced to do anything.

It is a game after all.

yes, a game sold on one notion only to be changed into another. the other being something they said they’d never do.

anet fanboys suffer from battered wife syndrome. keep coming back on those empty promises. i think anet failed long ago. no wonder 2 of the original 3 left. says something dont it.

I Feel Lied To

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If I get them, I get them. But Fractals are a fun instance that I can play while casually working towards something. It gives me something to accomplish and is hardly a grind or a treadmill when it’s fun and entertaining.

I would just ignore Apathy he is either trolling or very dense. The info is out there he is just ignoring facts and making up what he thinks is going to happen just to spread more angst in the community.

I’m the dense one?

I am literally quoting the Lead Designer, what the hell more do you want?

Your qouting a lead designer that made statements from how long ago? How bout recent events…. how about you go educate yourself on recent happenings, namely the interview just this week which pretty much threw everything you speculated about on page one 100% false. yet you continue to act like thats whats happening?

They very clearly told the community why the change, and that it was meant to be there from the start of the game… they also say that ascended gear will become available over the course of a full year….. then they say there is no planned higher tier gear for the forseeable future.

Yet you insist that its incorrect information, or perhaps you didn’t bother reading what was said this week and continue on with the doomsday posts.

lol did you even read my posts?

dude if anet introduced night elves they would say they were meant to always be there LOL

I Feel Lied To

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If I get them, I get them. But Fractals are a fun instance that I can play while casually working towards something. It gives me something to accomplish and is hardly a grind or a treadmill when it’s fun and entertaining.

I would just ignore Apathy he is either trolling or very dense. The info is out there he is just ignoring facts and making up what he thinks is going to happen just to spread more angst in the community.

I’m the dense one?

I am literally quoting the Lead Designer, what the hell more do you want?

Your qouting a lead designer that made statements from how long ago? How bout recent events…. how about you go educate yourself on recent happenings, namely the interview just this week which pretty much threw everything you speculated about on page one 100% false. yet you continue to act like thats whats happening?

They very clearly told the community why the change, and that it was meant to be there from the start of the game… they also say that ascended gear will become available over the course of a full year….. then they say there is no planned higher tier gear for the forseeable future.

Yet you insist that its incorrect information, or perhaps you didn’t bother reading what was said this week and continue on with the doomsday posts.

oh yes, of course they would say it was meant to be there. its called DAMAGE CONTROL. two words anet fanboys need to become accustomed to.

LOL meant to be there. yes, and the earth’s core is made of cheese.

I Feel Lied To

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I can understand the frustration i too am very angry about this nov 16th patch but they did mention specifics about the future direction of the game including gaining these items and all we can do now is wait for their next patch.

yes because we should give how many chances to failnet? sorry, as far as im concerned, credibility was lost when they pimped the Hall of Monuments to GW1 players to have some major significance in gw2. it was a PR stunt to try and keep those players playing. and what do they do? instead of getting cool items/armor/weapons related to each title we earn, they just add a numerical value to it.

whys this matter? it means someone that farms for a month can equate what had taken me say 2 years to achieve.

when will the cotton wool fall out of your ears people. anet are amateurs. they brought this all on themselves claiming they would never have a vertical progression model even quoted by devs, also claiming content wouldnt be gated by gear level.

frauds are frauds. ive never seen people in mass amounts request a refund on this scale ever, and anet are giving them why? because they knew they marketed a product which isnt what we all paid for.

AMA on Reddit [merged threads]

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for all of swtor’s failings at least it still did what it did without doing a 180. it was vanilla wow with no endgame but since release its been heavily supported and is growing very slowly in numbers.

throw in TESO and ArcheAge coming out in the next year or two and gw2 will become another cliched dress up game defended by the rabids.

Sunday morning: Two hours in GW2

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servers are FULL because they have the slots taken up by player accounts. its that simple. if a server is say, 1000 at cap, you have 1000 people making that server their home server. it doesnt mean its FULL it means its filled out its quota. it could still say its full yet only have 100 people active.

My exit review of Guild Wars 2

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As civilised as your post is, it does not belong on these forums. Forums are a place of discussion and by your own statement you are not interested in a discussion. This would be much better as a review/blog post.

That is why it is titled “My Exit Review of Guild Wars 2”. Sadly your definition of forum is not accurate and Webster’s dictionary agrees,

Forum
1c: "a medium (as a newspaper or online service) of open discussion or expression of ideas "

Source: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/forum

As this is an expression of my ideas I believe it fits forums perfectly.

or to be put another way, if your review was nothing but praise im sure he would have said ‘excellent review i agree 100 percent’. and im kitten sure he wouldnt be telling you not to post it.

GW2, misunderstood game

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@mitlandir theres that intelligent gw2 community i keep seeing. the one that bashes every other mmo, mmo gamer to claim their digital fail game was somehow the new breed of mmos. you know what i see? i see as do many others a game that is so bogged down with grind that everything required is more effort than mmos 8 years ago. excellent design for 2012.

once games like elder scrolls online, archeage, phantasy star online 2, final fantasy 14 a realm reborn begin their marketing pushes you’re little north korean mmo will all be but forgotten.

My exit review of Guild Wars 2

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people hating on ps2 because people cant handle gw2 wasnt the messiah. better than the competition? lol if gw2 is around in 8 years with over 10 million active players then we’ll discuss success. a one night stand in sales doesnt equate to success, it equates to curiousity and being duped by clever marketing.

enjoy planetside 2 mate i’ll be there also

GW2, misunderstood game

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If you think the dynamic world is a premiere, I suppose you’ve never heard of Rift.

Tabula Rasa actually started the whole dynamic event thing. Wish other games also copied the combat of that game as well. Still waiting.

I didn’t know that about Tabula Rasa and I’m guessing most people never even heard of it. Rift was a more commonly known example, but thanks for pointing that out.

np, still mourn the loss of that game and its ideas/combat from the gaming world, tons of bugs or not. Hoping one day some game dev will realise its importance. Look – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of3Uxw9MNec&list=PLD5AB1C0D55DC4B88&index=100&feature=plpp_video and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p5_NFQinNc&list=PLD5AB1C0D55DC4B88&index=101&feature=plpp_video

i missed the boat on TB but i had a mate of mine always raving about it.

GW2, misunderstood game

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LOL misunderstood? Anets entire manifesto was blowing smoke so they could capitalise on the ‘bored mmo gamer’ out there. and yet most of the stuff advertised minus DE’s and a persistant world existed in gw1.

face the facts. gw2 was the biggest hype pile ever, even more than swtor. and it has failed. 2 million box sales prove how easy it was to dupe people but now look, barely anyone is playing because once the glitz wore off they realised it was a north korean run mmo hidden under the guise of western development.

wah wah misunderstood LOL gimme a break. this is what happens when your fabled company kitten on the competition, kitten on mechanics which WORK all because they didnt want to make something that would be called a ‘wow clone. so instead they make a warhammer/rift/doac clone, remove any rewards for doing anything and claim ’fun is enough’ ROFL.

when i play wow, my endgame starts at level 1. oh no, that cant be right can it? how dare i have fun playing WOW from level 1 to level 90 OMG…BLASPHEMY!

Has Guild Wars 2 been worth your $60.00?

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@InfiniteRetro.9865 wait, really? No rollback/restore abilities? Heard from friend or customer support? I know they can’t/lack policy to restore Gold if the gem exchanges bugged and ate your gold and didn’t give you gems back, but char restore is kinda basic.

i even did a video about it on my channel showcasing the email from arenanet themselves.

to quote:
“In regards to missing gold, characters and items, currently we are technically unable to provide restorations or any direct assistance with reclaiming what was lost.”

Has Guild Wars 2 been worth your $60.00?

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firing up gw1 after loading up gw2 is like going from a garbage bin meal to a 5 star restaurant.

That’s a bit harsh, I would say. GW2 is probably just fine for those who can play at times others can and who really enjoy PvP. It’s not so great, though, if you don’t fit that profile.

It’s very much as if the developers decreed that their idea of fun was the be-all end-all and that anyone who had any other ideas or requirements could just forget it. I never had that feeling with GW1. Certainly GW1 wasn’t perfect, especially when PvE skills were nerfed due to PvP concerns, but it was a better fit for the casual gamer.

its the truth. their entire manifesto was just PR rubbish to try and win ‘other mmo’ gamers because anet decreed games like wow or what not were old and boring and they were somehow inventing the wheel (despite warhammer, tera and rift beating them to the punch).

then they launch a game people were knocking over within 6 days. add to that they stealth patch in DR, fail to address botting, fail to address glaring issues relevant since bwe1.

and people wonder why mmo’s try to go with a sub.

oh let me add in the fact they cannot roll back your account if it gets hacked. 2012 programming right up in this joint.

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Anet incapable of running GW2?

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Ok so it’s been well over a month since the games’ release. Things were great at first with a few bugs here and there and the batch of bad apples (exploiters). The details were great along with the story line (except the ending) and the TP was being tested. And everything seemed to be going fine until anet started patching things.

Now with that said I will put aside my love for the GW series and be serious here. Over the past few weeks the game has gotten progressively worst with each patch. I’m ok with games being buggy in the BEGINNING, but for it to get worse after every patch? This has by far been the worst game I’ve played (since WoW’s vanilla period) ever. Honestly when you hear the word “patch” we expect “Oh they’re fixing something”. Well ok that’s the normal sequence…..until it turns into “WTF???!!!!! they broke more kitten than they fixed!!!!”

Next is the all touted about “Botter/Exploiter issue”. Ok so they have been “actively” implementing programs to deal with exploiters/botters and somewhere posting a list of accounts banned for said reason. Great…good…..why the hell is this same group of botters here in Cursed Shore for the last week that have no doubt been reported HUNDREDS of times yet still remain?

Finally, since I’m expecting alot of fanboy flamers, this is what I’ve summed up from the time I spent on GW2 leveling up two 80s and comparing the experiences from both side by side along with the hundreds of other threads posted by individuals having the same or different issues. Anet I know I’m not the first to say they’re dropping the game and I more than likely won’t be the last but when your worst in terms of everything (except graphical abilities) you need to step back and fix things. Not fix as in “Ok guys let’s fool them into thinking we’re doing something but break it more” I mean actually FIX. And with that I end my rant and await PSOs’ Wizardry Online to come out. PEACE.

i recently read the elementalist changes made for gw1 and it occurred to me the ocean difference in how things ‘were/are’ run with gw1 vs how they are with gw2.

honestly, gw2 just is the biggest disgrace to the franchise. it sure got all the casual carebears though who were too noob to play through HM Shards of Orr or FOW or any other epic dungeon. not to mention, no nevermind.

Has Guild Wars 2 been worth your $60.00?

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No, I’m afraid not. I was really looking forward to GW2, but I must say that I am disappointed.

I don’t like being forced to play in big groups to participate in events. I don’t like being forced to participate in PvP in order to fully explore the world. I don’t like jumping games. I am all for being sociable, but not for being forced to be social.

There are things I love such as the graphics, the towns, and the item shop, but the things I don’t like outweigh the things I do like. I’ve actually quit playing. I found GW1 to be a more exciting game and to fit my style of play better. Since I usually play when others don’t, I can just get together my heros and henchies and go out and have a good time in a way that is just not possible with GW2.

firing up gw1 after loading up gw2 is like going from a garbage bin meal to a 5 star restaurant.

Has Guild Wars 2 been worth your $60.00?

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I’ve put more hours into this game than I did Skyrim, so it’s been worth the purchase price. The game DID live up to its hype as far as being refreshing. Very little about this game is recycled designs choices we’ve seen for the last decade.

Love it or hate it, GW2 has become the industry changer it wanted to be.

changed what exactly? i dont see these changes. i see an mmo full of carebear systems because gamers feel too griefed having a node stolen or a mob tagged before their lazy bum got to their first.

gw2 changed the industry in the same way rift, star wars tor, age of conan and the whole long list of mmos did. oh wait, they didnt.

You Are Simply Wasting Your Time

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@Stevoli: of course, of course, its my fault a company still cant roll back my account where every other mmo available out there can.

You Are Simply Wasting Your Time

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It proves nothing except you wanting to deflect your responcibility for your security onto someone else. Strengthen your passwords. I have NEVER been hacked. I strengthened my password at ANET’s suggestion and I don’t go to sites that may end up hijacking my info. If you expect pity … forget it.

i dont expect pity, i expect game programmers in 2012 to have a clue about account security. the fact they still dont have a roll back feature after all these years proves they dont give a stuff.

I believe your knight’s cape is now available.

You Are Simply Wasting Your Time

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This will get shut down faster than a heartbeat which only proves im right. When my GW accounts were hacked, my gw2 account could not have its characters weapons, armor or items restored because they do not have the means to do so.

this also existed back in gw1 where a friend of mine did not get all of his stuff back either.

basically, if you get hacked, you’re done. its like deleting a game save for any other game without any backup available.

for an mmo in 2012 this is abysmal.

I want to like this game...

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@ infiniteretro: I disagree. The gameplay might be different, the types of systems and features might be different, but it is guild wars. The characters, the lore, the references to event that have passed. I didnt play guild wars 1, but what I have gathered from lore in game, and NPCs talking, along with personal story, I understand a little bit what it was about.

If you wanted the game to play exactly like Gw1, why even bother buying its sequal? People said the same thing about Diablo 3, that it was nothing like Diablo 2. isnt that the point of a NEW game? To be NEW and try NEW things? Otherwise it should just be recoding the graphics engine, and keeping all the same content in the game for guild wars 1.

I know Blizzard is working on Titan, but if they weren’t, they would be smart to put their money into WoW 2. For that, would you expect the same looking azeroth, dungeon feels, raid mechanics, etc? I think when I pay 60 bucks for a game, I want it to be its own game.

umm Anet did say they were taking everything we love about gw1 and putting it in gw2.

so lets assess what DIDNT make it:
- Mesmer (in their TRUE form not this rubbish now)
- Monks (not these kitten Paladin hybrids known as Guardians)
- Elite skill capping or skill capping in general off NAMED BOSSES
- No Dual Profession
- Only swap to 2 weapons, GW1 had FOUR
- Far superior cut scenes and story telling
- tighter gameplay
- LOADS more pvp options
- Faction grinding
- racial grinding (like Asura or Deldrimor from gw1)
- the ability to team up with npcs in case other players arent around to assist
- Dungeons were far superior, and in fact, ALL instances/mobs were far superior
- LOOT. LOOT actually was worth hunting for even if it was skins. the hell happened where they suddenly thought ‘oh they dont need loot, we’ll give them fun instead’

face it, gw2 is a run of the mill mmo with stolen ideas from all other failed mmos like warhammer and rift to try and capitalise on the disgruntled casual. they kinda succeeded but literally within a week of release the wheels were falling off.

dont even dare telling me this game is in any way shape or form resembling gw1 and the complexity and epicness of that game.
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this game is absolutely not and should not even be associated with guild wars 1 even in passing. its a disgrace of a title. they only used the gw name because it was known, stick another name on this game and it would be an entirely different entity.

its pretty obvious it was a money grab using PR to dupe people into thinking something it aint.

This game is like Amway

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Seriously, before launch, Arenanet would talk down to all other mmo developers, proclaim systems that millions enjoy are suddenly outdated (next they’ll tell us shooting in a straight line is OLD), and that they are the future.

they were all over us with PR on facebook, reddit, twitter, websites, forums you name it. buttering us all up proclaiming their ‘we dont just swing a sword, we dont have grind’ etc like the rest. hopes were raised and then what…

just like amway, you go to a meeting, they dont tell you what you really are doing, they just sell you the ‘idea’. in the end, when you finally get the answer its like ‘oh, well you’re just buying groceries’ and thats basically what guild wars 2 is.

guild wars 1 WAS and still IS revolutionary, even to this day no other game has matched its uniqueness. what they did with gw2 was pull an amway, sucker us all in PR and claim its the future only to find out its bloody well not.

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I don’t miss raiding. Way too time consuming.

But even with a voice server..this game seems to make peeps much quieter than other games.

but spending 2 hours to do a 5 man dungeon is acceptable.

Remove the Leveling Scale from Guild Wars 2

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the ONLY reason it exists is to stretch out the game. no single game in rpg history has this in the enforcement that gw2 has. final fantasy 11 did it right as to will ff14, but this ‘automated’ system is just garbage. should never exist unless people choose it as an option.

it stretches out the content, that is all. its to make up for lack of content pure and simple.

That is not the ONLY reason it exists. It also exists so that you can party with people below your level and so that a high level player doesn’t interfere or destroy the fun atmosphere for the lower level players.

Having played in other MMOs, nothing used to bother me more than needing X number of something (we’ll say Warthogs) and when I headed out to get them, some high level idiot came through with an AoE spell that killed them all instantly because he needed to grind for something, leaving me to wait for the respawns.

Honestly, it’s one of the best features of GW2.

you know how many times thats happened to me? none. i play WoW, THE single biggest mmo and i have yet to have that issue. want to know why? because respawn rates increase based on who and where in a zone. it hasnt been an issue since vanilla wow, something arenanet continues to use as its scapegoat to pimp gw2 despite wow being nothing how it was 8 years ago.

again, ff11 and ff14 will be doing it right.

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the ONLY reason it exists is to stretch out the game. no single game in rpg history has this in the enforcement that gw2 has. final fantasy 11 did it right as to will ff14, but this ‘automated’ system is just garbage. should never exist unless people choose it as an option.

it stretches out the content, that is all. its to make up for lack of content pure and simple.

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The sham that gw2 is compared to gw1 is unreal. i logged into gw1 today and im instantly wanting to play it. never had that feeling for gw2 because its a kittenised version of a whole bunch of other mmos.

the only reason gw2 exists is to try and get the mass appeal. however, by doing that, by talking mad kitten about other devs and their mmos, they’ve created a game far worse than anything the competition ever had.

see, gw1 story telling was 100% better. as to was the build creation, dual profession, 4 weapon swaps, heroes, henchmen, gear that really DIDNT matter, free ability to respec your attributes anytime, better designed zones, far better character npcs than the 1 dimensional imbiciles in gw2.

sorry, i dont know if its an entirely different team or not, but you dont kitten on your fanbase by going against what made gw1 so great. and now, as a result, your game is going to end up with less players than what gw1 had. why?

because GW1 did everything far better than gw2. at least to, waypoints and armour repairs didnt exist in gw1 and it was still a wildly popular game, but oh no, we have to copy every other mmo but claim innovation.

GW1 is the better of the two, the only people defending this notion are ‘other mmo’’ gamers who are so burned out on wow and its clones that they think they’ve traded up.

enjoy the Diminishing Returns, i mean, you cant get more north korea than that.

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If these don’t occur, and the general public loses interest, it easily could die. NCSoft just shut down City of Heroes and their developer, could happen here as well if interest dies off.

City of Heroes is 8 years old. If Guild Wars 2 is around in 8 years’ time, I think we can consider it a success.

Even The Secret World will keep on going, and that only has about 6 players.

GW2 has already sold millions of copies. Even if hundreds of thousands of people leave, it will still have a strong regular player base, and plenty of the people who stopped playing will probably return for expansions.

Who cares if the player base is not as big as WoWs? I doubt ArenaNet cares; they were even willing to stop selling the game to avoid going over capacity. That’s how many copies it sold. Everything suggests the game has exceeded expectations. It’ll be fine.

oh god, they stopped sales because of the hacking. they couldnt risk other people buying the game through THEIR database/store with that massive potential of having brand new customers possibly having their accounts compromised.

jesus, you could still buy the game from retailers and online stores. if they were that ‘concerned’ over capacity they would have sent out a request for all retail/online to cease sales till notified.

fanboys will make up any bullkitten to claim like gw2 is some epic game. NO, the game is dying faster than a snowflake in a microwave.

never before have i seen a product especially an mmo in such high demand for refunds. that proves one thing, anet blowing smoke all these years didnt fool anyone once they got their hands on the trash pile game they released.

gw2 has more problems, more north korean implementation in the game than any other ‘gear treadmill’ game out there. and they have the nerve to crack off at other gaming companies.

I think beta players owe the rest of us an apology...

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If anyone owes anyone an apology, I think all the people raining down negativity owe the rest of the GW2 community an apology. It’s one thing to complain, but when every forum thread is repeated negativity or every good thread is hijacked, it makes coming to the forums a real pain to deal with.

You cannot even start a thread about enjoying the game without someone trying to turn it around on you. It’s getting quite tiresome.

not to be rude but well done, except, now you know what its been like for every other mmo forum in the lead up to gw2. EVERY mmo forum had to put up with this mercenary ‘your mmo sucks gw2 will kill it’ group. THAT grew tiresome. and when i see people complaining about negativity, well, karma is the word id use.

Where does it end? You can start the revolution and walk away.

revolution? you mean the gw2 community cant man up, apologise for being total kittens to other gamers simply because their kitten wannbe wow killer game was all they cared for?

god, not even totalbiscuit who went all squealy for gw2 gives two kitten about it now.

I’ve noticed the same. Funny, ain’t it? It makes you wonder.

people wanted gw2 to be better than WoW. Arenanet told the world mmos are tiring and they are the best at doing them. so people got it in their heads it was so. coming from the MoP questing experience, thus far, MoP is the best questing ive experienced in an mmo.

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If anyone owes anyone an apology, I think all the people raining down negativity owe the rest of the GW2 community an apology. It’s one thing to complain, but when every forum thread is repeated negativity or every good thread is hijacked, it makes coming to the forums a real pain to deal with.

You cannot even start a thread about enjoying the game without someone trying to turn it around on you. It’s getting quite tiresome.

not to be rude but well done, except, now you know what its been like for every other mmo forum in the lead up to gw2. EVERY mmo forum had to put up with this mercenary ‘your mmo sucks gw2 will kill it’ group. THAT grew tiresome. and when i see people complaining about negativity, well, karma is the word id use.

Where does it end? You can start the revolution and walk away.

revolution? you mean the gw2 community cant man up, apologise for being total kittens to other gamers simply because their kitten wannbe wow killer game was all they cared for?

god, not even totalbiscuit who went all squealy for gw2 gives two kitten about it now.

You’re expecting loyalty from Youtube ‘celebrities’ to be a valid point in a discussion? I think you’ll find most of them will hop from game to game based on what will get them the most subscribers (and as a result money and ‘fame’) rather than stick with something even if they enjoy it.

TotalBiscuit isn’t the best example to use, at the very least. I still remember how he used to whine and got himself banned on the official WoW forums because he couldn’t post his videos there when he was still trying to get more credibility.

no, but he’s a voice, a big voice. hell people know who i am and i got less than 4k subs LOL

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lol Totalbiscuit. Those new gen of youtube heroes.

hey man dont knock him he ended up being the brief poster child for gw2 that the fanboys wanted LOL

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If anyone owes anyone an apology, I think all the people raining down negativity owe the rest of the GW2 community an apology. It’s one thing to complain, but when every forum thread is repeated negativity or every good thread is hijacked, it makes coming to the forums a real pain to deal with.

You cannot even start a thread about enjoying the game without someone trying to turn it around on you. It’s getting quite tiresome.

not to be rude but well done, except, now you know what its been like for every other mmo forum in the lead up to gw2. EVERY mmo forum had to put up with this mercenary ‘your mmo sucks gw2 will kill it’ group. THAT grew tiresome. and when i see people complaining about negativity, well, karma is the word id use.

Where does it end? You can start the revolution and walk away.

revolution? you mean the gw2 community cant man up, apologise for being total kittens to other gamers simply because their kitten wannbe wow killer game was all they cared for?

god, not even totalbiscuit who went all squealy for gw2 gives two kitten about it now.

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If anyone owes anyone an apology, I think all the people raining down negativity owe the rest of the GW2 community an apology. It’s one thing to complain, but when every forum thread is repeated negativity or every good thread is hijacked, it makes coming to the forums a real pain to deal with.

You cannot even start a thread about enjoying the game without someone trying to turn it around on you. It’s getting quite tiresome.

not to be rude but well done, except, now you know what its been like for every other mmo forum in the lead up to gw2. EVERY mmo forum had to put up with this mercenary ‘your mmo sucks gw2 will kill it’ group. THAT grew tiresome. and when i see people complaining about negativity, well, karma is the word id use.

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True story. I read the first paragraph and skimmed the rest. The title gave me a bad vibe and thus my response. I suppose to avoid confusion, a title more to the point would be better.

After a brief re-read (a.k.a. skim), I didn’t see the true message until the very last paragraph. I think most people won’t read to the very last paragraph if we see a lot of the same material people have been talking about over and over. Not to be critical, just saying.

well if arenanet employed north korea, i mean, DR into the betas then well most people wouldnt have bothered with the game. for people to claim its to combat botters, DR exists in gw1 to quite a large degree. this was there plan, naturally, the blind continue to think its all sunshine and roses.

Noted. My title sucked. I tried breaking up the paragraphs so no one would cry “wall”. But I got wordy.

Hey I want this to succeed. But how these game systems pass the beta test I’ll never understand, only to lose a chunk of the player base a few weeks later from dissatisfaction over the same game systems they were testing. How many more mmo launches are going to experience this. If developers don’t learn from other failed launches, then its up to us as players to remind them. We know what factors add to a game’s long-lasting appeal. By “we” I do mean to include all gamers this time.

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No u keep hating GW2 5 months now , cause it have Pay-To-Win gemstore as u claimed
If u got a refund , how can u still reply me ? Did buy an other copy ? Ur older game didnt satisfie u ?

i consider it a clerical error. plus the fortune of a code working long after its intended use.

some of us have all the luck.

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check my youtube. the truth is out there sunshine.

I have checked it , with the pay to win gemstore :P
But how again can u reply to me , if u dont have a copy of GW2 ? :P

oh its a recent vid. quite funny how it came about. i guess even the hater has his day lol

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And there is our InfiniteRetro
5 months in MMO champion bushing GW2 , instead of getting a refund** :P

oh i got my refund cupcake. before bwe3. now, dont be mad that i was right. not even star wars failed this hard.

Already got a refund, but still patrolling boards for a game you’re not even playing.. being the proud keyboard warrior you are…

blah blah blah zzzzz lol dude, the hurt is strong in you. look, for every one of me, there were 50 of you folk crying, and screaming and threatening hate over negative gw2 opinions. my vids now have people coming back and apologising for their rudeness because they saw i was right.

lol not often, but i have my moments. thanks.

Sorry, but Lumines wins this round.

you mean the man kittenmembered who I AM from another forum wins the internet over me? ROFL

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oh i got my refund cupcake. before bwe3. now, dont be mad that i was right. not even star wars failed this hard.

In order to post u need a <<copy>> of GW2 :P
How can u speak ? :P

Edit: Stop using telepathy , and get out of my head !!!!!!!!!!!

check my youtube. the truth is out there sunshine.

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And there is our InfiniteRetro
5 months in MMO champion bushing GW2 , instead of getting a refund** :P

oh i got my refund cupcake. before bwe3. now, dont be mad that i was right. not even star wars failed this hard.

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excellent post. well before the betas i called that this game was going to have some MAJOR issues. during the betas, i also called it by saying that they were hiding issues/parts of the game (not for keeping it as a surprise when we play) but to actually make sure people wouldnt burn through the entire game in 3 beta weekends, 4 stress tests to realise what we all know now.

that the game was already broken, that the systems they used to talk down to every other mmo on the market actually worked out to be far worse than what is currently on offer.

thats why we couldnt beta test higher than level 30 zones. and as a result, look at all the issues:
- poor loot rewards
- ridiculously overtuned and shoddily presented dungeons
- broken storylines
- bugged storylines/DE’s
- now the introduced DR
- no authentication
- no ability to roll back characters if accounts are hacked (i have the wording in an email as proof)
- massive server queues for WvWvW
- basically arcade type spvp, which, i think Doom multiplayer did a better job at rewards (yes, doom had no rewards, and it still was better multiplayer)

on a final note, notice how all the butt kissing anet was doing prior to launch has all but evaporated in now replaced with north korean control over a game they simply cant control?

this is like gw1 economy on steroids.

oh well, i apologise on my behalf for failing as a beta tester. clearly me doing my vids on youtube, voicing my opinion on forums wasnt enough, as was shot down, threatened with all for voicing the very facts we now see at the mess known as Guild Wars 2.

and Arenanet had the NERVE to talk down to WoW, an 8 year and THE most successful MMO of all time.