Guild Wars 2

This will probably help build diversity, not forcing eles to go deep Water and Arcana… oh wait…

I’m in position 1 for more than 30 min ;-)

… and we present the new and improved queue system!
/lal

Well with this kind of skill lag it’s totally unplayable

I don’t really have anything to add to the discussion (like lotsa other as I can see!), but cannot pass being a poster in such a funny thread, before it gets locked!

Terrible idea, worse implementation… muahaaahah :-)
Remove orb stat buff anyway, they only help the stronger side even more… as stated a gazillion times already…
Bah, just wasting my time…

yiishing.9057:

MartyPartys.9187:

Sneak peak at the new leaderboard, what the [VII] vs [Scnd] match did to the rating (using the new formula)
http://i.imgur.com/dXB8FrO.png
Ratings are all really close, can’t wait for the [GD] match
(only 20v20 matches are taken into account on the screenshot)

I don’t believe this ranking shows anything. I agree that a leaderboard creates competetion and sets up a goal for guilds/players to climb ranks, but the GvG system in its current state is not really comparable. I actually hope guilds don’t take this to seriously and start playing GvG the way they were intended. Have good fights with even numbers, nothing more. We see guilds refusing GvGs, because they don’t want to lose rank points and hurt their reputation and that gets in the way of the actual GvG spirit. When this ladder starts making things complicated and constrain fights, it’s something to worry about, at least in my opinion.
Also, many guilds see GvGs as a one time thing. They fought Guild X once, end of story. I don’t know why so many guilds have problems with fighting the same opponent more than once. Thats the point were you actually can improve, and see and feel that improvement too. Hopefully we can put that mentality behind us and move on to a more competetive, but also fight oriented environment..

Very nicely put! Luckily the Anet Gods puts us in the right match-up in the right moment!
Will be a nice gvging with you guys! Can’t wait for it!

Yaro.3251:

Ogre.1750:

VII is looking amazing, they seem to have an edge over the rest. It’s close guys. It’s very close…

The next Big Thing.

Yeah, seems so.

Thanks VII for GvG tonight and congratulations for clear victory. Can you please stay on Kodash for some more weeks so we can meet more often?
Nah, I’m just kidding. Or am I?..

Anyway, it is exactly what we are looking for in GvG – opponents who are pushing us to the limit and beyond. I’d trade 1 hour or tonight’s GvG for a month of usual WvW raiding any day. Still thrilled…

Thanks GH for the great fights!
It was extremely intense and tough affair, sure looking to scramble again!

Very nice fights, even if it feels strange playing against Piken! :-)

It’s not like GvG guild aren’t already raiding their kitten off in WvW for months…

DevonCarver.5370:

I wanted to chime in a bit here. We appreciate that people really enjoy organizing their own combat in WvW and we are very aware of it. We’ve been discussing what can be done about that. However, WvW is its own game type and it requires attention specific to it. We are focused on making WvW as fun as it can possibly be and we will continue to make changes to WvW with that in mind. Our decisions regarding WvW will always have the needs of WvW paramount.

“You have been discussing what can be done about that”… and then decided to ignore it completely…
Did you see how many guilds are signed in GW2GVG and constantly organizing GvG? Do you think that is an answer which is gonna please your player base?

I’m gonna laugh so hard when CU comes along :-p

Keep up the good work Ogre!

I’m looking into this match-up!
Good fights to everyone!

Congratulations,
I’m sure I will see you guys in Cameloth Unchained!

Being able to join WvW maps without getting the world full error would be nice… kitten

1vX ? That is mesmer.
1vX killing and stomping 1 (+) and running away… that is thief.
1vX running away… that is Ele DD.

Perceiving is different than being.

Michael.3279:

I run a 0/0/10/30/30 Staff build with mostly PVT gear/Divinity runes and a few +healing power accessories.

PvE, sPvP, WvW… I can outlast pretty much anyone/anything 1v1 as well as bringing amazing utility to a group. I’ve dueled D/D Eles and win 8/10 fights.

I fail to see where the benefit is in D/D over staff… it might just be a min/max numbers thing, but on the actual field I never see it play out that way. Ride the Lightning is pretty boss, but as far as I can tell it’s pretty much the only advantage over staff… but being that I can catch runners with static field, etc… I’m not even sure it’s a benefit other than making an awesome reference to Metallica.

Any other Staff Eles out there? What are your experiences in relation to the D/D bandwagon? Does it really just come down to winning slightly quicker than a staff Ele? Why would a group EVER choose a D/D Ele over a Staff Ele in PvP OR PvE? I’m just blown away by the massive posts about D/D Ele and seemingly non-existent post regarding Staff Eles.

Discuss!

I’m playing a DD ele since release (when there were very very few out there) and I can tell you it’s the best roamer around, with thieves.

The nerf to RTL is very unwelcome and poorly done, they could have doubled my damage taken and I would accepted it better.

To me RTL is a spec definition, that makes DD unique, they shouldn’t have touched that…

Not everyone around is a class jumper bunker build 0-10-0-30-30, but if this is thread is an attempt to stop DD nerfs.. you’re welcome I’ll agree on everything you say. :-)

I would have preferred a double damage taken nerf… to a RTL nerf.
That’s a useless change, which actually doesn’t touch a bunker build at all.
Bah… they even buffed bunkers…

ETR.8152:

makku.2508:

Oglaf.1074:

D/D has it all

Damage, control, tank, healing, and tons of escape/engage abilities.

And if you get downed, by some miracle, you just Vapour Form back to your own zerg or into a keep. kittenol.

It reminds me of Bright Wizards in WAR; another game where casters are (or were, I guess) totally overpowered in melee.

You’re either ignorant or have serious l2p issues.

For some reason people in this game assume each and every D/D ele they run across uses the very same build they stigmatized as “D/D bunker”. Problem is, that’s not reality.

People run into a 0/10/0/30/30, full PVT + clerics D/D Ele. That guy can take alot of punishment (his damage output is pathetic tho), and escapes 5 people chasing him. -> “OMG D/D SO TANKY!”

Then people run into a D/D that uses 0/20/0/20/30 or w/e, lots of knights/valkyries, maybe even some zerker in there. That guy delivers quite some burst and DPS -> “OMG D/D SO MUCH DAMAGE!”.

And then they come to the following conclusion: “OMG D/D SO TANKY & D/D SO MUCH DAMAGE!”. This is nonsense tho, because basically, these have been 2 different builds.

I play a staff ele or warrior. But I have to agree here. D/D ele isnt that big of a deal. I mean an ele built to take hits can take hits? Who knew. I laugh when a d/d ele tries to “kill” my war in 1v1.

You laugh because people jumped on the bandwagon of those mythic D/D ele, which are PTV + cleric, a very strong bunker build with low damage.
That is not the only way to build and play a D/D ele.
You will find some old eles playing differently, cause you get bored after a while of just slowly consuming down enemies.

Kellhus.8071:

Except that the D/D build in question puts out no damage.

The ONLY thing a D/D ele has that makes people mad is RTL, and it’s because it’s a ridiculously good escape for when things are going south. Not a single other aspect of a D/D ele, in a bunker build, cannot be replicated by another class.

If Eles didn’t have RTL, there would be zero complaints about the class.

If eles didn’t have RTL, I wouldn’t have played one since release.
Really the problem is not RTL, and the build everyone is complaining about it’s a very tanky build with low damage.
The problem is too much healing capability in that spec.

Personally I don’t run that build, which I find extremely boring, but a 0/30/0/20/20 with berserker acc/rings/amu and PVT armor… at least I do very good damage that way and have much more fun.
If you would remove RTL, then D/D spec wouldn’t make any sense and you sould remove stealth or other good escapes.

I play a D/D elementalist since release (especially in WvW, but in SPvP too) and I agree it’s a very good roamer with the strongest ability to escape (largely to RtL truth to be told).
I’ve typically run with variation of 0-10-0-30-30 or 0-0-10-30-30 or similar ones.
From that to being overpowered it’s a very long shot, surely we cannot tank immortally AND burst everyone down in one single spec, but sure we are very adaptable and fun to play, especially in WvW.

Actually I would like to have more viable spec, which we do not have at the moment, considering the great amount of buggy talents and lucklusters weapons.

You nowadays see more DD elementalists around, not because it’s overpowered, but because it’s probably one of the few decent specs.

Chris Whiteside.6102:

to talk about recent updates to the game and our philosophy for Guild Wars 2 moving forward.

…actually looks moving backward, but go on, please! lol

What’s the point of this thread?
You are not getting any real answer from this liars.
You can only leave the game considering Anet changed their own rules.
Liars.

Feedback? Why and about what?
Feedback to liars?

What’s the point of feedback? We have a thread with 10 thousand posts of negative feedback on introducing Ascended gear (aka grinding – treadmill or if yuo prefer “progression”), asking them to maintain years of promise… to what avail?

Liars.

“Here’s what we believe: If someone wants to play for a thousand hours to get an item that is so rare that other players can’t realistically acquire it, that rare item should be differentiated by its visual appearance and rarity alone, not by being more powerful than everything else in the game. Otherwise, your MMO becomes all about grinding to get the best gear. We don’t make grindy games — we leave the grind to other MMOs.”
-Mike Obrien, President of Arenanet

Fun impacts loot collection. The rarest items in the game are not more powerful than other items, so you don’t need them to be the best. The rarest items have unique looks to help your character feel that sense of accomplishment, but it’s not required to play the game. We don’t need to make mandatory gear treadmills, we make all of it optional, so those who find it fun to chase this prestigious gear can do so, but those who don’t are just as powerful and get to have fun too.”
– Colin Johanson

Lies, lies and more lies.

“I’d like to respond to concerns players have raised about ascended items. Please keep in mind that we’re releasing this as one portion of a massive November update that introduces and improves many aspects of challenge, progression, and rewards. With this and upcoming updates, we view ourselves as introducing large amounts of content with supporting systems and features, akin to an expansion pack, building on Guild Wars 2 through a series of live releases. So it’s important for us to be able to add an expansion pack’s worth of progression and rewards to support that content.

Our goal is not to create a gear treadmill. Our goal is to ensure we have a proper progression for players from exotic up to legendary without a massive jump in reward between the two. We will slowly add the remaining ascended gear items and legendary items in future updates to allow people time to acquire them as we add exciting new content that deserves exciting rewards. We will not be adding a new tier of gear every 3 months that we expect everyone to chase after and then get the next set and so on.

Ascended and infusion rewards will be available in both PvE and WvW over time, and be made available through all sorts of content around the world including existing content. PvP will remain unaffected to ensure our intended PvP balance going forward. We are also working on other reward and progression systems for the game that tie into current and new content and features. As you know we care very much about your support and opinion and are listening intently to what you say.
Finally we look forward to hearing your thoughts on the upcoming content, and we will ensure we share our thoughts with you on the experiences we share in the Lost Shores."

Chris Whiteside – Studio Design Director

Lying about lies, that must be a sad joke.

I’m disgusted.

Arena Net made a statements with their manifesto, with their declarations and years of development, and after just 3 months they turn that table around completely.
Liars!