Guild Wars 2

Bhawb.7408:

Someone dug up a 25 day old thread to complain about the devs. That isn’t helpful, isn’t constructive, all it does is make it even harder for them to be open about what they are doing, or risk the wrath of keyboard warriors.

I didn’t dig this up, It was the last forum I visited before I stopped visiting these forums altogether. I was under the impression the balance patch was today. Sure the people that visit these everyday would have known about the push back, but for someone that hasn’t touched them for 25 days will feel a bit upset. Also hard to be constructive on the subject of a patch date, complaining that what he said ended up being false is valid.

On the subject of “The complainers are the reason we are not seeing balance notes/dates.”. Is completely invalid. Have you forgotten the reason MMO’s have forums? The only reason we have complainers is because we have no information, no information no constructive feedback.

Now I’m not one to be a hypocrite so here is some constructive feedback. Stop giving out dates altogether because I do indeed understand that there can be hiccups in the development process. Also Instead of posting “balance previews” in the forum section only.. , maybe consider making a blog post that shows up on under the News feed on the Guild wars 2 homepage linking to a forum that others can share their thoughts on. Monitor it highly the first couple days to get ride of derails and trolls. Is this idea good? Probably not, but it would have stopped me from bumping this dead forum and pointing out that what Jon said was wrong.

Romek.4201:

People alraedy quitting cause the only thing what they earned in over a year in this pvp was there rank and they worked hard for – but now every Bob can farm it in some days without even PVPing.

Hey now… I’m innocent.

Stealth.9324:

Hey there, I am running typical Cantrip Build in Tourney. I have no problem to survive with this build. What I want to ask us tips on how to deal with condition with Bob build with only 10,15 in Arcana. That reduces a lot in term of our Condition Cleanse. I have no doubt that the build works wonder in team fight, what I have trouble with is 1on1 duel and I can not survive Conditions with BoB build, exactly the same and I tried with all the weapon set, some works better than others but overall result is still very hard time against Conditions. thanks.

Conditions are one tough game mechanic. More so seen in those 2v2 custom arena lobbies, I remember joining and watching two necro’s hold the floor for 2 map rotations. Anyways back on topic, I see Asurmir trying to help you out
(in most cases taking the words right out of my mouth ty)

You can get up to 5 conditions removed just by switching to water~cleansing wave~cleansing fire. Which is very easy to cast and be on your way. Helpful? Maybe. What matters is how you use them. I can sit here and talk about every rotation and tactic I picked up while playing, but I feel the best way to learn a class is first hand experience.

Try adding your skills to your body clock (“What the heck does that mean bob”-you)
What I mean is try to get your rotations down to the point where you are subconsciously already switching to skills as soon as they’re off CD. Sounds weird but hear me out, this game is really big on keeping you focused at the middle of the screen. Its only natural to start developing such skills when you play a class/build long enough. Embrace it and challenge yourself to do just that. (Cntr+shift+H if you’re feeling crazy) Its the greatest tip I can give. Not only will it help you theorycraft your own build but once you know what skills to dodge, what AOE not to stand in and what rotation will work best with your play-style against other classes. Its a breeze to make those life saving split second decisions once all of it comes naturally. It’s a good skill that can’t be picked up from reading about it, thats why you don’t see a step by step guide on how to play this build. Everyone is different

On that note, the only other thing I can say that will truly help is… Practice makes perfect.

Asurmir.7956:

This right here is like my own personal mantra written by another man. Bob, I admire your endeavor.

I also happened to see that you’ve played two builds that I played as well. Though, I dont go for might stacks via Battle. I figure, sense we are a close-quarters profession, Hydromancy’s chill will help with slowing enemy CDs.

Have you tried 10/20/10/20/10, taking Earth’s Embrace and substituting armor of earth with Arcane Wave. Since you like might stacks the blast will help, and you still have Armor of Earth when you get low.

I, myself, play with two arcanes (wave and blast) because I figure that the best way to ensure my survival is by killing my opponent as quickly as possible.

10/20/10/20/10 is indeed a great build. I might just have to give it a go again. I’ve been trying to think of which cantrip to drop so what you mentioned would work out perfectly. I just remember feeling weak with that 10 in earth but that was before I started might stacking.

I think if I started running two arcane skills I would use the shield with wave. Whats your average crit with blast?

Stealth.9324:

Well done, Bob. I like your play style and video, just wondering how does it go for you when it comes to 1vs1. I tried it but it lacks too much of survivability, but again probably I am not that skill yet.

I would say with the new build I’m working with.. its decent. Don’t get me wrong they still work great but for the cheese builds that some Engi, Ranger,thief and Mes run around with it can feel like hitting a brick wall sometimes. So I’m currently working towards something that might fit this meta better than the updated pre April build.

innocent ouarior.1954:

Nice vids, great teamplay.

However I fail to understand how is 25 air better than 30 water.

I guess it depends on play style. Sure the vulnerability on crit may not seem worth it, I think of it as just another boon the enemy has to take off. In most cases saving my fire or bleed from getting removed. I’ve had success of getting 10+ stacks (very quickly) while auto attacking in water on a bunker. Also switching to berserker will drastically improve results.

Im not ignorant of the survivability of the water trait line, but my goal is to get away from both water and arcana trait line. Its mostly due to my personal vendetta with the bunker builds. lol

Build update, I’ll get that video up soon-ish. Hope this gets some of you out of that 0-10-0-30-30 rut hehe

I believe there is more playable builds than the 0/10/0/30/30 but sadly people will stick to what is easier and no build, even mine-can compare to the amount of crutches this build offers new players. I’m not sure if there are people like me that have just given up on the ele community because of this fact, so we keep our builds/guides for guild or close friends. You know, people that are willing to try something new, without trashing it because its not 30 in arcana. shrug IMO of course. I do hope another build does shine through like the bunker one.

Mirta.5029:

Justbob.5897:

I remember reading somewhere that Anet has confirmed and said they had a small team working on a console version. That was last year though and whether or not they are still working on it is anyone’s guess really. Lets not forget Sony’s big purchase of Gaikai. Having Guild wars up in the clouds could mean no long downloads, the possibility of no downtime for patches and having the servers take the majority of the processing which could mean 60fps no lag huge WvW battles. (Not too certain on how Anet servers would work with a cloud gaming service, thinking outside the box here lol. Who knows that could just be how MMo’s of the future will be played)
IMO: As long as they focus on improving the game, I’m fine with having a team in the background doing this. Just means more people will be able to enjoy gw2. Like people have said, if anyone could pull off a console MMo it would be anet.

sources: http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/02/15/guild-wars-2-console-version-confirmed/

cloud is not a good idea. What you get is latency issues with it. Even on single player games.

Oh, I know lol. Thats why I said future. I was thinking cloud would run perfectly if google does finish their Fiber project within a reasonable amount of time. Not holding my breath tho.

I remember reading somewhere that Anet has confirmed and said they had a small team working on a console version. That was last year though and whether or not they are still working on it is anyone’s guess really. Lets not forget Sony’s big purchase of Gaikai. Having Guild wars up in the clouds could mean no long downloads, the possibility of no downtime for patches and having the servers take the majority of the processing which could mean 60fps no lag huge WvW battles. (Not too certain on how Anet servers would work with a cloud gaming service, thinking outside the box here lol. Who knows that could just be how MMo’s of the future will be played)
IMO: As long as they focus on improving the game, I’m fine with having a team in the background doing this. Just means more people will be able to enjoy gw2. Like people have said, if anyone could pull off a console MMo it would be anet.

sources: http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/02/15/guild-wars-2-console-version-confirmed/

Rubajz.3290:

I think this game really need some serious punishment for people who leave during match or dont enter the match at all. When playing solo queue too often somebody leave match and that ruin everything for the other four people. Some glory penalty and if that person leave more than 5 times disable spvp queue for some time (ideally for ever). Recent patch about disconnects didnt change anything and 4 of 10 matches I dont finish in five players. I really think one person should not be able to ruin everything for other four.

Instead of punishing the players that decide to leave (Note: people do have other reasons to leave early, other than game issues) they should fix it so nobody would want to leave. “Like being matched up with ranks 1-10 when you’re 30 or higher against pre-mades” -popular complaint.

Honestly I find it more annoying playing with a couple friends yet we get 1-2 solo que people that don’t want to communicate or simply read chat.. So they end up ignoring us, being essentially an empty spot on the team and ruining it for the rest of us. Should there be a similar system in place to punish those players? No.

JCorcoran.4081:

Nice video!

I’ve been trying to do the exact same thing with my build – something with a little less survival than a bunker making up for that loss with damage.

I’m currently at 10/20/0/25/15. I think the 2% damage per boon might be better than the 5 more fire and minor trait. Also, I picked VI in the fire line (10 % more damage in fire) because I find that I’m usually in fire when trying to dish out some hurt or finish someone off.

Still working on the gear to go with it, aside from the obvious choices for weapon sigils. Your choices are interesting, maybe I’ll give them a go. Thanks again for sharing.

I overlooked the trait that gives 2% damage per boon. This made me want to double check everything and I’m currently testing an alteration that is impressing me so far. (tyvm) Especially with Temple of the silent storms, 3 buffs as the secondary. Not to mention people tend to hold points better when there isn’t a shiny orb in the middle of the map. So dropping bunkers/roamers quickly is a must.

The weapon sigils were really me just testing things out, trying to get as much synergy as possible. When I heard they fixed the weapon swap sigils for ele with the way I play, I knew it would be a good way for me to get some extra might. Also if Im doing well the extra crit chance i get is always nice

I think they do burn, and if you are not spec into bunker they do decent damage.

Thank you for the positive feedback guys!

@Strifeshines
Auras are my favorite. I try to have 1 on at all times during a fight. Can really make a difference. (against melee)

@Chompie
Yeah I learned quickly that clips even if edited nicely, really didn’t shine a light on how a build works and what its good for. I wish 8-team ques weren’t awful or I would be playing those lol. They really show the pros and cons of going against different team make ups.

Ohai other infamous D/D eles,

I wanted to post some builds that (for me at least) yield a balance between damage/crit and healing/condition removal. Something that could truly test your dodging and attunement swap skills. These builds are a bit on the glass cannon side, so might take a bit of getting used to.

Video
1:15-20-0-20-15 Not a frag, full tourney game
2:10-25-0-25-10 :Video coming soon

1 15-20-0-20-15 Build Link (Old)
2 10-25-0-25-10 Build Link (New(YaY!))

Note: These build works better if in a tournament setting, 5v5 or less. Due to the squishy nature you will most likely not find success in hot-join 8v8.

Update 5/13.

Finally think I got into a decent place in the new match making system. Also been working on our teams strat. (its going really well) lol

new video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmrdoppyUP0

Imma keep making Ele Spvp videos so if you want to see more of them give me some feedback

Yeah, lets try not to bring up nerfs. Again thread is about the new map (opinions:likes dislikes about it) and how you play your ele in it.

So I’ve done very light reading on the ele forums you know, avoiding the hatred…lol
IMO I think todays patch was a step in the right direction and it’ll help get the bandwagon eles back to their preferred class. but i digress.

I made a video of my Auramancer build and running with guild/friends in this new map. I did my job pretty well with our team strategy but with this Orb being in play. other eles I’ve talked to today are picking up from this is “Go for the most survivability” which is just a step backwards for the ele community so i want to bring my auramancer build to the table in hopes of switching our conversations somewhere positive. Also this game was against 5 warriors thought it was pretty funny.

Point of this thread: To show you in the video that you don’t have to revert to old lame builds and to give a bit more insight on how to play this map. Also to discuss if any of you have tried a build you would never think of running in spvp.

/friendly discussion

You just said “I love how in this game no form of CC last more then a few seconds” yet you want there to be a cool down for CC? Just no, your argument is invalid.

Thanks Intigo
I’ll start breaking into the ol’ google research, really interested in Dxtory, saw your videos and mmmm that clear picture is great.

After googling: I found a more in-depth dxtory/x264 codec guide.

http://forums.station.sony.com/ps2/index.php?threads/redcats-guide-to-recording-in-planetside-2-dxtory-ffsplit-obs.80232/

Getting a great picture without fps spikes and amazing file size. (720p = 110mb/min something around those lines)

Don’t think ill go too crazy and put it up to 1080p because personally I never load videos on youtube above 720p. Also with this picture quality I really don’t see the point lol.

Would highly recommend other people to give this a shot.

I usually wouldn’t post a video on the forums but I feel social and looking for some tips when editing videos and such.

Gameplay: Nothing special I will admit it was just a couple hot join games, tried to sync up some of the game play with the music as best I can with a log of maybe 2 hours in my editing software. Call it a test video if you want. lol
Fraps: I record at 1080p/30 FPS/half screen ( Just an HDD size problem not performance ) If you have a better video capture program let me know.
Camtasia Studio 8: Got it as a gift.
Intro: Lack thereof If you make them, some tips would be awesome.

Also when recording sPvP, I’m not too sure what people want to see. As far as:

1: Do I need to include every finisher move? Not sure if people will accuse me for actually not killing them.

2: Should I even bother to record hot join games or save my space for guild tourneys?

3: Full games or good fights?

General question that I haven’t yet seen discussed:
1:In your own opinion whats more entertaining to watch, sPvp or WvW.

This really isn’t all about me I’m sure there are some of you, that want to show off their skills but are held back by similar issues. So if you can lend a helping hand on this topic that would be greatly appreciated.

Side note before anyone says the obvious: I know reducing my resolution down will increase the amount I can record, but with my screen it needs to be 1080p or i will have windows clogging up my screen and the text glitches. Tis no fun for anyone.

Guild News
Edited a couple parts in the original post. again
We moved to BG today, kinda random but we feel if there is a better place to build a strong guild why stay on a server with already too much zerg JQ had the numbers but none of the skill and hoping this will be a different case here.

sPvP News (placeholder post for future tpvp teams and ranks for [Noiz])

Your Name Here

Make Your Best Whale Noise [Noiz]
Server BlackGate
Type Casual to hardcore, single rep guild.
Brief History Legion moved over from Aion wanting to ground its roots in Guild Wars 2.
Website http://makeyourbestwhalenoise.shivtr.com/
Age requirement 18
Voice Vent
Motto Real life first, we are not going anywhere/Build it and they will come.

“Why such a crazzzyyy name?” -You

“Well, a legendary Guild needs an unforgettable name.”-Me

Our Focus
Get the right people in charge of their favorite part of the game ensuring nonstop content for even the most Casual to Hardcore player. That includes customs guild ranks with separate leaders for each WvW, PvE, and sPvP. We are building this guild from the ground up. One member at a time, building a strong core in which we can keep adding to it-trying things other guilds would only dream of doing. We have just moved to our permanent home and plan on being a great addition to the WvW scene. We want to build a sPvp community were you are not afraid to try/master a new and unique build, we want you to be consistently out of paid tourney tickets not playing ‘who has the biggest stack’. We see YOU spamming LFG _ in LA we are not giving PvE the short straw here, with near future plans for a Legendary Weapon pool and fantastic dungeon runs. There are reasons for everyone to Join!

Future plans
Trained Pods (group of whales) scattered all over the WvW maps helping were help is needed. We have all the tools we just need YOU!

We also want to start a pool for legendary weapons. For the most helpful of members or it will be a rotation type thing.

Time Zone
Round the clock awesomeness (EST mostly)

Recruitment Info
For More info or if you want to apply whisper/mail in-game {Just Bob} or you can post/pm me here.
2 week trial period Helps both you and we the guild to see if you are a good fit.

Home World: BlackGate
Guild Name: Make Your Best Whale Noise
Guild Website: http://whalenoise.shivtr.com/
In-Game Contact: Just Bob
Focus: PvX
Quick Notes: Join us, ever growing guild looking for skilled and determined players.

After a month break that included the whole lost shores update, I played the game to the present slowly gathering mats for my legendary, doing some sPvp experimenting with my own builds that I have been working on. Going into WvW everyday running around trying to cap things, going into jumping puzzles. Hell yesterday I finished off the rest of the jumping puzzles on my achievement list just because I can. The moral is, If it wasn’t because of you guys complaining on the forums I would have no idea ascension gear is such a big deal in WvW. I would not have noticed the drops, I did in fact notice and still hate the fact everyone is in LA doing fractals BUT I adjusted and just started to look and put together groups in LA and then move out to planned dungeon. I play this game more than casual but I spread my agenda out I do one thing one day, and some other thing the next. Anet is not ruining the game YOU are.

[shocking right? No.]

I feel so bad for new people coming to the game.. “I think ill hop on the forums and l2p while its downloading” and they are confronted with your crap. I enjoy the heck out of this game, and so do the people replying to said people making post questioning your bullkitten. To be honest I wish Anet had more time to remove said posts. I see a bunch of people listing the same problem over and over but instead of maybe thinking you are using the game wrong you instantly think its a bug and the game is broken, you don’t say anything in these posts that will benefit the community. This game is not even half a year old yet. My friends and I like to call this time, the infancy of a MMO. People go all out with these bugs like they wasted 2 years playing with them crying screaming like a little kid saying they are going to quit for attention? LOL~ I’m baffled to say the least.

[Learn anything yet kids?]

As of right now everything that could possibly be wrong with the game has be said, seen by Anet and flamed upon by you. For everyone else that agrees with me. Don’t read the post these guys are making. Don’t waste your time replying. If you want to see a “right now” change in the game all of us need to change our attitude, I see way to many people jumping to the punch with a quick smart kitten line to a simple question that some poor dude felt like engaging the general public instead of tabbing out and to google it. That, right there, is why chat is dead and why all you will only see people spamming for groups. (yes yes, typing is so very hard during combat. I get it..)

[Its alright, these things can be fixed.]

People, end game is your choice now. I hate to say it but the people that find themself with nothing to do, that does not give you the right to engage yourself in forum pvps. You are in fact playing the game wrong. Its so true you guys over look it. This game is not WoW, it is not Rift.. ect. Guess what its Guild Wars 2. I have been there I came from a Korean grind feast MMO. With the headstart I was in full exotic within the first week of the release. I found myself with nothing to do so I stopped. I’ll save you the time I took to realize this. Play it like Gw2 and nothing else. Don’t rush things. Take your time. Want that armor set from ____? well there you go you got something to do this week. Don’t over run the damn thing. Why do you think we only get 60 per 1 run of the day.

[I have played 400 hours of this game and I payed 80$ for it. No money wasted for me, I could quit right now and feel i got my moneys worth plus more. Heck I feel bad for not buying gems]

Last but not least, and I’ll say it again because I know some people will have missed it in my post. And apparently forgot when they picked up the game. Buy-to-play. Its this wonderful new thing were if you have kitten to do in real life, or you are bored with the game. You can just stop. You are NOT wasting money. When the game is right you can come back and play it. Please just let the people who enjoy the game enjoy the game.

I could go on, But I feel it would be a waste of time as most of you reading this are just picking out sentences to throw back at me and say I am wrong. Before you all get defensive, I know of everything that everyone is kitten off about. I’m no longer in the dark. I am saying all of this after 2 weeks of watching the forums. I still play the game fine and everything you guys are “quitting” over is pathetic.

Razarei.2809:

Justbob.5897:

I see what you’re saying but if you look from my Pov, I think our time is better spent figuring out builds/rotation/gear we could do to not die in three seconds.. or is that too much to ask? Personally for PvE

http://www.gw2build.com/builds/simulator.php#1.1.1.0.13.0.0.0.0.0.2.8.11.18.24.0.0.0.5.4.12.19.0.0.31.0.0.48.54.0.0.0.0.30.10.10.20.0

I like this build easy to get to 15 stacks of might (easy with warrior in party to get to 25 if they are running a good hammer build), not to too terrible squishy and great dps. But you know instead of people adding on or improving the build I got going.. Eveyone is worried about us not 1 rotation nuking things.

I dare you to try this build in PvP omg I lol’d when you said this is your build. 1.9k toughness, are you kidding me? 2.2k attack?

/deaths please. I bet it’s near 100.

Lol yeah my deaths are quiet high.. mainly due to figuring out which works and which doesn’t for my play style. Big majority is thanks “Ruins of Orr” Imaright? Please take your childish elitest bull back to LoL or DoA please and thank you

Ursu.4163:

Warriors to do the same damage press 2 keys..well maybe 3 if they are not lazy.
I mean, if I want to play a game that takes me 400-500 apm to be good, hell I could be a semi-pro Starcraft II player and make some money out of online tournaments/streaming.

So what you are saying is you want to be lazy and be able to faceroll the keyboard and be awesome? I think some people have trouble understanding the idea of the combat in this game that Anet has brought to the table. There is so much more then just the damage you do and the HP you have, last time I checked this is not a turn based game.. You do not stand still and expect to win. There are so many skills/tools that can work to our advantage and yet people like you still waste our time with your “Lets compare too different classes, and talk about damage and how everyone else needs a nerf and we need a buff” and hell you added on top of that with talking about a game that in no aspect is similar to gw2. Please tell me more about how much you are contributing to this new community?

I see what you’re saying but if you look from my Pov, I think our time is better spent figuring out builds/rotation/gear we could do to not die in three seconds.. or is that too much to ask? Personally for PvE

http://www.gw2build.com/builds/simulator.php#1.1.1.0.13.0.0.0.0.0.2.8.11.18.24.0.0.0.5.4.12.19.0.0.31.0.0.48.54.0.0.0.0.30.10.10.20.0

I like this build easy to get to 15 stacks of might (easy with warrior in party to get to 25 if they are running a good hammer build), not to too terrible squishy and great dps. But you know instead of people adding on or improving the build I got going.. Eveyone is worried about us not 1 rotation nuking things.

Made myself some gear, (pic below) full set of it is decent. 30 glob of ectoplasm, 30 powerful venom sacs and some gossamer will get you it.

So I have a level 80 ele, put quiet the amount of hours into this toon. When the forums came up I was excited to see what builds everyone came up with.. but no I’m greeted by thousands and thousands of threads complaining that our class is underpowered and that our class has the most bugged skills (which almost all of them are NOT game breaking). As I do not want to get into all the bugs that I found because they have been listed a bunch of times I would like to remind everyone of this post.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/news/Balancing-GW2/first#post92064

So just keep playing your ele work on your PvP and PvE and when this all gets fixed you’ll be happy to have stuck to the class and able to beast. Don’t re roll an obvious OP class just to get glory in sPvP. When Anet has collected enough data I’m sure 99% of the problems with this class will melt away. Chillax brohams and enjoy GW2