Warrior is not wanted in wvw zergs anymore, only thing left is a banner bot in pve thats it, ok roamer vs scrubs but anyone half good will kill warrior.
agree, damage is very poor sustain is ok ish , range increase and skill cd lower please, and damage buff, full zerker 15 might stacks 2k crit i’am done.
A good warrior is still an asset to any squad. You have one of the best elites in the game, and you’re one of the top damage dealers in the squad. That goes for both condi and power btw.
As far as guild groups go, who cares? The game in its current state is about as competitive as a bag of rice.
Good valid points, but top damage dealer in a squad i’m not sure on that one, my rev out dps my warrior so does a DH.
trust me Spartacus you do not want wvw builds in pvp.
No, you trust me, I’d much rather have the wvw build system in pvp than the current straight jacket that is the amulet system. Anyway im not arguing for the wvw system to be placed in pvp, im arguing that the amulet system should NOT be transferred to WvW.
As others have posted on here, this is a terrible idea and anyone who is a serious pvp/wvw player will tell you the same thing.
Totally understand your valid points, but lets just test it for now, all i’m reading is mostly shock to the system, lets rock this joint.
…and the worst game fixing idea of 2017 goes to drum roll…… The OP of this thread.
Armor is EASILY acquirable. There is absolutely no need to lock people into fixed stats. Have you seen pvp? All anet does is remove amulets and it’s still unbalanced and not fun. Stats aren’t the issue, it’s the power creep introduced by HoT.
You also mention that necros are overpowered and the basis of your reasoning behind this.. really? It’s honestly a L2P issue. I’ve fought some great necros in my time and I have to say that all but one of them were power. As for 100 stacks of bleeding, you would die before the second tick.
have you met a viper/trailblazer nerco with deathly chill yet?, like i said requires testing, could work maybe not, why not give it a try, L2p will not save u when your out of condi clears.
So its down to build diversity rather than balance for most of you?, interesting, i’v become a raid boss in wvw i had a 100 stacks of bleeding on me, needless to say i dropped in 2 seconds lol.
I keep seeing build diversity in wvw as a counter to this debate, what wvw are u guys playing?, run condis or guard bunker or go home, really, trust me Spartacus you do not want wvw builds in pvp.
How it will work with other trait lines ? , Are Defense/Discipline lines still mandatory ?
Also power creeping in general.
Agreed Warrior requires a full redesign to bring up to par with all the other classes, because calling a warrior a warrior in gw2 is wrong at this point in time.
OP didn’t ask for the amulet system….. All he asked for was to remove PvE stats from WvW. That in no way means you have to go to the amulet system. Most of these comments aren’t even relevant to what was proposed.
When did PvP get another system? I must be out of the loop
If you look at the title, its clear that when he said make it like PvP he means to not allow PvE stats, becauses that’s exactly what this thread is about.
You guys all assumed he wanted the amulet system when he made 0 indication of that.
Yes a amulet system, or amulets in each gear part so u can mix match your build, but i think a amulet system is better for balancing.
OP didn’t ask for the amulet system….. All he asked for was to remove PvE stats from WvW. That in no way means you have to go to the amulet system. Most of these comments aren’t even relevant to what was proposed.
When did PvP get another system? I must be out of the loop
If you look at the title, its clear that when he said make it like PvP he means to not allow PvE stats, becauses that’s exactly what this thread is about.
You guys all assumed he wanted the amulet system when he made 0 indication of that.
My pov I interpret OP’s post as “literally the PvP system” where it’s basically amulet + traits, weapons…
Do I get a refund for my many sets of WvW infusions that costed me many laurels to obtain?
Do I get a refund of thousands of gold, mats etc for crafting my maxed out gear for WvW?
Do I even get a build template when I switch to this system in WvW?
Like how would this fix anything? Then people will complain about “X amulet is too OP, NERF IT!” People will still run the same, monotonous OP meta builds as is now.
I think what needs to happen is a sharp examination of traits and make the next x-pac elite specs + core specs relevant for WvW gameplay be it zerging, roaming, GvG, small-scale havoc, scouting, 1v1 etc. I remember reading a decent thread that suggested secondary roles or something as an additonal feature in WvW. Like being an assaulter gave you X kit/skill/benefit against X in combat or whatever. I believe more in freedom of choice than being constrained to what PvP’s system is built upon.
Your points are very vaild, that goes for me to, the gold refund for laurels for you to buy amulets and runes and sigils with badgers , zero food in the new wvw, and yes we can get legend weapons great idea, all gear can still be used in pve, this would open up new tactics in wvw, really all i want is fights and more fights on a even footing, it would really come down to skill based instead of stat based, we really need to test it before we really make up our minds could be amazing or really bad, imo this would help the devs balance only two modes to balance less work load more balance updats win win.
To have balance you must have a solid balanced base foundation, wvw has become boring, he who has the most condi necros wins, amazing build diversity, Amulet would fix wvw for the good, sometimes you need to think outside the box, i hope anet will just test it before hand, if it sucks it sucks.
As i’m playing with the zergs in squad I was the only warrior out of 50 people, this is all the time 1 or 2 warriors, also guild groups set up is zero warriors, i’m worried for my warrior in wvw, guys just look around and count the warriors once the back bone now down the toilet.
I know i would get this reaction, but think about everyone on the same level of stats plus will help new players coming to the game mode, i guess Mike O’Brien was correct wvw players really love pve more.
Get hit with condis wipe condis, Same condis can no longer apply within 15sec, game balanced, thiefs sacrifice damge for evades or evades for damage, this is the very reason warrior was nerfed, high survivability with high damage, nerfed to the ground, but also with high tell attacks which sucks.
Runes up to you, but your a front line tanker, wait till your fully got those wvw buffs to , just stupid, when your guards are supporting you aswell with protection and healing, screw support you got guards for that roll, run in and jump on people till you die should be last to go.
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