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Congrats Cybroz of [ONE] on 250k kills

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People are sooo jealous of it here its hilarious

Congrats to the guy

Jealous? of what that a guy can get kills in one of the most dumbed down skill less “kitten kitten run around as a zerg blob and press 1” PVP modes?

yeah im real jealous of that lol.

Congrats Cybroz of [ONE] on 250k kills

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good lord how does someone play this skill less crap for that long to get that many kills.

Every class has and should have a weakness

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My warriors biggest weakest is all the baddies running to the forums to cry nerf after I wreck them. I swear, it will be his undoing.

playing a warrior is Hard amirite? thats why my warrior is named “Faceroll Wynn” its amazing how my production, survivability and killing potential has gone up because I rolled a warrior.

they are truely the faceroll easymode class.

and I dont know what the developers were thinking. “hey guys lets make a class that has the best base HP, really good armor, high burst damage, High CC, great utility skills, high passive regen and great movement”

yeah that sounds real balanced.

[Engineer] Has anyone seen A.E.D?

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I have 2 problems with the AED

1) for being a such a risk vs reward skill it has a very long cooldown why should i take the risk when i can have a consistent 5k heal every 20 seconds on med kits.

2) its tool belt skill is just bad i mean i guess its good for bombgineers but for other engineer builds the idea of getting up close is just a death sentence.

End the casual blobbing Zerg gameplay

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except thats exactly what happens in this garbage as game, you follow one guy around stack as close as possible to him and spam and you win.

AOE would kill Idiots who stand in its circles which are shown on the god kitten ground thats how dumbed down this game is, you don’t even have to predict where an AOE lands the game will tell you.

oh no you might have to move away from each for a second instead of running around with your kittens up each others kitten. god forbid.

smart GOOD players will move when they see an AOE targeter so they might get hit by the first hit but bad players will get destroyed which is what AOE does. it destroys bad players.

End the casual blobbing Zerg gameplay

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Bright wizards destroy kittenty casual players which is what AOE does, it destroys those players that suck at the game and are just there to spam one skill over and over because they can’t think for themselves.

GW2 WvW promotes skilless mindless kittenty casual oriented … follow one guy and win gameplay.

I played Chaos in WAR my small group had no problem dealing with Bright wizards, we didn’t blob up like mindless zergers so their AOE that could hit everyone was nullified. you are all scared of mass AOE because honestly you guys probably suck at this game and are those skill-less casuals that need to blob to win.

all arenanet needs to do now is add a follow command and you guys will really not need to think about positioning and playing the game.

End the casual blobbing Zerg gameplay

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Making CC more prominent = more CC (aka more players) wins.
Removing downed = more burst (aka more players) wins.
Removing aoe caps = more aoes (aka more players) wins.

Your suggestions would just allow large groups to wipe out their opposition even more effectively than they do now. What chance would a smaller group have against an 80 man zerg with perma all boons, near complete condi immunity and insanely high heal rates (at least 50k hps)?

what 80 man zerg do you know that has condi immunity. if you are talking about fields with the AOE cap removed it would be extremely dangerous for that large amount of people to stand near each other long enough to get a condi immunity field going.

AOEs aren’t everything GOOD groups will learn to move away from each other so they limited the amount of people hit by the AOE, but still be able to support each other. this is how it was in Dark Age of camelot where a memorize could last up to a minute long … yes you heard that right imagine being CCed for a minute. it sucked but good groups learned how to avoid it zerger blob players got destroyed by it.

now I am not saying CC should be that long here but it definitely should be much much more prominent

honestly if you go up against an 80 man zerg it probably wont be for the best but what my suggestions do get rid of is this stupid blobbing strategy where you just see a mass of players stacked as close as they can on top of one another.

that is terrible mechanics

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End the casual blobbing Zerg gameplay

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If the zerg really was mindless then they would have melted instantly to aoe. It looks like the zerg you fought was an organized one, which Anet has no problems with.

can’t melt a zerg when you can only hit 5 with an AOE, and THATS the problem

Organized … if you want to call following one player around in a giant zerging blob organized … ok then you must be part of one of these casual zerging blob guilds. this type of gameplay rewards bad mechanics

in any other PVP game if you were to blob up on one person you would get destroyed and then probably told to learn to play better by your enemy. but because of the mechanics i mentioned the game is dumbed down to running around in a non thinking blob.

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End the casual blobbing Zerg gameplay

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make Crowd control more prominent, get rid of the down state in WvW and get rid of the limit on amount of people an AOE skill can hit.

AOE should destroy mindless Zergs yet in guild wars 2 you are actually rewarded for this dumbed down style of gameplay

stealth - wasn't it planned differently?

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Thieves and mesmers should have a skill to reveal other stealthed thieves and mesmers.

No, it should be Stealthed players can see Stealthed players. That way Thieves become instant counters to Thieves in any 1v1 situation.
However both can still use their Sneak Attack mechanic on each other while in Stealth.

dumbest idea ever, unless of course you plan to move that philosophy over to every class. the only counter for an engineer is another engineer, the only counter for a warrior is another warrior.

I mean why should the only counter for a stealthed thief be another thief.

this has been tried in other games I remember DAOC had something like this where you could only see stealth if you were a stealth class … it failed pretty miserably.

Warrior it is!...or is it?

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I wouldn’t roll a Warrior today. People will say that you are OP as an excuse for literally anything.

truth hurts doesn’kitten warriors are OP there is really no denying it. only people who don’t think warriors are OP are stupid warriors who think their “superior skill” is whats winning them fights

Warriors in PvP, this is just silly.

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just like everything in this game … play a warrior or go play a different game.

after playing other classes and then rolling a warrior, playing the warrior is easy mode im just killing groups of stuff all day and i feel much stronger in WvW even at level 40 than my engineer at 80 in orange/ascended gear.

Juggernaut - Why no elixir gun?

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since we have a 15% damage boost to Flamethrower or Elixir gun trait already? Should the Elixir gun be added to the Juggernaut trait as well?

Class Balance [Killshot OP]

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my advice … play a warrior like everyone else that is only a portion of their health which is easily healed back.

welcome to Warrior wars 2.

Stronger profession.

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You might not be the best of the best in every situation,

lol hell warrior can do what most classes can with tons more HP and defense.

basically in guild wars 2 if you aren’t playing a warrior you are playing the game wrong.

How many Chars will you gear w/ ascended?

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Zero. I’m not going to sacrifice or waste my game time, effort, gold or cash crafting. Until I can earn them as rewards through regular gameplay of my choosing without an unreasonable grind and purchase them off the bltc, this system for gear progression does not interest me.

Best answer ever

completely agree

[Merged] Cultural Human T3 Not Exclusive

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Anet you need to work with people who went out and bought the flamekissed armor on the first day before you pulled it. you NEED to get their input and work with them since you are screwing them over.

my suggestion is send out a poll with a screenshot or render of the new armor look to ONLY those that bought the flamekissed armor to make sure they like the new concept. Anyone who didn’t buy this armor already should have no right or say in the matter as they don’t have the investment in the armor that those that bought it do.

I Like the Original Flamekissed Armor

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here is the best solution

you bought it before they caved to the whiny brats on the forum – you have a choice of either keeping the old look or getting the new look.

once they reintroduce it …. you only get that look.

I Like the Original Flamekissed Armor

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They set the value with the exchange. 119g and 6 fine transmutes is $20. If you like the armor, buy the ht3 like everyone else. Being an advocate of these gem store reskins is supporting a trend that will ruin the game if it continues. In game acquisition of an item will have no value if they release an easy cheap gem version of it to make a quick buck because it is popular. If there is nothing to acquire with game play, people won’t play the game. Maybe you should think about what is best for the game instead of what you like best.

this is how it works in many other games with micro-transactions. you can either buy them with ingame “make believe” money OR buy items with real money.

it will not ruin the game stop being a drama kitten.

[Merged] Cultural Human T3 Not Exclusive

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I rolled a human for many reasons including t3 armor etc, people who are calling people who dislike the human cult armor being sold at the cash shop and calling them “kittenes” are morons. The set costs less than half of actual armor. That’s crap, how would you like it if something you paid hard time or money for, had to pick a certain race to get it and suddenly it’s for everyone?

It’s not fair to anyone who rolled a human for the armor because they cannot race change. So stop calling people who complain selfish, you kittenes are the ones being selfish because it’s all benefits for you.

10 real life dollars > make believe money

Your mistaken thought the armor did not cost 10 real life dollars. The armor cost 800gem’s which technically have no real monetary value since there backed by no governments.

Anet made true on there promise when you gave them 10 dollars they gave you 800 gem’s to spend.

don’t speak on subjects that you have no clue on.

I Like the Original Flamekissed Armor

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  • The Flamekissed armor set costed alot less than 119g, which is the price one has to pay for T3 cultural armor

here is an actual fact

10 real life dollars is worth more than your make believe monies. gems are also made up with a made up value which anet can change at anytime , so even though whole conversion argument doesn’t hold water.

the fact is 119gold is made up money that has no value in real life. 10 dollars is real money it has real value and will always have much much more value than made up money.

so in REALITY flamekissed armor costed a lot more than T3 cultural armor.

[Merged] Cultural Human T3 Not Exclusive

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I rolled a human for many reasons including t3 armor etc, people who are calling people who dislike the human cult armor being sold at the cash shop and calling them “kittenes” are morons. The set costs less than half of actual armor. That’s crap, how would you like it if something you paid hard time or money for, had to pick a certain race to get it and suddenly it’s for everyone?

It’s not fair to anyone who rolled a human for the armor because they cannot race change. So stop calling people who complain selfish, you kittenes are the ones being selfish because it’s all benefits for you.

10 real life dollars > make believe money

I Like the Original Flamekissed Armor

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If you guys like whoring out values and undercutting purpose in name of style and profits, there is a certain avatar site I could direct you to where you’d be right at home…

who paid more a person who paid 10 real life dollars or someone who paid with make believe money?

10$ > Make believe monies

[Merged] Cultural Human T3 Not Exclusive

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gems are not real they have no real life value nor does gold anet can set any price for gems as they see fit

so 10$ > 160 make believe monies.

And they can revoke any armor skin they see fit it seems.

people can also charge back their credit cards as they see fit for fraud.

Might want to read that EULA before you get a lawyer there buddy. You also bought $10 worth of gems, not armor.

oh you would be surprised homey. i’ve seen charge backs for LOT less.

here is an example, true story too people did charge backs on their credit card because they were upset that in one of the recent WWE pay per views where at the end a guy “won” the title and then in a switcheroo he got “stripped” of the belt the next night.

and people got their money back.

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[Merged] Cultural Human T3 Not Exclusive

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gems are not real they have no real life value nor does gold anet can set any price for gems as they see fit

so 10$ > 160 make believe monies.

And they can revoke any armor skin they see fit it seems.

people can also charge back their credit cards as they see fit for fraud.

[Merged] Cultural Human T3 Not Exclusive

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gems are not real they have no real life value nor does gold anet can set any price for gems as they see fit

so 10$ > 160 make believe monies.

Will it happen again?

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talk to your credit card company, do a charge back with the claims of fraud. which is exactly what this is Anet advertised one item then turns around and says they are giving you a different one even though you already paid for it.

I work for a credit card company and have seen charge backs for a lot less.

I Like the Original Flamekissed Armor

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yes this is stupid that because of a few whiny brats this skin will be REMOVED from people who actually bought it because they liked the look. Anet should give people that bought the armor a CHOICE to keep the old skin or the new one that Anet brings into the game.

Dev response - I want Flamekissed armor

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You can get your money back when the update the new Flamekissed skin and you decide not to keep it.

T3 Human Cultural armor should remain exclusive to the Human race. It’s highly insulting to see a Sylvari, a Norn, an Asura or a Charr with a skin that looks 95% as the original Human Cultural Armor. There is nothing else to say about that.

You can get gems. Not the real world money I spent. I don’t want/need gems nor the gold it can be turned into.

Well that’s like most refunds in any stores now. You get a credit. Buy something else.

I don’t want anything else. Everything else on there I wanted I have already bought. And no I don’t want to have wasted my money on black lion keys.. My bank and bag slots are maxed and I don’t want anymore characters. There is NOTHING

Tough luck? Try that arguing at a real store and see if anyone cares. You get your gems back and maybe eventually you will find something you want. If not, there’s is that lovely disinstall button on your computer.

you have no idea how the real world works kid, you probably shouldn’t speak about it till you do.

[Merged] Cultural Human T3 Not Exclusive

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I’m glad they listened to majority of the community and I’m sure they will find a solution for people who put the skin on their existing t3.

yeah the majority of kitten whiny self entitle brats who are complaining about people who payed real life money while they paid make believe money.

this forum is so “kitten -backwards” in every other game with micro-transactions people have no problem with either buying APPEARANCE items with either real money or ingame currency. however here people have a hissy fit.

The original hissyfit should never have happened in the first place, or if it did it should have covered them all since all 3 sets were re-skins. The fact that it only targeted the light because it was cultural was the biggest hypocrisy of them all.

lol anyone can get the heavy and hobo set for cheap and you would be hard pressed to find anyone who even likes them at all.

Complaining that armor that was already universal is now universal is kind of pointless.

So basically you’re saying it’s ok to revamp one kind of skin but not another?

Yes I am.

If you seriously can’t understand the difference between a couple thousand karma or 60badge armor set, a 950Badge+5.44g armor set, and a 120g+crystals(~40g) racial armor set then I really don’t know what kind of discussion we could possibly have.

real life money > make believe money. ask any economist.

Give your ideas for new armor skins.

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my ideas, open up all armor to the cash shop if i want a full suit of Arah token armor for my necro let me pay real money for it.

Dungeon armor, Cultural armor, PVP armor … hell even Karma armor. … 10 bucks each on the store.

[Merged] Cultural Human T3 Not Exclusive

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its not selfish expecting that ganathar, it was anets fault they decided to release the skins they did, BUT, the crusade worked, the skin is gone and they will probably never release another t3 skin. However, people did spend the money, anet should not be taking the skin for the people that did get it within the short time it was up.

this, my wife is actually quite kitten ed because she loves the look of this gear she bought it as soon as soon as she saw it. now that they are talking about taking away she is upset.

maybe those that bought the skin should go on a crusade like the brats did to get this removed to give those that BOUGHT a skin a voice.

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I’m glad they listened to majority of the community and I’m sure they will find a solution for people who put the skin on their existing t3.

yeah the majority of kitten whiny self entitle brats who are complaining about people who payed real life money while they paid make believe money.

this forum is so “kitten -backwards” in every other game with micro-transactions people have no problem with either buying APPEARANCE items with either real money or ingame currency. however here people have a hissy fit.

The original hissyfit should never have happened in the first place, or if it did it should have covered them all since all 3 sets were re-skins. The fact that it only targeted the light because it was cultural was the biggest hypocrisy of them all. Forgive me if I feel that T3 didn’t loose it’s uniqueness at all, especially since it’s still there for all those that want it.

the Hissyfit should never have happened in the first place because there is no reason for a Hissyfit. if someone wants to pay 10 dollars for appearance gear they should be able to, hell i think Anet should open ALL armor looks for 10 bucks a pop (dungeon culteral, PVP). and tell the self-entitled brats on this forum if you don’t want to spend the 10 bucks then buy it with in game currency, like every other MMO with micro-transactions.

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I’m glad they listened to majority of the community and I’m sure they will find a solution for people who put the skin on their existing t3.

yeah the majority of kitten whiny self entitle brats who are complaining about people who payed real life money while they paid make believe money.

this forum is so “kitten -backwards” in every other game with micro-transactions people have no problem with either buying APPEARANCE items with either real money or ingame currency. however here people have a hissy fit.

[Merged] Cultural Human T3 Not Exclusive

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wow you self entitled brats cried enough that people who liked the look are getting screwed. good job you whiny scumbags.

give people a choice Anet if they want to keep they look they can or they can get the “new” redesign flamekissed armor.

T3 should have been a Prereq

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hold on so people are whining because people can pay 10 REAL LIFE dollars for something they bought in game for make believe money?

LOL

Your top 5 design mistakes in GW2?

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1) WvW rewarding mindless zerging and bad habits … aka Stacking. in any other WvW centric game if you stack together in a blob you are quickly dispatched but in this game its the only way to be successful.

2) making Dungeons DPS races only as it stands right now if you take any armor into a dungeon thats not Zerker you are a noob.

3) Ascended gear – didn’t they say that once you got exotic you would be done with gear progression?

4) Rally – great for PVE, not so much for WvW again promotes zerging.

5) Class design – who would have though a class that has high inherent HP/Defense and can put out a ton of damage would be a popular choice … not me /sarcasm.

excited that Anet is looking into a MOBA mode

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The balance of classes in this game is a joke. Just mention the stealth system to any hardcore MOBA or LOL player and they will laugh.

things can be done to relieve that though, have set armors and traits depending on your “role” after all thats what MOBAs are about … Tanks, Ranged Carries, Assassins, Mages and Junglers.

also having 4(or 5) skills (which is usual in MOBAs) would relieve this as well.

Personally if it was up to me, I would use the Minis as the Champions for this MOBA mode(if its implemented), instead of letting players use their own character … but thats just my idea.

excited that Anet is looking into a MOBA mode

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As someone who plays Smite (A 3rd person MOBA) i am really excited by the idea that a MOBA style mode might come to GW2. Now i know im getting a bit ahead of myself since it has been said this is just in the “testing phase”.

but just wanted to make this post to show my support for a MOBA style game mode in GW2.

Are professions still unbalanced?

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Play Warrior … faceroll … win.

in fact i think i will make a warrior and call him that

Fayceroll Wynn

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To expand on my MOBA for Minis idea. have it where you play through the game and at different heart locations you can buy a random mini for laurels or karma (or you could buy packs for real cash)

give each mini 4 different skills and a role (typical MOBA roles)

so for example the Mini Seraph Juggernaut would be a tank his 4 skills would be

1) a wall that cant be passed through by friends or enemies
2) a straight foward attack that does damage and slows
3) a frontal cone stun
4) an AOE aura that he can place in front of him that reduces damage taken to allies.

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i would love to see some sort of competitive MOBA (look at Smite) mode.

maybe it could be tied to the minis we get (and then add new ways to collect minis in game). so instead of using our characters we would use the minis we have unlocked.

GW2 PvP/WvW...

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one thing i would like to see in WvW is more incentive to attack keeps with defenders and more incentives to defend a keep.

I would also like to see them limit the amount of Artillery a keep can have in it. then remove the AOE cap from spells and force people out of the whole “stack on me” mentality.

if you give defense bonus people will defend, putting a cap on artillery will make people want to attack better defended keeps. thus better fights.

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I think the main problem is the base HP of other classes, added to the fact that warrior wear heavy armor.

In terms of DPS, warrior isn’t even on top 3, according to someone who did the math. So that’s not why warrior is so good. It’s just that other classes have to put it some survivability in order to catch up with warrior’s survivability.

Thieves can get higher dps against targets with less than 50% hp, Ele can get higher dps against targets stuck in a wall and if there is only one mob they can get similar dps with lightning hammer.
Bomb engineer could probably out dps warrior too. But Im not 100% sure about that.
So warrior dps is in no way OP. If anything its a little too low.

you must be a bad warrior

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yeah same thing is happening with my wifes game …… and apparently mine too

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why do you "turn off" content

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so i just came back to the game after a few months break and saw someone with a backpack that was really cool looking and would fit my characters look(I’m an Engineer and the backpack was the jetpack)

so I asked what backpack it was and how to get it and the guy told me it was the Jetpack and unfortunately I can’t get it anymore because the dungeon is not in t he game any longer.

I don’t understand why would you turn off non holiday content?!? why would you spend time working on a dungeon only to remove it a few weeks later. just because that part of the story event is over doesn’t mean people either who came back to the game or just started wouldn’t want to play through it.

GW2 PvP/WvW...

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my biggest problem with WvW is there is little to no strategy its whoever brings the biggest Zerg wins there is no way for a smaller group to outplay a larger group.

AND the only viable strat in WvW is Stacking and moving together as a giant clusterf*** of crap through a fight. in every other MMORPG that offers massive WvW type fights, a group doing that would get cursed at and told “stop being noob zerglings and spread out!”

but in GW2 is perfectly viable and infact the dominant tactic.

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i think they need to put diminishing returns on stats or if they have that implemented already then bump it up to the next level.

What purpose would that serve?

get a more variety of builds out there besides “Zerker or GTFO”.

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Just because you cannot or refuse to play a dps character does not mean that others who do enjoy or have the skills required to play said gear should suffer. Shame on you.

oh stop this game is so dumbed down, you are over exaggerating the skill required to play the dps spec.

What If There Was No "DPS"

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i think they need to put diminishing returns on stats or if they have that implemented already then bump it up to the next level.