Guild Wars 2

Thank you Inculpatus.

and what are elites?

might of been 2-3 years ago lol. Whats the go to engi build these days?

Love wvwvw. I play a turret engineer sometimes with flamethrower. Should I just wvw and farm new gear? Do I grab the xpac tommorrow because I needs the new goodies (armor weps abilities)? Haven’t played in a year or so and think that makes me a noob again even though I have 5 80’s.

Playing something else til something is done. I play games for fun and this just isn’t fun. There’s a reason why WvW has had a steady decline. Imo? Add more maps then pair the top server with the bottom server, the 2nd with 2nd to last and so on then go at it. Might actually get some turn out from the lower ranked servers.

nightblood.7910:

Sebrent.3625:

The only thing I’ve ever been able to think up when my mind wonders to this topic is this …

If the player limit for a map drops from say 75 to 50 … and some of the servers still have more than 50 players on the map, the first X players to die can’t respawn on that map. This would be akin to your side no longer having the resources to support that number of reinforcements.

That being said, I could see that being a rage-inducing user experience at times.

Yeah this would deplete guild raids horribly. Make group roaming completely useless and only cater to the zerg mentality. It would destroy any organized attempts and leave everything as pug zerg only.

Now if you said that if they were not resed in a specific time period, that might be a little more doable but still frustrating.

I personally think bandwagoning is the main culprit of most complaints in WvW. Unfortunately its human nature and a very hard thing to stop because people want to be on the winning server.

GO……..ummm who won? Oh ya-GO DUKE! Where is Duke? I am so down with the Duke.

my main is an engi named Outlaw Josie Wales.

http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fdAQFAUlUUp6qtbxWLseNydBFybGQQPhAkVRewWA-TFiFAB/pEMJlM0pDYJlTAcBAE4BAco6Prs/QAAEgdOxAwQH6QH6QHaTciTciTciFCo8WA-w

its a rifle build tho but flamethrower and rifle are the power build.

it comes from the same place as the 100 arrows per arrow cart that get loaded every 2 seconds.

Dano.5298:

The only reason I ever picked the game up was because of WvW.

same with me and my friends. if all you want to do is pve there are better games for that.

HERE HERE! Where do I sign?

Football field sized areas of arrow cart red circles.

Put a cap on arrow carts at maybe 100 PER FRIGGIN MAP? Yah, sarcastic I know but it’s borderline stupid how many ac’s there are and with the patch it’s just worse.

Kodiak.3281:

Bigger blobs and more boring fights.

Only ones cheering this on are the classes who had no place in the old meta.

You mean HALF of us?

Kodiak.3281:

Wish the wolves down in the lower tiers wouldn’t talk while the sheep are talking.

NiloyBardhan.9170:

ACs are perfectly fine. What do you think an outnumbered server should use when defending a keep/tower against 3-4 times people than their own? Siege weapons are supposed to be used to one’s advantage and its not like there aren’t any counters. Eles’ AoEs can down an AC, a well placed ballista OS a good counter, etc

lol

give them realistic reload times at least. I mean really, who loads a hundred arrows in a matter of seconds? I mean I get why, they want to stop the tower trading flipping play style but this makes it kitten near impossible. It rewards servers with more players even more. Better rewards for defending would have been a better option imo.

pokes the bees nest again while giggling maniacally

GOOD TIMES!

Joey.2769:

What T5 server are you talking about CD or IoJ both got their WvW population destroyed by being in T3.

Be that as it may there’s still a whole Texas kitten load more of them than there are of us. They outnumber us AND have better coverage yet we still remain competitive. I am kitten proud of SoR.

Solo.2416:

aha you reap what you sow. none of us will ever go back, not with all that useless drama you made us go through. rott in tier 8 forever you guys deserve every bit of it especially the crap pve guilds bye and good riddance

Us “crap pver’s” are holding our own in tier 6 and giving a tier 5 server a run for their money.

Amazing fight so far this week on tier 6. If only they all could be this good.

My bad-we’re tier 6 it’s a tier 5 match up. Anyways…

Rangers are in a good place right now.

First let me share this-when I came back to GW2 a couple of months ago I purposely chose the last place server-SoR. I’m not a bandwagon jumper and like to be part of the process. Brought a few friends with me, joined a guild and started to get to know the community. It was and still is a great server to WvW on. Little to no drama and the guilds work together like one big guild. I can go in and just attach to any commander and everything’s kopesetic. We have steadily risen in the standings and we are on the verge of rising another tier. To those that like to roam-it’s great here. To those that like the zerg there’s plenty of that as well. We will continue to rise and improve and with that in mind I extend an invitation for anyone interested to come and join us. SoR is the true Lazerus rising from the dead server and it has been a great 3 month’s of pvp for me and I foresee another considerable amount of time ahead of us of great community and great pvp.

Exeon.4358:

Turk.5460:

According to #22 on the Rules of Conduct, it doesn’t allow skyhammer rank farm servers.

“Match manipulation is defined as any action taken to fix or manipulate the outcome of a match or alter or manipulate the rankings or ratings of the ladder.” – notice the or that is repeated over and over, which tells you that this does not pertain only to rated/ranked/ladder play, but any PvP gameplay.

They must not have the manpower to enforce it, unfortunately.

Despite this, there are dedicated rank farm servers that nobody cares about.

However you fail to understand that this shouldn’t logically apply to OS.
You can only manipulate “a Match” in either sPvP or world vs world(if you have guilds working together to that end to manipulate the score at the end of the week)

In OS, there is no match against people, there is no score at the end of the week, there is no manipulation of a match, as there is no match, it’s a free for all killfest and when it’s empty ocasionally guilds set up guild fights, during which it’s still considered a killfest, as nothing prevents me from going on my necro in lich form and trolling’s people’s fights

Rank and 5 bucks will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks. That’s about all your rank is worth. As for matts? What serious pvp’er even cares about this? They can bring their “rank” to real pvp and die like every other nub.

Gotejjeken.1267:

Berserker dual bear with LB and GS in WvW is the best build ever!

I am a full glass cannon zerker LB/GS Ranger and I support this post.

X T D.6458:

Krustydog.3072:

X T D.6458:

Krustydog.3072:

Unwritten rules-no ressing up levels unless fight is over and if you do play wvw as an up level ALWAYS stay with the zerg. I’ve leveled plenty of tunes in wvw you just have to figure out how to be an asset with out all you gear/skills. That being said it’s definitely easier if you are a ranged class. Front lines are no place for you. You will be given grief on the leet servers but not so much tier 6 and down. Come to SoR, you’re more than welcome here.

I would hardly call it elite behavior, its practical understanding of the games mechanics. If your facing a large enemy force and there are soft targets in your group that can rally many downed enemies potentially turning the tide of the fight costing you time and possibly the objective your fighting over, how is that elite behavior? You dont go into a fight trying to lose, and until anet changes the rally mechanics low leveled players will continue to be a liability, unfortunate yes, but its just the way it is.

didn’t call it leet behavior called it leet servers. understandable when there are q’s to get it.

what exactly do you mean by elite server, what is that supposed to mean?

the top dogs.

X T D.6458:

Krustydog.3072:

Unwritten rules-no ressing up levels unless fight is over and if you do play wvw as an up level ALWAYS stay with the zerg. I’ve leveled plenty of tunes in wvw you just have to figure out how to be an asset with out all you gear/skills. That being said it’s definitely easier if you are a ranged class. Front lines are no place for you. You will be given grief on the leet servers but not so much tier 6 and down. Come to SoR, you’re more than welcome here.

I would hardly call it elite behavior, its practical understanding of the games mechanics. If your facing a large enemy force and there are soft targets in your group that can rally many downed enemies potentially turning the tide of the fight costing you time and possibly the objective your fighting over, how is that elite behavior? You dont go into a fight trying to lose, and until anet changes the rally mechanics low leveled players will continue to be a liability, unfortunate yes, but its just the way it is.

didn’t call it leet behavior called it leet servers. understandable when there are q’s to get it.

Unwritten rules-no ressing up levels unless fight is over and if you do play wvw as an up level ALWAYS stay with the zerg. I’ve leveled plenty of tunes in wvw you just have to figure out how to be an asset with out all you gear/skills. That being said it’s definitely easier if you are a ranged class. Front lines are no place for you. You will be given grief on the leet servers but not so much tier 6 and down. Come to SoR, you’re more than welcome here.

just saw a road sign in WvW-“Caution, Beat Down in Progress.”

oscuro.9720:

Alright, post number 2 for me.
We are working on our politics and inter-guild relations. In terms of the team speak spy thing, it is possible because when we fought in a few match ups there were known cross server players spying on us, sorry for the suspicion of it was or wasn’t me/my guild. I know for a fact that both Kaineng and CD build open field siege. It depends who you fight. Their Zergs don’t tend to, unless they are outmanned, in which case it is common sense. If you are outmanned, and AC or two ballista a can make a huge difference. I don’t condemn people for building siege when outmanned. My guild will build siege in camps when running 2-5 people and we have a group of 7-10 running around hunting us. They may rage at us, but they are the ones hunting a smaller group, so live with it.
I have seen CD golem rush us twice with about 30-35 people on Saturday. Happened, was fun, don’t say it didn’t because you weren’t there.
The skilled CD are tkva and other roaning groups. Some of the CD Zergs are lower skill level, but their small group roamingis top notch.
Stop flaming at each other. Both severs do what the other says. Just because u don’t experience it/your guild doesn’t do it, it doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen. Let’s try to keep it copacetic and all get along, I like this matchup

Copacetic. That’s a good word. We should bring it back.

Telly.4962:

Prysin.8542:

It eats mesmers for breakfast
and necromancers for lunch

No seriously though, mesmer is a utility bot, even for roaming it is not that great and it will lose to every thief there is due to thief having massive advantages over mesmers in the first place from how the professions were designed.

Please don’t bring your Ranger to a Roaming Server, T6-T8, because I hate watching people rage quit. Those utility bot Mesmers almost always beats a Ranger, as well as Thieves, where I play.

Talked my thief friend into going Ranger and he hasn’t looked back. We roam T7 (soon to be T6) and do just fine. Every class is good in the right hands and vice versa-every class sucks in the wrong hands. Rangers are deadly in the right hands.

lol after over a decade of gaming I have NEVER seen a game stop the speed hackers. Just last week a whole guild was camping our keep blinking all over the place. I just go somewhere else. Don’t feed the trolls and they eventually move on.

SoR beckons you. Can you hear it?

joneirikb.7506:

Nope, we’re going ot stay in T6 for a while longer, even if we had the slightest chance of beating GoM/AR solidly enough to do so, which we won’t. We where over 200 glicko rating under GoM going into this week, so the glicko needs time to change out before anyone else can get thrown into higher tiers.

We’re having a VERY enjoyable match with AR/GoMmi Bears this week, it is as close as we have ever been in a match-up with our weird coverage. We got a good lead from a strong night cap on monday, and been living on that for the rest of the week.

Next week, GoM is going to learn from this week. And AR will get slightly over the new high of fighting GoM who comes out and fights them (they are in love), and they will both beat up a bit on Kaineng first, and then continue to play with each others, and we won’t have the same advantage in points again.

It will get even closer, and even more fun!

I hope we keep this match-up for a month!

PS: Come back here and protect your motherland you little Ronin!

Better watch out cause SoR is coming. You remember us-the guys (and dolls) who whooped your kitten last week.

Life isn’t fair. Neither is WvW. Adapt. Personally I am happy with the game because I MOVED! Found a server that suits me. My friends moved with me. If your stuck on a server and it’s making you rage then MOVE! I am more proud of the people I fight with than I am the name of my server. People are real.

Battle lines. I like it. Jumping puzzles not so much.

Well, if you want to be be another brick in the wall SoS is definitely the choice. If however you want to make a huge difference- SoR. We pretty much dominate our time zone but need coverage. Even without coverage we have moved up 5-6 spots in 2 months. We are the phoenix rising server. There is zero drama here and your guild would have a huge impact. Where ever you go good luck to you. I played UO on the Oceanic server back in the days and think you guys are great.

I just came back 2 months ago and already have 2 fully geared 80’s (1 in exotics and the other in full celestial) and working on a third and I am not all that hardcore though I do take my gaming serious. If your looking for easier than this good luck. If you hate dying fast research bunker builds here>http://metabattle.com/wiki/MetaBattle_Wiki
There are some builds that are seriously hard to kill.

How many servers does it take to change a light bulb? 3, 1 to change it and 2 to say “if it wasn’t night we could do that way better than you.”

Did someone say collision detection? Now we’re talking.

Tanks. I like tanks. But I guess we already have siege golems. How about we can put players in catapults and sling them? Now that would be fun. If you hit anything vertical-SPLAT!

Make it so the ONLY way to get in is if WvW is full. Or not. Or put a hard limit on it and then the only way to go over the limit is if WvW is full. Some players only WvW can the same be said of EoTM? I can’t imagine why a fully geared 80 would religiously play EoTM.

Bertrand.3057:

azyume.6321:

The problem isn’t the points, the problem is the lack of coverage. OP is trying to use a bandage to fix something that isn’t entirely broken while ignoring the real problem. Why all 23 servers, well more if counts the EU as well, should suffer just because your sever have a recruitment problem and doesn’t have a early night/EU/OCx crew?

While talking about this, can you please come to a good point as why the tier 1 and 2 servers will have their efforts diminished when they have plenty of players around to fight, take and defend during those times you judged to be “nightcapping”?

It’s not a server recruitment problem. Recruiting players to fill that time slot for your server is the bandage that fails to address the underlying causes.

No recruitment of night crew will solve the issue, because all that does is shift the burden from one server to another. The population playing during certain time slots is simply much, much smaller, this has to be taken into consideration in the design of the game.

That’s pretty much it and this smaller percentage of players has a greater impact than the majority. That’s pretty much all I was saying and I get flamed.

Rimmy.9217:

Lazaar.9123:

Krustydog.3072:

Lazaar.9123:

Jayden Ennok.3687:

lordkrall.7241:

But why should person X be less valuable for the server than person Y just because person X is not able to play during a supposed prime-time?

Then we also have the people whose prime-time fits neither NA nor EU prime-time.

Not to mention people that work other than typical 9-5 jobs, which might only be able to play during the day or during late night/early morning.

A player is actually more valuable to his server during off hours, takes less people to do the job of many during prime. If enemy servers don’t have those 5 nighcappers that can counter our group of five, then our five players can be responsible for 600+ tick.

Why should nighcappers’ time be more valuable than time of players during prime hours?

And why should they be less valuable? Not to mention your example seems extremely exaggerated.

a kicker kicks field goals and only gets 3 points where a running back or receiver is rewarded 6 for his effort. Is a kicker less valuable? Many games are decided by kickers. Ironic that he gets half the points yet kickers are the leading scorers in the NFL.

And how is that relevant to time zones in even the slightest? Your day time is another persons night time, and their day time is your night time. The same argument can be directed to both sides, so why should either side be treated any differently? (Also a sport, especially one that isn’t even dominant outside of America, really isn’t a good comparison)

You think so? I think his choice of example totally highlights his personal bias ever more clearly.

Plus, he has it backwards: a kicker doesn’t get half – a receiver gets double. Scores get calculated from the minimum (one) and then ascending, not the other way around.

OP just can’t come to grips emotionally with a persistent world.

Man it’s like you know me-NOT.

Lazaar.9123:

Jayden Ennok.3687:

lordkrall.7241:

But why should person X be less valuable for the server than person Y just because person X is not able to play during a supposed prime-time?

Then we also have the people whose prime-time fits neither NA nor EU prime-time.

Not to mention people that work other than typical 9-5 jobs, which might only be able to play during the day or during late night/early morning.

A player is actually more valuable to his server during off hours, takes less people to do the job of many during prime. If enemy servers don’t have those 5 nighcappers that can counter our group of five, then our five players can be responsible for 600+ tick.

Why should nighcappers’ time be more valuable than time of players during prime hours?

And why should they be less valuable? Not to mention your example seems extremely exaggerated.

a kicker kicks field goals and only gets 3 points where a running back or receiver is rewarded 6 for his effort. Is a kicker less valuable? Many games are decided by kickers. Ironic that he gets half the points yet kickers are the leading scorers in the NFL.

Azrael.4960:

Krustydog.3072:

Alrighty then-I guess the consensus is everything’s fine. Growing number of players in WvW proves it. My bad.

The point is that your prime time is not prime time for others and the question raised was “Why should server prime time be based on when you are on and not when other players are on?”

So your enemy server has a lot of OCX players online during their prime time. They could turn around and make the same argument that you are night capping while they’re sleeping, so shouldn’t your points be worth half as much?

If you can’t see the logic in that argument, then the only way to paint your suggestion is selfish

ummm…NA server? Are you unsure what NA stands for? And for the record I haven’t called anyone selfish, snotty, greedy or a cry baby or said their ideas are stupid.

Alrighty then-I guess the consensus is everything’s fine. Growing number of players in WvW proves it. My bad.

Rimmy.9217:

If there are more people on at a given time, then their individual efforts matter less.

That said, this is a global game AND not everybody works or goes to school on a nine to five schedule. When I feel like playing in the morning (west coast NA, PST time zone) why should I be penalized for it? Same for people who work afternoons and get home at midnight and feel like playing for a couple of hours before sleeping.

Or stay at home parents who get in some game time while the kids have a nap or are at school.

Or when I move overseas, want to keep playing my game, but my daylight hours are different to NA?

This, as always, is a dumb idea. If you have dead times on your server, it’s ridiculous to penalize OTHER people for it.

How exactly would it be that you are being penalized? Given equality during prime time you would still have the advantage. I said in original post same rewards just less points. How do those points hurt you personally in regards to rewards? The poster who said night crews are more valuable is totally correct. It makes YOU-the night person-more valuable so I think the pots calling the kettle black. Your night capping everything with little to no resistance makes MY efforts mean less, I’m just looking to make matches better. I have to actually fight other people to get my server points.

A.M. rewards half the points as P.M.? Same rewards. That way the server with better night coverage doesn’t auto win? It’s disheartening to be leading when you go to bed only to wake up and find another server has fully capped every map to take an almost insurmountable lead.

oscuro.9720:

Kaineng Right now we are the “strong” server in our matchup, but we don’t have majority numbers by any means. We will usually have one main group of ~10-15, and a bunch of small groups. We don’t care who is who, we show up, kill people, and cap their stuff. Granted, you have to like fighting outmanned and be willing to die doing crazy things (attempting 5v20s)

Opening day/night we whooped your kitten . You have night coverage we do not. THATS what makes you the “strong” server. Am I jelly? Maybe a little.