Guild Wars 2

Disagree here, its a pet class the only problem is that the pets are unreliable in terms of timing. Can’t tell you how many times my pet has canceled his f2 skill because I had to dodge roll two feet away, then it’s on CD and I’m SOL.

Like everyone else has said: works great if your opponent has no idea whats happening. If you can see the skull crack coming then you have a real hard time setting up dmg. If they run a few stun breakers it will be hard to set up spike dmg. Theres plenty of builds on plenty of classes that will annihilate players who don’t know what theyre doing.

Is it fair to the bad player? Nope, but try that against someone who knows its coming and see how it turns out.

I love the weapon for solo roaming/5man in wvw. I pair it with shield/GS. Simply put its a finisher. Once you get the hang of it you will be ending fights with one move. Paired with bulls charge you can really dish out some nice crits. I have plenty of mobility with GS, so it’s nice to have instant damage like that without waiting for 100b.

In our five man I usually am pressuring someone other than the called target. Squishy players who arent being focused never see the combo coming. It can swing entire fights when someone on the other team gets bursted down almost immediately. Charge into evisc then shield bash 100 blades. A lot of the time even if they stun break you can get the evis off before the dodge roll. Also if you are good at recognizing when someone is out of dodges you don’t even need to set it up.

I can understand why people do not prefer this set up but I use it often with success. Axe/shield is a great combo of huge instant damage/blocks/stuns. It does take some time to learn how to stay live when focused though. I use knights armor/zerk everything else, its a little glassy but its so nice to have instant raw dmg like that in the current condi meta. I feel like a lot of opponents dont know what to do against a set up like that, everyone is geared to fight more bunkery/condi heavy people.

Misunderstood I thought you meant if I WAS by the windmill I should expect that.

I don’t care about being jumped, it’s going to happen. When you step out from your guild group to 1v1, then run back to your friends when you lose is just weak. All I do is roam/small man so trust me I am used to getting run over by numbers. Doesn’t mean I won’t call out when someone who knows what there actually doing pulls that.

Now get back to your regularly scheduled arrow cart.

It was in between BP garrison and Hills, not sure what you’re talking about.

Don’t you need to update your wvw kills or something?

Shout out to DPS, amazing guild.

War starts a 1v1 with me, gets beat down and all your buddies immediately jump in. Not complaining about being jumped, that happens when you roam, just don’t start duels if you’re just going to run for help when it goes bad. Nice touching laughing afterward too.

Whisper me in game if you ever think you can build up enough courage, always welcome to 5v5 GvG as well.

If Anet bans a single person for this it will just show how completely inept they are. You’re going to ban people who didn’t do anything other than use a trait?

Is it our fault that the bug existed?

Is it our fault you took so long to fix it?

All these people did is use a very simple trait that YOU gave them. It’s not like anyone was using some insane glitch to pull this off, all anyone did is trait for fall damage. Don’t start banning people because youre awful at updating your own game.

The state of ranger is pathetic.

I mained a ranger for 6 months, yet I still assume that the ranger in an enemy group is the worst/most ineffective player 90% of the time. Thats because only new/bad players still bother with it in wvw. Whenever I am roaming its the class I am least afraid of. They have nothing to scare me with anymore. You cant burst anything, you aren’t very supportive of team mates, you don’t provde substantial sustained DPS…quite frankly theyare the last thing we worry about in small man wvw.

They are fine in solo pve, you can kite forever. Not worth bringing in dungeons over other classes that can vastly out DPS and out support you. Pets are so unreliable in every facet, yet we rely so much on them.

Dont worry tho guys…they fixed a tool tip!!!

Haven’t touched my ranger in months and it looks like it will stay that way. No one cares about your tiny pet buffs when its still insanely unreliable to even activate on time in a good fight.

Awesome my fern hound regens for more now…oh wait I dodge rolled five feet away so he cancelled the action and now its on CD.

No weapon changes makes this patch completely underwhelming for ranger. There is zero reason to bring him over any other class for our 5man. Ranger provides literally nothing that other classes cant do better in small man wvw. Small and frankly stupid buffs to pet F2s…is that really your plan to bring them up to par??

Sic em is for jokes, its not a game changer by any means. Cool to have in certain situations but like most ranger aspects is only useful in that one specific situation.

Bottom line is this class is flat out boring compared to everything else in the game. Half our dmg comes from a pet that can’t reliably auto attack a moving enemy much less provide real substantial dps. Everything that we ever did better than other classes has been nerfed into oblivion. Outside of sPvP i do not see a single reason to ever play this class again.

Looks like you win Anet, I’ll be on my warrior.

I’m certain there was the stack symbol on at least one of your team mates, either way I don’t honestly care its WvW not spvp we aren’t going to stack all over agian just because someone keeps pestering us for a gvg. We offered to fight over again multiple times and if you want a completely fair environment we also offered to take it to spvp, instead your engi and mes just kept joining group to talk kitten and keep attacking us.

Hard for me to care about the no hard feelings bit when your guys run to the forums trying to make us look bad.

We don’t care at all, your guys seem pretty upset though.

Jscull.2514:

Sorry Charlie. It’s open world pvp. That means focus on fighting players not wooden doors. “We want to feel epic like general Patton”

Give it a rest. Try fighting players without a 15+ beside you. Your adrenaline should go up as a human being more than taking some wooden door down…

but but but my arrow cart isn’t protected by walls and npcs in the ruins!!

I hate the buff but we saw way more good fights than usual last night so its a good start

Ekan.1927:

Today I had the pleasure of meeting with the BP guild [sYn] and asking for a 4v4. We allowed them to fight us with 25 stacks of Corruption and Bloodlust(and three orb bloodlust +150 to all stats) for kittens a giggles, whilst we had 0. Downed 2 and they won the group. Though after asking for them to wipe their stacks they refused and tried to wipe us yet again on sight… I’m not saying the whole guild is bad but just some individuals have a interesting mentality. Either way, thanks for the fights from all the other guilds and keep it up everyone.

You came to us for a gvg, we didn’t exactly want to but you pressed so we agreed. Before the fight you said you didn’t care about stacks, don’t change your tune on the forums just because you lost. Deal with it. Some of your own guys had stacks on during the fight so I’m not sure what you’re whining about.

The second time you guys came up and wouldn’t stop attacking us, so the obvious thing to do was fight you back which ended pretty quickly.

TLDR: You agreed to all the parameters of the fight(nice 2engi/necro/guard group comp lol) before hand and lost so now you feel the need to complain and talk nonsense on the forums to save face.

Love the JI to be ground targeted idea.

We could use better mobility either in swiftness access outside of staff or more movement abilities

Rework meditations and consecrations. Outside of Judges I don’t even touch these most of the time.

I would love a bow or warhorn, really any new ranged skills would be great. I’m not talking rifle warrior damage, just something to keep ranged classes in combat.

Just don’t nerf us please or buff warriors even further. Slowly but surely we are becoming less effective compared to other classes and wvw specifically less build diverse.

Staff is a fantastic option for WvW. Our 5 man occasionally rolls double staff guards. We both pop empower when the fight starts, have fun fighting a group of 5 with 25 stacks of might.

Line of warding is obviously a disgustingly effective tool for WvW. Helps us disengage from larger numbers, I also place it right behind their front line to cut off their numbers/block rezzers when getting the stomp.

Orb isn’t amazing but its a nice touch.

Symbol is incredibly frustrating though. As someone said pve mobs routinely walk into them putting you into combat.

PVE its just an OK option IMO, wvw and pvp its very useful.

With a 5 man AoE cap I fail to see how it’s a zerg counter. Anyone running in a small man knows AOE is great and all but half the people in the AOE range aren’t even getting touched. Retal hits everyone who hits you, obviously retal also helps the zerg because everything in this game helps the zerg.

The difference is the zerg ball has a lot of players who don’t pay attention and thus get punished for it where our 5 man notices the giant symbols flying all over the place and adjusts to it.

Again I am 100% for anything that punishes button spammers. It will occasionally bite me in the kitten as well, but I will take it because more often than not it’s working in our favor.

Most of the complaining I see here is in the form of zerging. Anything the zerg ball hates and encourages them so split up/play smarter I am all for.

I run guard in our 5 man and see no problem with retal. Against larger numbers it’s a great way to tick down the larger groups health while still focus firing single targets. Occasionally yeah we get screwed when a huge group has it stacked, usually it’s our own fault for not disengaging and trying a new approach.

For those engi’s complaining I have to giggle. You’re upset because there’s a counter to you sitting in the back lineand dropping LOL damage with zero risk…you poor things! Our engi does just fine staying alive so it seems its a l2p issue.

If you nerf retal even more just delete guard entirely. With our lack of mobility and ranged dmg options we already are at a significant disadvantage in a lot of situations, nerfing retal even more would be overkill.

TLDR: Please don’t make the game any easier for the carebear crowd.

Ugh…so much talk of honor and being a “gentleman” in a videogame makes me cringe. Head to your local festival dressed as a knight if you want to play pretend and make friends.

It’s a PvP setting, expect to be killed. Whining about it just makes me want to gather up the group and crakitten every week. If that upsets you feel free to get a group of your own and take a shot.

Goblin Beet Farmer.3045:

I really like KOM advanced tactics of rounding up mobs before initiating a fight to either rally off of them when they go down or to cause whoever they are fighting to get agro from the mobs.

This is probably the best post ever made about us. Pretty much sums it all up.

Thanks for coming out to play last night in your BL FC.

A word of advice: stop trying to build siege in the open field against us. All your doing is turning your backs to us and making yourselves an easy target.

Can’t speak for anyone else in KoM but…dear god yes at the GvG invite.

Pretty please!

FYI fraps will be running so there’s no forum back peddling when things go south for you.

Depends on what you’re doing for builds/pet options/equipment.

I run ranger in our small man, it’s a nasty class if you understand the class mechanics. Send me a OM and I’ll help as much as I can, I’d rather not give out all of my trickseses to the entire forum.

If you plan on pulling the traditional back peddling “omgwhatamidoing” longbow ranger thenn please roll a different class so we can stop being hated on.

Ungood, you’re at it again. You implied needing money in GW2 was entirely PvE related, which is obviously incorrect for WvW.

My face is starting to hurt from how bad I cringe at your posts.

Probably not, but maybe you should get some thicker skin.

It’s a videogame and I’m like 90% sure he can’t actually give you cancer. I mean he’s pretty crafty, but no one on teamspeak has gotten cancer yet so I think you’re safe.

If you want to ever try a new build you’ll need armor/weapons/sigils/etc which cost what? That’s right…money! How is this escaping you? It’s like you purposely misinterpret things so you can start a new random discussion.

I’m not sure if you’re just this dense or messing with me, but you can easily avoid combat in sPvP and get to a cap point. Do you think everyone spawns right next to each other?

Pretty sure the devs mentioned both large and small scale combat when they first introduced WvW. You’re confused. This forum is in the PVP section, isn’t it?

IMO the ones running around attacking doors and flipping camps/towers defended by no one in a race to get the higher imaginary number are the headless chickens.

And your comments about sPvP are incorrect. While you may get points for killing players, the team who holds the most points for the longest still wins 99% of the time. It’s still more pvpoint than pvp. PvP also has different class balancing, and virtually no reward for playing it while WvW you can at least make some money.

I don’t understand why you’re complaining about PAXA ganking soloers in a PVP setting. Us in KoM do it as well. I don’t see the problem as we’re routinely fighting against the same odds.

Why? Its PVP. I must be playing a different game than you because we’re not seeing any of you guys hesitating to zerg us down with your massive blob.

We’ll stop taking advantage of numbers when you do.

It takes 5 to escort a dolyak? And how do you get jumped by 5 people if you’re supposed to be on the lookout?

Sig
KoM

You even said it yourself…we take out camps and vets to lure groups in to fight us. You’re not sitting on a mortar to bring in enemies to fight, you’re using the mortar in place of actually righting.

For the ones commanding I’m sure sieging is a lot of fun and very demanding in terms of tactics. If you aren’t commanding you’re probably just following Lord and Most High Blue Dorito.

In the zerg you make a mistake and still have a horde of friends to rez you. In a 5 man fighting out numbered all day means a mistake can wipe your entire group.

Zerg all day, have fun with it. Just don’t try to convince me its on par skill wise with running in a small man.

I’m not PAXA anymore Moobs, but whisper me anytime you want to back up that 1v1 talk. Bring whatever class or build you prefer.

Signa
HoD

I’m guildless on HoD, transferred a month or so ago and recently parted ways with PAXA because at the time I couldn’t get on a whole lot. Ran with KoM after PAXA logged yesterday, good people it was a lot of fun.

In need of a permanent home now, I don’t get on everyday but my schedule does allow for me to get on a lot more now. Someone take me in plzzzz

Signa Blackthorn – Ranger
HoD

I don’t see the big deal, tbh.

Don’t stand in red circles?

Melee Ranger

Its a blast trying to solo groups, and with a few tweaks to my build it becomes great for group work.

I love my Guard as well but IMO nothing beats flying all over the place on my ranger.

If you like, play it.

I personally loved playing a class others call weak, it makes victories that much sweeter when you know the other guy assumed you were an easy kill.

Can’t tell you how many times people invite me and say they’ve never seen ranger played that way. That’s because tbh most rangers in wvw are downright awful.

Best solo class in the game imo for PvE

Great solo/duo roamer in WvW

Nasty in sPvP

Ehhh at everything else

I was just about to suggest canines.

I never run without them, the KDs are just too valuable. Chain your pet knockdowns, wolfs fear, and GS5 you should have enough time to down just about anyone other than bunker ele/guard.

I run the torch instead of dagger, mainly because if you time all of that right you can basically stun lock him inside of the firefield.

Obviously this isn’t a perfect solution, but I’ve been doing fine with it.

I run in a 5 man, as much as I love my ranger he doesn’t come close to providing as much as my upleveled guard does.

We are usually up against much larger forces, so it can be difficult as a 5man group to stand inside of the healing spring when you are fighting upwards of 15 players at a time(obv not always the case). In order to survive we have to kite and/or push when the time comes so sometimes healing spring just isn’t an option. As amazing of a water field that it is, in some situations you just aren’t going to get the total benefit.

Really the only truely unique things we bring to the group is AOE root and the spring. It’s just more beneficial to the group for me to bring the Guard.

My guards heal on dodge and condition removal shouts alone make him a better option for our group.

Again this is for organized 5 man group play, I don’t zerg often enough to comment.

Ranger is my solo roamer, but as soon as our group gets more than 3 people I switch to guard.

Lucky asura, I wish I had PI.

I’m the same as you with the bombing. We tend to call target in the center mass of a group, I’ll swoop in and hit Entangle…watch as the bodies drop.

But on the flip side like you said it can also completely whiff in certain situations.

Its absolutely hilarious in sieges, half the time you can tell people don’t understand why they can’t move.

Yeah usually when a guard pops his bubble when downed its Hide in Plain Sight that keeps me upright. I’ve been running martial mastery just because it puts my sword evades and CCs on a crazy low cooldown.

I don’t usually ever take the entangle cooldown reduction, mainly because its still on a crazy long cool down.

I have a love/hate relationship with Entangle btw. In small group play it can just end the fight if you time everyones AoEs right.

I’ve been running RAO when solo for the stability and swiftness. Instead of a thief just walking out of it he’s dealing with steroid ranger.

I run a similar build, 0/0/30/10/30

GS/Sword+torch with fern and wolf

Shared Anguish, EB are must haves. I switch out Hide trait with martial mastery depending on the situation. Usually use hide in plain sight for group play, that second stun ignore makes me a lethal finisher(lol what guardian bubble?)

Also use regen duration increase trait, with dwayna runes my regen uptime is even further increased. Regen auto procs when I get to 75% HP, then I pop Troll as sort of a buff(short CD so use it early, your dodges will keep you alive until its back)

BM tree I aim to max my pet heals and shorten cooldowns on the f2.

Yes, I know a Ranger without a ranged weapon sounds funny. This is an in your face build, takes some good sword work to keep close with your enemy. Honestly the build works just fine with SB, I’ve just been insanely outnumbered lately so I’ve been using GS as well for the block/KD and escape.

This build will not hit big numbers, it will however apply very good sustained damage. You can easily chain knock downs with the canines, along with the stun and block knock down on GS you can keep an enemy locked down for awhile.

Really this build for me has been my favorite for fighting outnumbered. Had a few guys tell me recently that I’m just unkillable 1v1.

I passive regen my HP for about 400 a tick with no skills being used at all, and substantially more when I get into combat. Most players just panic when they realize my HP is always full.

Warriors are easy mode, dodge the burst and break them down.

Thieves also aren’t a problem, stealth plays right into my game. Everytime you pop stealth my HP is just flying back to full. Eventually you will learn to time your wolfs fear to prevent back stabs.

DD Ele is usually a stalemate vs a bunker, any other build its just win by attrition.

Mesmers are tricky and require good pet management. In order for EB to work the pet needs to be alive and close to you, so to get rid of confusion be cautious with your pet. Once you learn to dodge the scepter confusion bomb,its game over. Just follow the pet.

Everytime I see a thread about Rangers it reminds me of just how small the amount of people that actually understand the class is.

If you want some tips on a sick roaming build, PM me. I’m not going to bother trying to educate the masses anymore, its pointless.

With the right traits and slot skills Rangers can be a nightmare 1v1. Don’t listen to people who try to say we can’t beat x class, its ignorant gibberish. I beat mesmers and thieves in duels every single day, mesmers can be tricky if you aren’t used to fighting them one on one. Thieves on the other hand are not very difficult to put down with my build.

Civil is boring.

Can we go back to dramatic text walls plz? Forum drama fuels my work day and I haven’t seen a single Mila Kunis reference yet today, shape up t7.

Oh look another tool who doesn’t actually know anything about the class telling those that do how to play. You’re obviously painfully ignorant of the class, like most people who play the game. You have to be braindead to think x class should beat y class everytime.

Honestly how stupid and arrogant do you have to be to claim all ranger roamers are just pvers after completion?

Elitest tool is elitest tool. Come to my server and we’ll see who the gimmicky player is. GL trying to keep me at a distance though, if you think you’re just going to run in circles you have another thing coming.

Go glass, confusion, tanky condition, I don’t care. I’ve duoed with my room mate who is a mesmer for months, its stupid easy to pick out the real one when you know all their tricks.

What are you going to do when I’m not phased by clones? How about when you can’t keep me at a distance with all of my closers, stuns, cripples, and fears? How about when I wipe your conditions constantly?

Like most have said: its a operator error type of issue.

Ranger can be the most underpowered and boring class ever when played wrong. Ranger can also be straight up dominant 1v1 when played right.

Aten my first thought was to get angry and challenge you to a duel…but you’re sadly right. Most Rangers want to pew pew from range all day, and I’ve only met one or two who gave me trouble one on one.

A well played ranger can be down right nasty 1v1, but most of us tend to not understand the class and complain on the forums about bows rather than try something different.

I think of the Ranger as a slippery close to medium ranged skirmisher, where most seem to think of a traditional archer class.

I have run 0/0/30/10/30 for awhile now. Full melee GS with sword n torch. Apothecary w/ dwayna runes. Corruption sigil and energy sigil, thid can be w/e. I use the fern for regen and wolf for fear, both have the insanely useful knockdowns.

Tips:

Torchs 5 most people will dodge out of after a second. Always use your sword 2 skill after you lay this down because the leap will give you fire aura. For very skilled players sometimes I do the 2 skill on sword, then use campfire on myself befoe I leap back at them. This means no matter where they run to you will get fire aura.

I usually open the fight with sword 3 because it gives me an instant advantage putting me right behind them. Campfire right after that then 2 on sword.

Stack healing power with regen signet…watch players run away when they realize your health just won’t go down.

Atherakhia.4086:

The problem with ranger is how boring they are. While I’m overstating it a little, they really don’t do much but run around in circles auto attacking. They do have very strong escapes though so I don’t know what others are complaining about. Swoop alone is amazing, but ranged snares, traps, and knockback/evade are all great. Only class able to escape better than a ranger would be an ele or thief.

Rangers I just feel are too dependent on condition damage and bunker builds. Even if you went all glass and acknowledged you’d be 2 shot by everyone, they still don’t gain any real damage for doing it. Only option is like full apothecary regen bunker builds while running around auto-attacking.

If you are running around just auto attacking, you’re doing it wrong.

There is a whole lot of layers to the Ranger, on the outside you probably don’t see a lot of it. For instance certain weapon skills give our pets buffs on the next attack, combined with well timed slot skills your pets can hit for substantial numbers.

Then you have the pet which is a layer in itself. Timing your pet switches for quickness and timing your pets skills is not easy mid combat.
Then you can get a lot more advanced with them such as chaining canine knock downs.

SB uses a lot of auto attacking, but melee is nothing but fun.

Haha, yes we all have. I honestly wish enemies could see what we type in /say because I just want to scream at them to stop doing that.

Trib that’s certainly one way to do it regarding thieves, I just hate giving them even a chance at a free shot on me. Cripple usually gets wiped the second they go into stealth anyway.

Then again our playstyles are very different. While you are pushing them away with LB, I am usually trying to close with the GS and stay right in their face.

Honestly though my absolute favorite thing in this game is when a thief goes into stealth and you pop wolfs fear just at the right time and the thief reappears doing the funny walk in the opposite direction. Then its just GS 3, 5, 2 switch pet/weapons and its good night.

Not my type of build but I always appreciate a melee ranger.

Right now I am running GS/1hs/torch. Since I have so much cond dmg I like the torch for the burns, and with my traited 50% endurance regen I don’t need the extra evade.

I’m running 0/0/30/10/30. This is the build you want if you want to be constantly in the front line. I passive regen for well over 300hp per tick without any abilities going. Well over that when the battle gets going.

I use the HP regen signet, LR and movement signet. LR is a must have for this build, stun breaker with evades coming out the wazoo afterwards.

This build is EXTREMELY hard to put down once youget your evade timing down with your sword skills. I’m running apothecary with dwayna runes.

Essentially with runes and traits I have regen up almost all the time, 5 evades(with 150% endurance regen after LR) constant passive HP regen and condition wipes, with pets that knock you down and also fear and cripple you.

My personal experience with this build has been great, you will eat glass cannons for breakfast.

Xirin you nailed it right on the head: most use dual bows for ease of use. That combined with the seemingly lack of general knowledge about their own class makes for a stigma on the rest of us.

How many times have you gotten face to face with a ranger and he just sat there and did his LB AOE? I don’t even bother to dodge out of it, just quick combo him down.

Trib,
To each their own on builds, but personally I never use LB outside of zerg. #5 is worthless to me because anyone decent will dodge out(and its not a lot of dmg to begin with" and its a channel skill. This means you cannot move during the animation, which opens you up to easy back stabs. I prefer the torchs campfire skill. Put down the fire field and get an easy burn on, or if they avoid it you can just leap through for fire aura so its not wasted.

The amount of evades, escapes, passive health regen and cond wipes make us a scary opponent when played right.

I’ll just throw this out there: Nine times out of ten I don’t even need to pop my heal vs LB/SB power build rangers.

What I’ve mostly learned from this thread is people do not understand how to play ranger.

No escapes? Lightning reflexes? GS#3? 1hs#2? Shared anguish/hide in plain sight?

Its absolutely amazing to me anyone who has played ranger extensively say they aren’t good 1v1. I excell in small skirmishes and 1v1 its extremely rare I get put down.

Learn how to play the class before you put it down. At least two different thieves I dueled yesterday were asking about my build because they’ve never seen ranger played that way.

I won’t delve into specifics here but PM me if you want any info. I’m full bunker with canines running only melee weapons for small group play, its stupid hard to hit me.

Jscull.2514:

Do me a favor, scroll up and read what I wrote to that cantur guy. Where I clearly stated NSP and hod are no different just less people. We are here for kills. They said u were cool. No problem. But first time we see you we pump no breaks. On that same note you’ll never find one of us bragging when we kill someone outnumbered.

Edit: you’re one guy that took what I said offensively on the other side of the fence. Glad you’re on that side of it, but you are .00001 percent of a 100 that we face man. I’m speaking to the other 99.9999% of your server.

It’s all good , just gets tiresome hearing about how awful of fighters we are. I know we don’t have a lot of roamers, but we do have some good ones out there.

Obviously I’m a little touchy on the subject, considering I face a lot of what you guys face but I am usually by myself(my guild is usually involved in the massive battles) so it’s extra awful when 10 guys chase me for 5 minutes then dance on my corpse like they won something.

I respect you guys out on the field, hopefully we can get some good fights going.

Jscull stop lumping an entire server into one group. I’m on SF so you’re speaking directly to me as well. Ask some of your guys I fought the other day, I’m out solo roaming every day that I get on.

BTW your PAXA boys jumped me 3v1 the first time we met, although while they couldn’t down me it still goes against this mantra of looking for fair fights.

Although huge credit to the three of yours I did speak to in /w(Zelrin,Miller, and the Skritt engi guy) they did avoid attacking me when outnumbered.

The point is I rarely find a good 1v1 in this tier. Most of the time I am getting ganked mid fight or running from groups of 10. I don’t even stomp players when I 1v1, I let them go unless I’m out numbered.

NSP and HoD are no different than us, we just have more people overall.

Signa Blackthorn
SF Ranger
Gore