Guild Wars 2

To anyone on HoD or NSP, I’m down for a duel. Any class or build, idc. Whisper me in game or just throw me a wave when you see me roaming, let’s keep it fun I don’t feel a need to trash talk or be disrespectful.

Also to the small guilds complaining about how SF has no roamers, stop 3v1ing people or quit whining. It’s silly to complain about not finding skilled roamers when you always attack soloers with numbers.

Credit to PAXA on this, after a quick whisper with a few of their guildies we have a mutual respect. Hate them all you want, they are very fun to battle against.

Hope to see some soloers out there! Os plz stop sending ele/thief combos to chase me across the map.

Signa Blackthorn
SF Ranger
Gore

Fun little 2v2 with Os ele/thief combo

I was the SF ranger from Gore with the mes. Whisper me in game some time if you want to set something up for funsies, props on some interesting fights.

hopefully we’ll see you out there again soon, sorry for picking on the ele everytime btw just knew we werent going to be able to get the thief before CnD until the ele was down

I’m sorry but if you honestly think 1hs isn’t one of(if not the)best weapons we have in wvw, you have no idea how to play this class in melee combat.

It comes with 2 evades, a poison, and an easy escape button.

I can understand preferring the GS for certain situations, but if you ignore 1hs you are ignoring great weapon set.

Too many pew pew power rangers out there, it would be nice to see other players using this class in close quarters.

I’m not banking on hope or maybes anymore.

I love the playstyle of the class, bunker melee ranger can be so much fun hopping around when outnumbered.

Problem is it sounds like you’re more of a PvE guy,, which is great but completely different gameplay.

I’ve loved and defended this class forever, but I can’t honestly say we are on par with other classes. We are very good 1v1 and PvE/tPvP, we are embarrassingly underpowered group oriented combat compared to all other classes.

This is not a QQ thread. I won’t be saying Anet killed my favorite build, that we aren’t viable, and I sure as hell won’t be deleting my decked out bunker ranger. I just can’t play him for the time being, it’s just painful. This latest patch wasn’t what killed it for me, it was just the last straw.
I will only get on this guy if we need immediate help in WvW.

We have zero direction as a class, and it’s becoming clear we are an afterthought to the devs. The quickness nerf is understandable when you look at overall balance, but you completely nuked a main ranger aspect with absolutely nothing done to compensate(no, a 1 sec buff and stun breaker on QZ doesn’t make up for a 50% reduction). The GS buffs were nice, its certainly better now but let’s not pretend its a game changer.

I can still play my ranger, and still be good at it. The problem is that I can be a substantially better if I use a different class. I’ve defended this class since the beginning, I was so excited to see the direction we were heading with this patch. What I got for my patience and dedication was a single weapon set minor buff, and class wide changing nerfs. The engineer basically got the attention we’ve been pleading for, and frankly I’m done waiting. Spirits are an absolute joke, name one other classes main aspects that is so utterly useless? Its been broken beyond belief for months, and we haven’t even seen an attempt to improve the situation. I don’t expect perfection, I know things take time, but spirits are a massive failure for which there are no legit excuses.

Most of the pet specific slot skills are bugged and/or broken entirely.
You meganerfed EB, again with nothing to compensate
You removed the Guarding pets up walls trick, with nothing to compensate. Mesmer clones can go up and down walls seamlessly, but my friggin EAGLE can’t fly up or down 15 feet? Right.
My pet(you know the one who does 40ish% of my damage) cannot hit a moving target reliably.

I’m done torturing myself. I’m done defending this class, because outside of sPvP we are extremely underpowered. Why even make the class in the first place if you have zero intentions of maintaining it?

Show me that even one single dev plays this class regularly in WvW, and I will pick my ranger right back up and play again. Until then I will play literally any other class, because this one isn’t worth it until you prove that you even A) understand the class andcare about fixing it.

Sorry for another thread, I’m beyond frustrated and feel like I’ve been misled. Again.

There’s no way a warrior can handle 1v2+ anywhere close to a bunker ranger. He will way out DPS the ranger, but its game over when he’s on CD.

0/0/30/10/30

Mostly apothecary, I mix in some Cleric and Shaman as well so I have a little bit more oomph behind my hits. This build works with every weapon set, I use SB/sword+torch when I’m solo, flip on GS when grouped.

Two MUST HAVE slot skills: LR and Healing signet. All of that HPower combined with that signet makes for a very tanky build. LR is needed for the stun breaker(evade + endur regen is just icing)

Use whatever you like for the last one, I usually use movement signet until I get close then I flip to QZ.

Must have traits: Shared Anguish, Hide in Plain Sight, EB

EB is a must have for removal, even with the nerf 3 removes every 10 ticks is fine with this build.

If you’re going to be fighting outnumbered you need the other two traits. Most players are pretty dumbfounded when the opponent ignores their stuns, these traits allow you to control the fight. No more guardian bubble bouncing, watch the horror fill his eyes when you reappear holding that flag.

The BM traits are going to depend on your pets, I run wolf and fern because when traited they both apply AOE cripple which can let you escape. The Wolfs fear will allow you to not only interrupt rezzes, you can buy extra time for stomps. Some people prefer cats or birds, which is fine too, so trait accordingly.

My other two BM traits are Natural Healing(which actually let’s dogs stay up a bit) and the f2 recharges faster. Neither I would say are must haves, more personal preference.

This build doesn’t burst like others. This is meant to survive through passive health regen, with bigtimme toughness. LR combined with the 1h sword makes us a stupid hard class to connect hits on. By the time their cooldowns are available, we’ve fully regenned.

I haven’t lost 1v1 with this for a very long time, only the occasional stalemate vs DD eles and perma thieves.

I’ve taken numerous lvl 80s at a time with this, and can usually survive and escape when heavily out numbered.

The burst damage isn’t great, but the survivability combined with the nonstop flurry of little hits breaks people apart very quickly when played right.

I’d really love to duel someone fluent in running OPs build, as I rarely run into builds like this roaming on my tier.

It looks like a good build, similar to my own but I think this one is a little more 1v1 specific where I tend to be fighting vs multiples.

Sic em to me isn’t worth it, such a long CD, its buggy, pets have obvious tracking issues, etc…
I think if you’re going to survive against multiple foes LR is a must, I personally find LR be our most valuable slot skill outside of the regen signet.

I prefer to run dogs, with the canine f2 cripple trait. Whenever my fern or wolf use their F2 its an AOE cripple, combined with LR and swoop its pretty hard to get me down.

Overall I like the general build, but it’s too dependant on your pet and is single target specific. Sic em is a great burst option, but IMO lacks the utility of what I consider to be more valuable slot skills.

That idea completely kills the solo roamer/small group play and effectively encourage those players to join the zerg so they can survive.

In no way would it ever be fun to fight someone who had an unreasonable advantage like that. There is a way to fix this or at least mitigate it but IMO this idea is not it.

Narc,

You’re right, ET and FC are much easier points to get right now than SF. I know that’s unpleasant as I’m sure you’d rather be killing big brother SF who has been winning for ages now, but the reality is SF will start hulk smashing who ever makes a run at our BL.

To stay our of third place means you have to focus on each other, which only makes it easier for SF. I would suggest an alliance and to double team against us, but we saw how that worked last time.

Sucks for everyone involved, all anyone really wants is a new opponent. I don’t care if we get crushed when if we move to t7, the current match up is beyond stale. I really don’t want to transfer out of the tier because I like my current guild, but I honestly can’t take much more of this.

As others have said GS is more about defense than offense.

Your pet will always out damage you per hit, this is offset by us hitting much more often than our pet. The ranger itself is more about attrition. We aren’t going to put up crazy crit numbers but we are constantly ticking damage and CC.

Ranger is not the class for you if you are wanting to see big single hit numbers. Not trying to be insulting what so ever, its just the way we are now. Outside of LB barrage on QZ, we don’t burst much.

I think this depends on the situation and your personal style.

I usually wvw as a bunker build.

In big fights I am the shock trooper. I go all melee and fly into the zerg. I have enough passive health regen/toughness/evades I can do damage and cause chaos but still make it back out and heal. I’m always front line with the guardians, this is obviously a risky playstyle but you when played right can really effect the battle.

Offensively in a siege I have enough survivability to be upfront taking out siege and AOEing the walls. My damage output doesn’t matter much here, its just to keep defenders off of the siege and allow the rams some freedom.

Defensively this build is so much fun. Its a blast rushing out of the gate and harassing the people on the rams. With QZ and BM pet swap you can get some fast and easy stomps before the need to retreat.

Also I think we make terrific scouts/roamers. I can easily escape if I am out numbered, and I can keep 3-5 enemies busy until help arrives.

In the end I think our best strengths comes down to mobility and survivability. I’ve only run across a few roamers who could go toe to toe with me, usually only DD eles and perma thieves(although one glass cannon warrior came really close to burstin me down, was really impressive but it was game over once he was on cooldowns). I haven’t lost a small fight in a long time, usually its a stalemate or someone escapes. I’m not trying to brag about myself, just saying bunker ranger can be crazy good in wvw.

Trust me there is no way SF is teaming up with ET. We just bring the tidal wave wherever the least amount of green is.

Can’t blame ET for piggybacking off of us in FCBL, it’s the smart play. You have to know if you hit SFBL we are bringing the masses immediately, so GL holding vs that.

When there’s no hope of getting first you might as well make sure you get second. FC right now is the easy target.

ET btw seems to be the only ones I see making runs at our BLs lately.

IMO shared anguish and hide in plain sight are our most valuable traits.

Is there anything better than a guardians aoe knockback hitting everyone but you, knocking them all back while you just stomp him. Glorious.

BTW they don’t work in conjunction from what I’ve seen. Everytime the stun/KD goes to my pet from SA, then the next one makes you go invis. One stun ignore is valuable, having the second one is just beautiful.

You say you want more survivability but only one attribute in each set would actually improve it(tough/vit)

Vitality/Toughness/Healing are what I would suggest if you want to stay up longer. Healing power goes extremely well with rangers imo.

I’m assuming you are traited heavily into power/prec, that with your zerker gear is plenty. I’d personally put as much as you can into tough/vital/heal to balance things out.

If you’re sticking with dual bows then why the hell not max that dmg

So now you’re backing the system that we’re all complaining about in a thread like two up from this one?

It’s an awful system for us in tier 8…unless you can use it to prove how good you are. Right.

Huge props to Detharos for speaking up for us in tier 8.

It’s a shame so many people from higher tiers feel the need to come here and speak like this. I personally chose SF when I got the game because of real life friends, I didn’t even know what wvw was. Now you’re saying I have to pay 20g just to have a wvw experience on par with everyone elses? That’s on top of leaving my guild as well.

Telling us to cry about it because we’re only tier 8 isn’t a solution, it’s just insulting. If we all just keep transferring to a different tier, the problems will still be there and eventually start effecting the higher tiers.

Detharos I’m not sure why you’re going on about Kain or other stuff from months ago as I clearly stated I was speaking of the last week. You can laugh all you want, but are you really going to tell me with a straight face that you’ve put up a real fight the last week?

Ungood everyone knows Glicko has a blind spot for tier 8. If you’re claiming its the right and correct system then you also have to think this is the correct match up, right?

I’ll go ahead and prepare for all the replies about you guys being amazingly skilled players who are only losing because we have a giant mindless zergball with no talent, direction, or organization to speak of.

If you’ve never seen an ET zerg of 20 plus you probably don’t play much wvw…

Look we all know SF has the highest population, can we stop trying to pretend ET and FC have no people at all? It’s flat out embarassing at this point. Yes you are out numbered a lot of the time, that doesn’t mean its 5 vs 50 cmon now.

Just last night you had a zerg bigger than that, I know for a fact it was higher than twenty.

The match up sucks, we all know it. It’s not helping anyone when you flat out lie/are in denial about the numbers disparity. We sure do have higher numbers, if we are as disorganized and terrible as you imply you shouldn’t be getting slaughtered every day.

Be real.

It looks fine for PvE, you will get rolled in wvw though.

I’ve used shortbow + sword/torch for at least 40 levels now.

Sword is easily our best weapon IMO. It’s easily the most viable in wvw. If you don’t have anyone targeted the sword alone can be used for 3 dodges. I often escape zergs because of this skill, combined with lightning reflexes you can be a real pain to fight.

I’ve still never even come close to losing to a longbow ranger. Everytime its the same thing:
They pull that lame AOE that I don’t even bother to dodge because it does nothing to my HP
They try the knockback but its transferred to my pet
I evade the barrage
And I’m in your face now
Game Over, stomped.

Anyone not using a sword in wvw is not maximizing their class.

I can certainly understand that argument, I’m more referring to those of us who want to severely punish people for doing something natural and frankly should be encouraged(grouping) or eliminate large groups all together.

It’s silly, isn’t it? Remove the AOE limits so we can fight them fairly, but other than that leave it. Don’t nerf the mob.

I just don’t see the logic in getting upset in people making large groups in a game mode based around war.

This WvW is supposed to mimick warfare, correct? Since when is strength in numbers not a valid tactic?

If you have superior numbers, you use them.

If you have superior tactics, you use them.

What’s the difference?

Zerg is a way for the less experienced players to learn more about wvw without being slaughtered. Again, I’m not sure why gathering a large force isn’t considered a valid tactic.

You can cry about it being less skilled all you want, no one cares. There’s always going to be strength in numbers, to punish zergs would be silly wouldn’t it?

Jeknar pipe down on the drama, I never said any of that. I clearly took issue with everyone blaming everything on numbers and that we might still win with significantly less. I never once said SF would win no matter what, stop trying to start drama.

Jeknar I’m not taking the time out of my day for that, just look in your own BL and you’ll see. Pretending you only lose due to numbers every time isn’t going to make anyone better.

SF is winning by such a large margin because of numbers, but that doesn’t mean we wouldn’t win with a smaller margin if we lost some numbers.

Yeah I mad. It’s annoying when people try and discount everything we do because we have a larger server.

I don’t think FC or ET realize just how many more numbers they’ll need to compete.

They like to pretend that the only reason they are losing is because of numbers, as if they are consistently winning when its close numbers which is rarely the case.

I’m not talking about primetime hours either because I work during those hours.

Maybe they do perform like that when I’m not on, but when I am on I see those equal number fights usually turning out in our favor.

I personally run the health and movement signets, and lightning reflexes.

You can say how mediocre they are all you want but I routinely troll zergs because they just can’t bring me down, which is directly related to these skills.

Not many classes use a passive speed buff and don’t run swiftness builds either, meaning without using any skills I can either kite or escape rather easily. It’s extremely useful with the short bow because I can stack dmg while fools chase me.

Health signet combined with all of my healing power let’s me ignore most attacks. Last night I lured a group of 6 for about 5 minutes before I finally got them into our supply camp where with the help of the supervisor I slaughtered them all(obv some were up lvled and undergeared, that being said I don’t have a single exotic). My passive health regen also let’s me ignore most dmg conditions because my health regen ticks for more health than they do dmg.

Lightning reflexes allows me to safely engage groups of 5. After I’ve used all 5 of my dodges I can burst that to basically reset the right. Combine sword skill 2 with LR and you can cover a lot of ground.

I think our slot skills are generally OK, they just take quite a bit more build synergy to maximize the benefits.

I’ve had a lot better luck now that I bound every pet action to my keyboard

I use the return to me button as a sort of makeshift dodge. If I see the thing winding up or an obvious aoe I just pull him back until it goes off then send him right back in. If the pet switch isn’t on CD then you can use that as an evade as well.

It doesn’t take all that much micromanagement once you bind them to friendlier keys, after awhile it’ll just be second nature.

I think also playing wvw and using pet switch for the haste buff really helped me learn to maximize my pets.

I run fern hound/wolf both of which have aoe skills, so I found there attacks are much easier to control if you just make him stick to you. Then you can hit the action whenever you want and it’ll activate near you, negating the problems of the pet not catching his target.

Not perfect fixes by any means, but we have to make do with what we have.

I almost never PvE anymore, all WvW, but I run 0 0 30 10 30

The BM tree obviously is the way to go if you’re focusing on pets. The Wolf is a great canine because of his passive skill KDs and his on command fear, which can be a life saver.

10 pts into the vitality tree to make your regens 30% longer, synergizes extremely well with fern hound.

I went the rest into cond dmg because of shared anguish and empathic bond. If you’re buffing the pet you might as well make it even more useful, this tree will let the pets take stuns for you and removes conditions passively.

I won’t comment on your weapon choices as it seems more like a pve build. WvW you almost have to run a one hand sword for the dodges.

It certainly feels different. I was fighting this thief around a bunch of PvE stuff, my wolf was tracking him right when he left stealth. I’ll play more tonight and see if its just my imagination, but thieves were helpless against me 1v1.

What I noticed even more was the difference against mesmers. After he blinked my pet never lost the track, it took me split seconds to pick him out again. Was it always like this? It might again just be my imagination but it felt like mesmers were much easier to retarget.

I think you’ll be ok if you stick to large groups and just pew pew all day to farm badges, but if anyone breaks through and you have to fight man to man you’re going to get worked.

Not nearly enough burst to have such low defenses.

You may very well own with this build, but I personally see no point in going power for WvW.

I’ll just say this: I look for rangers with the opening shot symbol. I have never lost to one, and I don’t fear that I ever will. Just last night I beat the same power ranger at least 3 times straight, not once needing to use my healing skill. I honestly could just sit there and melee without bothering to dodge.

I think this build could be useful for helping to defend a keep, but exceptionally weak for small fights/1v1s.

Warriors complaining about the lack of build diversity…hahahaha.

How could you possibly thing this wasn’t due for a nerf if so many people can’t live without it?

Going full glass clannon that heals like a champ…sounds fair!

People are actually complaining about having to put points in the HEALTH tree to get more HEALTH. Amazing.

Love the nerf

Don’t get me wrong the idea isn’t a bad one, its just entirely unfair.

How is it a good idea to further alienate off peak hours players?

You’re just going to make the peak hours that much more busy, which means longer queues which we know will kitten everyone off. Conversely you’ll also see less people playing on off peak hours because of the reduced reward.

And since when do we cater to people? Why is it not a valid tactic to stack numbers when you know they don’t have them? It certainly would help FC or ET if they could take advantage of slow times.

I just see so many negatives to this, if you can’t handle night capping that’s your own problem.

Technically speaking; yes they are.

How are you going to quantify this in a fair manner?

What about back capping empty towers, why do you get extra for that?

There’s no fair way to implement it.

Do you know crazy you sound?

I didn’t choose to play at any certain time, I play when I can.

I honestly can’t think of an idea that would kill wvw faster than this. We both accomplish the same task, yet you get rewarded more for it. Brilliant plan.

Hey all you night shift workers, foreigners, insomniacs,etc…might as well quit now because you don’t mean anything to wvw.

So let me get this straight. You want to be rewarded more than I do for the exact same task. I want everyone to get the same reward, yet I’m the selfish one?

You act like no one during the day back caps or ninjas stuff, how is that any different?

Implement this idea if you want everyone but the unemployed power nerds to quit wvw entirely.

“Hey we need more wvwers!”

“How about we make people who work at certain hours feel completely left out of wvw to the point of quitting?”

“Brilliant!”

Laughable thread.

I work more than 40 hours a week, have a full course load in college, and living with my girlfriend, chances are I’m busy at peak hours.

I’m sorry my life doesn’t revolve around videogames and that I have to actually feel sunlight on my skin.

It’s amazing that you want to punish people that have things to do, I won’t even begin to address the obvious silliness of punishing those outside of the US.

Just because you don’t play at those hours does not mean that a whole lot of us do. Stop being so self centered.

If this is how tier 1 behaves I’m going to steer clear.

You post a condescending post full of ignorance, which is quickly proven to be incorrect, so you tell people to shut up. What an elitist arrogant fool.

I wasn’t complaining about it negatively effecting sorrows furnace, I was pointing out that our entire server lacks the man power to play such games so it’s having a negative effect on everyone in T8.

I’m not sure why you think we can’t cap things, its too easy which is the entire complaint.

Seriously are you trolling me right now or are you always this ridiculous?

Is all of tier 1 like this guy?

Mance, just stop.

You can’t even name the server that’s roflstomping the tier, yet you know enough about it to argue with the people who play in it daily? What?

I’m on “that one server with the high pop”(Sorrows Furnace, btw mr informed). We don’t have the numbers(especially outside of peak hours) to run scouts and keep defenders in currently idle places. We also lack organization or communication outside of our good guilds.

They do face the same problem as us, we just have more coverage and larger zergs to take advantage.

Please come to tier8 and actually participate for five minutes so you can have even a idea of what you’re talking about.

Rangers can remove 3 conditions every 10 seconds, not too shabby and with a bunker build the passive health regen can negate burning/bleeding entirely.

No control? Right now I have a stun, cripple, 2 poisions, and fear. Not nearly the best but capable.

The no escape one is just not true. I have 6 evades to use before I have to worry about cooldowns. Lightning reflexes and 2 on sword should be enough to get away from anyone other than dd ele or maybe a thief.

I haven’t even mentioned the amazing entangle. ApE root with significant bleed? Yes please.

I’m honestly amazed someone would say ranger is weak 1v1. Outside of thieves, I feel like I have the advantage 1v1.

I’m not quite understanding what you just said, sorry.

If you’re complaining about rangers being purposely excluded from groups, I agree that’s ridiculous.

We could definitely use a buff to get the stigma off, but honestly we need better rangers as well.

I know the conversation is pve fight now, but for instance in wvw I see power rangers trying to 1v1 me by using the LB aoe. I tend to stand right in it and cut them down.

If we play smart with our pets they won’t be a liability in dungeons, we won’t be hated on as much in pve.

If we played more to our strengths in wvw we wouldn’t be laughed at.

Its a strange class, tbh. Some of the best players I’ve seen were rangers, and some of the most awful players were rangers too. We may be a weaker class but played right it can be very effective.

Looks like we see Ranger the same way cap.

I agree our class is too focused on the pet, especially in the traits. Nothing we can do about that other than to wait for a patch and adapt.

I don’t depend on my pet for anything, even damage. I went bunker just for that fact, so if my pet is on CD or something its not a big deal.

I wish the pet was more effective, or we could trait away and make ourselves more effective, but that’s not the case.

If my pet can add some DPS, distract a bit, and provide fear/regen then I’m pretty happy with it.

It has no use at all in WvW. It certainly can do something, but its not worth using a slot over other skills.

Other than a quick stealth and protection, I can essentially do the rest myself with binds.

If you’re using EB you need the pet near you so guard is worthless there

I’m 30 into BM, yet I won’t waste even a second of my time worrying about my pet having protection. It’s smarter to just swap your pet prematurely and have another slot skill available.

The pet by itself is a minor annoyance, so again I see zero benefit from having it guarding downstairs or something. You can try and pretend its going to sit down there and make an impact, but we all know people aren’t even going to pay attention to it.

If you have guard on and we come across each other, I will win. Everytime.

You’re pet will go stealth with protection for a second, I’ll LOL that you chose that option, then bury you.

PvE I can see some utility, but the only thing its useful for in wvw is making yourself a target.

Definitely another option cap.

Really anything that can slow them down or prevent stealth for even a second. Most thieves go glass cannon on my server so one solid root could end it.

Stun on short bow with cripple right after is also a nice combo, if you can toss the torch before he hits stealth you should be able to negate a good amount of his healing.

Which means he’s unstealthing below full health or has to wait to regen, either way you control the fight now.

Skirmishing.

Bunker rangers can still roll people 1v1 so I’d start by running supply/picking off reinforcements. Kill ALL the cows.

In bigger fights(I’m bunker btw) I stick more to the fringes. My build has crazy passive health regen and evades out the wazoo so I can wade into the zerg drop some fields and pop back out.

My build is also a terrific medic. Dropping a heal spring at the right time or location can be a game changer.

Just use your strengths really. Trap rangers can toss out nasty fields left and right, bunkers can harass and destroy people who even get slightly separated.

You keep saying if we cared about defending…

I can’t say this any clearer: We do not have the numbers.

If we use scouts or keep players in empty towers, we’ll never take enemy keeps again. It’s difficult enough to field competitive numbers in tier 8, near impossible to use the little we have for luxury roles.

I don’t quite understand why you feel like you are qualified to argue with people about T8 when they fight in it every single day.

I don’t comment about tier 1 because I haven’t set foot in it, I’d suggest you do the same.

It’s PvE, cry about it. In PvE you just have to stay alive and kill things, which rangers can do just fine. I’ve never had a problem being a major contributor in PvE. You have the best water field in the game, all sorts of traps, pets utility skills, and multiple viable pve builds. If you aren’t contributing then you need to be more creative.

If you’re having fun and a contributing member of the group, who cares if another class is better or not? You’re not competing against others in pve.

Whatever dude, enjoy your cheesy OP class. All thieves get is permastealth, and they give rangers correct pet icons????

What’s next, being allowed in dungeon groups?

Dogs and cats living together!!

To the guy asking about which pet is the best against thieves:

Hands down the wolf for me because of fear. Last night I was smoking thieves because my pet was staying right on his heels as soon as he came out of stealth.

Wolf just has to be in the general area for fear to hit, so if you know he’s close to you just pop it. Gives them essentially a 3 second stun. Here is where paying attention pays off big.

If the thief breaks the stun of the fear(I know its not a real stun, but you know what I mean he can’t control anything) immediately entangle his kitten and break him down. If he doesn’t then break it then I was hitting 5 on SB, immediately followed by 4 and 2, that should give you a second to close in if you haven’t already. Now hit entagle if you have it, if its on CD then put down campfire and wait for the body to appear.

Fearing thieves has made them much easier to handle, even if you don’t get the kill it gives your evade CDs a chance to reup and heal.

I thought it was going to crush my bunker ranger, but last night I was stomping as many unfortunate glass cannons as I usually do.

I’m using dogs for the toughness, cats just went down too fast and didn’t have enough dmg to compensate.

Bind your pet skills to the keyboard, it’ll get rid of half of your problems. BM tree let’s you switch pets every 15s so you should be able to keep them up if you stay on top of it.

My tip for pets? Ignore everything but survivability and their utility skills. Who cares if the Jag does more dmg than the wolf? The wolf can fear and stays alive longer which means its doing damage for longer.

Pets IMO are just a sustained DOT with unique skills, if you treat it like that instead of an EQ style pet I think you’ll enjoy it more.

Use them for distraction and utility, depend on them for nothing else.

I’d love some more roamers/smaller teams to come to SF BL. Usually its painted green so I’m off running around in one of your BLs, although I prefer that sometimes because I get a kick out of getting the zerg to chase me.

Gotta get the less involved WvWers on SF to start calling out more on mapchat. I got to greenbriar being sieged by about 20, had 5 defenders or so and not a single one raised an alarm.

I sent one out and low and behold the cavalry arrived and took care of business.

Its going to take some getting used to, be we need to adapt a bit better to the lack of orange swords.

BTW sorry to that thief I was battling for a good five minutes(I was the ranger hanging between GL and RB) we had a great fight for awhile until they jumped in.

I’d love to set up a round 2 and see if we can finish it, it was really fun fighting a skill thief who didn’t stealth and run at the first sign of a real fight.

Do you know how insanely arrogant as well as ignorant you sound when you spout that BS about L2P because T8 doesn’t have the numbers for scouts.

We know the need for scouts, but guess what we can’t learn man power genius. Just getting the new WvWers to go to the right general area is difficult, good luck getting them to scout and even if they did they don’t tell anyone in map chat.

Grats for being on a higher tier server with enough people to sit around and scout, we don’t have the luxury.

Don’t forget that your server is the one in the higher tier not you, don’t pretend for even a second that makes you even a mediocre player.