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I feel like I need to add my say into threads like these with crap loads of complaining going on. I really, really enjoy HoT. I love the maps, adventures, masteries, story, new specs, I love it all. Now that I have really gotten to sink my teeth in and put many hours into it, I can say I am having a freakin blast. I’ve unlocked a number of my specialization collections and have been running the maps like a beast on my thief. If you wanted casual play, too bad, that’s not what they said it would be. They told us it would be lasting content, which as long as you pace yourself (eat, sleep, work, ect) it turns out it does take a while. So enjoy the scenery! Or sit in a dark room groaning about “grind”.
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I have gotten four of my lvl 80’s elite specs unlocked without going passed 50% completion of the second map. I have done this almost completely on my own, solo. This includes hero points that spawn champs. Last night I unlocked my scrapper by soloing a group event hero point. I do not consider myself hardcore at all. I do not follow meta builds or anyone’s build but what I come up with. My daredevil is a bit of a glass cannon and I can still solo all of the first map. The new content is not every player’s cup o’ tea. Many players have not only beaten the story already, but completed all the maps as well. I have yet to fully explore two of them. Take your time learning the new areas and mechanics of the new enemies, this is key. Do not be afraid to make changes to your play style. In HoT the whole jungle is against you, it wouldn’t be fair otherwise!
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Again, the argument isn’t difficulty. I respect that you are willing and capable of soloing it. But please address the rest of my points, Cerberus.
NOU (pout face) But seriously, I would be kitten if they changed a thing.
LoL. Fair enough on your point.
I am glad to see someone actually responding to points made by people. I see the content like sparring in martial arts. It takes a good long while to get anywhere and when you do, someone beats you easily anyway. It will always challenge you to be better. HoT mobs are like taking a punch to the face, they make me grit my teeth and want more. I will fight my way through the jungle and unlock elite specs, but I will take my time doing so.
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Again, the argument isn’t difficulty. I respect that you are willing and capable of soloing it. But please address the rest of my points, Cerberus.
NOU (pout face) But seriously, I would be kitten if they changed a thing.
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MHCerberus, the argument isn’t difficulty, it is soloability along with easy to find players when needed && no grinding to get what you want (within reason).
It’s not easy to solo HoT, but that is exactly what I am doing. Problem?
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Community: We want harder content and end-game!
Devs: Okay! Here you go!
Community: T-T Stop making us work for things, nerf now!
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Guild Wars 2: Heart Of Thoughtless Grinds
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Posted by: MHCerberus.1385
So SW grinding for gold is fine, but when they give you a reason to play and actually unlock things you complain? I love going back to my characters again and leveling to discover new traits. Sorry to hear that so many players want free stuff but instant gratification is not why I play games. Also, I hear many players talking about how much time they have as if Anet should make things easier because you have a job. I run a business and work on the side. I may not have kids, but I can make time here and there. This is not the place to moan about being an adult and not being able to play for 6-8 hours a day.
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WOOO I got replies! Sorry for not checking this sooner, like during the rest of beta. I was able to get quite a bit closer to the platform but you could not see the statues from that distance. I do have some screenshots from underneath the structure that show a rounded, gold base. I will also post some others showing the area far to the east of the beta map. Getting to that spot (something shade) required gliding over invisible walls. This whole thing reminded me of .HACK//Sign. I would post more pictures but I am at work atm.
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I may have found a hidden musaat temple at the top of the map…
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Zerker, Assassins, Sinister, Rampagers, and so forth
Anything that lacks Toughness, Vitality, or Healing Power is considered Meta in my book as your focused on DPS as much as any Zerker.
Meta is more than just about your gear, but also about your trait setup and what skills and weapons you use. Also imo there is a difference between running meta build because it is meta, and running same build because it happen to be what you find fun, and the fact that it is meta, is just a coincidence
THIS^ I run two main builds on my thief. One condition using D/D and one Crit using D/D. My crit one is probably pretty close to meta, but I made it myself because it’s fun and it’s how I enjoy playing. I am glad to see such a fast response to my post.
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So I am one of those players that instead of following the meta and finding builds online, I create my own through trial and error. I have made some pretty nasty builds that allow me to solo dungeons, fractal bosses, and simply kill things very quickly. In chat though I see people saying that they do 30k damage on auto attack. I also here my friends saying that they crit for 30-50k. I am sitting right next to them, do more damage than them, and I am not hitting that hard. Am I alone in thinking that many players do not understand the difference between 3000 and 30000? I see people talking about doing as much as 90k dmg on normal enemies like it’s nothing, and I still kill that same thing faster. Are players mistaken? Am I just such a pleb?
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(That must be… a lot of exotics)
I do have much more dark matter now =3 Also this picture is great, I actually lol’d at this. I can understand that some players find it fun to speed run and think of dungeons like a job. As in, “I put x time in, I should get x rewards”. I find it way more fun to play this game as a challenging but relaxed time, the loot and rewards are a bonus to me because it’s the rest of it that makes it worth while for me. I also find, as seen in kitten picture, that by playing this way I enjoy playing more often and I get greater rewards. My real-life jobs are a bit stressful, so I like my gaming time to be relaxing.
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I would love to be able to at least save my traits. Of course being able to save my armor/weapons would be really cool, I could live with just traits. Right now I take screen shots of my setup.
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Something just made me very, very happy. So there I was at my bro’s house Saturday night. Four of us with our big gaming computers, beer, and over-sized monitors all crammed into his room to run dungeons. Mind you, I get kitten in forums but in-game I am very calm and cool about dealing with other players. My brother however, likes to mess with people. All four of us dislike to skip things in dungeons. First run, CoF P1. We get Ele with legendary weapons and nice titles that agrees to not skip. We get to the bridge when they say, “we can just run passed this”. UGH, we talk and find someone else. They continue to message us about how we are kitten noobs and should learn how to play. We get Thief using D/D. He plows through everything thing while caps typing danger zone and telling us how much better it feels to fight everything. He sticks with us a few runs. Next run, TA both nightmare paths. We get low AP pug that starts right off the bat telling us that skipping is better and we should learn to play. My brother goes off. Both go at each other like angry teens for minutes. Pug settles to run through with us to prove his point. Half way through, he tells us that this is the most fun he has had in a dungeon. Suddenly we all get along and telling jokes while beating everything down. He calculated that he made an extra 2 gold per run this way. Ran 4 more dungeons with him. Every time (not exaggerating) we killed that areas players normally skip, someone got an exotic. That feel when we made believers and great friends out of skippers. That last pug was about to stop playing because he found dungeons boring, work. He now wants to run them for fun.
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but when will the skipping crowd accept that being able to destroy every enemy in the path quickly requires skill and that enjoying combat in a combat based game is not kittened in the head?
We enjoy combat in the game. Boss combat. Bosses have tells and mechanics and don’t die to one auto attack. Fighting trash mobs doesn’t require reacting to tells or dodging. That isn’t a good example of the GW2 combat system. When they fix Lupicus, I suggest you learn to solo him. Once you’ve done an off the wall lupicus solo you can lecture us on what is more fun.
So can I lecture you now? I love boss fights, and I love solo’ing bosses. But I get as much enjoyment from clearing a room full of mobs as I do from killing one boss. Honestly, my favorite boss fight to solo is Mai Trin.
I can’t suspend my disbelief enough to take that seriously.
Not my problem. Eye of the tiger yo
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Woah, other players that support not skipping on the forums? ^(T-T)^ This is indeed a beautiful day for the Motherland!
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Reward is also subjective just saying.
Are you saying that someone prefers mob loot above the dungeon reward or champion bags? By the time you kill all mobs, you can farm a lot of champ bags at SW. The reward is much much better.
It’s not all about the loot mang. Although I did get a nice exotic shield skin from a mob in fractals last night, only good drop.
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but when will the skipping crowd accept that being able to destroy every enemy in the path quickly requires skill and that enjoying combat in a combat based game is not kittened in the head?
We enjoy combat in the game. Boss combat. Bosses have tells and mechanics and don’t die to one auto attack. Fighting trash mobs doesn’t require reacting to tells or dodging. That isn’t a good example of the GW2 combat system. When they fix Lupicus, I suggest you learn to solo him. Once you’ve done an off the wall lupicus solo you can lecture us on what is more fun.
So can I lecture you now? I love boss fights, and I love solo’ing bosses. But I get as much enjoyment from clearing a room full of mobs as I do from killing one boss. Honestly, my favorite boss fight to solo is Mai Trin.
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So a meta ele, the glassiest of the glass failed because your team wiped so much that people kept ragequiting over and over? That’s surprising.
Are you sure he thanked you in a genuine way and not just the complimentary “ty” people say at the end of the run?
The best part of it was that he said thank you in a private message. He told me that he didn’t know dungeons could be done that way. I felt all warm n fuzzy. Kitten.
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When players are reasonable about having a different opinion, I am ok. I was in a party last night and something amazing happened. An ele in my party wanted to just skip everything and stack. To my amazement when his plan failed over and over and many pugs had come and gone, we got to try my way. I really, really tried to make his way work. We stomped through that place like donkey kong on roids. Here’s where it got crazy and he did something I have never had skippers do when they fall flat on their face…he said thank you! I am being very serious when I say in all the time I’ve been playing, that has never happened. I get that you guys don’t agree with me, in fact some of you get downright kitten. But to only have one skipper try your way and actually say thank you when it works would make you a bit kitten like me. The feeling of being above 10kAP and having some pug with >2kAP, meta build, skip, stack, #yolopuglife, say I don’t know how to play while he lays on the dirt dead and I solo the bosses of CoE only to quietly go and rez him afterwards. I have accepted that some players enjoy skipping (cringe), but when will the skipping crowd accept that being able to destroy every enemy in the path quickly requires skill and that enjoying combat in a combat based game is not kittened in the head?
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First, as someone who plays for a month or two, then takes a break, then comes back…etc, I have noticed that very little seems to be “fixed” between those times. In dungeons, the “meta” is still to bug out, exploit, and overall abuse the system. It’s been the same since day 1. A week ago, I offered my AC group 5g each if they could beat Kholer without stacking. They, all 80’s in exotic/ascended gear who claimed to have run the dungeon a million times, all died on the first big wind-up. I tried my best to help them, to no avail. I was rezing the entire time. This is how long after release, and Anet still has a system where their players still can’t beat the first boss? This right here, dampens my spirits for HoT. They simply can’t design a dungeon that isn’t exploitable and it’s ruined the “dungeon” portion for me.
This. My jimmies get so rustled when people demand the party stack and claim that you don’t know how to play if you can’t stack/skip. My vote would be to only give the extra 20 tokens from killing the mobs groups normally skip and a surprise AOE right where players usually stack.
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Which is actually exactly what I do with movies I’ve seen a bunch of times. I absolutely love V for Vendetta but I rarely feel like watching the whole movie again. I like bits and pieces to watch if I’m eating or doing something else. Same with any movie I like but have watched many times!
Actually a great analogy haha.
We just differ there, which is fine. I LOVE that movie, but I will watch every second and even recite it. I guess it comes down to patience and preference.
I should specify that I have watched V for Vendetta more times than I will ever be able to count. Grandma’s Boy is another.
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Which is actually exactly what I do with movies I’ve seen a bunch of times. I absolutely love V for Vendetta but I rarely feel like watching the whole movie again. I like bits and pieces to watch if I’m eating or doing something else. Same with any movie I like but have watched many times!
Actually a great analogy haha.
We just differ there, which is fine. I LOVE that movie, but I will watch every second and even recite it. I guess it comes down to patience and preference.
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Try playing on the mac “client”.
It’s a joy when it doesn’t crash haha
I may be alone here, but it runs pretty well on my Mac laptop. It’s from 2011 and not really meant for gaming. I don’t get great frames (10-20) but I have little to no issues with DC’s
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To me skipping feels like going to a movie theater and asking to just see the last ten minutes and chugging your drink. The reason for all the threads is to poll the forum community and watch for changing feelings towards the matter. Avoiding fights and content is now viewed as skillful. Play how you want but at least read LFG postings. I get frustrated when I’m in a party and they all die because they wanted to skip over a mob. We then try over and over to skip instead of simply killing them. I love when Anet makes small changes to dungeons that reward not skipping, example is the bridge area of CoF. Now when you complete that bonus event you clear a safer area to stand while the targets respawn. Question: What makes a more skilled craftsman, completing tasks including small ones or only doing ones required and skipping over little things?
P.S. This put a funny image in my head of Bruce Lee saying don’t skip leg day. lol
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Different skills would make sense if and only if it doesn’t require an entirely different gear set to be effective. In other words, if I’m using a power trait set and gear, my underwater skills shouldn’t switch to something based on condition damage. Right now it’s a crap shoot whether or not your gear and underwater skills line up at all.
Yeah there’d still need to be enough skills so that you can have a set of power skills, for example (I mean, you configure the bar yourself).
Likewise for weapons, need a power and a condi weapon in the current setup, which for Mesmer works out fine.
As for the drowning mechanic you propose, I am 100% against that. It would basically be instant death in places like Frostgorge Sound, and it’s way too gimmicky. There’s no reason to have it be any different than how it is on land. Anyway, it makes no sense that my crappy masterwork graveborn breather would stop working just because I got knocked out.
Understandable, though I like it for atmospheric purposes. I mean it’d be a very unlikely change anyhow as it’s too late in the game for it. And probably for underwater as a whole, especially after they removed it from WvW .
Yup, it just feels like underwater skills are too much of an afterthought at this point. And let me summon my elementals down there! Make the fire elemental boil the water around it for effect or something. I know it isn’t a weight issue, because my guardian swims around in thick plate armor like he’s a freaking dolphin.
As for drowning, I just can’t do it, not since playing the chemical plant in Sonic 2 as a kid. I actually love scuba in real life but just thinking about that drowning music is giving me heart palpitations! I am a wimp. Best part about being underwater in GW2 is being able to survive no matter how far down I go.
AWWWWWW YEAH Sonic chemical plant was crazy!
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YUS, although I may use it too much in dungeons.
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I am, just like you, making a decision to spend time here posting. How you spend that time is all up to you. I am not mad at you or anyone for pulling my attention here or “wasting” my time because I already chose to do so.
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I will usually see between 40-80 fps just wandering around and doing events. World bosses take me down to 12-ish. I do have a nice gaming computer and fast internet. My brother gets 120 fps almost all the time on a beautiful monitor the size of my dreams.
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Maybe you should have been clearer? Maybe? Really, you’re going with only a maybe?
How about this. If all you actually want to do is waste my time? If all you want to do is be vague so you can then move the goalpost because all you want to do is throw all the examples out? Then don’t even bother asking the question.
Let’s try and keep rational and remember that we are all wasting time by posting on a gaming forum.
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Let’s just calm down everyone. At the end of the day it’s just video games.
This. What we see here is what happens when people feel entitled to something meant to be just fun. I suggest people re-evaluate their priorities.
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Guys, maybe I am pointing out the obvious here. SAB comes around in April usually and right before they bring it out they release minis and small hints. You guys should go to the page that introduces the flying quaggan mail service and scroll all the way down and read. That is all.
well mr clever man, first of all you’re pointing out nothing because we know about sab minis in BLC and I personally consider it a horrible joke from arena net
second, sab was opened 2 times only, once in april, second in september so plz tell me how did you get you “obvious” and “usual” date for sab to be april?
I really want to know what’s the reasoning behind your post and why are you spreading misinformation, especially you didnt care to read our posts but came here lecturing us about minis we already discussed accusing us of not reading news.
The problem right now is that if they do release it now, it will just look like they buckled under all the rage. Which basically makes it look like if someone rages enough, ArenaNet will add it in.
Which might very well open the floodgates with people raging about Mounts, Duels, Raids, Trinity, VIP and so on.
If you don’t care about your content as a customer why do you care to come here and spread misinformation and devaluate others opinions? Or you’re not a customer but somehow you didn’t get a red mark for your posts. Your activity on these forums is highly suspicious. You don’t compliment arena net or a game, you just attack personally other posters for stating their opinions and try to make them look bad or unimportant.
Well sorry for “lecturing” you. An honest mistake is no reason to verbally attack someone.
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Guys, maybe I am pointing out the obvious here. SAB comes around in April usually and right before they bring it out they release minis and small hints. You guys should go to the page that introduces the flying quaggan mail service and scroll all the way down and read. That is all.
I don’t get it.
Just above that, they mention bring the minis back to the BLTC. Some will say this is a tease, but it happened the last time they brought it back, which was also around this time of year.
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Guys, maybe I am pointing out the obvious here. SAB comes around in April usually and right before they bring it out they release minis and small hints. You guys should go to the page that introduces the flying quaggan mail service and scroll all the way down and read. That is all.
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I guess a big point to my question is: Why take this game so seriously? You are playing a video game, it should be relaxing. People seem to treat this like a job, not as a fun activity.
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I main a thief, way fun. So getting the end reward faster so you can what? Skip the next fight? Why get better gear and cooler looking skins just to skip over stuff? I’ve been in two parties that have gotten precursors from mobs that most skip.
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Both sides have their reasons but I want good solid points as to why so many people love to skip content in dungeons. I love the combat in GW2, so I enjoy fighting mobs of things and taking big groups head-on. I also dislike when a party wipes and has to run back from the beginning re-skipping all those enemies again. I have also noticed many of the same people that advocate skipping complain about not getting a precursor. Thoughts?
P.S. I know there are guilds built around not skipping and in LFG you can add “not Skipping” but let’s face it, people don’t read.
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I feel like pointing out that these new maps are a throw back to maps of GW1. Gaining ascension in the Crystal Desert and saving chosen both took place in maps much like these new ones. I know it might not feel like a diverse mountainous region like some but I feel like they are following the same vein they did back in the GW1 days.
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What kind of raid do you guys think will come, if at all? Fight Sylvari, Mordrem, both?
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any news at all about using skills while gliding? This would change things on a new level. Even if I could only fire off a few skills with a staff or scepter, at least I could enter the fight like a kitten.
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Yes. I can agree that after I have spent thousands of hours in a chair and taking in all that they have made, a thank you is in order. I’ve met friends online and reconnected with old ones. I spend time online with my fiance and we both feel like we are on a grand adventure together. I have good memories thanks to Anet which is more than I can say about some.
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I gave them money for a good product. I’ve paid for bad games before but regret nothing. I paid for something and I didn’t like it, oh well. I love what Anet has given me so much that I even buy gems every once in a blue moon. *gasp
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Is it bad that I use the FoV slider the zoom in and spy on players?
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I can imagine the first time I look down to see a fight in progress, or slamming into a tree and falling to my death.
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I hope I am wrong here, but you just seem like a self-righteous prude that only enjoys something when it fits perfectly into your ideals.
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I am, like many of you, a screenshot enthusiast. With the new camera changes, what things are you looking to capture? Do you think gliding will be practical in first person?
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As a non-MMO example: How many DLC’s are there for the Assassin’s Creed franchise? Or for Call of Duty?
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Whether or not you enjoy the free content does nothing to change the fact that they are trying to give you something. Of course they are a business with a plan to make money. This is obvious when you go on the gem store. When I play a game like Rift or Firefall it’s hard to get anywhere without spending actual money. So many of these other companies feel greedy. Not to mention Anet gives us content that most others would charge for besides Living Story. The overall quality of the game matched with the amount of free content makes me very grateful I play GW2.
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