Guild Wars 2

Got no reward for verdant brink 100% map completion. Hope I don’t have to open support ticket

Basically F2P players get fewer character slots (so 2 of them are free, instead of 5), they get only 3 bag spaces instead 5, and have somwhat limited chat, mail and TP funcionality.

On the other hand, every bit o content up untill HoT is available to them, they can finish all of the content, do PvP and WvW eventually, with chat being unlocked, do dungeons, fractals, farm tokens, get BIS gear…

If you wish complete game, kitten buy it, not like you’re missing THAT much.

Imagine they could send emails and every1 used 50 F2P account to farm black lion keys and just avoided the recent limitation.

Granted, it does not prevent bots from farming mats/gold, but what are they gonna do with it? They can’t mail it to any1… also they can’t spam/whisper people with “selling gold” messages.

-SAB
-return of season one in journal form with instanced events like season two
-return of other events like SAB, dragon bash, queen’s jubilee… that had the chance of becomming an anual thing
-relatively good season 3 in journal form like season 2
-SAB and return of other events like SAB, dragon bash, queen’s jubilee… that had the chance of becomming an anual thing – did I mention getting SAB back?
-polymock
- please give us SAB, return of other events like SAB, dragon bash, queen’s jubilee… that had the chance of becomming an anual thing – did I mention I really wish SAB to return in unchanged form with addition of wolrd3 (but really, world 1 and 2 please at least)

They already call us “vocal minority” as oposed to “many players”, implying that only a few people really enjoyed it, most farmed it cause skins and profit.
I’m not sure if that is the case or not. apparently “W2 sucked” and has to be reworked (I dissagree heavilly on this argument), so ANET can’t just push a button and release it.

TBH, as much as I hate those arguments and dissagree with them, I excepted that people think that was, as much as we think it must have been reintroduced to the game already. BUT, all that was fine untill this April cam, SAB minies got introduced to BLC, indicating sth about SAB is going to happen, and we get screwed.

Again, I can forgive this to ANET, maybee they are just testing to see if we are indeed a vocal minority, or really a considerable bunch of players, but since we were kinda loud again, I do expect to see a SAB release THIS year after this teaser. This is otherwise just rubbing some salt on the open wound.

A stale permanent SAB is WAAAAY better than no SAB at all.
Most of us don’t even want the skins back, we just want to play the kittening content that is already made.
SAB was, and i hope will be one day, one of the BEST contents this game has put out by far. I’m not saying it’s better than the main game, cause that would be stupid, but, from the living story patches and themed events like dragon bash or haloween, the SAB is by far the best one.
What they did here is start a SAB which was supposed to have 4 worlds and be a permanent addition to the main game once all 4 are introduced, they even made a small story around it that goes from SAB to “real world”, if only for a moment, it looked like they were gonna build more than just 2 worlds, sole IIC for 600 gems as previously mentioned, and then one day decided to scrap it.
all this talk about pulling resources from HoT or any other content is bullkitten. As before, not every employee of Anet is working on any piece of content that is gonna be introduced. While probably half ARE working on HoT, the remainder was here to complete LS2 and whatnot.
That means that there are resources that can be put towards finishing SAB, or at least push tha button that would reintroduce it to the game with the last state it was and not even give back the skins and/or gem items. Most of us would be happy just to replay the first 2 worlds as they were and not have any more content added for a while.
As it is now, we sit on bubbles and bubble-bubbles and ICC in our banks/inventories, dreaming of a day they would give us back the game and let us enjoy the content once more.
I do understand that they aren’t rerunning S1 of LS (even though i call it bullkitten also, but let’s not get into that now), since it has an open world impact, but SAB, apart from some server space, has no impact on the game whatsoever, except people would be in it, instead in open world or WvW or PvP, or whatnot.

Why are you having this discussion AT ALL?

First of all, we have Sylvari player characters. That alone proves not all of them are now Mordremoth allies, cause, as far as I know, there is no open world PvP planned and I don’t see how I would lose my characters, even for a while, to a fact that sylvari are now somehow only Mordremoths allies, and under his influence.
Second, as far as I know, there are still sylvari fighting against Mordremoth in the trailer, which would suggest not all of them are under his influence.
Third, I mean it would just be plain ridiculous. It’s a playable race.

Sylvari fighting sylvari – it’s the only proof you need they aren’t all under Mordremoth influence.

About the second sylvari tree? We already know there is at least one. There could be more. Are they all under Mordrem. influence? We shall see.

To be completely honest, they DID give us FotM as well in a years time… The dungeon path you say they added ment one of the previous paths got removed for some reason I don’t fully understand. Most of the other stuff added to the game was quickly removed and that’s the problem most of the people I know has with this game. ANET is spending so much time to give us content they will remove in a month or even 2 weeks, and that will have no real effect on most of the people that don’t rly spend whole day playing. There is a HUGE part of GW2 community that remember GW as a casual game where max level, constant grind etc weren’t an issue, and ANET promised us the same in GW2. All they are giving us is constant farm, with constant story changes that make no sense unless you’re here all the time (even then they don’t rly make sense tbh), and are removed shortly after they give them to us.
So much of the map is not explored, and instead of giving new parts of it they constantly add sth or change parts of the existing maps.
What i enjoyed most in GW was exploring, and they would give me whole new continents to explore… now they give us a new PoI I have to get to return to 100% map completion, and some content with random achievements so they force me to do it. They even started doing metas where you can’t finish meta in a day, but actually have to finish 4-5 dailyes so you can’t be done in a day…
That’s not how I remember GW, and the second I know for sure that there will be absolutely no expansion, I’m leaving the game, never to return.

Tbh so many people i know have already left the game, myself included, cause lack of proper endgame. I came back to see the living story, was only happy with what they did to tequatl. I don’t buy this “2 week to a month” type of content that only forces you to do things “now or never”.
Expansion would be cool, repairing what is broken first (like that terrible zhaitan fight!!!!!!) would also work. At least they gave us a big farm (ascended weapons, soon armor) so we have a feeling like there IS an endgame and sth to work on… same as endless achievement point farm for rewards…
A full paid expansion COULD be a relic from some past times, but no matter what you guys say, living story is bullkitten… just a filler for lack of proper content… Even this years halloween feels kinda lacking compared to last years…. I expected, if there wouldn’t be a mad kin’s dungeon and scavenger hunt (tbh i hoped for scavenger hunt that would improve the book to ascended level), that at least the replacing content would be the same quality or better, not 10 times worse. They couldn’t even work on that… Recycled content that was somwhat cut compared to last years is all I can say.
Hope they turn it around and give us sth worth mentioning… In a year, all I can see is a few more activities and a lame karka island. Most of the players thinking of returning to the game see the same.
Oh, yeah, player base may still be growing, they do a nice work with advertising and improving the game you can buy now (you get a gem store armor and whatnot), but only cause more people are buying the game and since there is no subscription, nobody is rly leaving it, although they don’t play atm. But at one point that will stop.
Give us sth decent… Or I will be one more of the people “not playing the game no more”.
Thank you for reading.

Guys you do realize warrior isn’t even close to being a TOP pvp class? hammer or no hammer? And hammer warrior’s weakness is that stupid thing called stability? which every1 has kinda…
And no… warrior can’t clear conditions all that fast as you make it sound, bombard us with conditions that slow, blind or confuse us and we’re basically easy targets. I’m not saying we’re powerless, but still, you guys just cry 2 much.
And your arguments that we can clear conditions, be invincible, have tons of toughness and vitality, 100% crit, perma stun ability, high dps etc. all at the same time is bullkitten as well.There are balanced kinda builds, but most of them are always lacking on sth. Either dps or def or mobility.
Hammer/longbow is a nice combo, but it’s not godlike… doesn’t offer THAT much mobility etc… if you chose any other with 2 melee sets then you’re kittened by any class that can go range and kite well.
Why does no1 mention like thief as OP class? confusions, blinds etc, even if you manage to get them low, they stealth, run, heal up to full in 5 sec and come back with almost full initiative while you’re still strugling to get ooc or heal up? How is that not OP. Or mesmer with gazillion illus and mobility that can make your head spin. Or spirit ranger? or some bunker classes, like engie comes to mind… easily holding any cap point against 2-3 targets forever basically…
I could go on and on, but no, take hammer away from warrior so he can than play with…. HB? Skill every1 said was soooo OP untill they figured they could easily step away from it.

Most of you make absolutely no sense… The only thing hammer warrior has is stun/knockdown – hammer warriors weakness? Stability. Or in case you’re a thief, you can blind me FOREVER.
Hammer warrior is VERY slow, most of his attacks can be easily dodged.
A dude say “only stability ranger has is 20 seconds elite stability” – 20 seconds stability against a warrior who can’t touch you during those 20 seconds is endless, yeah. At least i can kite some of the other classes until they lose theirs.
Most of the problems in this game aren’t caused by things not being balanced, aka game itself… most of them are caused by whiners. People who are usually mediocre or plainly bad players, can’t find a solution to som1 else build and then they cry on forums.
Like i know i can’t win against perplexity thief. I can’t win against dual dagger one if he knows how to blind as well… Against a good thief, I can do nothing. Some other classes as well, but I don’t cry about it. It makes me very happy when they make a mistake, leave an opening for myself, and sometimes i hit hard, sometimes I even win. If I can I try to move away/kite, maybe look for a friend on the battlefield to help me against them.
Hammer warrior is the biggest issue in this game?! WTF!?

VomitSpit.6843:

Oh god, Burnfall has moved on to you warriors. Be careful, this guy is a feisty one. xD
Btw, he is a ranger. :O

OK, let me guess, ranger with almost endless stability cries about hammer? WTF can hammer warrior do to a ranger?!

The only thing anet needs to handle is gift of exploration being the limiting factor in crafting multiple legendaries, like i don’t rly wanna do it on more than one character…. Karma is actually easier to get and while farming materials/gold you should be getting more than enough for your legendary.
People cry about mystic clovers, but they are actually a nice way of making money/materials, so even if you fail to get them, you will get loads of t6, lodestones and simply a return of part of the invested materials.
If they would only make precursors craftable…. But, by doing so they are removing a huge gold drain… Like if you can craft a precursor easily, what would make you wanna toss more rare items into a MF? They would either have to make it very time consuming, expensive or sth very destimulating, cause otherwise they are messing with sth that has actually been keeping the economy in check. On the other side not making precursor craftable is kinda stupid… RNG is a kitten, and my guildie got 4 precursors, 3 of them from MF, all of them worth more than 500-600g at a time… He got all 4 of them within a month (he was only playing for like 4 months total) and then stopped playing after crafting 2 legendaries… I got 3, 2 of them from MF, 1 as a drop, torch, dusk and hammer – tbh nice, but i am playing since game started and have been tossing every rare weapon i got into MF – and 1 of the precursors (dusk) was an invasion drop, so MF wasn’t rly good to me… And then there are like 10 of my friends who never gotten any, some of them played since game came online.

In short… scavenger hunt must come soon…. better give us a bad hunt that will destroy sth, then patch it later, than leave things as they are and make us farm for certain legendaries for a few months…. what 1 person said, farming for 2-3 months or more to get the gold, then give it to a person who tossed 4 random rares into MF and gotten lucky is kinda stupid, also destimulating and on the other note, not rly necessary in a good game… rng sucks, and there is enough of RNG in mystic clovers.

The thing is, when game came out, there was no end game…. there still isn’t much, but ok, with all the achievements (daily, including WvW and PvP), daily chest events, living story, dungeons and fotm runs…. let’s say there is some end game… so I would say making it hard to get a precursor, even making it RNG was ok. People wasted time farming materials, crafting weapons and using them in MF, or simply stacking rares and doing same…
But now, after a year of game being here, adition of fotm and ascended kitten, with almost every1 who played from start having a legendary, some even more than one, it’+s pointless… Give us more end game, give us an expansion…. Having legendary crafting/farming/grinding as the only form of endgame is not necessary any more.

Erm…. so as long as only like 5-10% of the players have issues with this game it’s ok if ANET doesn’t fix it?
Whoever uses this argument, I wish sth happens with characters you play and ANET doesn’t fix them EVER. How can you be such kittens? You all should request ANET to fix EVERY issue, not only the ones that affect majority of people. When Collin says “we have no intention of adding&+/fixing sth cause our statistics says there are only 15% of the players that use that race/class” there should be a bunch of "BOOOOO"s from the audience, not bunch of head nods in a sign of approval.

OK, again i see many of the “pro and contra” stuff being said here. I will try and explain now, yet again, why living story content is not good for the game, specially in this paste.

Imagine a recording device of any sort has never been invented and you only get to watch the live shows on TV. There is this AWSOME series, let’s call it “Living story” and it has awsome plot, characters, the only problem is there never a rerun (except the one on the same week it has been shown) and it goes live every day at 18:00 CET.

Now, some of us are working late, some are in school/uni whatever, some go on vacation and can’t watch TV etc…

Now, this story is awsome in a way that there are actually several different plots that sometimes intertwine, sometimes they have a “special show” that’s not connected with any other previous or future show, they have a bunch of nice stuff.

Still, you know, if you miss out on 10 episodes for this or that reason you kinda have to feel you don’t rly understand what is going on now. Who are this new actors? What is this new plot? Where the kitten is that actress I so love to watch so much?

If there are no reruns… I may stop watching completely cause there is no point… this will keep on happening and I don’t wanna talk to friends every time so they can explain what I have missed out on.

Some of you argue that there is more people playing the game now than at the start and that population is still growing. But that is the result of still ongoing hipe and advertisement. People are slowly but surely leaving the game. WE have had many people leaving in a huge wave when WvW community felt like their time here is over cause nothing is being done in WvW or sPvP. Out of 7 friends that started playing the game together from the start I am the only one left still playing. One other thing, this is a “no subscription game” so account, once bought, stays the person playing the game" forever – always counted. So no…. there aren’t more people playing now, at lest not necessarely… just more sold copies than there were before

Everything the author said is spot on. He said most of what i’m saying in a very “easy to read and understand” way… btw thank you for the achievement.

Some of you say “ascended gear isn’t necessary” – but it is… If you don’t have it now, would be the same if you ran around with rare gear for the previous year instead exotic. It’s basically the same difference.

I agree completely – a no grind game turned into a pure grind this grind that game. You need ascended kitten and you have to grind for it, specially weapons (unless you get very lucky with drops and get the exact stats you need very often as a drop). You need dailyes/monthy for laurels, you need guild missions for commendations, you need fractals for rings and back piece, or you can farm sth else, but in larger quantities. Like if you want to make your ascended backpiece you can always grind kittenloads of t6 and whatnot, or money to buy them.
Then you need to grind daily events even after you finished the daily, but not really, but if you don’t you will take way more time to reach certain tresholds that hold the AP rewards, and you can NEVER get the AP you missed back. It could have been avoided by making 5 AP per day from dailies the maximum.
Also living story forces you to do achievements NOW or NEVER, which is exactly what Proxy said and I agree completely, not to mention I hold them responsible for us still not having expansions, upgrades to current game (except southsun, but that island just sucks anyways, it looks like it was forced out cause they felt they have to give us sth) or fixes to the broken stuff like before mentioned zhaitan fight.

Everything he said was completely true. Every promise they gave us has been broken. We started as a no-grind game, turned into a must-grind game. Free to play with many expansions that would be 6 months to a year apart turned into a fiasco of a living story that is mostly uninteresting with few exceptions, but the biggest problem, offers only limited time content, with, again, few exceptions. And because that has to be done immediately as it arrives or never.

Anet say it’s a chore they have put in front of them selves because us, but now it seems they have made a bad cause it wasn’t ready or they had no real idea so they just gave us sth they quickly made to fill a norm. On the other side it also means a lot of their time goes on living story when it should have been spent on giving us new maps and continent AKA horizontal progressions, which is what they promised in the first place. So a promise of nearly any vertical and much of horizontal progression turned into much of vertical and only limited horizontal progression with players taking a break mission out on much they will never get to see, and will hardly understand what’s going on at the time they joined us again.

I will only say a couple of things – only Anet and NCSOFT know what they have negotiated and it’s a professional secret and as such will never be known to us.

I do hope they give us an expansion soon(ish) cause living story is bullkitten. 90% of the people I know only do it for 2 reasons – 1 being that if you miss out on it you will NEVER be able to do it again, and 2 being that there is usually some way of making extra money by getting a lucky rare skin/mini drop or certain not-so-time consuming farm that will possibly shorten the amount of time you would usually have to spend on getting a precursor or sth they wanna get.
Most of them find the scarlet invasion stupid and not rly a good part of the game (like how did you manage to add robots with star wars kinda “laser sounds” a part of this game?! last time i checked this was GW2, not SWOTR), and only find some of the patches interesting. Like some find SAB interesting like me, and absolutely love it, some hate it and like stuff like molten alliance dungeon or sth.
What we all agree on is that living story is there only as an excuse to not give us the expansion, that it’s a farm that we don’t wanna miss out on for achievement points reasons, but are also tired of having to farm sth new every 2 weeks cause if we skip on it there is no going back.
WE all want/need more permanent content. I will start saying I instead WE as to not sound like i’m a spoksman for some large group, i’m kinda saying what me and few of my friends and guildies are talking about usually.
In a year we have been given 1 extra island – southsun cove, withought any decent content. Nobody ever goes there except to farm blood or karka shells, and every now and then when people grow bored of it and take some villages we get karka queen – map gets filled for 7-10 minutes, then it’s empty again. Sorry, almost forgot about karka rush or guild challenge.

If this was guild wars 1 there would be a rumor of a factions expansion, 2 new professions, and a whole new continent to explore, with kittenloads of new skills, some new mechanics etc.

I find living story kinda ok, but also a fail cause it is making our chances of getting a full expansion lower and lower. When do you see us getting chanta or elona or some other continent? WE didn’t even get like 40% of Tyria that is still not accessible, and they gave us only 1 small map, very uninteresting and unimportant, in a whole year. By this rate we’re gonna have grandchildren by the time some expansion is ready.

I welcome the changes like new tequatl fight etc, but I wanna see new dragons before I grow to old for gaming. Last year when you said there are 5 elder dragons and we only get to fight 1 I said AWSOME, we gonna get like 2 dragons per year with kittenloads of new content and when we kill all of them we gonna be moving to chanta and elona and fix some kitten there as well. Instead we’re still stuck on 1 lame elder dragon fight that’s very unimpressive, specially after the new teq fight (come on, shooting dragon clinging from a tower for 5 minutes… it’s horrible) and 2 smaller dragon champions. And it took you 5 months to introduce us some characters that are gonna form a new dragon slaying party at one point? When? summer next year we go for jormag? and then by 2020 we gonna get to them all? 2030 we go back to chanta and elona… maybe?

I only know i won’t be spending 1 more year of doing the same dungeons and fotm. Living story kinda took a lot of time from me, and at times I have a feeling I don’t have a lot of time for “normal” gw2.

I don’t wanna actually read all of the posts above, but here’s a few things to Anet AND the original poster:

This weapon is legendary, and as such cannot be crafted. Most of you are VERY MISTAKEN when you say you craft it. It is a gift from Zomorros. Everything you get from Mystic Forge is a gift. The name might be a bit misleading, but have you ever seen a hammer and anvil near it? Did you see some other tools? No, cause there aren’t any. It’s only a mystic place with Zomorros sitting in there, receiving stuff from you and giving you stuff in return. Sometimes you’re gambling and he gives you what he feels is fair at that moment, sometimes you’re getting stuff by the specific recipe. So when you’re getting the legendary weapon you’re actually giving Zomorros a certain precursor (so he knows what weapon to give back to you) and 3 gifts proving you’re worthy of receiving the gift of a legendary weapon from him.

Only 2 problems I have with this is we’re now certainly missing a precursor scavanger hunt (or whatever you wanna call it) – a 100% way of obtaining the wanted precursor. Prices are skyrocketing doe to bullkitten stuff like champion farm, invasions, queens gauntlet champion farm abuse with full gambits etc. Every time there is an event like this bunch of people find a way to abuse it, get kittenloads of gold from it (like queens gauntlet you could easily get like 200g per day if not more), then it gets nerfed when majority of people learns of it (ofc us that are playing the game and not only trying to find some way to abuse sth for income are always kittened by abusers not getting punished -it’s like was the ban of players buying the rares for 21 karma at game release rly necessary if you’re going to allow people to exploit every part of the living story, but only up to a point where like more than 5% of the people learns of it?)… To make story short there are always hundreds and possibly thousands of people that exploit certain parts of the game, or simply have 2 much free time they spend grinding, that then push the prices of everything up. To stop it you have to tie the price of precursor to certain materials. Preferably account bound like mithrilium – also has a 24h cooldown so can’t rly be abused. Then you will have easily obtainable precursor, that will also take time and some farming to get.

I wouldn’t go as far as to say getting 77 mystic clovers is hard. You can do that in 2-3 weeks withought any special farming, do some daily chest events, salvage ectos and craft them. Karma is easy to farm atm, so are skill point and whatever is neccessary. Do the 10 recipe and you will get kittenloads of t6 and lodestones possibly by doing so. That recipe is also there to help you get mats for legendary, i don’t know why so many people complain about it.

The other problem I see is the map completion part. Ofc, you HAVE to do it once, but it’s kittened, for people like myself, who wanna do more than 2 legendaries, to be forced to repeat map completion. It made sense up until a point ANET decided to make legendary weapons tradeable. What is the point of forcing me do a map completion multiple times when you’re allowing some kid to take out dad’s credit card and simply buy the legendary off of tp. Make gift of exploration like you have made achievement point reward skins. Once you unlock it you can take as many as you need. End of story.

So, precursor scavenger hunt and change way you get gift of exploration once you have finished map completion.

Not sure what you people don’t understand – there will be NO MORE +MF (and as far as i know +gold find) gear IN THE GAME. So there won’t be players who just “keep their MF gear” cause it’s being removed. All existing MF gear will disappear.

The only question is the means by which they will be gone. Will we get our dungeon tokens, mats, laurels back or will it be swapped to a stat combo of our choosing, some new one or random. Personally i think swapping stat combo in any way is stupid cause I already have every set of gear I planned to use on characters i do have MF gear so an extra stat combo set of gear is useless to me unless it will be sellable (not soulbound).

The other thing i’m worried about is a rumor +gold find is being removed also and that brings me to a question – wtf am I gonna do with utility slot ascended amulets I bought since that slot is now useless (come on, +exp is useless since the champion farm with +SP scrolls started, gold since cof 1 is nerfed even if they keep it in game, and +karma? sorry, but noty).

For making support buttons.

The thing is Evon is a kitten. All he ever does was only in HIS sole interest, and he will remain doing stuff the same way. Kiel does many things for others, and is in general people protector. I don’t thin she is hiding or anything, nor is she a coward. She is using adventurers to do her work cause if NPCes would do stuff alone this would be a movie, not an MMO.
Saying Evon would do a better job at anything other than filling his own pockets is very misplaced , I don’t believe ANYONE would be that naive. You COULD say “Fall of Abbadon” is more interesting than blowing up Metrica provinance reactor, but none of us knows it until we see either of them and I am basing my decision on who to vote for by who is doing, or at lest trying to do, better for LA – and that is clearly Kiel. Anything she fails to do is again sth that moves the story forward, withougth her failing sometimes we would have no jobs in this game. Evon on the other hand will move the story in a bad direction if you ask me. Having BL keys or WP discount is rly of no importance, it lasts for only 4 weeks, what will be a permanent change to the game is who we elect in council and who will drive the story forward.

And lastly, voting Evon is like voting Joffery from GoT to the throne – willingly putting a bad person in position of power – think if you want some1 like that in power.

Please change this achievement to something else, this isn’t doable. Sooo many people running around like headless chicken, never grouping up, or chasing on foot. If you dash, they do it behind you avoiding big karkas anyways, and even if they didn’t many of them are on the sides or running in random direction and it is almost impossible to achieve.

The only way I’ve seen / heard of people achieving this is if they come to some sort of agreement and help each other do it, in other words stage it.

I have almost every achievement (except karka queen which i killed, it seems to be bugged, and that last story mission achievement that’s still not implemented) and this one will be a problem. This game ain’t so good that i would wanna keep playing it for hours hoping i will get lucky with only 2 people entering arena and big karka runs over them and i have the crab at precise that moment… Cause 3 or more people inside it’s almost impossible.

OMG what a discussion… wanna nerf it? Make it so that mobs who do spawn don’t drop any loot like melandru pre event spiders. Case closed.
Why do you think no1 would do lyssa if not for farmers? We do it all the time for daily chest and possibility of nice rewards in lyssa chest.
If you wanna farm I have nothing against it, but flaming people that want to play the game as it is intended is not cool. You’re abusing the pre event, do it while you can, don’t flame the people playing it as it is intended.

And to answer one more question that seems to be all over the place: why do you guys hate us, why don’t you want us to be able to farm. And the answer is simple enough – inflation.
The cheapest t6 by far is ancient bone, exactly cause this farms. The cheapest lodestone by far is molten lodestone exactly cause CoF P1 farm… not to mention core is worthless.
You’re making loads of certain type of material – you flood the market with it, it become worthless. What Anet is doing wrong, and they claim economy in game is number one concern and priority, is thakitten doesn’t do anything about the economy.
Why is corrupted lodestone so expensive? Every1 wants it, and there isn’t a single farm good enough that is associated with it. So my point would be either stop nerfing farms and make other dungeons/farm locations more desireable for farming, or nerf the ones being exploited like this the same way you did to other farming areas, dungeons like AC, plinx etc.

The thing with this kind of situations is every1 expects a dev to come online and say what the issue is and how long will it be till they fix it. But have you people rly thought about that request? WTF is dev supposed to say?
“We have absolutely no kittening idea what the problem is and until we figure it out we can’t find a fix”?
Cause I am sure if it was sth simple and they knew exactly what it was they would have fixed it by now.

I for one was camping the trade post with some money invested. I have no idea when the game will be online and how much will I lose if I’m not there when it gets online. Still, i know it can’t be helped. So what am I supposed to do now, scream at Anet, demand my money back? I knew the risk.

It’s a game and you do it for fun. If you can’t play it for whatever reason find sth else to do or, at this hour, if you’re from EU go to sleep. Whatever you were doing in game can wait.

And when devs figure out what the problem was you will be able to play it once again. Be it this evening or tomorrow.

Ah, well, i guess they aren’t doing it on purpose
Apparently they are negotiating with hamsters in server room, but it seems hamsters aren’t cooperating still and Anet won’t give in to demands.
We shall, hopefully, soon see the end of this crisis.

According to http://gw2status.com/ after only 1 auth server being down, they are ALL down now. I guess they are resetting them and when it comes back online in a few minutes we should be able to play again.

OK guys so game has issues atm. Nobody’s account became trial account nor will there be any permanent damage.
Like you guys i will try relog every few seconds, i guess that’s not gonna help auth. servers come back online

They have a team ready for this, only question is how long will it take them to fix this. I’m just glad it’s server side error.

They have a team ready for this, only question is how long will it take them to fix this. I’m just glad it’s server side error.

Any1 having login issues atm? I can barely use the forum, can’t login to game and as far as I can see, all of the login (auth) servers are online atm.

What i do at king toad is jump down, hit amulet, avoid whatever comes now, pick up chunk and watch his moves. You have to avoid everything with chunk in hands untill that “look left, look right, open mouth” move that you have to toss that chunk in and prevent the tongue attack, while being able to hit him. If you don’t toss the chunk into his opened mouth, the tongue attack WILL happen and you WILL take dmg. I am well aware of it, i just have a feeling sometimes I should be able to make a chunk and I am not.

Still wonder about auto attack option to be remembered (although today it seemed like sometimes it is remembered while moving from zone to zone – not sure if i remember correctly).

YA, or you just spend all ur gold on mystic forge, then go bannannas and quit the game. RNG is a b*ach and it’ll always be. There are lucky people that get it from first chest after hitting level 80 and randomly do some chest event, there are people who farmed well over 1000g, spent it all on rares and/or exotics and NEVER gotten a single precursor. There are posts on reddit, easy to find youtube movies, with guys putting in 500 rares at a time, then using every rare and exotic they’ve gotten and putting them into mystic forge again and NEVER seen a precursor. There is one dude that got his precursor by luck, then sold it and thought of making a HUGE profit by using all of the money to buy rares, get more precursors and sell them again, spent all of the money, got nothing, wanted to shoot himself cause he got and sold the precursor he wanted and then went and blew away all the money he had on a stupid idea leaving him with nothing but regret.

I would NEVER recommend spending money this was, it just isn’t worth it. If you’re a patient dude just keep collecting the rares that drop while you farm/play, put them into mystic forge and if kitten happens, it happened. If not you have your gold. When you have enough materials and/or gold to make legendary simply buy precursor and rest of materials and just finish it. Spending 300g on nothing and then figuring you were like 1/4 of the way to legendary and now you have nothing will probably mess you up, whatever you tell yourself now – being mentally ready for failure and failing and accepting it are 2 different things.

Hey guys, LOVE the SoB, but having issues with auto attack. Could you maybe make it so the game remembers when i put the auto attack (auto cast) one skill number 1 (pointy stick)?
Every time i enter a zone with every character i have to assign auto to skill 1 again. I would really like it if game would remember. Just sth to think about.
Thank you a LOT, can’t wait for world 2 to be completed, preview is SO COOL!

EDIT: while i’m at it, could you maybe add an option to start with 5 lives like you would have if you died inside? I know people buy more lives and potions and everything, and it’s fine that it would be saved, but i often end up with 1 life and like 2 hearts and that’s fine for zone 1 and 2, but for zone 3 i have to suicide at the end of zone 2 then reenter.

EDIT 2: this is certainly gonna be interesting post… I remembered also that sometimes on frog king, while i’m hitting the ruby medallion a chunk of it doesn’t drop. It should though, it’s the phase in which you’re supposed to be hitting it. – not sure if it drops from one hit or is it random so if you could confirm it is random or look into it why doesn’t it drop every time?

Well let’s see.
My ISP is giving me 1 extra IPTV package for free and has boosted my speed from entry level to 1 above, also for free, for being a loyal customer. I can’t say they don’t have special offers for new people joining the club that don’t apply to me as well, but hey, us “loyal customers” get sth also so we don’t complain.
My bank is giving me discount on certain services and better credit and saving interest cause I’m a long time member.
My car insurance is giving me a discount as a long time user.
My mobile provider is giving me bigger discount on buying a mobile phone cause i’m a loyal customer.
I could go on. in any case they do have offers to new users/members/whatever that don’t extend to us “loyal customers” BUT we, the “loyal customers” are not left behind and do have many benefits of being LOYAL.
Now, as for GW1, I’ve bought 2 accounts. I’ve lost the login information during the years for my first account and then I bought the edition that had all of the games in it (some black box edition, forgot the name). I’ve been among the first people who bought the game in my local store (it was preorder and i’ve been waiting for the box with beta key and game key to arrive for a few weeks) so I consider myself a “loyal customer”. The only thing I got was beta access (many people got it for free) and 3 day head start that I couldn’t capitalize on cause constant lags, disconnects, black lion trading company not working etc. By the time it all got fixed we were 10 days or 2 weeks in the game and people who played more than 5-6 hours per day and didn’t preorder have actually been ahed of me.
So yeah I think i have plenty of examples in my life where I haven’t been screwed for supporting the company. I have to admit I like what Anet is doing less and less by the day. It’s turning out to be bang for bucks and grind fest kind of a game we didn’t expect and with no regard for the people who actually supported it from the start.

Man this sale is not cool. Yes, we did get a 3 months “early access” in regard to people who are just buying the game, and the stuff they get is “only cosmetic”, and probably the post where a dude says if you bought pants today and saw them on 20% sale tomorrow you wouldn’t walk in a store and ask for a 20% refund, but Anet could’ve at lest put digital delux on 70% discount (gem store) in the same time they offered it for free to new players, if nothing then as a way of NOT saying “kitten you GW2 supporters who payed this game at the beginning of this year and are playing it since 3 day head start”.
They could’ve also supported the players who played guild wars 1 for some time and not segregate them when new christmass gifts are being given, cause if you have 30/50 HoM points or more you can’t even apply.
It seems they only care about profits lately, they turned the game up side down only to accommodate “new players” and people who never played guild wars 1 (or even GW2 cause they don’t like the “we all have same gear” policy) but other MMOs. Ascended gear? You seen the amount of farm it takes? I mean I could even forgive them the legendary grind, but ascended gear is something that makes a power difference and makes it easier to play fractals. And you need 250 T6 rare material farm, 50 ectos etc. For dungeon that doesn’t give money (compared to other dungeons), karma, influence or anything else.

I seriously don’t like the direction this game is heading.

Well live then in your world with teddy bears and rainbows.

For someone who had 18 of them in inventory from before (and i know people had more, there was 1 confirmed screenshot of a person holding like 15 of them – dusk and dawn combination – in inventory) it’s in their interest to sell them for as high as they can. So if you think in a way that he MAKES 340g for every1 sold and that he makes at lest 20g for every1 he resells, it’s not such a bad deal. Considering he sells 340g for 100€, even if he sells 1 of the ones he had from before every week it’s not a bad thing. It’s not as it’s his only way of making money.

That’s my opinion and the fact that market reacts in a way i thought it would just confirms it to me.

If you think it’s conspiracy theory, look at the price of small fang. I was transmuting them 2 months ago (tiny to small) for a small profit. The price of small fang at a time was 1s20c to 1s40c. Then it fell to 30c and orders were about 22c . The person who lowered the price (and it was done in a matter of 2-3 days) has been buying them for 2 months, and now the price has risen to 1s18c again in a matter of 3-4 days. Guess it’s a conspiracy theory that a person, or a small number of people are doing this to make money?

People controlling the dusk price have order’s at 300g-320g and sell it for 400g+ (it costs them 60g to sell it for 400g so every piece they buy for 300g-320g gives them minimum of 20g profit) so the only way a “random” person can sell it to you is for buy order that is higher than 330g and lower than 400g. The price is now shifting to 430g(ish) and it costs them around 65gold to sell it for that amount so they can rise the buy order to as much as 350g. The higher they have to buyout the swords on sale, the higher their low price for selling them goes. And it keeps going up every time a random person doesn’t sell it to their buy order but put’s it on sale for 10-20 gold lower than they sell it to.

He doesn’t need a spare tinfoil… TBH it’s obvious to any1 watching the TP prices for some time.

@Tallis I can only say that while from my post it might seem I am tempted, but I will never do it, I will never buy gold from gold sellers (nor from Anet at this ratio) I hate them every bit as much as you do.
I just wanted to point out that it would be far easier to do it that way. You see farming for the last 2 and a half months (well not exactly farming, but “playing with a bit of farming, mostly enjoying myself”) has gotten me nowhere, while I could afford the mentioned 150€ or 530G via gold sellers in less than a week of my real life. They (Anet) are letting the game go there, they are letting them do this to the rest of us (mostly control the high end market and amassing the huge amounts of gold they sell to us, while bots ruin every other aspect of the market by lowering the prices drastically cause of the inflation of most of the items regular people can farm), by doing it (or Anet not doing what they should) they are in fact turning people from the game and ruining it. They (Anet) should really do something about it.

Hy Anet, I know there are many posts/discussions like this, but here is what i think. I know you didn’t mean for legendary weapons to be easily obtainable, and that’s ok. I also know you didn’t mean for gold sellers and bots to be as widespread as they are now, but they are. So how i see the game now – there are 3 types factors that are currently destroying the games economy – TP manipulators that are raising and lowering prices of certain items to serve their need. There are bots farming loads of materials and deflating the prices of everything but the most rare items in the game, and those few items we can see are skyrocketing atm (legendary precursors, lodestones, even ectos going up now) and then there are gold sellers.

What is happening atm is gold sellers controlling probably every part of the market. They are making loads of gold on flipping legendary precursors and certain other items. What they can’t flip they farm with their bots. I’ve been reporting them since day one, and while i do see the number of spammers in major cities and people sending in game mail with offers of selling money drop, I still see the same b0ots i reported weeks ago still farming the same events/areas.
So, they keep the prices of legendary precursors absurdly high and still raising them. The highest order for dusk not 2 months ago was like 30-40 gold, while atm it’s 370g. That’s 11 times more in just 2 months, why aren’t you doing something about it? It is not like the price is stabilising, it’s going crazy atm. At the same time the mentioned gold sellers sell 530G for 150€ and if I buy gems for 150€ i can convert them to 68-70G. I never bought money from gold sellers (in gw1 or gw2 or any other game) because I think people like that are what is ruining the economy and the game in the end, but then again it’s not like we see you actively doing anything to prevent this.
Basically atm I can “farm” the extra 150€ in real life for 2-3 days (at most the 1 work week) and buy myself legendary precursor (dusk) along with icy runestones and 2 recipes for the gifts and still have some extra pocket money, or I could waste more time in this game farming money and achieving nothing. So far I have 100g on my character (and i preordered the game so i’ve been playing since 25th of august) and few attempts to get the precursor via mystic forge, not to mention how many dungeon runs and farming claw of jormag, shatterer and temples in orr. The only thing i see is that when i make 1 step forward in getting the precursor (i’ve all but given up on the idea that i will get it as a drop so i figured i would just buy it on tp) i see it’s price going up another 30-50% and that i’ve actually gone 2 steps back. This is very frustrating and the idea of saying “screw you Anet” and just buying the kitten thing from the goldsellers ( the same ones that will sell me the gold for 150€) via “forbidden methods”. I’m not the only one feeling this frustration and while i am strong believer that you should be supported and that doing any kind of business with goldsellers is bad, you’re doing everything you can to disapprove me by doing nothing to prevent this kinds of issues ingame.

I hope you will give this some serious thought as I’ve seen a number of my friends giving up on the idea that there is any hope of us getting the legendaryes the “legitimate” way and since economy is all but broken, that we could get any kind of money ingame with crafting, farming, or any other method in a “normal” amount of time. You said there would be no need for grinding in this game, and we believed you. Now we’re not saying you should just plain out give the legendaries to people, just that you should better control what is going on with games economy and stopp supporting gold sellers and bots and give sth to us “regular” people.

I mentioned 1 item as to not go into 30 different items every time I wanna make an example.
This item is however also the one I know had this price for some time.
And one more thing I’m sure of is that it’s either a single person (representing his guild) or even 2-3 persons representing 2-3 guilds that have the same goal.

the thing is, no “normal” player would undercut the price by 10-20c. Example, lowed offer is 1s22c, his offer is 73 items for 1s02c. Then when no1¸undercuts him he does the following – random amount of items (lets say between 63 and 180) every 5 copper.

example:
1s22c 738
1s02c 73

his 73 is bougth off
1s22c 738
1s18c 63
1s12c 112
1s07c 81
1s01c 92

(last 3 offers come within seconds)
at the same time he is selling off the highest orders (so if the highest order was 1s12c when he started, he would sell claws to every order that is above 80c)

within 10 minutes, people stop buying his offers cause they see a price drop, new players just undercut his prices and the market is quasi stable at claws being at 95c offer and 75c order – to an average Joe it looks like an actual price.
What he does then is place a “block” – 3.5k claws at 95c and starts undercutting himself again.

withing 1h price is 70c with 3 blocks of 1.5-3k claws at certain thresholds and every order satisfied that is above 50c

That was day one.

Day 3: price is 50c – lowest ordered is 35c – here is where he is buying EVERYTHING.

he goes to sleep. prices goes up to 75c – but then he puts another “block” of 3.5k claws and another of 2k claws at 70c – he started pushing price down again.

Every day, at approximately same time (to me it is afternoon/night) he starts pushing the price down, every morning i wake up, prices start going up, but he doesn’t let them, cause a few blocks, as soon as he comes online, prices go down again, drastically, and kinda fast.

another thing I know for sure, he doesn’t farm them, he just manipulates the prices as low as he can, buys wast amounts of them, let’s the prices go up a bit (2-3 blocks, but everything people buy off from him comes to him with a profit) and then next day he lowers it again.

That’s clear manipulation. You can say people can’t afford them while leveling? They could., I’ve seen amounts of 500-1k of claws I would put on TP sold within seconds/minutes at 1.20-1.40s
I just don’t know what he is planning to do with them- keep the price here, or will he let it normalize on its own eventually!?

I have other items i deal in, it’s not like this is the only item i trade with and all my assets are in it and if price doesn’t go up I’m ruined. It’s just that this kind of manipulation sucks.

My advice would be to Anet not let put 1 item in 20 different offers by 20 different prices for 1 account. – You get to put it at 1 price. If you have milion to sell, you can, but only at a single price. That should make this kind of manipulation harder if not too boring for them.

Kian.3769:

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What I don’t understand is why you think there’s a ‘right’ way to play the market and an ‘unfair’ way to play the market. And that keeping the price up is right and lowering the price is unfair.

It would seem like the guy who lowered the price of goods is actually helping all the people who are leveling crafting professions. Those are the people who give the items value in the first place. Without people leveling their crafts, the value of the mats would be zero. I hope you aren’t arguing that the price of the crafting materials is based on the price of the finished product, because crafted equipment simply doesn’t sell on the market.

Because price determined by the players leveling crafting professions was 1.20-1.40s until he intervened. and while he is not online the price i rising to that amount, but he is using the described “blocks” to prevent it.

Today it went up from around 50c (where he lowered it to) to 74c and then he simply placed 3.8k claws at 73c to try and prevent it from going up and is still trying to lower it by placing some amount of the mentioned items for 60c while the next offer is at 72-73c.
He is actively forcing the price down. Those same people leveling their crafting professions need money to do it. destroying a certain market isn’t going to help them.

Imagine powerful blood – viable item to farm, you also get loads of potent blood in the process. It goes for around 16-20s and then som1 comes and lowers it to 5s by the method mentioned above. Who in their right mind would EVER farm it? drop tare w/o MF gear is like 1 in an hour with MF gear goes up to 10-15 pieces in an hour, mby more. But that includes omnomberry and magic find booster that also cost money.
and to make it even worse, lowers the price of potent blood to 60c – who would ever farm it?

I’m not saying playing a market is wrong, but in this game not so many people CAN actually play the market in this way, he isn’t playing it, he is deciding it. He is forming it. It’s his price, not the peoples price, not market price.

The thing with this person is he can afford to lose 5-10G on lowering the price cause he is obviously not doing this for 2-3G profit as most of us are (i’m even at times happy with less than 1G in short term).
So what he does it, as vesuvias said there is an array of tables, and not a room full of them in this economy, he just fills in the first 30 places, highest above him had a price of 1s20c which was normal market price before he started manipulating the marked. the lowest below him has 50c price. He artificially created a gap of 70c between lowest and second lowest price (he also filled in every buy request in between the two) which is “not cool” in my opinion. Now a new player comes along, has a bunch of small claws he doesn’t need, doesn’t know the market price, and ofc. he undercuts him by 1c – a normal way. Some other person comes, sees that the price is 50c and only 2 days ago way 1s40c and doesn’t sell them, cause he needs it to be 1s at least. Maybe he even bought a bunch of them while the price was first going down for 70-80c knowing it will return to 1.20-1.40 where it has been before this happened, but the price stays low and he is stuck with a bunch of items he doesn’t need.
First 2-3 days people even tried to fight him, but he obviously has HUGE resources and it become impossible.

They will always be able to.
Look at what they did with butter though (even though I think it only helped the big fishes cause) – it cost 1c, then they changed the game and made it so you MUST put a price 1c over and in a split of a second it became 2c – people who bought loads of it made 70% profit.

Then, like that wasn’t enough, people who didn’t sell them for 2c (and/or even bought them at 1c), thinking it could only go higher, made a kill when Anet put a recipe in game for that portable mystic forge conduit and perma elixirs to transform into elementals, not to mention 20s-2G jewels etc.
Anyways within hours it went up to 15c – friend invested 2G while they were 1c thinking it could only go higher… I’m sorry he didn’t share the thoughts with me, I would’ve been 25G richer today, as he was approx.

Anyways similar recipe for items being manipulated would help the cause every now and then. and I know they have the charts that show suspiciously fast change in price of certain items. They CAN intervene!

I know what you mean. The issue here is that i got them for approx 70c each and prices now vary from 50-75c (the person manipulating the market is kinda satisfied being in this range as far as i can see, for the moment at least).

So selling them now would mean that I did have some loses on them, but not so much to say I’ve RLY RLY LOST and bang my head against a wall (it’s not even the 15%, it’s more like 5-7% loss and I’ve gained that back multiple times by now buying low selling high so I would be above zero when all things would be considered).

The problem will be if he keeps pushing the price down. then again if he raises the price MUCH in the next few days/weeks, I will be making a fine deal.

As you’ve said, the problem is I don’t know IF and WHEN the prices would go up. The other thing is i don’t need the money now, and am willing to risk at this point.

I will read through your post and see what else I can do. ATM I’m not a large player, few tens of gold is not sth than could compete against someone who has thousands so I can’t go against him, only “play smart”. So far I’m not in a bad position.

I still don’t like it.
I wish I was sure he would raise the price to back where it was cause he is hoarding 100k or more of the items and is planing to sell them at double, triple or even higher profit, but I can’t be sure if that’s the game he is playing or if he is simply trying to stay in the sweet spot and just resell them for 20-30% profit all the time (profit, meaning once 15% TP fee is reduced from the sale).

So for now I’m only watching what is going on and buying low selling high. I do keep some stash of few thousand of the items in case prices do go up, but again, calculating that I don’t lose on them (much) if price goes further down.

I know what the creator of this thread is talking about since I’ve been monitoring a few items on TP, and in particular the small claw.
It started like 10 days ago, price was pretty much stable and between 1s40c and 1s20c give or take. Then someone intervened and started lowering the price bit by bit. Now at first this wasn’t a problem, he lowered it to around 1s and it came back up to 1s14c – small drop, not so noticeable for us that sold it in normal amounts. But then he kept pushing it down. The lowest priced item was like 1s14c he put an offer of 40 of them for 1s10c, then 32 for 1s2c then 100 for 92c etc. which made other people undercutting it.
When he stops intervening, prices go up a bit, but he is pretty much active for hours at a time. now, this might not seem like a problem to most of people, since this is only small claw and not many of you are rly interested in this particular item, but i know of many more where similar interventions happen. The problem is that he dropped a price of small claw from 1s40c to less than 60c and he is buying it for 40c or less atm. I don’t know ih he/they are planing to buy HUGE amounts and the aggresivly raise the price to like 2s or even higher, or are they just satisfied to slowly buy them for 40c or less and then selling them for 60c or higher, but i think it’s the scenario in which the price will go to 2s. Problem with this is that he/they are manipulating the price of an item, directly affecting the economy and causing problems for rest of us that just want to make money the proper way.

I honestly thought that the prices would normalize on their own in a few days once he/they are finished, but he put’s a block every 5-10c – now I might not be clear so let me explain. A “block” is what I call when he puts like 1.5 – 2k small claws up for like 65c. Then even if people raise the price back to 65c, they have to buy 1.5k of small claws (that he got for less than 40c) at 65c before the price can go higher, but there is another “block” of 2k at 70c (he probably bought them at 50-55c anyways, and he doesn’t care even if they do) and then at 80c and 86c and 93c an 99c etc. So while he is offline it is very unlikely price will return to normal, it will be a bit higher, but when it comes near a “block” people will not wait in line for 2000 of small claws to sell for 70c before it’s their turn for their items to sell, they will most likely undercut him for 1c etc. so it take like 8-12h for the prices to go up 20c and then he is back online and is pushing prices down even more.

I’ve been a witness to this for the last 10(ish) days and I’ve yet to see what he/they are planing to do, but as far as I can see, there are more and more economy manipulators out there, people who probably later sent their bots to LA to spamm “I sell gold”, while the rest of us are helpless and can only watch as prices of items we make money on go down, and Anet just stands there and watches – 15% selling fee is not enough. And they manipulate the prices of items they know will sell in huge amounts very fast – whoever is leveling any crafting profession will probably need like 30 of every tier 1 to tier 5 rare crafting materials, so manipulating their prices and the price of normal crafting materials is the easiest way to make a profit.