Well i guess Arena net changed my account name for some reason i ignore.
Anyway thank you guys for answering.
I know a lot of you hating on me because i got lucky with forge, and indeed i was, but please believe me i always had bad luck with it and flushed lots of gold in it.
In fact none of my guild mates said to me “how lucky you are” they all said “finally!” “well deserved” when i drop my precursors.
Anyway i am not looking for your sympathy, i just wanted to share my story and maybe be helpful and warn people thinking to do the same i did with Eternity.
About doing item research before listing it, i really did.
If you check Eternity on gw2 tp you will notice that never droped down 4k gold before i listed it ( 17 February ) and the supply was always low, max 20 but usually around 15 while now 27.
I made a mistake, i judged the market in the wrong way, i’m not complaining about bad luck or about the game.
“Smashing doors at 5am … fun fun fun fun fun” Rebecca Black
This is the worst case of GW2 first world problems I’ve ever seem.
With just 400g investment you got both Dusk and Down, and you are feeling sad because you are not getting about 4000g that you wanted but instead you’ll get like 3k profit? Yeah it must be hard being you.
Crafting Twilight and Sunrise isn’t exactly cheap.
Eternity price is much lower then the swords you use to forge it.
I understand your point, people doesn’t even get the chance to make a legendary while i made the most expensive one.
This is true, but still i will never sell it, and if i remove the auction i lose 200 golds, and what if i re-list it for 3500 golds and i don’t even sell it at this price? I’ll lose even more golds and the effort me and my girlfriend put to craft it.
Actually if i sell it for 4000 i almost get back the same amount of gold i used to make it( 3400 golds profit ).
“Smashing doors at 5am … fun fun fun fun fun” Rebecca Black
I don’t even know what’s going on. How, in any manner, can you be complaining for being gifted sumptuous amounts of gold? This is on you dude, you’re taking a blessing and spinning it into a curse through your own work. At some point, people need to help themselves.
At moment i am sitting on 60 gold and i can’t even re-list the item but i get your point.
I still have something worth, maybe not worth the effort you put in it but still worth lots of golds, even if you can’t obtain it
Anyways i checked the market before listing it and Eternity almost never drop down 4k golds, the highest one was at 4198 so i thought undercutting it for almost 200 golds was a good decision.
How wrong i was.
“Smashing doors at 5am … fun fun fun fun fun” Rebecca Black
Thank you everyone for sharing your opinion, good or bad.
Even if you feel like i did something wrong to the mankind and have the urge to make fun of my troubles i appreciate your opinion.
Some of you had very nice words and maybe, as suggested, i should just try to enjoy my play time with my girlfriend not thinking about it.
Just to clarify i was always low on gold in this game, i just had the chance, for the first time, to make the golds i never had, and i got it.
Thing went wrong, as you know.
I don’t think i was that greedy, or karma should really punish me in some mysterious way but if this is your opinion i respect it.
“Smashing doors at 5am … fun fun fun fun fun” Rebecca Black
Wall of text inc.
I came back to gw2 in January after months of non playing.
I originally left the game long time ago because i flushed lots of golds into the mystic forge ( i know, my fault ).
Anyways this time i was just enjoying my play time, and i have to say i feel like the game has improved a lot.
15 days ago i got spark from forge by just putting 4 random rare daggers i drop from world bosses into it.
It was a good feeling, after all the gold wasted i felt like the game was finally rewarding me.
Feeling lucky i decided to invest 400 golds in greatswords ( always wanted Twilight ) and magically i come back with a Dusk and a Dawn drop.
With the help of my girlfriend i decided to forge Eternity so i could unlock Twilight and Sunrise skins, sell Eternity to get some money back and craft an ascendent greatsword that has the same stats as a Legendary weapon.
One week ago we checked the market and noticed Eternity price almost never drop down 4k golds.
The highest selling price was 4198 golds so we decided to put it at 4k sure we would sell it sooner or later.
Worst decision ever.
The price got undercut in minutes and it went lower and lower the days after.
We never had really the chance to sell it and i feel like i will never do , there are 7 more Eternity cheaper than mine at moment.
Since now i’m down to 60 gold i can’t even cancel it and lower the price ( i would lose 200 gold anyways )
Maybe is because of news about new legendaries and new precursors crafting coming with expansion but i feel like i will never sell it at that price.
Now my game experience is ruined because i don’t want to log in anymore and if i do i always look at the trading post praying to sell that piece of pixels, i have again that bad feeling you have when you waste lots of gold in the mystic forge.
It was my own decision and i blame myself, i don’t blame the game or arena net, i just feel sorry for my girlfriend, since she invested a lot in it to give me the motivation to play this game with her again.
Sorry if i felt the need to vent my frustration.
At least i can give you guys a little advice, if you plan to sell an Eternity be very careful, this may be not the best moment to do it.
Please forgive my english.
“Smashing doors at 5am … fun fun fun fun fun” Rebecca Black
Good point OP .
I passed from being the guy defending ArenaNet from the mad at ‘em one , and obviously the people in my guild always crying about the game being bad and played just because there isn’t an alternative had 200G worth drops while me and my girlfriend just crap ( she could not even log in ) .
Now this is the biggest problem to me , is not about precursor price droping , i don’t really care about legendary , it is the value of a precursor .
You can’t give so different rewards to people doing the same one time event ( another
stupid thing , support for people in Asia and Oceania ) .
This is not a lottery or a gamble , nor a dungeon or a mystic forge precursor attempt .
I feel like i don’t want to support this game anymore .
Sorry for the rant .
“Smashing doors at 5am … fun fun fun fun fun” Rebecca Black
It’s not just a fastweb problem .
I got Wind Infostrada and have exactly the same issue as my girlfriend ( Fastweb ) but i have noticed not all infostrada users got lag , a friend of mine is playing without problems .
“Smashing doors at 5am … fun fun fun fun fun” Rebecca Black
Got exactly the same problem but my internet provider is Wind Infostrada .
If i try to log i get kicked out and then stuck on loading screen .
Looks like it is our providers problem and not a game one .
if it’s a problem regarding Italy, i think aNet should give us some help.
It’s a bit strange if ALL PROVIDERS start giving problem all at once.
if it was only fastweb, we could have thought it was due to the dynamic IP stuff, but since it’s happening with other providers too, i think it’s something worse.
Maybe it will fixed soon, but if it isn’t, then there’s indeed a problem up here in Italy.
The biggest problem to me will be try to explain the situation to the random guy answering me from a call center having zero clue on what he is doing .
“Smashing doors at 5am … fun fun fun fun fun” Rebecca Black
Got exactly the same problem but my internet provider is Wind Infostrada .
If i try to log i get kicked out and then stuck on loading screen .
Looks like it is our providers problem and not a game one .
“Smashing doors at 5am … fun fun fun fun fun” Rebecca Black
Oh thank you Mr. Nostradamus to show me how things will go in future .
Also comparing warhammer to this game …
GW2 and WAR are two different things , you are not playing versus people of your own server .
I’m not sure FS would easy win versus other servers in lower brackets anyway since the night capping population in here is very few and there are lowest servers that can cover night time better IMHO .
If you never try you’ll never know it .
Also isn’t VS easy winning every rotation ?
What about for one single time FS , maybe , wins a rotation ?
Is this going to be so bad or you’ll just give one less frustrating WvW week to people playing on that server?
inbefore the "this is a war " " you just QQ" " organize better or stop whining" arguments.
“Smashing doors at 5am … fun fun fun fun fun” Rebecca Black
So VS and FS will be paired forever …
Seriously guys this is becoming more then annoying .
Don’t you think people are already bored enough to always play in the same rotation and knowing one week before how this will end ?
You need to revise your score system imho .
“Smashing doors at 5am … fun fun fun fun fun” Rebecca Black
I don’t want everyone in my guild to move to another game but this is gonna happen if you don’t somehow limit night capping , and is not just “my guild” case .
You are not giving the same opportunity to be part of the “war” to everyone , you are giving free wins to people playing at night ,and i imagine them to be way less then day-time players, and this discourages people to play WvW , to invest golds in upgrades , to enjoy this part of the game , try to realize it ASAP .
“Smashing doors at 5am … fun fun fun fun fun” Rebecca Black
I’m very sad to see you guys at arenanet have such a tunnelvision on this argument .
You don’t even look to play your own game .
We are not asking to turn off WvW for night cappers , or to don’t let people play at night , we are demanding balance , not perfect balance as sPvP , but can you please understand that if 70/80% of people play during daytime and 20% during night , and night players without effort can totally win a rotation thanks to a couple of night pve raids , you are advantaging night players over day players ( that imo are the 80% of your community ) ? Is this the WvW you dreamed about ?
Is this what do you think the majority of people wants ?
See you in couple of months where there will be few server still playing WvW .
“Smashing doors at 5am … fun fun fun fun fun” Rebecca Black
I support the guy above me .
Also noone is asking to turn off your pve night/day raids , we are demanding a balance for a gamebreaking ( imo ) issue .
For you guys is ok to allow PvDoors to win rotations , for me and a lot of other people is the thing that discourages us to play .
Now you can keep on saying “go back to wow/swtor/hko” “diz iza war” or we can try to find a solution , since i think that let EVERYONE enjoy the game should be Devs and Community goal .
“Smashing doors at 5am … fun fun fun fun fun” Rebecca Black
All is fair in love and war – and as love, WvW is a battlefield.
There are exploits, I’ll give you that – but then there is coordinated effort to ensure your world or your team uses each and every resource they have to their advantage.
War is not fair, war is not pretty, war gets out the worst in us – and the best – and even if we have excluded open world pvp from the rest of the game, this is exactly what happens on the WvW maps: It is the ‘playground’ for strategists and great tacticians, it is the place for coordinated efforts and mean ideas in the middle of the night.
Night capping is one of those valid tactics to score some points in a lasting battle – to get your world the upper hand, or cancel out daytime supremacy by another well coordinated opponent.
As Guild Wars 2 will progress in time, so will world vs. world and core gameplay mechanics. But for now, night capping is one valid possibility to ruin your enemie’s days – pun intended.
I’m really sad to read this and IMHO is the most stupid argument i read about the “issue”.
Stop comparing WvW to war , in war you have opponents , in night capping WvW you have not , you are just pveing in a “supposed to be” rvr zone .
If you guys at arenanet can’t understand it you’ll be probably surprised when people will get bored about the game because all their efforts are nullified by 50 people playing at 5 am .
I already have almost all my guild , included me , avoiding WvW just because of nightcapping , all grow up men coming from DaoC , accepting the situation but being disgusted by it .
Can’t see all of us playing for long time if things don’t change.
“Smashing doors at 5am … fun fun fun fun fun” Rebecca Black
I don’t like underwater combat, i don’t like map design , i don’t like sharks .
I just skip this map and everyone in my guild do the same .
I accept different points of view but if there are so many people disliking the map you should realize that there is something wrong in it .
“Smashing doors at 5am … fun fun fun fun fun” Rebecca Black
Coming here just to say to all people talking about “war” that in war you have enemies to fight , in players versus gates you have not , so please stop this pointless comparison.
“Smashing doors at 5am … fun fun fun fun fun” Rebecca Black
My guild will full transfer if in the next rotation we’ll be again paired versus VS .
I do not agree with this decision and i would like to stay on FS , but you know in democracy the majority wins .
Still i don’t think this is the right decision but i can’t blame ’em , people just want to have fun playing a videogame .
“Smashing doors at 5am … fun fun fun fun fun” Rebecca Black
WvW standing is about the server. If your server doesn’t have a capable night team that can keep your points up over the nighttime hours, then your server lost it’s points fair and square. It’s judged by how well the server does overall 24/7 not how well it does during your primetime. So get better night teams. WvW doesn’t just take a rest and wait for you to be ready before the games back on.
If a server is beating you because of nightcapping. then they are a stronger server, and they deserve their spot above you.
And this is obviously how things are going .
The game has a 24/7 persistent WvW and we must accept the situation.
Still it’s killing the fun for alot of people that thinks pveing doors whitout opposition shouldn’t be the way you have to win in WvW .
If this is the aim of the game i’m ok with it , i’ll stick to sPvP and accept that my guildmates , having 100% interest but zero fun in WvW , will probably leave the game .
“Smashing doors at 5am … fun fun fun fun fun” Rebecca Black
Well as I already said the ranking system will work it out itself.
You will eventually be match up against lower presence servers. Vs will face higher presence servers.
If it is only really about fun, and not misplaced pride in a game, you surely won’t mind to face server with equal presence in a lower tier as then it will be fair and fun.
Hopefully we’ll have some kind of fair competition versus other servers and hopefully there are servers out there that can compete with your night capping .
Let’s wait and see.
“Smashing doors at 5am … fun fun fun fun fun” Rebecca Black
This is jsut them understadning that its a 24/7 war that doesn’t stop and so to be the very best you need to have people playing 24/7.
In war you have opponents defending/attacking .
Anyway i can see this as a possible solution .
Also they could open map’s slots based on how many people are already in .
Something like cap tiers .
Tier 1 max 50 people per server .
When every server get 50 people in , it unlocks tier 2 , from 50 to 100 people etc.
“Smashing doors at 5am … fun fun fun fun fun” Rebecca Black
The problem in my honest opinion is the downed state making very hard to 1 vs 2(or more) .
Downing 2 people and being pushed away by a random guardian that rez em all … i just don’t like it and i think punishes more good players then bad ones taking advantage of downed state.
“Smashing doors at 5am … fun fun fun fun fun” Rebecca Black
I’m playing on Vizunah Square and all that i can tell is that nightcapping isn’t a myth… It’s a true problem for our server and for the ones we are playing against. The only people who are going to tell you otherwise are those who like easy wins or the kiddos/lamers who believes that being on VS make them some kind of elite and that can’t take any criticism. Honestly i don’t really see how people on VS can have fun or be proud of winning in this situation. Last weekend has been a proof of that with VS being beaten on daytime and taking back all the maps in no time at night. At 4 AM we had 10K points less than FS, and at 8 AM on Monday we had 30 K more…
The most obvious option would be to divide the number of points granted during nightime or raise the number of points taken during peak times (that should be around 4 PM to 1AM in Europe, but Anet knows that better than us). Limit the upgrades available at night too. I am not saying that VS can’t win without nightcapping, because we have very organized guilds and alliances with talented RVR players. But i would prefer to win in other conditions and with more equity. Right now with nightcapping, winning just doesn’t prove anything.
And for the people who are saying they would be penalized by such a rule because they can only play at night, please tell me how the WWW at night is enjoyable… Empty forts taken by the Vizunah bus in PVE mode and Vizunah players camping at the others servers’s respawn with siege weapons … Definitely great fun and enjoyment.
I don’t care if you are a fake or not , i agree on every single point .
The problem is people not looking for balance and fun , just to win by night pve parties and raise their e-kitten .
“Smashing doors at 5am … fun fun fun fun fun” Rebecca Black
@albi i can’t quote you i dunno why .
Anyway i do agree that VS is more organized then us and as i’ve already said 20 times they would win also without night capping , but people just skip my text and keep using the whine word ( maybe because similar spelled to wine and you are french <—- this is a joke ) .
Also they assume russians ( Nug, ZDs etc ) are leading us when mostly people from Psyc ( psychosis ? ) guild are trying to coordinate the zerg while some of the russians commander never said a single word in team/map chat.
Not whining at all , just demanding a balance of what IMO is a game breaking issue , but i already know this isn’t going to happen , must accept it and stick to sPvP.
“Smashing doors at 5am … fun fun fun fun fun” Rebecca Black
I don’t think there is much to discuss here. Fact is Vizunah Square has a lot of dedicated PvP players that are active during the night while the other servers do not.
The meaning of the PvP word canged from player versus player in player versus door ?
Why nobody said that to me before?
Not gonna say they are not pvp rvr wvw oriented , as i already said i think they are the most organized server and would win also without night capping .
Anyway since looking for balanced fights is whining according to you guys i quit the conversation .
Have fun .
It’s not PvP, it’s WvW.
When the objectives are to take fortresses, yes, at some point you will attack a door.
If there isn’t any player to defend it, live with it and don’t come whining.
FS and Deso have as many night players as VS, it’s just that VS nightplayers are part of an alliance with leads on vocal while it seems than FS and Deso just have random players doing puzzle jumps.
If you want to prevent the nightcaping, just organize your nightplayers, eventually make an alliance with Deso to even TAKE something.
Last Friday, when we played with a group of 5 CPC versus the Nugos bus, we still were able to take a lot of supplies, kill doliaks and destroy some fortifications to empty the stock of provisions. We were 5 from the guild with a leader on vocal and maybe 1 or 2 pickups following us.
He used the PvP word , not me , i just quoted his post .
As already said i’m not gonna answer since you guys can’t understand the difference between whining and demanding balance , also looks like the main argument is that we have people doing jumping puzzle instead of wvw at 5am , we are such a bunch of pve carebears .
Once again i quit the conversation , have fun knocking on ’em doors.
“Smashing doors at 5am … fun fun fun fun fun” Rebecca Black
I don’t think there is much to discuss here. Fact is Vizunah Square has a lot of dedicated PvP players that are active during the night while the other servers do not.
The meaning of the PvP word canged from player versus player in player versus door ?
Why nobody said that to me before?
Not gonna say they are not pvp rvr wvw oriented , as i already said i think they are the most organized server and would win also without night capping .
Anyway since looking for balanced fights is whining according to you guys i quit the conversation .
Have fun .
“Smashing doors at 5am … fun fun fun fun fun” Rebecca Black
The amount of server pride being demonstrated in these threads is admirable, what is less admirable is the whining about “unfair” strategies being used by the server that happens to be top. The rules and regulations on how points are scored and the times of play were known to everyone before the game launched.
Everything VS has done has been within the rules of the game, and they have executed their strategy very effectively. Other servers may be shell-shocked by this, but VS are not doing anything any other server could not do, it is therefore up to those servers to get their act together to do better than VS currently do it. Clearly many leaders on VS have studied Sun Tzu’s Art of War, and therefore fight the battles they know they can win and avoid the battles they know they will lose.
I am embarrassed by players representing FS in these threads: did Zulu warriors armed with pointy sticks and cowhide shields go crying on forums about how unfair it was for the redcoats to have rifles when they only had pointy sticks? No, they fought and died like the brave men they were, but you know what?; they actually beat the men with rifles a few times.
So my plea to players wanting to represent FS on forums, is to give VS credit for what they have achieved, and then knuckle down to find ways to beat them.
ZULU!!!!!!!
I represent myself not my server .
Not gonna say again my opinion , you can read it through the forum .
I guess having different opinions on game balance is something that you can’t discuss on the game’s forum , must remember it next time .
“Smashing doors at 5am … fun fun fun fun fun” Rebecca Black
You just said it right there, at night you guys don’t try you sit around at the jumping puzzle and whine.
If you were really the #2 server because of your skills then you could slow them down, but you are probably #2 server because of your numbers just like they are #1 because of their numbers.
Ofc mate at 4am i do not sleep because i have to go to work at 8am , i just sit into the jumping puzzle because i’m a pve carebear .
Kitten please.
Its 6am and I’m not going to bed for another hour since I work in the afternoon. I just did all the jumping puzzles an hour ago and there was enemies in every one of them while my server was night capping. an extra 6 people on siege equipment in a tower/keep can make a huge difference.
12:30 am here and working .
Can’t really see any point in your answer .
6am … where do you live ? France must be such a huge country !!
“Smashing doors at 5am … fun fun fun fun fun” Rebecca Black
You just said it right there, at night you guys don’t try you sit around at the jumping puzzle and whine.
If you were really the #2 server because of your skills then you could slow them down, but you are probably #2 server because of your numbers just like they are #1 because of their numbers.
Ofc mate at 4am i do not sleep because i have to go to work at 8am , i just sit into the jumping puzzle because i’m a pve carebear .
Kitten please.
“Smashing doors at 5am … fun fun fun fun fun” Rebecca Black
Hopefully when , and if , there will be private servers ( heard about it ages ago but not implemented at release ) we’ll have the option to disable it .
Anyway IMO is a really horrific mechanic for pvp , making impossible to win 1 vs 2 fights , and i don’t care if you say that i’m not supposed to win 1 vs 2 , if i am better i should be rewarded for it , not being punished by a random guardian pushing me away to res the downed mate .
“Smashing doors at 5am … fun fun fun fun fun” Rebecca Black
