Guild Wars 2

Randulf.7614:

It’s a nice way to end – plenty of NPC’s around to talk to progress the story/lore (one of the big bits I love the most in this game). They stated no knew content after the dungeon, so it isn’t a surprise.

Above all else, a great deal of players getting into the spirit, by gathering together and even celebrating. Player driven fun, w/o the need to kill everything in sight.

Ah ? On my server, the only thing I saw on the /map chat was disappointment…

darkace.8925:

Nachtz.4930:

Is that a joke ?

Thank you for this awesome event, ANet definitely needs to keep on like this. Several month of living story for… a fire, and 10 achievements points.

Yeah, because the experience of the story, the experience of the dungeon, the new crafting recipes, the new titles, the new weapon skins in the gem shop, and the fused gauntlets are all worthless. Right?

Title… “Final Event”. The whole dungeon thing was really great, but this fire at the end is just a joke. Not even a video, a dialog, nothing.

Is that a joke ?

Thank you for this awesome event, ANet definitely needs to keep on like this. Several month of living story for… a fire, and 10 achievements points. Thank you so much <3

1 – Loot the recipe of Nightmare Coil
2 – Enjoy free money

Atoss.1056:

scanz.4536:

Elona must be so upset that they’re coming back up to tier 1. Poor guys, but at least we get a different opponent. Do wonder if we’ll see the same tactics by Vizunah as the last time Elona were in tier 1…..

Yep, brings back memories

I LOL’d at the chat.

Here are some of my weapons

LordByron.8369:

Nachtz.4930:

LordByron.8369:

and what about that if you dye your character gets deleted?

Some players asked that

Now how would you feel if they listened to those minority?
Possibly as all those players that used to play Ascalonian catacombs

Exageration to hide the lack of arguments… How surprising !

its what you are doing…

You are saying….“i can do it lvl 50 even if i fail so its fine and well designed”

Not at all but let’s keep on… Maybe you should read my post and take the words for what they are instead of trying to interpret them.

LordByron.8369:

Its not! 99% players have that issue…you don t count..
I just showed what happens when devs ignore the 99% and give credits to the 1 % (ascalon) and what would happen if you were in the 99% and the 1% was asking unreasonable things.

You are to common players what those asking for delete on Death are to you…
Plain and simple

Yeah, like 99% of groups had problem with Lupicus, and now it’s a faceroll boss with 0 challenge. We should beg for the game to become harder, not easier (I pray for a revamp of CoF P1). I had problem with this fractal before, then I learnt how to deal with it. I just learnt from players who were more skilled than me in fractal, and now I don’t have any problem anymore, whatever the level. It’s a very simple strat, there is like nothing hard to apply it, and if your group doesn’t, don’t complain about the game design, it’s your own fault… Oh and if you are so über-pro in fractal, you should know that there’s a trick to go through this fractal even if the mobs of the 1st sigil have been killed.

I can’t believe it, people asking for this game to get even easier, lolol.

LordByron.8369:

and what about that if you dye your character gets deleted?

Some players asked that

Now how would you feel if they listened to those minority?
Possibly as all those players that used to play Ascalonian catacombs

Exageration to hide the lack of arguments… How surprising !

LordByron.8369:

Oega Boogabooga.6207:

this still alive? im lvl 80 in fracs and im not saying i dont glitch but i can do it without glitching a single fractal
if you cant do lvl 16 or higher it just means you need more practice in doing it, or get a better team

for example you complain about arm seals not being doable if you kill first 4 chanters,
thats actually part of the design, it means you need to be careful
and if i have a good team, i can still kill all 4 chanters and complete it at lvl 50

hell, at lvl 16 i could duo most fracs with a friend of mine.

Cool….
well i don t even believe you, but i really don t care…..
That is an issue for 99,9% players if you are the 0,01 and can solo arah expl gratz to you…..its not a good reason to not fix issues for MOST players.

Expecially because even if you are perfect a single PUG can throw out of the Windows 1,5 hours play…..

P.S. i didn t say wich lvl i play nor what i find difficult….i can say this.
I’ve run more fractals that most players…..and 80% of my playtime is fotm since it was released.

P.P.S: where are all those uber skilled players in game?
Everyone plays lvl 79 with pugs and never fails ON THE FORUM…..but gw2lfg is Always empty past 40….and when you find people .____________. well …..better have guardians and warriors….
SOmething is wrong….on a forum nobody knows you are a kitten.

Yeah, let’s make things even easier ! I think it’s a pretty good game design actually, and it should be repeated in many other places. For instance, for Lupi, I think the stacks of worms should not be reseted even if everyone whipes/tries to reset the boss. That would be challenging, and so is the hammer fractal is you fail at the chest sigil.

Fact is : when all the mobs from one side are killed, another waves pops. So if I don’t kill mobs from one side, the next wave won’t come, right. So may someone enlighten me : how’s that a glitch or an exploit ?

In the hammer fractals, there are exploits, but this one is not. If you want an example, I could give this one : you pull the mob on the first side, place it [I won’t tell it here], so the sigil won’t regenerate and the “puller” is OOC (so people in the corridor can rez if needed). That’s an exploit.

We tried to beat it the normal way but the chanters just out regened the seals to full before we could get back from the previous smash. We were running big aoe builds and even clearing seals before we left the certain area to go to the next.

Problem comes from your group

This glitch is common knowledge to any fractal runner and if you mess it up , it causes a group disband in most cases. It literally is the only way the giant seal level can be beaten past 20.

Pure bullkitten

The dredge level has issues too. People still jump over the opening in the panel room. There is no chance for anyone to fight and infinite battle when running bombs to the gate so everyone just suicide runs.

I run, I set my bomb, I run a bit till the bomb explodes, I go ooc and wait for the next bomb wave (fractal 60+ btw). Maybe you should just learn how to play your class, and how to do an homogeneous group ? And I only play with PUGs. The first fractal (swamp) is a test : I will ask for a kick if someone shows he lacks experience. As a result, no whipe in my last… 30 levels maybe

They just need to revamp Rabsovitch. The fight vs the adds is just plain boring and takes far too much time…

Flissy.4093:

• DO NOT transmute your precursor else you will not be able to make your Legendary.
• Get your Berserker weapon & your Twilight and transmute the Twilight onto the weapon, just as you would with any other skin.
• The reason some people say you lose the purple is because you used to, but this was fixed.

I have attached an image of my own transmuted Legendary as proof.

Noone said that in this topic…

Facepunch.5710:

jwaz, I don’t mean to speak for Nachtz, but I’m not sure he/she would disagree with you about what ANet should or should not do, only what they will or will not do. The fact that transmuted Twilights and Sunrises still have purple text, but cannot be used to create Eternity suggests that the purple text is kept as an aesthetic, but the item is no longer a true Twilight or Sunrise.
When ANet releases Ascended weapons and run a script to convert the stats on all existing Legendary weapons to match the new BiS stats, your transmuted Legendaries may very well not get recognized and upgraded. Again, I’m not arguing that’s the way it should be, only that that’s the way it could be.

That was my point, indeed. I hope I am wrong, though.

Xispeo.1706:

Atoss.1056:

…I talked to some vizunah guys when I was guesting on their serv during my search for uncontested temples in orr few days ago. They said “Yea we have 4 hr queues” so I ask why don’t you guys split to other FR servers then? It would be more balanced competition and you wouln’t have to play at nights and no queues, win-win for you and for us also. And he say “Oh we tried but it’s no fun”.. Now I see ^^ Not being on server that is not winning is no fun? Geeez x_x Like you get anything for winning..

We didn’t leave our server when we were losing.
We like our server, I started on this server and don’t want to go somewhere else.
Btw the 4h queuing was some time ago, longest I can see now is around 2h, maybe 3.

I got 4 yesterday. Queue is random anyway, rather than a FiFo we have a FiWFo (First in, whoever first out)

Simple :

- Don’t transmute the precursor or you won’t be able to upgrade it to legendary
- Don’t transmute the legendary or you won’t be able to upgrade it to Eternity (for Twilight)

Now 2 cases, if you want Eternity or not :

- If not : still don’t transmute, when Ascended weapons will be brought up, Legendaries will be upgraded. I pretty much think that a transmuted legendary won’t see its stats being up’d (only hypothesis in my post, but that would be logical)
- If yes : don’t transmute

Final word : don’t transmute.

Atoss.1056:

Phoebe Ascension.8437:

4 hours queue. Haha don’t you realize it vizunah? You are so indestructible everyone bandwagoned to you (every guildless t1 person). You own fault. Hihi t1 super queue karma punishment for not wanting to quit the blobbing/morning capping.

Sorry i have nothing against the minor core of vizunah, but it get’s frustrating vizunah never seems to have drama. So yes i can’t help but smile drama should come soon with 4 hour EB queue =D. Finally I can dream vizunah will break down…

But there’s troma… Crap, nope it won’t work. Ok vizunah stays t1 forever (until Troma dies).

This was by no means a flame, but rather a sarcastic post trying to make the more ‘open minded’ ppl of vizunah showing how SFR/deso feels.

I talked to some vizunah guys when I was guesting on their serv during my search for uncontested temples in orr few days ago. They said “Yea we have 4 hr queues” so I ask why don’t you guys split to other FR servers then? It would be more balanced competition and you wouln’t have to play at nights and no queues, win-win for you and for us also. And he say “Oh we tried but it’s no fun”.. Now I see ^^ Not being on server that is not winning is no fun? Geeez x_x Like you get anything for winning..

Or you misunderstood him… With only this sentence, you cannot conclude anything actually. I went to a low tier server, and yes, it was no fun. Not because we were not winning (we were), but because the tactics/strategies were terribad, noone was listening, it was basically anarchy.

We were winning, but it was no fun.

QED !

AndrewSX.3794:

Nachtz.4930:

I really expect Desolation and SFR to fall in T2, to give us some fresh air.

Tbh, SFR and deso are the one struggling to get some fresh air by escaping the TierOneof(Fun)Death.

And things won’t change even then, considered ppl in T2 is fighting to avoid going up.

It’s almost comical.

Maybe it’s because SFR and Desolation are getting bored of flamming and crying all the time… ? TBH, I think this topic is a shame for SFR and Desolation, giving a really bad impression on both servers overall. Many posts were moderated, but there was some crazy ones (hi racism and xenophobia, how’re u doing today ?)… When your acts are getting guided by an actual hate, I think it’s time to stop playing, I mean really.

Phoebe Ascension.8437:

4 hours queue. Haha don’t you realize it vizunah? You are so indestructible everyone bandwagoned to you (every guildless t1 person). You own fault. Hihi t1 super queue karma punishment for not wanting to quit the blobbing/morning capping.

Sorry i have nothing against the minor core of vizunah, but it get’s frustrating vizunah never seems to have drama. So yes i can’t help but smile drama should come soon with 4 hour EB queue =D. Finally I can dream vizunah will break down…

But there’s troma… Crap, nope it won’t work. Ok vizunah stays t1 forever (until Troma dies).

This was by no means a flame, but rather a sarcastic post trying to make the more ‘open minded’ ppl of vizunah showing how SFR/deso feels.

I was just reacting to his statement, saying “here’s far less people in WvW now, by all 3 servers”. For VS it’s just plain wrong.

As for your judgment over VS, I would say I don’t care at all… I don’t think there are many new players on VS, I just think people come more in WvW because of free exploration/free karma/free bags. We are litterally farming in WvW right now, Deso and SFR are getting crushed like packs of mobs… The karma income has never been that high either, since it’s impossible for Deso/SFR to defend a point right now (except on EB maybe).

If VS breaks down, it would be due to the boringness of not having a real opponent (for various reasons, no flame here), not due to the bangwaggoners. I really expect Desolation and SFR to fall in T2, to give us some fresh air.

MagnusLL.8473:

Witzard.6829:

More people on the fields, less troll/whine here, I don’t think it has to be a bad thing

Unfortunately there’s far less people in WvW now, by all 3 servers. Arenanet really has to do something about providing balanced matchups or everything else will be pointless.

That said, I’m starting to get annoyed by all the defeatism going around on Deso. We cannot win but we could still have fun if only people bothered to come and actually play the game.

VS’ WvW has never been this full… 4-hour-queues and still counting

ibra.2317:

azizul.8469:

i think the queue bug is still around

few days ago i tried to get into EB, but was put to queue. then i checked the map and i saw our side was totally wipe, green took all our towers, camps and keep, as if we have no one was there….. not long after that WvW crashed, i couldn’t get to any borderland….

totally agree….and i wonder how servers like vizunah square enter the wvw in a huge numbers….dont they suppose to get queued as well ?!!

If ONE server should complain about queues, it’s VS. Since SFR is dead (<=> free exploration/bags/gold for the server), we have about 4 hours+ each evening, and since it’s holidays in France, about 1h+ during the day.

So please…

eldain stenlund.4306:

Iam talking about PvP and WvW.

pve is braindead enough as it is.

Yeah, let’s completly ignore a major part of the game, right. As for WvW, saying a guardian cannot “guard” just proves how bad you must be with this class… I have heard loads of BS, but this one, I would have never thought I could read it once. Just LOL…

By the way, you should suggest to rename the thiefs, since they do not steal anything…

eldain stenlund.4306:

Lalangamena.3694:

several ways the guardian guards its party members
1) protection boon which gives the party members 30% damage reduction.
2) aegis boon, which blocks incoming attack on all party members.
3) stability, which guards the party members from all kinds of wicked CC .
4) wall of reflection, protect the party members behind the wall from all projectiles.
5) sanctuary, protect the party members from “foes and projectiles”
6)shield of the avenger, protect the party from damage inside the shield
7) protectors strike, protects nearby allies with shield (small AOE block around the guardian)
8) shield of absorption, push back foes and protect allies from projectiles.
9) ring of warding and line of warding, protects the party members from enemies.

probably more, but i am to lazy to write everything….

1) protection. People move around. making symbols on ground crap.
2) aegis boon. 60 and 90 Sec CD. for 1 hit use each. any kind of hit.
3) stability. 30 sec cd. 5 sec use. Useable.
4) wall of reflection. Above, and Side still vulnerable. and people move.
5) sanctuary. 2 MIN CD ??? for 6 second use.. seriously.
6)shield of the avenger. 60 second cd..
7) protectors strike. First attack, you or ally get, it disapears.
8) shield of absorption 40 second CD.. for 4 sec shield… crap.
9) ring of warding. to slow animation. need a root to make it work, hence obsolete.

Thats what i see.

1) It does not make symbols crap, it just means your group is not really clever
2) Which is basically like a free dodge on all attack. On of the best spell in game
3) Not even useable, it’s great
4) Again, one of the best spell in the game. If your group does move aside the wall, then find another group. Anyone playing often with guardians know how wonderful this spell is. (Who said grawls fractal ?!)
5) Awesome on certain boss (who said Big Tom ?)
6) So what ? Temporize, this game is not only about using spells to reduce damages, you can run/dodge
7) Basically a free aegis on any spell with a very short CD. Wonderful spell again
8) Awesome initiator for light combo + great way to free an over-aggroed ally
9) My must-have spell in WvW combined with Hammer.

I suggest you change class, you just don’t get it. Guardians do have some crappy spells, but NONE of them are in your list.

As for calling it guardian, I only play with supporting spells (it depends on the situation, but usually Wall of Reflection + Hold The Line/Shield of avenger/Sanctuary + Stand your ground), I have a build which makes that everytime I do a critical hit, I heal my allies, and since I got more than 50% critical chance, it does proc very well. Basically, I “guard” my allies, whatever you can say…

I bought the entire supply of lodestone yesterday for Infinite Light. There was 251 left when I purchased them, and the supply remained to about 10 for the next 30 mins. I don’t think we should decrease the drop rate

My GM got 10 clovers on 20 tries (recipe for 10 clovers). So basically, 1/20 success rate.

Just finished Infinite Light, which looks really nice with my Flameseeker shield. I know it’s not a legendary, but I guess it’s still a hard weapon to get <3

Sjaakie.1470:

Nachtz.4930

In the middle of the night when there are only 4 you can not call anyone because all 4 were there, ever thought of that? And I am not trying to tell you what to do, so stop telling me what to do when you do not even seem to know the whole point. Running from fights and go for a none challenge of a door is anti-gaming. Running around with 70+ and as soon as there is some resistance (from just 4) turning around and take an empty tower, that is just a shame. Too me it means that you are not willing to play a game against others, you just want to play against static things. Running around with 70+ is fine with me (everyone his own fun) but withdrawing from fights against outmanned opponents to go somewhere with no opponent is evidence enough for me.

About your coverage, that was my point. If we were 70+ and you were 4, then you don’t have enough coverage to compete. That’s not really a reproach, I can understand it, people have a life, etc, but in France it’s holidays for 3 weeks in a row (1 week/part of France). However, whatever the skill, a high coverage is one of the key to win. Maybe they should lower the tick during night.

As for the “shame part”, you really think the commander decided to take another keep because you were 4 in defense vs a 70+ blob ? In all seriousness, do you believe in your own words ? 4 people or 0 is exactly the same thing. It would not have been “playing vs others”, you would have died in a matter of milliseconds. If you were 30+ and we were 70, I would agree with you, and I would reckon the commander took a coward decision. If you were really 4, I think it had 0 impact on the decision of the commander… If you have 0 fun this week, keep in mind it’s the same for most of us.

Oranisagu.3706:

Nachtz.4930:

I bet I earn far more money/day than you, whereas I never run CoF P1 anymore. I take the bet

That’s the problem with this dungeon, people forgot that there’s plenty other ways to farm gold, and these are far more entertaining… It really needs a revamp, it needs to be harder : it should not be possible to rush accross the bridge, and the mini-boss near the pillar (room before the boss) should have to be killed for the boss door to open. That would be possible solutions, but I’ll let Anet decide on those ones.

For all people thinking CoF P1 is the only way to have easy gold, I just want to say “L2P”. For those who don’t see any point in revamping this dungeon, I just want to say “find another game, you don’t get it”.

sorry, ripping off other players or as it’s also called playing the market, doesn’t sound fun to me. if I want to play against others, I’ll go wvw or pvp and face them, griefing them with the market is quite far from what I enjoy or think is good for the game. (I’m sorry, I’m swiss, and not that good at hypocrisy – I can’t just change my morals to find something ok as soon as I see it’s profitable)

[B]currently, there’s no way of normal play which makes more money than CoF1 farming (not even the bugged orr events, though they can come close). [/B]other dungeons are rather lucrative, CoF quite often drops cores/lodestones which are worth a bit, but all in all CoF gives more. and even then it’s way too less, compared to the prices of stuff. wanna try a new build? buy 14+ items (depends on 2h/1h weps) for 3-4 gold each, yay..

if there was a way to make money just playing the game, you would’ve posted it instead of the hehe, I know something you don’t kinda post you made – which most often only means someone found a loophole which he doesn’t want to be closed, so he keeps it secret.

but yeah, if I could play in any zone and also get t5/t6 mats, get yellows often enough and also an exo from time to time, I’d love that. I rather dislike CoF1 farming, after 6 runs I just can’t take it anymore.

tl;dr: nerfing cof is not the way to go, pushing general pve and other dungeons and adjusting loot drops is the only thing necessary.

Ignorance is bliss… Mystic forge + market speculation is by far more profitable, and (to me) less boring. Market speculation takes time to be accustomed to, but I think it’s really fun because it’s really risky. You can lose everything like you can win lots of money very quickly. But once you’re used to it, it’s just free money… As for mystic forge, weapons such as Volcanus are really a gold mine. You just need a high amount of cash to start

Sjaakie.1470:

@Nachtz.4930

Ehm .. are we suppose to run instantly because we are just 4? We simply tried whatever we could. But from your words I can conclude that you rather have none opponent than 4, and that is why I call it anti-gaming. You are the perfect example of it.

Xispeo.1706

Guess I got to believe you if you say there are others doing it too. I never saw it and do not see any valid reason to say: They do it, so we should do it too and I do not expect you to be able of changing things on your own. And why should you change, the server seems to like it, why change things that you like?

No, you’re supposed to tell the commander that the VS group is going to take [insert point here], then your troops should gather and impact them. Your post doesn’t make any sense, because it tells the exact opposite of what other people from your server are saying. The biggest reproach made towards VS is that we only fight when we outnumber our opponent and that it’s not possible to progress with small groups (like guild raids) since we always have a 50+ blob crushing everything (so does SFR and Desolation, but well it’s seems it’s forbidden to say that). Right. So now, you’re reproaching us not to attack your group of 4 defenders ? May you find an agreement with your mates on what should VS do ? We can’t attack smaller groups because it’s 0 fun (cf. previous pages), but we must attack them instead of going to empty point because it’s “anti-gaming” (your example)? Come on…

Really I don’t see your point. You were 4, you would have vanished from the map in like 2 seconds, your example is just plain worthless…

Sjaakie.1470:

Xispeo.1706

It wasn’t meant as complain, it was my personal point of view and a fact. 4 people defending and a whole blob of more than 70 turned around to go for an empty place. Comeon, even people from French can understand that it has nothing to do with competition anymore. No problem if you enjoy that way of playing but I (again personaly) hope never ever there will be a another server who is going to play like that. You can’t help it that there are only 4 opponents, you can however decide not to run and play a game instead of going for static door banging. And that is what happened, not once, not twice but most of the time and that is why I (once again personaly) call it anti-gaming, even a shame to the gamersworld. Being top server and playing like that is a disgrace.

I don’t get it… What did you want to do with your 4 defenders vs a 70+ blob anyway ? If the commander decided to keep another point instead of this one, it’s SURELY not because you were 4 in defense…

Moreover, if we took your point, here is what would have happened on the forum “VS are cowards, they blob 70+ vs 4 defenders”. Just see the 70+ previous pages.

monkeydluffy.7896:

No to revamp, this game is terrible when it comes to making money. You nerf the only way to make money? then were gonna be forced to farm something else so nerfing this wont do anything.

I bet I earn far more money/day than you, whereas I never run CoF P1 anymore. I take the bet

That’s the problem with this dungeon, people forgot that there’s plenty other ways to farm gold, and these are far more entertaining… It really needs a revamp, it needs to be harder : it should not be possible to rush accross the bridge, and the mini-boss near the pillar (room before the boss) should have to be killed for the boss door to open. That would be possible solutions, but I’ll let Anet decide on those ones.

For all people thinking CoF P1 is the only way to have easy gold, I just want to say “L2P”. For those who don’t see any point in revamping this dungeon, I just want to say “find another game, you don’t get it”.

Drew.1865:

lothefallen.7081:

This is the problem that removing roles creates. Without defined roles to help structure combat and content, the classes with the most utility and optimal skills are just flat out undeniably more viable than the rest.

Example: Time Warp, Portal, etc.

Arguably, these skills are some of the most useful skills in the game. Does Guardian or Ranger have an Elite or Utility that is even half as effective or role-creating as Portal or Time Warp? Not really. The imbalance lies in the lack of distinction of roles and the disparity between skill favor. Aside from Wall Of Reflection, what Guardian utilities can you really say are as useful as Portal? Elites as useful as Time Warp? Absolutely none and it’s even worse for Ranger. ArenaNet needs to devote more resources into correcting these problems.

The gaurdian heal elite is amazing but other than that the class is extremely boring. Mesmer and Ele are by far the most fun IMO.

And I think the exact opposite. I think the guardian is by far the funniest class to play. Different tastes maybe eh.

Sjaakie.1470:

I personaly do not hope that SFR or Deso or any other server creates whatever to match up again. Will mean there are even more people sitting in towers and trebuchet all day long and wait till everyone on the BL stacked up and rush to a broken wall. Will be a very dynamic game. :s.

And before you think I think that other server do not blob you are wrong. I know they do. Even SFR who always complain about blobs does nothing else than spam chat with things like: “All on commander”, “join teamspeak to follow commander”. Probably they will say because they are forced to or to rebuild the community and teach people but still, they create their own blobs.

To give you an example about how boring it is to play against Vizunah. Last night they took Durios with a blob of at least 70 people while only 4 defending. Than they went for the keep and to be sure they would get in they even took golems. Than they went for Langor with the whole blob. Most likely still aware that there were just 4 of us. They could not even take it, used balista’s, arrowcarts, trebuchets and did not manage to take it. Guess what, the turned around and ran all towards Bravost because there was most likely noone, and so they could take it without getting damage. Than all back to the keep and start trebbing again to Langor. All that just because of 4 opponents. It shows to me that Vizunah does not want to compete.

If you really had 4 people, then it’s time for your server to drop tier. Because whatever people may say, coverage is a very important part in WvW, and a T1 server needs more than 4 people defending in prime. Don’t think we have fun caping points so easily, but that’s free karma/xp/gold. But would you prefer us not to take your points so you keep scoring ? What would be the point, a virtual T1 for-ever-position ? I hope we get a real opponent next week (nothing mean here, SFR lost all its guilds, that’s why)… Sadly, SFR won’t drop this week…

Here is my guardian :

Sebulon.7683:

I think Charged Lodestones are fine, but I agree that the other lodestones should be just as hard to get and expensive.

And legendaries should be rare, I don’t want any Scavenger hunt either for the precursors. Soon everyone will be walking around with one, that’s no fun.

I think they are as hard to get, if we only take the drop rate into account. Fusion lodestones seem easier to farm, simply because you can drop them easily in CoF, which takes 10 min to run. CoE does give a lot of charged core/lodestones too, yet it does take more than 10min to be completed. But just go the temple and farm fire elementals, I bet you won’t get more fusion lodestones than people farming charged lodestones on air elementals.

As for the price, it’s a matter of offer and demand. If Sunrise and Bolt required Fusion lodestones, they would cost about 3 gold each.

So I will create a post to ask ANet to reduce the drop rate of precursors in the Mystic Forge, since I already got plenty of them.

“That’s my own farming experience”.

Charged lodestones are rare enough, they are a pain in the *ss to farm for someone who doesn’t want to use the TP, which requires several months of farming for most dedicated players (if you don’t want to spend gold, again).

Bananasmile.4126:

Actually, one of my disappointments in WvW is that it feels so “detached” from the rest of the game. I mean, for instance, what does owning a castle have anything to do with the Elder Dragons? There’s 0 connection to it all. Why are servers even fighting? There’s no purpose, it’s there for the sake of having that particular RvR mechanic. It would be a lot better if they connect WvW to a certain lore in the game and work new contents based off that. There should be a connection or even story behind each tower or keep or anything that would make players feel that they are part of the lore still. Right now, WvW does feel a separate game already…and I think it’s one of its flaws at the moment. But I feel ANET will do something about it in the future, it’s an obvious opportunity that they can improve on later on.

Your score in WvW has impact on PVE. You can find them on “Your world’s bonuses” when you display the current WvW score. And I think the bonuses are pretty cool…

I feel wierd with my 2300+ toughness… I will post my char tonight

Sjaakie.1470:

Can someone from Vizunah please explain what is somuch fun about running with the whole server in one large group while there are not even 15 people of the opponent in the map? I can see the social aspect about doing things together but I would be pretty bored running around with 100+ and have nothing else to do than run after some blue icon and dps a gate and every now and than an opponent which is heavily outnumbered. Since you are doing it the whole week there must be something that really is exciting about it and I am curious to know what that is.

Holidays.

munkiman.3068:

Nachtz.4930:

Nachtz.4930:

munkiman.3068:

Nachtz.4930:

munkiman.3068:

Nachtz.4930:

Rashka.7304:

Orangensaft.7139:

Rashka.7304:

Rashka.7304:

Currently i am at 508 rares (19 exo back) and 1408 exotics, no precursor yet.

Up to 624 rares (28 exo back) and 1472 exotics, still no precursor.

both of you spent over 1400 exotics ?

thats like 3000 gold which is like 5-7 precursors depending on which one…

That is naive fallacy because you are not taking everything into account. So far my loss in gold is smaller than the cost of the precursor on TP…

Up to 700 rares (29 exo) and 1476 exotics btw. That was a bad streak of 76 rares and only 1 exo back.

As far as I have been told, the 4 weapons you have to throw in the Mystic Toilet have to have the same stats between eachothers. At least, that’s the only way it worked for me (already got 3 precursors for less than 80 gold, working on my 4th now). It has not been confirmed by any official statement, but that’s what my experience (and my guildies’) say, I may be wrong though. So in your case, what did you throw in the forge ?

This is actually statistically impossible, no matter how lucky, no one is getting 3 pre for 80g… Check your numbers again.

I actually get better exotics back for mixed stats than i do for same stats, on average. But then again i can go awhile and not see an exotic either.

31 tries for Dawn, 3 for The Chosen, and 24 for the Leaf of Kudzu. Only with the cheapest rare items.

Less than 80 gold, I had not more in my purse anyway… Keep your stats for you, luck and statistics are not made to be mixed up.

I guess you’re right, you are one lucky person.

Just had The Legend yesterday for 21 gold (I didn’t count how much tries, but it should be quite easy to count). I gave it to a member of my guild. 4 precursors for less than 100 gold now, let’s keep on the good work

Update : got Dusk in 17 tries and the Lover in 4 tries.

I think I found something, but I won’t say it eh.

If you found something… You should probably share it. Either way it’s not really going to hurt you if people know some mystic forge secret lurking about. I still have my doubts about your luck though, unless you’ve really stumbled on some trick.

I know the named rares (shortbow, longbow, staff, sword, etc.) are said to yield better results, but i’ve yet to see it.

First I’ll help my guildies getting their legendaries (already gave 4 precursors), then I may sell some others so I can get quite rich, and I will eventually tell what I found. Maybe what I found does not exist and the only factor is my luck, but well, let me believe

Zumy.6318:

What is SAB?

/15

Super Adventure Box. Digging at the right place + having a big purse can make the farm of Obsidian shards really, really easy. You may find many links on YouTube, I think the best is the one called “6000+ baubles per hour” or something like this.

Cottage Pie.6215:

Hmm, viz morning zerging again.

70+ players and 9 golems (and a fly hacker) Vs 10-13 people max.

yeah….

Holidays

I remember scoring +0 vs Elona’s Reach when it was holidays in Germany. No big deal… Oh and we have a great system in France, basically 3 zones with 1 week holiday each, but not at the same time. So during 3 weeks, it will keep going.

DoggyPaddler.3586:

Got my Colossus two days ago, believe it or not about the 6th or 7th try… thought it was going to be a few month process gambling with the forge to get my precursor, but got it the second day of trying.

Right now just doing the 10 recipe for t6 mats, got about about 120 clovers, the extra clovers will just goto my next legendary, the t6 mats are definitely the roughest part in my case anyway.

Also obsidian shards aren’t bought from npc, there from orrian boxes, (make gold, get obsidian shards for more t6 mats, and get lodestones to sell or put towards legendary… thats a win-win-win)

SAB is the best way to farm Obsidian Shards btw. I farmed my 250 shards in about 3 days

Ze Dos Cavalos.6132:

I hate everyone here, especially you Nachtz

That was mean

Jackie.1829:

Nachtz.4930:

When I was in Afghanistan, hopefully my commander was not like you ! “Hey guys, it’s war, we are here to fight, just rush and kill anything you can, TP Valley if you die”.

Yes I am comparing WvW with real life, but I think they have many things in common. And not fighting when you don’t have the advantage is one. I think you misunderstood the concept of WvW. What you’re talking is open PvP, which WvW is NOT.

If I extend your analogy, you claim wvw is like war, and yet.. war is not fun, so by comparison wvw as it is…. you guessed it.

Sorry, I play a game to fight other players because that is where the fun is at, not play makeshift war. War employs underhanded tactics because people want it to end, gaming is hardly something close to comparable.

Not fighting when you dont have the advantage is a good idea, your aim should then be to get the advantage. However, getting the advantage should not somehow involve capping everything while the enemy isnt even logged into the game.

But, whatever floats your boat.

I have more fun playing like we are doing than doing 50v50 fights where only lags matters. Sorry

But well, there would be a great mod for you guys : EB without anything but an open field. The only way to score would be to kill people. Here you go.

Oh wait, that’s open PvP.

Aneu.1748:

Bondurant.1540:

Aneu.1748:

Well you can see the trend that is occurring at the moment. People don’t want to be in the same match-up that Vizunah is in at the because its so stale! If their aim is to bore the kitten out of their opponents then they are achieving it quite spectacularly.

Now its more of a fight between Deso and SFR to see who drops down first because fighting in T1 is just so “meh”.

Fighting for points is now such a waste of time especially in Tier 1 since it essentially comes down to who night caps the best (and being blunt here, I am in no way going to give up my nights/early mornings to win in a coverage battle) so we are once again focusing on killing the blobs instead of taking the points. It would be better if said blobs didn’t run away so much but we will take what we can get.

Congrats to Vizunah on returning to the easy win method, thanks for not going into your towers as fast as you were previously but this new tactics of dual/tripple veiling in order to get from your spawn to your spawn towers (Vizunah Borderland) is really quite saddening.

To be honest you’re blaming people because they’re playing the game like it’s intended. You’re saying Vizunah sickens other servers because they’re playing for points instead of arranging PvP encounters on open field. Fair enough. But blaming them for that is like blaming people for ozone layer depletion because they buy polluting cars. If you want to take care of the problem, you’d better try fixing the cars instead of asking people not buying them.

The game is as it is. You can blame it, you can criticize it, you can call it a baby-pvp-game-favorizing-lemming-gameplay when you win by avoiding fights and cap objectives. You can say whatever you want about GuildWars 2, I’ll probably agree with you on most points. But you can’t really blame people because they run the game by the rules and not by your rules.

I was under the impression that WvW was meant for people to fight each-other… how foolish of me.

When I was in Afghanistan, hopefully my commander was not like you ! “Hey guys, it’s war, we are here to fight, just rush and kill anything you can, TP Valley if you die”.

Yes I am comparing WvW with real life, but I think they have many things in common. And not fighting when you don’t have the advantage is one. I think you misunderstood the concept of WvW. What you’re talking is open PvP, which WvW is NOT.

Hi there,

I was wondering if you guys did already find a viable use for the torch.

To me, the only (and pretty obvious) one would be in PvP, if you are playing a burning-based build. A build with GS + Scepter/Torch for instance. However, it seems even with this build, people prefer Shield over Torch. As for PvE, no idea…

Does anyone of you play with this weapon ? If yes, why, if no, why not ?

Thank you

Nachtz.4930:

munkiman.3068:

Nachtz.4930:

munkiman.3068:

Nachtz.4930:

Rashka.7304:

Orangensaft.7139:

Rashka.7304:

Rashka.7304:

Currently i am at 508 rares (19 exo back) and 1408 exotics, no precursor yet.

Up to 624 rares (28 exo back) and 1472 exotics, still no precursor.

both of you spent over 1400 exotics ?

thats like 3000 gold which is like 5-7 precursors depending on which one…

That is naive fallacy because you are not taking everything into account. So far my loss in gold is smaller than the cost of the precursor on TP…

Up to 700 rares (29 exo) and 1476 exotics btw. That was a bad streak of 76 rares and only 1 exo back.

As far as I have been told, the 4 weapons you have to throw in the Mystic Toilet have to have the same stats between eachothers. At least, that’s the only way it worked for me (already got 3 precursors for less than 80 gold, working on my 4th now). It has not been confirmed by any official statement, but that’s what my experience (and my guildies’) say, I may be wrong though. So in your case, what did you throw in the forge ?

This is actually statistically impossible, no matter how lucky, no one is getting 3 pre for 80g… Check your numbers again.

I actually get better exotics back for mixed stats than i do for same stats, on average. But then again i can go awhile and not see an exotic either.

31 tries for Dawn, 3 for The Chosen, and 24 for the Leaf of Kudzu. Only with the cheapest rare items.

Less than 80 gold, I had not more in my purse anyway… Keep your stats for you, luck and statistics are not made to be mixed up.

I guess you’re right, you are one lucky person.

Just had The Legend yesterday for 21 gold (I didn’t count how much tries, but it should be quite easy to count). I gave it to a member of my guild. 4 precursors for less than 100 gold now, let’s keep on the good work

Update : got Dusk in 17 tries and the Lover in 4 tries.

I think I found something, but I won’t say it eh.

Cottage Pie.6215:

Nachtz.4930:

Cottage Pie.6215:

Nachtz.4930:

Angelyne.2936:

I didn’t found anybody to say that VS is boring to play with, when that was SFR who was 1st. I guess it’s might be related to what side is winning.

SFR and Deso are, as well, boring to play because of monozerg steamroll fashion. Very often, when we meet a group a a size similar of our (around 30) they run away. when they stop, you know that their “main bandwagon” is somewhere close.

Don’t forget, we are French cowards, they are war heroes, so what your are saying is wrong. We are always running with 100+ blobs while they are 10 on the map. They have 2 hours queues, but they are always outnumbered. They never run away, but the only thing we see from us is their back. They dislike siege, but set 10 catapults to take a T1.

Don’t mess with their logic, you may hurt them.

Prove this (you can’t as you are both lying), or shut up. Anyone is free to guest on Deso and see the real deal.

I’ll be loading up fraps, and I’ll be back over the next week with a few hard examples, just to counter lying smacktalk posts like yours.

You lie so much because you feel no sense of achievement in your score as it was mostly done against vastly outmanned foes in hellish lagfests. When the numbers are equal (last night):

So you want to prove me your server and SFR never use blobs and never set 10+ cata for 1 point and never run away through FRAPSing your own POV ? How great. Prepare a 3-week-long video then, with different POVs, because you can’t be on all maps at the same time. I never said we are not blobbing nor that we are over-sieging positions. I say you are doing it too, huge difference.

As for posting screenshots, I think there are 2 kinds of players : people who play for fun, and people who do eveything for the atmosphere here to keep being toxic. I belong to the first part. I see a blob from an opponent server ? I won’t take a screenshot and post it here, it’s worthless, anyone does that, this topic would be 1000+ pages for now. The only screenshots I take is to report hackers. You belong the 2nd part. Your only motivation is to keep the atmosphere toxic here.

Oh and don’t be so proud about this screenshot. SFR gave you a free 2nd position this week, and look at the current score. How great…

Yes I’ve posted a few screenies in the forum of attempted tower flipping hackers over the past few weeks but got infracted, sigh. Still, have to raise awareness of these things.

And no, I want you to prove it because you made the claims. That’s how it works.

But oh, you’ve gone all soft and ‘appealing to the masses’ on me now, saying I make the forum toxic, yet it is you who posts; “They have 2 hours queues, but they are always outnumbered. They never run away, but the only thing we see from us is their back. They dislike siege, but set 10 catapults to take a T1.” A complete nonsensical string of lies, deliberate misapprehensions and the very definition of toxic as it spawns posts correcting it (which you then call toxic..lol).

You just don’t like the fact I take screenshots do you because you can’t lie your way out of them. You think I don’t play for fun? Yes I can be abrasive and a bit too intense at times, having to type everything makes it seem so…angry and direct, but why would I be inside WvW if I wasn’t finding somewhere to have fun? I’m the one on the superior Ballista at Speldans, killing groups of viz attackers for an hour+ this morning. I do what I can, I know the points game was lost from the start. If you ever fought outnumbered 5:1 and more you’d understand that seigezerging wooden towers isn’t the only thing in WvW.

So now I’ll take screenshots each time I see a blob from Deso or SFR or when they try to capture a T1 with all their supply in siege weapons, I’ll post them each time, people will answer by posting theirs about VS doing the same thing, this topic will go to 1000+ pages, but at least, you’ll have your proof.

Everything I say about your server happens in mine. The difference is that I don’t try to deny it. You should do the same, your denial is just pathetic.

Cottage Pie.6215:

Nachtz.4930:

Angelyne.2936:

I didn’t found anybody to say that VS is boring to play with, when that was SFR who was 1st. I guess it’s might be related to what side is winning.

SFR and Deso are, as well, boring to play because of monozerg steamroll fashion. Very often, when we meet a group a a size similar of our (around 30) they run away. when they stop, you know that their “main bandwagon” is somewhere close.

Don’t forget, we are French cowards, they are war heroes, so what your are saying is wrong. We are always running with 100+ blobs while they are 10 on the map. They have 2 hours queues, but they are always outnumbered. They never run away, but the only thing we see from us is their back. They dislike siege, but set 10 catapults to take a T1.

Don’t mess with their logic, you may hurt them.

Prove this (you can’t as you are both lying), or shut up. Anyone is free to guest on Deso and see the real deal.

I’ll be loading up fraps, and I’ll be back over the next week with a few hard examples, just to counter lying smacktalk posts like yours.

You lie so much because you feel no sense of achievement in your score as it was mostly done against vastly outmanned foes in hellish lagfests. When the numbers are equal (last night):

So you want to prove me your server and SFR never use blobs and never set 10+ cata for 1 point and never run away through FRAPSing your own POV ? How great. Prepare a 3-week-long video then, with different POVs, because you can’t be on all maps at the same time. I never said we are not blobbing nor that we are over-sieging positions. I say you are doing it too, huge difference.

As for posting screenshots, I think there are 2 kinds of players : people who play for fun, and people who do eveything for the atmosphere here to keep being toxic. I belong to the first part. I see a blob from an opponent server ? I won’t take a screenshot and post it here, it’s worthless, anyone does that, this topic would be 1000+ pages for now. The only screenshots I take is to report hackers. You belong the 2nd part. Your only motivation is to keep the atmosphere toxic here.

Oh and don’t be so proud about this screenshot. SFR gave you a free 2nd position this week, and look at the current score. How great…