Guild Wars 2

Right now shatter mesmers mostly take GS/Staff or GS and S/T. Staff is used to stay max range and torch is used for stealth disengage. Both are good, just depends on your playstyle.

pushes aside the mountains of dead mesmer corpses at the hands of s/d thieves

Hello,

I main mesmer, and S/D has made it hell for a good while now. Don’t get me wrong, I dislike all of you equally as a class, but acro S/D was the worst. I briefly learned thief and played it for my team, and when I did it was S/D acro. I was quite surprised to hear that instead of nerfing the main culprit (acrobatics), they were nerfing the weapon set instead.

I would not want GS or staff for mesmer to be gutted, and I am sorry your weaponset was hurt. But S/D as it used to be was plain awful ,and it felt dirty to play, and felt even worse to play against. Unfortunately the problems are still there, acro is still way too many dodges, and fire and air are still bs. Hopefully they eventually see that and make some decent changes.

But I would like to tip my fedora to good guy Marvin and agree to what he said. Basically yall are going to have to adapt! Last time I watched sizer, he still claimed S/D was op. Maybe it it still is, and you just have to play it differently?

I for one welcome back our d/p overlords, please have mercy on my back.

-Dusk

Yea its not looking too good for mesmers. With the lyssa nerf (which is def needed) and the vigor nerf, our survivability is really getting hit. I am really hoping the new sigils and runes make a difference, but I am pretty sure I am going to have to stick with lyssa. Though I do look forward to knights and buffed celestial.

If they would tone down thieves just a tad, I think the shatter mesmer would be in a good spot.

The current mesmer meta has an immune every 46 seconds with the double bounce being taken now. Very few of the top mesmers run sword, but run staff for the ability to kite.

These meta builds literally have zero condi clear, and can be killed by one condi burst. The changes you suggest would destroy mesmer, as immune is one of the few defenses we have from burst, as we are usually a priority target. Also, mesmer is not considered viable on its own, but only with a thief. So that means that taking a mesmer reduces the flexibility of a team.

You may see lots of mesmers in EU, but in NA they are not in the majority at all due to the sustain specs that are preferred. If anything, fire and air sigils need to be nerfed, but please leave shatter alone.

Also, how hard is it to see clones running at you?

There is a difference between peasants and kings. Lord Helseth is the best mesmer multiverse.

welp, ele is more viable than mesmer now. gg

#mesmerdownstateclass

Please Karl, I want to believe.

xDudisx.5914:

Be hard or easy to play also is not a good argument. The balance should be done based on how the best players perform with the class not how the normal or bad player perform. No class should be broken and king of 1v1 just because it is “harder” to play.

King of 1v1s?
Dude, a shatter mesmer should not really be 1v1ing. Also, with that logic then every class should be nerfed because there is at least one person for each class who is incredible at what they do. Sounds like you need to roll a mesmer and learn how to play it so you can better understand how to counter it. Or you could just roll a thief and gg.

I am gonna be honest and say my morale is at 0. What did we really get from this feature patch again? Nerfs. Thieves still rip me apart, I have only one condi clear (null field) at the expense of decoy. I am not sure if it would even be worth it for me to stay mesmer for the ToL. I could run engi and be far more useful. This is my favorite class, but it kind of sucks.

/rant