Guild Wars 2

I just tried again and it worked. Looks like they finally got around to fixing the client issue

Ok I tried deleting the bin folder but it hasn’t changed anything. I will try making a shortcut tomorrow but if that doesn’t work then I’ll just have to give up. Noone from ANet has gotten back to me and it’s been about 24 hours. Sigh

Gothica.6718:

SheiyeSai.6037:

I was playing when the latest patch hit, but was unable to update. Now about 10 hours later I still can’t update, or even log in to my client for that matter, due to this message:

“A serious error has occurred that prevents the program from continuing to run. You can help us prevent this error from occurring in the future be reporting it to ArenaNet. Please press the Send button to report this error”

I sent a report. Still can’t log in to my client.

yep i’m haveing this problem as well it did the update then got stuck on the initializing stage then 10 minutes later i got the connection error(s) detected. Retrying… and i had no net drop outs otherwise i couldn’t post this O.o

I really hope they address this problem soon. It’s now been about 15 hours and I still can’t open the client…

I was playing when the latest patch hit, but was unable to update. Now about 10 hours later I still can’t update, or even log in to my client for that matter, due to this message:

“A serious error has occurred that prevents the program from continuing to run. You can help us prevent this error from occurring in the future be reporting it to ArenaNet. Please press the Send button to report this error”

I sent a report. Still can’t log in to my client.

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

Perhaps, you could find it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCHVIUEjzO0

Good luck.

FOUND IT. It’s called “A Land Restored”. Thank you

I think the largos are insanely interesting. Not only are they visually similar to dark elves (and who knows, maybe this is GW’s version) but they have a social structure that is based on their status being determined by how good they are in combat and the kinds of creatures they can bring down (reminds me of Predator actually) which are kind of like a trophy.
They’re like underwater ninja-assassin Predator dark elves! To me this is a lot more interesting than most of the other races, some of which come across as quite bland (humans, I’m looking at you).

Just wondering whether anyone could help me find a song from the in-game soundtrack. It’s an ambient track which features a chorus of singers in a similar style to Enya or the elves from the Lord of the Rings soundtracks. If you could give me any info I’d really appreciate it!

and let’s not forget that uncomfortable scene involving Faolain, Caithe and a tribe of peaceful centaurs…

Glint had to be freed from the control of Kralk, but how do we know that the Pale Tree seed wasn’t freed from the control of Mordremoth after it was taken from the cave and planted at the gravesite? We don’t. If it was somehow freed from Mordy’s control at that point, then this would explain a lot about the sylvari as PC’s and it would fit with the theory that ED Champions (and maybe even ED’s themselves) are capable of free will/fighting their intended purpose to become friend instead of foe

If they updated Orr they would also have to update the personal story to reflect the changes

Jora or Livia
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Korval.3751:

7 MONTHS AGO… I WAS RIGHT! All of you bashed me for saying the sylvari are servants of Mordremoth. Now who has pie on their face?

I know what the pale tree is. The Pale Tree was suppose to be the Champion of Mordremoth but it became like Glint. All the servants of Mordremoth, namely the Sylvari, are the offspring the Pale Tree spawned not only to protect herself but also fight against Mordremoth. This is why the sylvari cannot be corrupted by other elder dragons. They are essentially owned by Mordremoth.

Wow, even after everything was spelled out for you in the LS finale, you STILL got it wrong…
Go back and play through the last part again.

“Within the Dream is a nightmare, tugging at the heart of each sylvari” I got this quote from the wiki http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Dream_of_Dreams
My opinion on this topic is that the Dream, which as far as we know is unique to the Pale Tree, was created due to the seed being planted on a human gravesite. Whether this means that it is actually tapping into the Mists, the ‘ether’ or life force of Tyria or something else, this would mean that the Nightmare is separate from it, as it is caused by a Dragon (his will attempting to exert itself over them). So in essence, the Pale Tree/Dream = free will, Mordy/the Nightmare = corruption

What I was trying to get at is that perhaps “Break, Blaze, Judgement, Sabotage” or “Asura, Orrian, Local, Attack” is the deciphered message

I just started playing a sylvari and was immediately blown away by how, right at the start, you fight the Shadow of the Dragon. Of course, back then you the character would have had no idea of its significance, but still, my mind is now blown..

Not sure if this helps at all but the description for some of these items seem to be instructions relayed as key words http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Order_of_Whispers_Secret_Code

When you compare the actions of Vorpp to those of someone we know from history, like Hitler, you start to get a better glimpse into the asura psyche

Okay, so it’s Wynne and another random sylvari. I didn’t freeze the video and scrutinize each frame. My bad.

Kormir would never expect you to kill a child. That hypothetical is ridiculous. And she is not about “justice above all else” which would make her a zealot or extremist, but order, spirit and truth which is fairly important in discerning her character. It would imply that not only would she be able to immediately discern the truth of the situation, but she would likely see the child’s spirit and know that they only stole to feed their family, but it would also imply that to be a guardian devoted to Kormir, you would be one who is willing to sacrifice themselves for others, to stand in front of others and act as a wall of protection, to be wise and able to discern the truth in situations and to be observant of the people around you, as opposed to a follower of Dwayna who would probably be more of a healer and support type guardian (and I can’t be bothered going into the characteristics but you get the picture)

I don’t think it’s related to the Hall of Heroes at all, but I do think there’s a good chance that the next installment of the LS will make reference to the Hall of Ascension and the Crystal Desert. Another couple of things to note are that the wurm is encased in Jade, which could be a hint at how Mordremoth can be defeated, and the other thing is there is a sylvari with Caithe in the video who as far as I know, hasn’t appeared before, soooooo new character? Maybe she’s the secret Caithe’s been hiding? The speculation is killing me

Cuddy.6247:

I doubt Anise would ever turn out to be a foe. I’m just wondering what her angle is.

Redenaz.8631:

Generally, I don’t trust Anise. I’m willing to believe that she puts the Queen’s welfare above everything else, but ever since she pointedly left Logan out of planning the Queen’s protection while planning her jubilee celebration, I’ve wondered if she might be too paranoid to be dependable, at least for everyone who isn’t the Queen. It’s one thing to avoid leaks, but it’s another to keep relevant, proven people (Logan, the captain of the Seraph in Divinity’s Reach) in the dark. She’s good at what she does, sure, but one person can only be so good.

As for her age, I don’t think it’s anything outlandish, if possibly older than she appears. I’ve heard suggestions that she’s Livia from GW1, but I’m skeptical, mostly because the switch from powerful necromancer to powerful mesmer seems very clumsy as a narrative. It seems unlike that she’d be a focused necromancer up for ~180 years, until her last appearance in 1256AE, and then spend the next ~60 years (Jennah’s coronation was in 1316AE) learning mesmer magic and relying on that instead.

Well, Livia could probably, certainly master more than one magic in her 180 years. Not only that, but she also had the Scepter of Orr – the environmental skills attached to weapons in GW2, as we can see with several Personal Story instances, are obviously pretty expansive. We have to remember, too, that the NPCs don’t necessarily follow the same rules as our PCs do – in GW1 some enemies even had up to three professions, and NPCs like Palawa Joko and Mad King Thorn had several elite skills. So perhaps she is just a necromancer with some powerful illusions at her disposal. There’s really no telling, when it’s all said and done, what Livia and/or Anise could be capable of as NPCs.

I’m hesitant to draw any direct Livia -> Anise conclusions as well, though. I’m wondering if maybe Livia is Anise’s mother? Nobody really knows anything about Anise’s past.

Sadly though, the reaction to Canach’s question about her age just seems like a trope to me. I’m just that salty when it comes to the writing, I don’t think there’s anything there other than a jab at the social construct where it’s rude to assume anyone with two X chromosomes is older than they are.

I’d be pretty disappointed in the writers if that comment was meant as a cliched “never ask a woman her age” type reference.

I love the theory that she is either Livia or related to Livia. That would be pretty awesome. I think there’s also a chance that she’s not even human. She can disguise herself as a sylvari, so what’s to stop her disguising herself as a human?

Also, maybe Anise is really Lys or Ilya in disguise! Wouldn’t THAT be a bombshell.

I agree with you that it’s more likely that it really is Caithe, since we’ve dealt with flashbacks related to her past. It would make little sense at this point for it to not be her.
As for Anise, I guess we will see in due time what she is up to with Canach and whether she is a friend or foe.

During the summit held at the Pale Tree in the LS episode “The Dragon’s Reach Pt 2”, you can eavesdrop on a conversation between Anise (who is disguised as a sylvari, which in itself is highly suspicious) and Canach:

Countess Anise: I think you overestimate the value of being first. A windfallen fruit has never appealed to me as much as one left on the bough to ripen.
Canach: You do keep those blades of yours keen, Countess.
Countess Anise: Forgive my meddling, petal. It’s just that I see such potential in you.
Canach: Petal? I fear you’ve only employed me in order to sharpen your wit–or work on your plant puns. Why not prove me wrong and tell me your true purpose?
Countess Anise: All in good time.
Canach: Do you treat everyone you encounter like children?
Countess Anise: (laugh) You are a delicate flower, aren’t you? So easily bruised…
Canach: I have a thick skin. I also learn from my missteps. For example, you fooled me once with your illusions, so now I wonder if you’re truly as young as–
Countess Anise: Do not finish that sentence. Not here, not ever.
Canach: At least, a substantial response.
Countess Anise: Yes, well. You would be wise to remember your place and check that tongue of yours.
Canach: When will you tell me why you brought me here?
Countess Anise: I’m trying to decide if I can trust you out in the field. I mean, after that nasty business on Southsun. Tsk.
Canach: Regardless of what you may believe, I was trying to free those refugees from the Consortium’s exploitation.
Canach: I went about it…poorly. Criminally. And I answered for my crimes.
Countess Anise: Your intentions in that affair, whether noble or not, aren’t what concern me. It’s your failure to evade capture.
Canach: I beg your pardon?
Countess Anise: Noble intentions don’t interest me. What I need is a sharp instrument. A knife that can be employed before anyone realizes it’s struck.
Canach: Show me where to cut, Countess, and I will be your blade.

and then after the fight with the Shadow of the Dragon:

Countess Anise: Very well, Canach. Playtime is over and you’ve passed your audition. You’re to go with them.
Canach: Why?
Countess Anise: I want you to learn what you can about the Pact’s plans. Follow them to their staging area.
Countess Anise: I need someone there I know can get the job done, and I believe you may be that someone.
Canach: I shall prove you correct. Until we meet again.

Any theories on what she’s up to? Any guesses at how old she really is? And if she can disguise herself as a sylvari, how can we really be certain that it was actually Caithe that stole the egg?

My 2 cents = #1. the color of Rytlock’s armor and the amount of spikes it has means nothing in regard to his moral compass. Yes it’s very black, but most Necros wear a lot of black, Marjory wears a lot of black, and they’re not evil. White equals good and black equals bad is a terrible and cliche way of denoting a characters alignment and I trust ANet enough to think they wouldn’t go down that path.
#2. whether or not we do get a new class, I would love it if they could add fist weapons, whips, spears (I know we already have underwater spears, but we need them on land as well), scythes (Necro autoattack doesn’t count) or books (for magic users)

You guys are amazing. I hope someone at ANet acknowledges all the hard work you’ve put in to deciphering this language by adding the bits that you filled in

Not entirely sure whether it’s true or not, but a skritt character called Veteran Rikker, found in Picaroon Scratch, has some interesting dialogue. One of his comments to the PC is “Did you know? Skritt once sailed the seas”. If it is true, then this could explain why they are so determined to build/repair that ship, or it could just be another hint at what’s to come.

Is ‘romaning’ a typo? Or am I missing something

I agree, there are times I wonder what they’re thinking when it comes to pets. In PvP I often notice their AI seems broken. But whether or not ANet does anything about it remains to be seen…

Ranger hate stems from people who frequently get rekt in pvp by rangers, so their only line of attack is to throw around claims of “most rangers = noobs” which is clearly a generalisation, and one that’s almost as dumb as “most black people = criminals”

Aaron Ansari.1604:

SheiyeSai.6037:

That vision you’re referencing is actually described more accurately here http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/The_All

Not at all, actually. That (entirely fan made) article doesn’t even mention the starting point of the vision that Darc was primarily referencing.

So you’re suggesting that a fan-made article (which makes up a significant portion of the GW2 Wiki btw) can’t possibly be relevant at all? Really?

DarcShriek.5829:

Aaron Ansari.1604:

DarcShriek.5829:

zwierz.9012:

As I psoted in other thread, here is my copypasted theory:

“I think Caithe has a plan of getting close to a big bad (Mordie maybe, though I think Faolain) and needs the egg to gain that persons trust, to show she is on their side.
So she needs to steal the egg, to convince that evul person of her intentions, and then assassinate it her.
She did say “there is no time to explain”, after all. How many similar plots hidden behind “there is no time to explain” have you seen in books/movies/tv shows? Lots and lots I bet.”

She doesn’t need the egg to gain Faolain’s trust because they are lovers. She already has her trust. It’s foolish to think that Caithe is going to try to get close enough to Mordy to do a one shot kill. There’s no way a one shot kill could work.

Fair enough, but to turn the scrutiny around, how would the egg possibly be able to help the Pale Tree?

Fair question. I don’t know if I can answer it sufficiently. I believe that my vision in Omadd’s machine hints that the Pale Tree is connected to the elder dragons. I believe this because the light we approached resembled the Pale Tree and when we came out the other side, the light was the center of the sphere representing Tyria. One of the globes flew into the Tyria sphere pretty hard.

Anyways, I believe there is powerful magic in the egg. This powerful magic will somehow be used to heal the pale tree. Maybe even allow the pale tree to fulfill the role of an elder dragon. I suspect the pale tree would somehow absorb the magic in the egg. Of course, I could be way wrong.

Anyways, suddenly I hungrey for a ham, bacon and sausage omelet. Gotta go.

That vision you’re referencing is actually described more accurately here http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/The_All

I think her secret is related to what happened in the past when she and Faolain went after Wynne. Whether she killed Wynne or Malyck or any other sylvari, I have a feeling that the nature of her secret is related to murder. As mentioned above, in the White Stag storyline, she murders a member of the Nightmare Court even after the PC asks for them to be set free. This demonstrates a ruthless and dark side to her that I think will play into the LS.
As for the egg, my theory is that she is hoping to hatch it. Her Wyld Hunt is to kill one of the Elder Dragons and in hatching that egg, I think she is hoping to take out the ED and fulfill her Wyld Hunt.

There’s nothing forcing you to play through it all as soon as it comes out. You have the option of waiting until the entire season is available and then playing through in one go. Not sure what your complaint is?

I loved the sylvari lore (even if they did change some things randomly like the amount of time the firstborn were alone for) and the way that Faolain rebelled. I think when you understand the enormous amount of pressure from the Pale Tree to ‘be perfect’ it makes you sympathise more with her and the others who decided they didn’t want to be part of that world. HOWEVER, after that segment where they met the centaurs and found Wynne, I played through it and by the end I was really mad. Not only did Faolain do the exact same thing to the centaurs that the asura had previously done to them (which makes her a massive hypocrite) but Caithe doesn’t even question what they’ve done… so now I’m just disgusted in them both. Those centaurs were peaceful and were trying to protect Wynne from a gang of thugs. They didn’t deserve to die like that…

I’m surprised that I hadn’t known about this until now as I am always interested in the lore, but this particular piece of lore makes me think that at some point during the quest to kill all the Elder Dragons we will in fact realise that we are doing the wrong thing. Perhaps Caithe has already realised this and took the egg to replace Zhaitan?

So I’ve found a post in the GW2 Wiki that refers to The All, described as “a cosmic mechanism that incorporates the world of Tyria and six bodies of power” which are assumed to be the six Elder Dragons. It also goes on to say that “The six bodies of power are in continuous push-and-pull motion, perfectly balancing themselves to each other and the world. It is said by the Apostate that if the bodies fall out of balance, then the world itself would tilt and everything would fall off, though such is taken to be a metaphor – the true outcome is unknown”. This is the link to the page: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/The_All
In a vision induced in Omadd’s machine, the Zhaitan orb crashes into the Tyria orb 2 years after Zhaitan’s death. Does this imply that in killing an Elder Dragon we are actually disturbing the balance of nature/the universe/the 6 bodies of power and thereby causing a potential cataclysm? I’d love to know what other think.

I think with this flashback, we will more of a connection between the asura and the sylvari, the Eternal Alchemy, the Dream/Nightmare and the ED. Everything is connected, but I’m still trying to figure out how

This makes sense as that bandit outpost that leads to the Silverwastes was actually a secret base for the White Mantle. I think the LS is pointing to the return of the White Mantle and/or the Mursaat

the Dream is capable of showing not only the past and present, but also possible futures.
I think Caithe has been granted a vision of a future cataclysmic event through the Dream and it has something to do with the egg, so she took it in an attempt to prevent that future from taking place