I suggested awhile ago maybe even 9 months ago. That Aegis needs a minor aoe resistance to it. So situations like that doesn’t happen. Or maybe give it a minor value. Like a Aegis can take a certain amount of damage before breaking. Or you can set in all or nothing mode. Where it then acts as it does now. At least you have a choice and interesting way to use it.
I still think Zeal and Virtue are the worst traitlines ever made. Goes back to my suggestion about streamlining them. Part of the reason I work around them now. I’m just not into rewarding bad game design. By promoting it like it doesn’t need to be fixed. With that said I took a few suggestions. And say with some interested gamers over the past weekend.
We came up with 10/25/0/30/5. Also 20/15/0/30/5 both I’m like meh. But then again the point is to carry and be a threat. I do admit the first mention did a excellent job of that. I couldn’t even find a way to dismiss it. But as people know from my past. I don’t just randomly post builds.
So you’ll see it in my videos first for a month or two. Keep in mind new changes coming anyway. So I’m pretty much in no rush to make any build. But it’s fun sitting down with you guys.
They maybe scared to do that. Because the minute someone mentions upgrade anything. Even if it’s one stat point. Literally a thousand power creep complainers appear. That we never even seen post before at that.
Well what I was trying to say is. By design they wouldn’t let you be a tank and dps cannon too. So you have the limitation numbers wise. Of having to dedicate way more gear traits towards being a crit damage build. Which would leave you very little else where in wiggle room.
On the flipside of that you don’t have to do that damage modifier route. You have more room to tinker and higher damage over all for less tinkering. But downside is now you have no defense if hit lights out. Some people don’t like that sort of style. Yea you look pro if you don’t get hit. But a larger majority of gaming population. Says “F that I want a more balanced stable build”
This is where the argument comes in. And like I said no right or wrong exists in a players choice. It’s his or her choice outside opinions don’t matter.
I never see a lack of WvW to be honest. It’s more reliable in the game then PVE is at the moment. PVE spikes with content patches. Or if a farm spot remains that people can zerg. The tower is already abandoned which is kinda sad. But nothing in this game is hard, to the point you can’t overcome it.
Which is why theirs no such thing as bad or good. As long as you win who cares how you did it. Only thing that should be looked down on is hacking or cheating. Or someone who just has a complex about being right. And they will just be disregarded anyway. It’s just that some guys haven’t realized yet that mentality don’t fly. And never will to be honest.
Also thanks all for keeping it clean. It was getting a little tiresome everyone getting infracted all over the place.
With all that said numbers wise. Wouldn’t it take more resources to go a crit damage build. Then using a raw damage build? I’m just looking at this in a passer by sense.
Well it would work if the traits were dual traits. Say we have a trait in Zeal 30 that allows damage modifier types. So depending on what you choose say hammer or sword it changes. Leave the other modifiers in the lower tier of Radiance and Zeal. That way you could still retain a usable build. With some kind of support if you deem it so. The way it is right now we have too many wasted stats. But I’m patient it’s been 13 months already. What’s one more month to see if we have a glimmer. I rather not bail on my first character. But you can take but so much Ret Paladin treatment. If you know what I mean.
@haviz
for a very long time Ele was good almost too good. I have one so I’m not that sorry for Ele’s. Even now they still in better shape then Guardian.
@Anicetus
I hope they take my advice about traits and condense them. It’s obvious when they did our traits they didn’t have enough ideas. So they spread them out to try and force us to not make uber builds. All dps modifiers should be in the dps trait lines. With them condensed to make actual sense. Healing traits be actually all in honor for us to pick and choose. And leave CC/defense/cleansing to the Valor and Virtue.
I’m just one guy saying our traits are a fail mess. So I doubt they will pay much attention to that.
Hey now we gotta have something.
We already slow, no fast range, lowest healers, lowest hp, traitlines badly optimized…
Can we at least dodge when we wanna lol……
Sometimes I dodge for effect. Sometimes I dodge to heal splash combined with virtue. I very rarely ever lack endurance. Unless I’m the target of the boss. Which doesn’t happen a lot either. I have a dodge heal for a reason and I use it freely. I don’t just randomly do it unless it’s a obvious for fun or style situation. Also negativity not really helping the topic. If this build isn’t to your liking. That’s cool make your own post/build and feel free to get feed back there.
I don’t see the reason to linger somewhere you have no say in changing. Or doing anything positive for the topic. If you feel that strongly make your own builds. And hold your own discussions. And see if people interact with you on the same level. You gotta know by now mods are watching. Let the community decide what it likes, now if people pay any attention to you. Then hey you win the game! If they don’t well maybe you should change your approach. Be a little less rude and tone down that ego a bit.
Lone I responded to a post you said awhile back not recently. The paragraph after the @ wasn’t direct at you
@Fadeway I’m trying several things still keeping the base way it’s used intacted. Some guys like speed clearing. I like carrying like I did in the latest video. That was a ultimate carry session. Due to I was trying to help two low geared people get an achievement and pull it off.
@Lonewolf
If you look through the post I never said it was set in stone. That’s why it’s a in between number 2.5. But what happen is it caught on not by my own doing actually. It works for what it’s being used as. It was never supposed to be a “dedicated” anything build. It was an idea that people embraced.
It was more the style of play then the build. Which is why I kept using it because it works. People can say what they like and complain. But at the end the of the day numbers don’t lie. I’m altering it now in anticipation for the next changes. And I’m still not going to rely on the virtue trait line. I’d never go beyond 10 if I go that far.
Actually it does because it shows. I didnt come in there with Malice. I was actually joking poking fun. And was going to actually suggest we go dps test.
Doesn’t matter if its more efficient or not. What is lost in all this. Is people chose to do whatever they want. And no one has the right bother them because of that. I could play higher dps and in fact the first build I did. Which is even more popular then the 2.5. Was at it’s time a high dps build.
But I didn’t just want that glass cannon build. So I made a build that toned it down some. And people loved that and both to this day. The reason being is because you have a choice. Thier is no such thing as meta or perfect builds.
Which is why every single game out there including this one. Blows up meta’s soon as they appear. That guys don’t accept everyone is different. And different things work for different people. And you shouldn’t disrespect anyone because of that.
Yea but we don’t know if they will actually listen to us. And alter or add anything to it. Say like with Zeal if they make it even more appealing. Then I’ll have to acknowledge it’s virtues. Right now I’m like yea….still don’t like this trait line. A lot of people feel the same way and avoid it altogether.
Radiance X would buff my Berserker build. But I don’t even advocate that build. Even though a lot of people like and use it.
Valor V= Is not even worth our time like you said barely a buff
Virtue VII and Symbol of Swiftness totally agree.
The other wild card is we don’t know what that rune and sigil hint means. What I’m hoping that if we do get class specifics in those. They would allow us to have builds and address other areas. Say like if you have a dps build a sigil would give you a boost to something else needed.
@Aza
Exactly what I been saying too much ego going on around here.
@Finnway
Only thing that is evidence of is that Obal doesn’t exactly know what gear I have. Don’t know what set up he used. But it’s pretty obvious it’s not what I suggested.
I agree I actually did this over the weekend on a live stream. (20/15/10/20/5) Pushed the EP to 5000 and people liked it. I still don’t like Zeal but I admit it was stronger. I don’t see myself doing that with the current Zeal. I may do it however with the next trait change. But I am trying various things seeing what I can get away with. The build you put up I’ll try it tonight as well.
I would just like more speed. And some kind of CC. Like I mentioned earlier a ranged stun of some sort. And atleast make Virtue of Resolve heal as much as everyone elses regens do. I think it might be the lowest scaling heal regen. I think even theif self healing is higher. I need to recheck that one though.
As requested by some of you. I updated it to my current gear and EP. I’m sure a lot of you have better gear then I do. So you should have higher Ep’s. Also I use Celestrial in two slots so that effects things a bit too. But this should clear up the questions on how I hit 5000 the other way. I admit that is interesting but meh to Zeal.
Judge’s Invention now stuns 3 seconds on impact….If character stun breaks out of it. They receive a slow for another 3 seconds. Call the slow “Burden of Guilt”. See GW2 it’s not hard to come up with something
I think the finish him should be reserved for champion mobs. I used to think veterans too but here’s the thing. We usually face a lot of Vet’s so that becomes a time shink. So it’s better it stays with the Champion mobs only.
I’m not against a power condition guard build. As long as they speed us up somehow. If they don’t won’t be any point to that. Because you won’t stay in contact long enough to benefit from it. Staff is not good for keeping contact. And scepter is still too slow for something like building stacks. And as it stands now some stack building you need to be close to do it. So yea…all kinds of we need help on this being viable.
I’m wondering if these rune and sigil hints. Means that in order to fix balancing in all classes. They are issuing runes and sigil’s to each class separate. Which is exactly what wow did with it’s Inscription system. Rift did it in a more slick way with Planar Attunement. And Secret World half hearted on it with misc powers. Basically what I’m getting at is. It’s been done before to not have it be a flop like those games. The reason you need to use sigil and runs in the first place. Needs to be addressed or gotten rid of.
Main problem is like I mention before. Too many points are wasted or locked. Which doesn’t allow any build freedom. Some classes specifically Warrior and Elementalist. Don’t have such crutches. If all builds really want to be made viable. Then what each build is stronger at. Needs to be compacted more in anyone of the 5 trait lines. So if you want a certain build. You go after two trees and regain your classes identity. And not be all over the world using trait points.
For example I like two handers. Make it so “everything” for a build like that is only in two trait lines. If you really want to open this up for us. Make it all in one line, that’s even better. Say put power/burst/sustain traits all in Zeal and Radiance early. And combine certain things Like Two Handed Power and CD Speed. Like why is two handed refresh time even outside of attack traits anyway? Just combine it we got nifty tool tips now.
By doing that you completely free a power build to get some kind of support and a little defense. Nothing tank worthy but at least a little so they not so squishy. Or maybe that build can go after more self healing/deeper support/team healing/Full Power kitten the team. This is just an example but it be the beginning of opening things up. And whiping out the meta play the Dev’s obviously don’t like. Every meta they see they drop kick some how no matter what profession it is. If you do find a meta sometimes its better to keep it to yourself.
It’s all about skill above else. You can use whatever you want where ever you want. As long as you got the knowing to pull it off. Some peoples over crying about speed isn’t always what everything is about. I play with anyone on purpose. Because it’s more real and fun to meet anyone and everyone. By doing that you’re going to have to carry now and then. So if I have to do that might as well be on my terms and no one elses.
And at the end of the day it’s about winning. And you get more credit winning with anything on hand. Then you do with winning with set teams. No one really cares about that and rather watch the under dogs. Even if it’s not as pretty some times. Which brings things back to bring what you want to bring. As long as you do you’re job and don’t end up dead half the fight. Dead dps does no dps and just waste a team slot.
On the other side if you can cheese a fight higher dps works better of course. Because damage will make things faster which is great. In fact that is more fun. But those instances can’t always be valid. Which means you need to do something else when out in the masses.
Well I do burst+sustain already in my play style. What it does for me is allow me to roam and take on people. Even in bad odds and pull through. But here is the downfall of that. Although I’m strong enough to get the kills and live. People will survive now and then.
Which causes you a problem and leave little room for error. So it pressures you to play perfect or die. That maybe too much on a new gamer. But my worry eventhough I’d like it. Is how much pressure is too much pressure for someone who already Burst+Sustain then you add pressure?
Well one thing I would suggest is this. We have too many traits that are throwaway traits. Like things we are forced into which limits freedom and fun in the profession. Totally a opinion but I would combine certain traits. They shouldn’t really be single anyway.
For example I’d combine; Absolute Resolution, Indomitable Courage, and Permeating Wrath. Make it into one trait Called Royal Virtues or something. No reason for them to be three different traits. And that free up two more trait slots for build flexibility.
This is just an example but if you look in every trait line. All 5 have throw aways we either don’t ever need never use. Or your basically saying oh my gosh. Why is this even separate from this? Maybe the proper thing to say is they need to be streamlined. It’s all over the place.
And leaves us little wiggle room. Even the new additions doesn’t fix that problem. What the new additions will actually do. Is just add a few more builds to be “locked” into. And we still be lacking power and unhappy about it. Unless they hiding a fat power buff.
Generally what happens is we get it for a week. Then boom nerf bat to the ground. You can disregard COF1 that was there for months. But everything else in the history of the game never last long. If it’s easily exploitable anyway.
It has to be higher or give something else. As it stands now most people rather shed some crit instead. And gain more power so adding a little amount of crit is yes a buff. But not really one we need that much. Unless it’s a much larger increase then that.
Well I never delete guides. I did mention however in the Bezerker guide that it’s old. I’m going to alter 3.0 and paladin 2.5. But I have to deal with Korean BNS this weekend. I’ll sit down and think about GW2 monday no interuptions. Or mmosite’s editor in my ear.
But I do like the build think I’ll roll with it. I still want them to do more with Zeal
It would be nice if we could use them more. And have them be viable beyond being a gimic. You can use them against bosses as a zerg dps down. I used them that way in harder bosses, for the Queens Pavillion.
Nope durend
I said stand there and attack. Not buff and attack nice try though. Is nice staff damage after the swap though. You guys are funny trying to short cut.
But I’m not sure I like it over 2.5 which is why I never posted it. One day I will maybe when I get a legendary staff etc. Either way I don’t struggle supporting. Which is a lot of the reason I use the staff. I’ll be fine people will be fine. I say it again it’s not your place to determine what I see fit. And if you didn’t get it by now I’m not going to change what I do.
Full berserker gear isn’t that much higher dps wise. So it comes down to traits. I have a full dps build. And full berserkers to put on. Which is why in the video you hear me say I scaled it back. So dudes saying it doesn’t hit hard is full of it. With what i have right now highest no help crit i hit with staff is 1650 it varies. No it’s not 1800 but considering I scaled it back on purpose. I don’t expect it to.
I also go on to say it’s not the highest dps build. And direct them to other builds outside of mine. So you got guys who don’t tell the whole truth here as well. And just say what they want to fit the argument. I also mention a 3.0 I never posted. Because I was forever waiting for that miracle patch. {We never got it} So now I have dudes raging because I decided to shave full dps on purpose. And make a build I liked. And guess what people liked it.
I didn’t even anticipate how much. And still shocked I’m still getting how do I use this build and they love it. So the problem is why do you guys care. And who made you judge jury and excutioneer to deem me or anyone else wrong.
What happens when you still do that despite that Durend? Also your taking into account if you were trying to do support build. If that was the case I’d use a different build. I however was going for a dps/support. Designed to carry so to speak. Which is what I do with the combo.
Again no one can disprove that fact. Which is why its popular in the first place. But like I said all you doing is pushing people to me. Who dislike forum trash talkers. Whatever your goal is it’s failing big time. And at the end of the day. I’m still going to do what I do regardless no less popular. Don’t know what about it’s over some of you didn’t get. Judging how posts are vanishing maybe time for us all to be quiet.
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