Guild Wars 2

If guilds would be really interested in doing GvG with a ladder system or something they would go to: http://play.eslgaming.com/guildwars2/global/gw2/open/ladder-gvg-europe/
ESL “Trailer” and informations:
http://www.clips9.com/files/2016/02/guild-wars-2--esl-gvg-lad/1Y2KZvIzHLs.html

there were also some player projects to implement sth like this:

http://www.GW2GVG.com – dead
http://www.gw2leaderboards.com – dead

that’s what people say if they get asked for a seperate gvg ladder or a pvp ladder system like clanbase (maybe anyone still know clanbase):
“there will be enough competition between guilds to hold keeps in WvWvW for me”

so if people really want something like this, do a post in every known gw2 forum (also fan-based), tell them what you’re aiming for, stack people with knowledge about HTML, PHP, CSS and other stuff and just do it!

the only is thing that anet have to do is making it possible that every guild can fight versus any guild even when they’re not in their matchup.

Sarrs.4831:

Now image you’ve played say for the sake of argument, 30 games. You have won 15 of them. But you are still on zero pips. Why would you keep playing? Sure last 2 season by now you could be out of amber and working your way through emerald. You could argue players are no better off at the moment, as they are there already. But they had seen progression. They had the feeling they are getting somewhere. Currently people are not feeling that. That is a problem. As I said in my OP. If players get frustrated they stop playing. A league only works if you had players. Last season saw a massive drop off after 4 weeks. People where in queues of over 10 minuets for ruby. Some reported way longer. This showed the league failed to keep people interested to the end. We all know this to be true. Weather we want to admit it or not.

That’s what happened right now to me, balancing is ‘good’. I’m losing, I’m winning, losing, winning and so on, it doesn’t matter if i go ranked or unranked, it’s the same.

What makes me feel quit again from Gw2 and PvP is the condition meta, the enemy team: Minion Necro, Condition Necro, Condition Thief, Condition Warrior, Condition Mesmer. I’m currently playing Dragonhunter and there’s no chance to cleanse, even if you have killed them or they’re in downed you will die on conditions. In the past, as i started playing pvp after release condition was something for the beginning, easy to handle, easy to play and effective. After i have become better i played supporter classes/ builds or beserker. And now everyone is playing condition, some classes don’t have to move at all they’re just spamming random keys. Sorry, but theres no decent evidence if a player is good or not, even that people who already reached last division, it says nothing about how good the are they just invest more time, beeing lucky with teams or grinding in a group.

Some people in the forum said: “If you’re not playing conditions builds(meta builds) you will be a handicap of your team, you need to move on.”
- that what happens is not that players moved on, they moved back years ago. The PvP became too casual, you could took any player, who never have played PvP before, from ‘Cursed Shore Map’, give him a condition bunker build – here we go he will be good as everyone else nowadays.

Wish we could back to the meta who everybody laugh at condition builds, making tactics before the match starts, where people were glad to have a bunker class for holding points a time where players had skill. All you need now is to: go to metabattle, grab your fav. class, get a condition build and you will do very fine by spamming half-brained random buttons. Congratulations.

All people who still playing beserker or support builds without condition, keep that. Well done!

trunks.5249:

Silversteen.1360:

Had a team where a warrior used greatsword and the other warr in my team flamed him and that he won’t play if he doesn’t relog or playing the meta build.

Well, we lost because 4v5.

I also got flamed because i’m not playing meta, couldn’t care less.

there are a lot of costume builds better then meta. also a meta build might not fit your play style

Right, today i saw a old medi guardian, he/she got flamed but wrecked everything.
I think in times where people try to create builds, which accomplish the meta, to counter other meta builds you’re running well with older ones, most of the people in pvp are usually half-brained condition spammer and don’t even know whats going on or how to dodge, because they don’t need to. Saw enough DH & Druids with traps, they just stand there, doesn’t move and waiting someone is running into their trap.

I also tried the old gurdian bunker build, there was a fight vs 2 thiefs, 1 condi & 1 beserker/ marauder, they both died on retaliation.

Silhouette.5631:

Congratulations Anet, the game is at the point that people will laugh at you, insult you, and call you a noob because you are not running an Xpac build. Playing a guardian instead of a dragonhunter now makes me an underpowered scrub. 2 people on my team shared that sentiment. Thats 50% of my team.

Back in my day only condi necros were that toxic

This game is supposed to pride itself on being built in a way that it encourages people treating each other kindly and not in a way that promotes aggression towards one another. Having builds that are clearly under powered is something that is cause for arguement

That being said

Please give us another balance patch

With Love,
The dude who’s been running the same build for over a year yet somehow seems to be getting worse.

P.S. I uninstalled LoL because of its toxic community. Haven’t played it in two years. We’re no wheres close to that yet but dear god is the game moving in that direction.(As far as the people I see in PvP. PvE is still great…unless you’re the tag doing DS meta)

Same here, playing my Guard/ Warrior with the same old builds like a year ago. You get flamed by your team mates and the enemies how pathetic it is that they’ve lost against you.

Had a team where a warrior used greatsword and the other warr in my team flamed him and that he won’t play if he doesn’t relog or playing the meta build.

Well, we lost because 4v5.

I also got flamed because i’m not playing meta, couldn’t care less.

Varezenem.2813:

Silversteen.1360:

Spartacus.3192:

Silversteen.1360:

well, in the past unranked was more about rotation & skill, now any team is camping infront of spawn and farming or zerging, feels like almost everyone got condition bunker build.. just a bit, pathetic.

Season 3 will have condition builds either less bunkery (is that a word?) or have less damage due to mercenary amulet removal.

sounds juicy!
they also removed soldier amulet he? need to rebuild my warrior.. i played shout warrior / bunker in the past, is there anything similiar existing nowadays?

Paladin’s power/prec vit/tough

Thanks alot, will try this!

Spartacus.3192:

Silversteen.1360:

well, in the past unranked was more about rotation & skill, now any team is camping infront of spawn and farming or zerging, feels like almost everyone got condition bunker build.. just a bit, pathetic.

Season 3 will have condition builds either less bunkery (is that a word?) or have less damage due to mercenary amulet removal.

sounds juicy!
they also removed soldier amulet he? need to rebuild my warrior.. i played shout warrior / bunker in the past, is there anything similiar existing nowadays?

well, in the past unranked was more about rotation & skill, now any team is camping infront of spawn and farming or zerging, feels like almost everyone got condition bunker build.. just a bit, pathetic.

Hey all,

i came back after a big break and wanted to do some unranked, since ranked isn’t available, and what the hell. It feels like hotjoin, zerging teams who spam condition. Is the only difference to hotjoin that the players “almost” start at same time?

Does maybe make sense to NA, but not EU. After the server merge / linkin you will split again the population into the “snowmen” and the desert ones. It’s may be better to add one DBL to the current rotation.

Give ANet the space to rework the DBL and add them again, but not all 3 DBL at once.
Since there are more players that are like to play the APL, you should do this:

red and blue become APL as homeborder, green the DBL.
server will change color everyweek so everyone becomes the dbl as homeborder from time to time and the “desert people” can play on them, 24/7. :p

by the way, i like snow.

Reverence.6915:

Terrahero.9358:

The drama and sheer exegeration in this thread. “If anet doesnt let me contribute 10x more because i play at night it means they think i am subhuman”.

What the actual kitten?

Nightcapping has been issue since day one, no time slot has more impact on determining the winner than the night slot. Adressing this issue to lessen the overwhelming impact of a few players during off-hours should’ve been done years ago.

Nightcapping is not going to be worthless, however you simply should not be the “Kingmakers” of WvW. Where all that matters is your work and everyone else is irrelevant.
Because that is the reality here that these nightbabies seem to ignore. Right now and for the past 3,5 years it has been the people playing during the day and prime time who have been made, to put it in your words “subhuman”. Because that 4k lead we etch out over the course of an evening of battle is dust in the wind compared to the 30k nightcapping wins back knocking down undefended keeps.

Depends if you’re in NA or EU. “Night capping” hasn’t been as much of an issue in NA compared to EU because NA has a greater diversity of players, except in the lower tiers before the mergers. Nowadays it shouldn’t be an issue at all except for the fairweather problem.

Exactly, it should only concerns EU server because they’ve a maximum time difference of 1h, but most server got several NA guilds which karmatrain the whole night.

For EU it is a good choice.

Faux Play.6104:

They can easily get in guilds.

But maybe they don’t want to get in a guild?

Gideon.6742:

The Desert BL is vastly improved and have been non stop action and fights during prime. They aren’t that bad.

Yes, because most guilds are raiding on DBL, they are forced to because of the 50+ qeue on EB. But as long as EB has no qeue, nobody is playing on DBL.

I would also come back, not for the map itselfs, but alpine offers so many other ‘jobs’ you could do like scouting or roaming like volpennieh said. I would give it a try again, maybe just for the memories, maybe just for couple a weeks – depends on the HoT stuff and how they will be played from other players.

Fozzik.1742:

Thanks everyone for keeping the discussion going, but I think it’s clear (and has been for some time) that Anet is a million miles away from the player base when it comes to game design, especially in terms of WvW. I think we’re all wasting our breath.

I’m sorry to say I left the game about four months ago, and it’s highly unlikely that I’ll be back. I haven’t thought about the game in all that time, and I really wouldn’t have anything valid to add to the discussion at this point.

To those still playing, I wish you luck.

same here.
i’ve build a new pc and currently installing the OS.. and i’m not sure if i will install guildwars2 again. maybe in some weeks, or maybe not. WvW has always been the reason for me to log in, but after HoT – 75% of guilds and players i know quitted. there are so many reasons.. pve players have better gear and stats as pure wvw players but wvw is based on pve – in every situation (build, stats, gear ect.) – bring wvw back to the old time + based on pvp armor/weapons/build – system. every update forces wvw players to play more pve – even in wvw.

my 2 cents, everyone who is still doing wvw and believes in Anet, good luck.

Uh yeah, that will come along with the build save/ load options.. never.

used to be wvw all the time.. in the past

now, i dont even log in for dailies.. playing other games

Nadesh.7953:

@Silversteen.1360 thx for answer but that wasn’t the question. Probably what I wrote wasnt very clear, my english is very poor. What I meant is that if i buy the expansion some time after the release, I will need to buy the episodes for 200 gems like it is now or the full LS (or what is left of it) will be unlocked when we buy the expansion?

Ah, okay. Understood now.
I think, if the LS will be unlocked completely with the expansion it will end in kitten storm by the players who already paid for it and players who played the living story without spending money because they will get the feeling that they pay also for the LS if they buy the expansion altho they don’t need to.

I personally would avoid such a issue but don’t know how Arena Net thinking about this..

Will the Profession Specialization also affect WvW and PvP?

Since the LS is done what are we doing till release, any events planned?

When I’m creating a new char will I be able to join Maguuma or do i need to play the personal story/ living story first? — Maguuma = only 80 area?

@nadesh:

3. You can buy the Guildwars2 Heart of thorns digital or in a retail store like guildwars2.

again.

Message Body length must at least be 15.

I get 1 or 2 AP per day as PvP player.
for the next chest i need more than 1 1/2 years. Thanks!

that’s the way

yes. you just get ranked in guild leaderboard if you currently got a group out of 5 guild players

I don’t think the population is to low. Look, why should people play with a guild or team when they get ranked solo. And people can play both, guild leaderboard + solo leaderboard. On the one side you find out who is the best solo player and the other hand the best guildgroup, 2 seperate leaderboards doesn’t mean it will end up in low population. There will be guilds who have a maximum amount of players, f.e 6 players. 4 of them playing till evening solo because the 5th player is missing but in the evening they gonna do some tPvP matches. Both leaderboards would be active in any way just to different times.

Of course guild leaderboard won’t be that big because that are teams, take 1000 players from soloQ who play in the evening tPvP – you would have 200 guild groups ranked which is okay imo.

What do you think about a guild leaderboard?

A Leaderboard were only guilds are displayed.
If you qeue with a full guildgroup you’re get ranked in this leaderboard and only face other guild groups. To avoid that one guild change the guild during the match because of losing you can lock the guild tab while the match. Or another option would be to place a new NPC in the mists where you have to register that guild you want to play with.

positive aspects:
+ decrease the amount of full guild groups in soloQ
+ players can better identify with her pvp guild

Deimos Tel Arin.7391:

and what is this clan base ladder system about?

do you mean a guild ladder?

as in, only full guild teams may participate?

Yes. I just changed the topic because much people doesn’t know that system. It was a ladder system where guilds can challenge each other and only the 2. and 3. were able to challenge the 1st spot.

The clanbase system were based on the ELO – System, correct me if i’m wrong, f.e. LoL is using it. But that topic is not about to change the GW2 rating system.

Brolla.3142:

Yeah Ive been getting steam rolled all night, just checked my rank and Im 0% shouldn’t I be up against the worst of the worst?

No. As far as I know there was no reset for the MMR. So you still play with/ against people with your ~ MMR. It also depends on how many players are queueing with you.
If you’re just queueing with high MMR you will play them.

I’m not a fanboy but don’t blame ANet for that.
If you want good matches play later the night qeue takes longer but it is worth and avoid to play solo on weekend because much unexperience players are farming in PvP.

And showing the MMR would mean some players will only make teams with high MMR and would blame low MMR’s. Imagine, people are now complaining about the random teams because they’re to good or sth. and what would happen if all high MMR players doing teams and you play them with “lowies”?

+ that will end in kind of discrimination.

haha. agree with that. Some other experience:
- people doesnt know any buffs on silent storm
- 2 of my team mates were killed by a boss on nifhel
- playing with people who ask during the match how they can equip. Sometimes they even have a 2nd weapon
- 4 people capping close at the beginning without facing an enemy while i was 1v4 on mid.
- 3 mesmer in a team and they were losing a 1v3 against a warrior

And many more.. this happened all yesterday.

I would not care about 3 thiefs in a team as long as I won’t get punished for profession change. Honestly, I played many matches last hours and won them but I had to change my profession because of the setup (3 thiefs, 3 rangers and so on) and I lose every match now. That is stupid.. because cba to play with 3 rangers versus 2 guards, 2 warriors and 1 thief.

Could you please remove that?
At the moment, winning or losing is just pure chance because it depends on the professions and skill of your team which you can’t influence. (SoloQ)

Look attachments, that’s how it is working when you can’t reroll.
The whole day..

All about luck.

mistsim.2748:

hey man my experience has been exactly the same. ive been getting stomped since the patch hit. I had a pretty good MMR (I think) going in, and now I keep getting grouped with soloers running weird builds and dying instantly. I think im 2-8 now…my game hasn’t changed, but my teammates’ skill level has it seems

Have to agree. Just started with playing today and lost the 1st match, 2nd, 3th..
now i’ve won my first match today, yeahj!
i’m something about 1-13. before 16th. i was ranked 100-300 depends on my activity and that was really fun because matches were nice and i meet alot of people who are top10 and also played them.

now i’ve to play with players who are just running around without capping close at the beginning or a team who caps free pts with 4 people just to get the capture points.

no fun.

positive
+ only soloers
+ good maps

Yes. Yesterday was crap. Played ~10 ranked matches, lose, win, lose, lose, win, win.. and so on. And some 4v5 and that bug that the “match is ready” pop up during the match and my whole team pressed “ready”. Since the enemy were premade they canceled this and I played alone vs a premade team the others joined another match. Lost several matches because of this. 2 days ago it was perfect. Q was longer Bit i dont mind if i get a quality better match.

Are PvP players forced to do PvE now? And I think much people want to spend the holidays/ free days to their family instead of lohging in all days and doing JP and world bosses. The system is nice but the time of launch is.. not fair to the casual gamer with life. 24/7 nerds wont care I guess. So people who already got alot (precursor, gold, legendarys, laurels..) caus of 24/7 getting more and casuals less than they got before.

Dervish outfit as set. <3

Before 2h I played my last match.. still waiting for that idiot who are not pressing start.

Hi there!

I’m looking for a PvP Guild with ~30 players who playing tPvP every day.

Thief, Guard, Warrior /knowledge of many build variations

highest sQ ranking: 419
r67
2k games played

so i’m ‘new’ to this but i would be glad to hear from you

greetings

Push!
Wir suchen noch!

=)

push!

we’re still searching for players

Hey folks

We are a german speaking guild that’s currently raiding on Elona Reach.
We are mostly focused on WvW- Raids but we also do PvP/ GvG (including scrims) to improve ourselfes.

Wir, [mQ] Move Quickly, suchen nach aktiven WvW Spielern die ihre Klasse beherrschen und sich stetig weiterentwickeln wollen.
Was wir fordern:

- respektvolles Benehmen und Umgang
- Anwesenheit zu den Raidterminen (meistens ab 19:00 Uhr)
- nötigen Ehrgeiz sich im WvW zu verbessern
- Kritikfähig
- Teamfähig
- Ts3 Aktiv
- Spaß mitbringen

Was wir bieten:
- 4 fixe interne Raid-Termine pro Woche
- GvG’s / Scrims
- public Raids
- eingespielte und erfahrene Stammgruppe
- spezifisches Klassentraining und Feedbackmeetings
- Check von Builds und Setups
- eigenes Ts3
- eigene Arena
- eigene Homepage

Wir raiden im Normalfall Montag bis Donnerstag oder bei erhöhter Aktivität auch am Wochenende oder zum Reset. Außerhalb der Raids und WvW treiben wir uns in den Arenen oder Dungeons herum.

Mediathek:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsqPBsE2Jk4 – Promotion Vol.1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdL4BuDuT9g – Promotion Vol.2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxdkwT0xneo – Raidvid

Twitch:
http://www.twitch.tv/movequickly

Interesse geweckt?

Dann melde dich einfach Ingame bei folgenden Spielern:
Saja.7024
KDK.2067
Taraske.2198
Blackburn.8150
zZeus.5190

oder

http://mq-gaming.shivtr.com/

Wir freuen uns auf dich!

Gruß
[mQ],
Move Quickly

Hey folks!

Firstly, thanks alot for your interest.
please add one of the contacts ingame and whisper since i wont be able to clear things or coming online next 2 days due personal issues. Thanks in advance I hope i’m gonna see you in 2 days. If not i will contact you on friday.

See ya

a small guild with 20-30 member should be fine

Hello everyone!

The new guild [keaz] Kewl Beanz are recruiting players who want to take part of something new. Actually we’re just few players with the aim to play daily tPvP matches together and improve ourself.

Our requirements to join [keaz] are simple:
+ atleast r30
+ nice behaviour
+ represent only in PvP
+ improve yourself
+ having fun

So if you’re hardly can’t leave the mist and still searching a small group of players to play with because you’re sick of the random and unbalanced tPvP teams or sPvP you’re welcome.

Contacts:
Silversteen.1360
Azael.3751
McLaren.2195

we’re looking forward to hear from you!
be kewl.

Hello everyone!

The new guild [keaz] Kewl Beanz are recruiting players who want to take part of something new. Actually we’re just few players with the aim to play daily tPvP matches together and improve ourself.

Our requirements to join [keaz] are simple:
+ atleast r30
+ nice behaviour
+ represent only in PvP
+ improve yourself
+ having fun

So if you’re hardly can’t leave the mist and still searching a small group of players to play with because you’re sick of the random and unbalanced tPvP teams or sPvP you’re welcome.

Contacts:
Silversteen.1360
Azael.3751
McLaren.2195

we’re looking forward to hear from you!
be kewl.