Guild Wars 2

Hey guys and gals!

Currently, Team Rainbow of Vial of Salt[VoS] is actively recruiting experienced members to join our 4th guild raiding team! If you are experienced and looking for a NA primetime scheduled raid team then feel free to look at what we have to offer! Below is a list of our player requirements and expectations. If these expectations seem like something you would like to be part of feel free to contact me for a trial!

Raid Dates and Times
Monday-Wednesday 8PM EST
Each raid session will end after 2 hours or at the discretion of leadership
Please show up 15 minutes before the start time

Gear Expectations — In and Out of game
We expect you to be fully geared in ascended (unless the build allows for some exceptions) and to use the optimal consumable for your build.
We also expect for each member to have TS and a working mic.

Classes
We are currently in need of 2 tempest mains, 2 PS warriors, and 1 Chronomancer (DPS). We are looking for players that are very experienced with these classes in a raid setting. We also preference players that are able to play other classes in addition to these.

Trial
We trial our potential members in Spirit Vale and judge them on Ability to Communicate, Compatibility with current raid members, player expectations (above), and personal talent, willingness to explore new approaches, and ability to react outside of their comfort zone.
You will be evaluated under two main criteria—fights you are familiar with and fights you are playing a new role in. For familiar fights on familiar roles we will see how well you perform and if you carry yourself well. For fights that you are not familiar with and on roles you aren’t familiar with we will evaluate you on your communication and willingness to try the new role/fight.

Last Bit
We have some other expectations that we will make you aware of during the trial but these are our core values for our players. If this is something you would be interested in then give either of our raid leaders a shoutout. Our IGNs are Skittles.7830 and Darn.6532. Use the following format when mailing us in game:

• Hello, I am:
• My account name is:
• I can play: (profession)
• My Preferred classes/roles, in descending order, are as follows:

Thank you for your interest and hopefully we will see you around soon!

Cbomb.4310:

definitely not buying next expac unless everything its supposed to come with comes at release…

Post of the year

There is really no point. They don’t want to put the effort into learning the raids and I don’t want to do 3 swamps for a daily. I’d rather have an instanced thing I could do with them that we all enjoy. Dungeons filled that roll for 3 years and had so much potential.

Coulter.2315:

but you did seem to be thinking you spent $100 not too long ago).

what? I did spend $100. I gave Anet $100, regardless of the price of the expac. I don’t know why you can’t understand that. The value of the expac has nothing to do with anything….its just dumb that the topic is being derailed by this.

Back to topic please.

Coulter.2315:

If I spend £1 on milk and £1 on stuff I don’t actually want I don’t come home and say “that shop is kitten and this milk was not worth £2!”

Thats a bad analogy. The situation is more like the milk comes with 1.5 euros worth of other stuff (from the same dairy farmer) but you only have to pay 1 extra euro. They also say that the milk is the greatest you’ve ever had. Then you get home and drink the milk and its not that great. Then you realize that you just gave a less than mediocre milk company 2 euros for terrible milk. Doesn’t matter if the extra stuff was good or not the bad dairy farmer got the money to make more bad milk.

Also even at $50 I don’t feel I got my money’s worth. I still don’t know why you are stuck on a pricing thing though. It’s kinda like a semantic argument—pointless.

Coulter.2315:

No.. You spent $50 on a game expac and $50 on some gems and skins – don’t be adding $50 to the price of the game because of your poor purchasing decisions xD

It really doesn’t matter.

I bought the $100 pack and Anet still got the money. The line items on the purchase don’t matter. What does matter is that at the time I was under the impression that dungeons would still be a thing and that we were getting challenging group content. Instead they made a late (if not last minute) decision to nerf dungeons and make fractals boring. Raids ARE fun! But they are on a weekly reset. So I actually play like 1 time a week unless I feel like capping out my raid shards.

I wouldn’t bet on it. It depends if Anet thinks its worth their labor hours to fix it. Which there is no way of knowing until it either hits in an update or they announce they are working on it.

robert.6315:

I am curious about what an Engineer brings to raids outside of good DPS.

Good condi DPS…..

The have a pretty good AoE heal on a low cooldown.

Also in bad less experienced raid groups you can go scrapper and then res the baddies that get caught in the bad pie…

IllegalChocolate.6938:

Skittles I don’t know what types of friends you got but real friends will stick with you no matter what.

That’s….uh….nice but I’m not a fairy tale fan.

Now on topic: This post isn’t really about my friends. It is about me spending $100 real dollars on a game expac that killed all the content many love and added VERY VERY LITTLE similar content. In fact the only added instanced content was Raids and the story. Fractals was just a reskin of something we had already had! Not to mention the fact that pre-HoT fractal daily we had 1 swamp for fractals and then 3 random maps (one was a boss), we do just 3 swamps for the good daily now. SO MY POINT IS I ACTUALLY PAID $100 FOR CONTENT LOSS. (I’m not capping there to show my anger but rather in hopes that it catches the attention of the anet dev casually browsing.)

I know someones going to come back with something I’m sure they thought long and hard about and think is brilliant but the reality is that Anet killed the game for me and many of my friends. I don’t even log in for daily fractals anymore cause it isn’t fun either doing 3 swamps or trying to convince people to do another map. I log in on Mondays and do the raid then log out.

SuinegTsol.1729:

Can we “adopt a dev” for raids?

lol.

Good luck getting a dev to tell us anything

PopeUrban.2578:

The argument evident here is that you don’t like that the easiest content no longer pays out the best rewards.

No….uh actually my argument (really its a concern not an actual argument) is that because the incentive to do dungeon content doesn’t exist, I can’t get my friends to do it with me—good or bad.

PopeUrban.2578:

That’s actually been fixed. Sucking at the game should not reward the player better than not sucking at the game. This is where raids and 50+ fractals are at now. They pay out better/unique rewards because they require you no not be bad.

Interesting. By interesting I mean you are saying stuff that sounds cool but also doesn’t exist. for example…better rewards? Uh, in one night of a dungeon train I made more money than I do in raids. I could also do them 7 days a week. Maybe your right, there shouldn’t be a reward for casual play (you aren’t) but there SHOULD be incentive for active content. Let us recall what the almighty John Smith said about dungeons…it has nothing to do with rewards, level of skill, or anything other than simply because Anet doesn’t want to keep that content running. So your “argument” really isnt that great.

PopeUrban.2578:

The case you’re making is that higher skill levels shouldn’t be rewarded with greater income,

See above. (hint: there isn’t a great reward or income for this more difficult content)

PopeUrban.2578:

Either acknowledge that playing with your friends is more important than rewards, or acknowledge that rewards are more important to you than playing with your friends.

I feel like I need to explicitly say this; there is no incentive to do dungeons so I can’t get my friends to do them.

Harper.4173:

“I’m not playing worse I’m just relaxing – stop punishing me for relaxing” and “I want to work at work and goof around in video games – how dare people that work in their game get more stuff than I do while randomly goofing?”.

I don’t think anyone has said that here….like at all.

Harper.4173:

They want “the zerker meta” to end but actually just want to safely clear content behind 0 risk cleric’s set-ups while they also netflix and chill.

Actually a lot of my bad friends run the zerker meta. also meta isn’t in question here.

Harper.4173:

To the OP? If you want to play with your friends there’s nothing stopping you – HoT is just not rewarding you as much for it.

Actually lack of incentives is stopping me because none of my friends want to do it.

P.S. I don’t know why I replied to the silliness that is these two posts but eh…bored from not playing GW2 I guess.

Hey forum users,

I don’t know what the majority or minority opinion on this topic is but I’m pretty discontent with the way things have played out with HoT. In game I see similar opinions but it could just be a vocal minority….I don’t know. Lately I’ve had a major lack of interest in the game as a whole. I have a raid group that I log into the game for but that’s pretty much it.

Before HoT released I ran dungeons for 4-6 hours a day with many of my friends and guildies—all at different skill levels. It was easy to carry my bad friends. When HoT released the Raids I had to begin to pick and choose my friends, since many couldn’t even handle the mobs before VG let alone VG. The fractals update was very similar. Many didn’t want the challenge of higher level fractals and were turned off by the initial lack of rewards. Of course everyone stopped dungeon running since it had no value. When fractals “reward revamp” happened many figured it was only worth it to do the 50+ daily….so now if I want to do the daily I end up doing 3 swamps.

So basically when I log in to do instanced content with my friends I take my friends who are good at the game for about 2 hours or less on Monday to do the raid, then log in every other day to do 3 swamps in 30 minutes (which I end up having to PuG half the group). I had the impression that HoT would bring more content to the game in terms of rewarding content. I went from 4-6 hours daily to about 6 hours a week after the initial stary eyes from HoT’s release. Why is this OK?

I just want to play with my bad friends again and be rewarded for it.

Ryn.6459:

Add dungeons into fractals.

You literally just blew my mind.

I wanted to start by telling you that this is not intended to be a “lets us all gather and complain about ANet” thread. These are simply some of the things that are going through my head and how I feel about the game in general.

Content: Dungeons to Fractals

As many of you know dungeons got the good ol’ fashion nerf. Though, the nerf had nothing to do with something being OP or providing an unbalanced outcome for a portion of the population. Rather this nerf was the result of support denial. This means that ANet simply does not want us to play dungeons, rather have us play the content they want us to play. Even though they have stated that dungeons will still be cool experiences and have unique rewards, the removal of “liquid” reward will result in one thing—less people playing this content. In the current state of the game this is exactly what we see.

The new focus on instanced content is now shifting to fractals. The new fractals system is cool and I am enjoying my progression to level 100 (I’m at 94 woot!). But the future does not look so great. FotM currently has five dailies ( one only accessible for those who own HoT). Two dailies are a specific level, one being in the 1-20 range and the other being the 21-50 range. The remaining three dailies simply ask you to complete any 3 levels in the ranges of 1-20, 21-50, and 50+. These dailies provide the main source of loot from FotM as of now. Devs have stated that rewards will change yet again come December. So we will have to see if they actually get a nice buff. But there is still a problem with this system and leads us to decay.

Content Decay

Content decay is a term I will use that means the original content still exists but is not rewarding enough to play beyond the first few times or at all. This is in contrast to a term I see a lot lately—Content Loss. I have heard and read that the release of HoT is actually a content loss for many who did not buy the game. I do not think that to be true. Rather, HoT does bring tons of content decay to the table. Content decay is inevitable in any game. It will always take place. Things like getting best in slot gear or hitting max level cause content decay. Now this means, like any form of chemical or biological decay, rate is an important factor. Here are my biggest concerns with HoT and content Decay.

• Fractals of the Mists: Once a player has reached level 100. The only reward will be from the dailies. This means that you will do two random levels in the 1-20 and 21-50 range and then a combination of Swampland/Molten Duos until the daily is achieved. This means that once someone has completed their achievements for fractals then that person will only enjoy 11% of fractal levels. (all molten duo and swampland levels minus level 90 and 99). This has a high decay rate
• Dungeons: This content is pretty much fully decayed for the majority of players. But it is some of the best, most diverse, and replayble content that ANet has put out and many wish for the return of its rewards.
• Raids: Now I know you are thinking “But Skittles, they aren’t out yet!” and you would be correct. But we know that you will only receive rewards on a weekly basis. This means that our daily content rewards will consist of molten duo and swampland farming. Instead of different instanced contest provided by dungeons. Now I can’t predict what raids will consist of. But I do know that if they do not grab me in a rewarding way my time in the game is dwindling.

I, as many, play this game for the rewards. But I also play this game with my friends. I do not like open world content the same way I like instanced content. Playing with a group of friends is far more enjoyable than running around with some rando that is knocking back every mob before you can hit it.

My Final Statement

By the time raids releases me and my friends will be at FotM level 100. Which means that we will be doing the same dailies over and over and then doing the first raid wing over and over. There will be very little variety compared to that given to us by dungeons. Though dungeons still exist there is virtually no reward for a group of dungeoneers except for those that are termed liquid. So ANet, plis plis gimme doongins back

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Morsus.5106:

I’d be fine with getting the HoT upgrade key and Base Game key separated. Then I could have a second, base account to either use for myself or give to a friend and use the HoT upgrade on my account.

THIS!!!! SO MUCH THIS!!! If the base game is just a free add on then why isn’t everyone who is getting the expansion ALSO getting a “FREE” game? I was told many times growing up nothing is free and I don’t think there is an exception here.

TL;DR: I pretty much agree with OP based on what we have seen. Anet seems to enjoy empowering the bear-bow rangers and WvWers—which is fine—but ultimately the non-casual/hardcore community will get the least out of this expansion.

DieselFueled.3257:

No single update, or patch (including feature patches), is going to surpass the quantity and quality of content HoT will add to the game. I’m not trying to be offensive but assuming or believing otherwise is just ridiculous.

That sounds fine in theory because most expansions in other games are rich in content. However, what we have seen so far is not impressive. I new class that is ridiculously limited skill-wise, and a new type of grind called masteries (which in other MMOs are not fun as the amount of work usually requires you to stop enjoying the fun stuff). But the real problem lies in something else you said:

DieselFueled.3257:

I don’t know everything that’s going to be included in HoT but I can pretty much guarantee that it will be more impressive to all facets of the game than a patch.

Here lies the real problem. You make a claim of grandeur without any basis or evidence. At least OP had evidence. I’m a PvE player but have dabbled in all facets of this game. All I see is sPvP getting a new map, which the new strat is rush the lord—fun—and new specs that will change up the game. The biggest change of pace is the new specs and most of those are coming out in the spec update!

WvW is getting a new map, which will hopefully change up some of the monotony but WvW zergs will also be running new and exciting builds and fostering interest through variety! Oh right…thats in the spec update too…

Now for my area of the game—PvE. It is unquestionable where most of the HoT content will be focused. Majority of everything released is going to be PvE. (I use majority as the largest percentage so don’t assume I’m saying 99%). So far this is what we know: New world maps, Guild halls, Elite specs, mastery, and a new class. New world maps are great…well I mean except southsun, and drytop was fun until silverwastes offered more money. Guild halls could be nice but do you really consider this legitimate and fun content? Its more QoL than fun and provides a convenience over LA…possibly. Elite specs, so far, seem to be more relevant to WvW/sPvP players and to PvE players that suck at the game and run bear/bow. (wait till you see all the dumb Dragon hunters KBing everything you are trying to hit). Though, I am looking forward to what the necro could potentially offer but through the spec update, literally every other class is higher on my priority list. Then there’s the revenant. This dude will probably be fun for the first few weeks but it is ultimately (pending the unreleased spec trees) the most limited class in the game. No weapon or utility swap? I think I’ll end up playing my other 12 80s more following the weeks after release.

Now here is what we don’t know. There has been no mention AT ALL of dungeons. Dungeons are by far the only thing I care about in this game because it allows me to play with my friends without having other nerds and bad players interfere. It is the only game play where it is me, my friends, and my guild. Now I know because they haven’t mentioned it does not mean there won’t be one or two but lets look at the historical data. Remember the big AC patch a while back? Dungeon crew members got fired over that. Have they replaced them? Well we haven’t really seen any improvements to dungeons except for fractals but even then the rewards were messed up. Over the past few months (and really the last year) majority of all updates were world bosses, and living story. It is apparent that dungeons are not a focus of anet. So should I take your word that this expansions content will be impressive and rich? I don’t think I will after weighing these things. I think there will be more content but I do not think that it will be impressive.

P.S. I will be buying the expansion as a last ditch show of trust to Anet but if what I see is just a more complex silverwaste I will be moving on.

P.S.S. I don’t usually post on the forums because of the apparent fanboy vocal minority that posts on the forums.

I think this is an interesting idea. It may be a good option if it can give the party a decent amount of might and provide comparable damage to PS warriors. Staff might still come ahead but you bring up a good point with potential light field builds from guardians.

Also having party might AND fury being completely covered by one class means warriors could go back to high personal DPS specs (assuming, of course, that the ele can really bust out the might and the party can easily make up the difference). There’s no telling what we will get with the elite specs that are to come but if they are good air could be dropped potentially.

Zenith.7301:

Conditions will never be a thing in PvE until they’re allowed to crit and can scale with ferocity, or ferocity is removed and a baseline crit damage bonus goes for all abilities.

It’s not about condition caps, get it in your thick heads. Caps are just a quality of life issue, the real problem is the damage scaling.

Right now condis aren’t viable because you can do more in a shorter time with the current zerker meta. Anets approach has been to slightly reduce the damage from the meta by things like the ferocity change. So essentially they are closing the gap from the top down instead of buffing condis. A buff like you mention would be nice but honestly the procs shouldn’t be based on normal crit chance but something like a condi crit chance that scales differently with precision. The logistics for this would probably suck. If condis procced more and more often then I can see that becoming OP quickly.

Hey guys and gals!

I am looking for a guild with a decent amount of active members (25-40) who are concentrated on doing nightly (US Central TZ) dungeons. I want a guild who takes execution of tactics seriously but not to the point where the mood is heavy. I want a group of people that tend to be humorous more than not (and tolerate alcohol use). I’m not interested in guilds with required builds etc just a guild that suggests meta but variation is ok as long as DPS is emphasized. If you are a min-max guild I’m not your guy anymore.

A little about me:
I have 10 level 80s (all professions + an extra guardian and extra warrior). I play about 2-6 hours daily due to work (I travel a lot for work but when I get home I’m online 24/7 pretty much). With the exception of the extra professions all are geared for meta with most having full ascended gear. I tend to play my Guardian, Engi, Thief, Ele and Warrior the most but I’ll sometimes change it up (except necro cause shes my crafter). I also switch professions based on party comp so I tend towards flexibility. I am lvl 50 FotM and am familiar with all dungeon paths.

If need be I am willing to fill out an application.

-Skittles
All is vain

I am looking for a guild that has a focus on dungeons. I do not want somethings that is all about the max deeps even when its marginal, though I do want people that are conscious of DPS. I’ve grown tired of drama associated with “Hardcore” and just want people who know how to dungeon and run their classes well. I am not interested in record runs or DnT fanboys. If you’re still reading here is a little about me.

I have all classes at 80 plus an extra guardian there as well. Each character has at least full ascended trinkets. My most used characters have full ascended gear. I have fractal 50 unlocked but don’t really enjoy them anymore, I pretty much stick to dungeons. I also don’t actually like skittles…Peanut M&Ms all the way! Also, whiskey Wednesday…on Tuesdays….among other days. I play NA primetime and usually start my dungeon train around reset.

I don’t want a massive guild but instead prefer something around the 50 active member mark or lower. TS or Vent is a must. I do not do dungeons without it. I also do not mind filling out an application.

Feel free to message me on here or in game.
-Skittles

Day = Made….It really captures everything about everything

We have PvP?

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