Guild Wars 2

We don’t know all the details, but before they fled they also waged war on the seers which they won as far as i know. Seems like a strange choice of action if you just want to run away to save yourself.

I would have prefered it, if they released the article a week or two after hot release, so that we could have met them ingame and doubt their claims^^

When it comes to forgotten recruiting humans for the exalted projekt don’t forget that the forgotten had connections with the order of whispers. The forgotten could have easily gotten the order to gather promising people in some secret place where the forgotten then perfomed the tests and rituals. Who knows, maybe some exalted are former whisper agents. Sounds like something like this would be right up their alley.

Well, we have 6 Dragons going for world domination but kinda avoiding fighting each other. So with each cycle a time would come, where only one place is left uncorrupted. If no resistance is left, the dragon closest to it will claim it and all of them call it a day. A respectful nod to each other and they fall asleep.
But if that last place has still some resistance left, the dragons will continue to fight over it. And the longer the fight goes, the closer the elder dragons come. Because why would they hang around in a part of the world that already belongs to them and has no more or not much magic to consume any more? And as far as we know, the 5 Races Alliance did hold out well enough, even if they were losing in the long run. So all dragons, spread out over the world, had a chance to travel to Tyria (continent) to claim it for themselves. Of course they also kept some distance from each other. Even if they aren’t friends, they don’t seem to want to duke it out with each other.
So all Dragons rush in, with those closest having an advantage. Going by their awakening locations (Bubbles and that blocking stuff are just guesses): Zhaitan and Bubbles from south with Zhaitan blocking? Bubbles, Primordus and Jormag from north with Primordus blocking? Jormag, Kralkatorrik from east and Mordremoth from west. And then the Alliance pulls of its magic tricks. The Mursaat hide themselves, the Seer use the Bloodstone to hide Magic, Glint hides the other 4 races (and everyone else). So the last uncorrupted place just goes puff and vanishes. Might have confused the big lizards a bit, but it worked. They finished the round with a “gg, would play again” to each other and fall asleep, waiting for the next round.

And so all of them awake near Tyria (continent) and start doing their thing. They try to claim the place where they already are instead of moving somewhere else in the world. Those farthest away (Bubbles, Jormag) could go in other directions, while their troops move in all directions. If there isn’t something else in Tyria (continent) that is drawing them near. The broken Bloodstones could be such a thing, if they aren’t already consumed or empty.

If the Mursaat become our allies, we should make sure to always have them in front of us. I’m not expecting those guys to have my back. No reason to give them an easy chance for their backstabing. But as the pc we will have to walk in front, don’t we? :/
But of the 5 races, only 2 have direct Reasons to mistrust them. The Humans (White Mantle and co.) and the Charr (they lost a whole army to them). The rest doesn’t have any history with them, so they could get tricked.
Or it will be like GW1. Look, those are our allies! Oh, now that you know the truth, we turn on you and try to kill you! Ah, good times.

Konig Des Todes.2086:

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

I’m still bothered by where Sohothin re-entered the world of Tyria from the Ring of Fire. Given the place erupted, it should have been unmade – gift of the Gods or no, the physical form should still have been destroyed. Clearly that is not so . . . why? And how did it become found?

Something that’s bothered me has been this: was there ever any canon statement that the sword Rurik had post-Exile was Sohothin?

As to its destruction… If the speculation that the Staff of the Mists and Scepter of Orr are god-made too, and the Staff of the Mists required a specific location to be destroyed, maybe Sohothin and Magdaer are the same – only capable of being destroyed when placed on certain locations (such as Hallowed Point).

An easy explanation for Sohothins survival would be glint. She took/teleported the Scepter of Orr and if she new about the sword, why not take it as well? Or Sohothin never was on the Ring of Fire but was left behind in the Shiverpeaks. Both variants sound good to me.
And Magdaer was at least damaged by the Foefire Spell, no special place needed (as far as I know), but it’s hard to say if it was really destroyed and thus wouldn’t have the same power after getting reforged or if it would be as good as new after the fix.
And speaking of the Scepter of Orr, maybe we will find it in the Maguuma again^^

I think the point you are missing is that scarlets age is not the first or one of many but the final drop. It doesn’t matter how small or insignificant it is, it is the final drop that causes the system to break.
And sure enough, the statement doesn’t say all lore is invalid now, but it does say that we can’t trust it because it could become invalid anytime, even without us knowing. Taking scarlets age as an example: we “knew” until now, that the secondborn were born in 1308-1309. So 1304 didn’t make sense. But now we know that this was changed but we were never told. Not in-game, not outside of it. So everything that was based on this number just crumbled away. Of course, that 1304 is also not in-game, but on a t-shirt. So is it true? Is it a lie? Is it subject to change? We don’t know. And maybe we never will.
Sure does take away any motivation for theory-building.

Just some food for thought, but do we know what day the sylvari consider as their birthday? Because technically there are 2 possible choices. When the spark of life hits them and they come into existence inside the dream or when they are released into the real world. I don’t know if they notice the passage of time inside the dream or not, but if they can why would they start counting from their “real” birth instead of from their “dream” birth? And i’m sure the Pale Tree could tell them their real age, if they didn’t count it for themself^^
If i remember correctly the oldest sylvari are supposed to be around 25? in 1325 even so they were released first in 1302. But if they count from the moment they awoke inside the dream, that would make sense to me. This would mean that the firstborne awoke inside the Dream in 1300 and were released 2 years later into the real world.
So even that scarlet t-shirt would make sense with 1304 being her dreambirth and then her real birth happing later. So her turning 16 could be in 1320 even if she only was around for less than 12 years in the real world.

The last written Diary: i wouldn’t count so much on her writing that she won’t use a paper diary ever again. She could have changed her mind later on. Think about new year’s resolutions and how many of them are actually kept. And her Holograms so far were more about her own greatness/achievments/experiments and not about what demons haunted her. Scarlet dosn’t strike me as the person to record a “i’m not feeling well today” in her research log.

The ley-line picture: It looks like it uses the same pattern as the realm of torment and i guess this is were the similaritys end. Scarlet wanted to know how the world works, so maybe she just found one of the pattern that make up the world. You know, like how atoms arrange themself but for magic or something.

Pen and Bloom talk with each other every 7-10 minutes or so. From time to time Pen gets scared and runs away a few meter and Bloom follows her. They return to their old position after a little while.

They only have one Dialog, so if you heard it once, no reason to stick around^^
They talk about walking (somewhere, i guess?) and the only interesting bit is, that pen says: “the jungle is alive with evil”
I wouldn’t call Gendarren fields a jungle, so maybe their destination is the maguma jungle?

Maybe she used up all of her clockwork minions in Lonars Pass. Most of them went there and were destroyed in the process, or not?
She sacrificed them for her trap, so who knows if she has any left.

If those names exist in lore, someone had to come up with them. Or most destroyers aren’t named in lore and are just refered to as destroyers. They usually don’t run around with nameplates and they don’t talk much about themself. The bigger ones could be named by asura. Because their old world and lives were destroyed, i can see why they would name a champion Destroyer of Worlds/Life. Especially if it is a champion that matches descriptions from those times.

Doesn’t this also depend on whether Scarlets troops attack/destroy the tengu gate or not? If her troops get close enough, the tengu will attack them. And i’m sure the Krait or any of the others will attack them for that alone, even if Scarlet ordered them to leave them alone. If Scarlet even sees the tengu as a threat. Didn’t a Dev already state that Scarlet isn’t as kittenhe was anymore, thanks to the voice in her head? So maybe she doesn’t care if the tengu join the battle or not.
It’s one thing to ignore a battle in front of your door. It’s another if your door gets smashed in.

Well, as far as i can remember, we don’t know if the mursaat knew about the titans or what’s on the other side of the door of komalie.
If they knew, wouldn’t they have tried to find a better solution than human sacrifices? Or run away?^^ It seems the only thing they had to go by was Glints prophecies, so they had no idea what was going to hit them.
And another important thing: when did the door of komalie form?

Well, we know two? events that happend there, before we visited it in gw1.
1. The gods hide all bloodstones there
I hope they didn’t dump gigantic magic batteries right next to a door that leads to their brothers prison.

2. The volcano erupts and scatters the bloodstones
I guess this could be the reason for/the effect of the door forming. Maybe the door formed/could form because of all that magic beeing released from the bloodstones in one place.

Or it formed at a later date, but when did the mursaat find the door? Right afterwards to keep it closed forever? I don’t think so. I’m not sure, so correct me if i’m wrong, but i think we don’t know how the different agents of abaddons (those demons in orr/canthe and the titans in Hrangmer) made it into tyria. Well if the door of komalie was not sealed and only guarded by forgotten on one side for some time (maybe months, years?) his agents could have escaped through it. Of course, since he wasn’t so strong at this time, he couldn’t send a whole army through the door. I don’t know how his agents got to their destinations, but i guess they could have walked or used portals. (On a Side note: would a lava titan die while walking through the ocean?)
And just as he was getting ready to conquer Tyria, the mursaat sealed the door because glint had forseen their doom. So Abaddon had to tell his agents from orr to deal with the problem and finish off whoever was responsible for it. Or Khilbron decided on his own that he would punish all that dared to stall his masters plans.
So glint made sure that the mursaat got in abaddons way and because of that the mursaat were attacked by the titans. I think there was no former connection between mursaat and titans.

Maybe thats the way elder Dragons were created (I believe this idea came up in a few other topics). The Magic level was so high, that it formed very big creatures/elementals. And then they acted on instinct to use up and store magic. Or the Elder Dragons were the only ones that were able to survive while the other creatures that were created that way died. Thats how Nature works, right? Things get created randomly and what survives workes. So their corruption could be just a very expensive spell to turn all into something similar to them to use up more magic. The rest of their personality could have formed over time or got influenced by whatever element/stuff that was around when they were formed. Of course, one problem with this could be the star connection the Jotun observed. But we don’t know how that works and it could also be false/incomplete information.

So killing Dragons might not destroy the world, but it could mean that new dragons will form with time or something similar to them.

Answering Questions about how magic works and how the Dragons play into it seems really hard, because we don’t know all rules magic has to follow (Do we even know one?). We know a few things that affected magic or were affected by magic, but again, we don’t know why or how that stuff worked the way it did.

Would be interessting to know if the overall amount of magic on the world is always the same, just stored in different forms or if magic can be used up and needs to be replaced. If it has to be replaced, does the planet produce magic or does it seep in from the mists? And can magic get carried to/away from Tyria by creatures that can leave the planet and travel the mists, like the gods for example?
I would go with the use up and replace option. Even if “use up” only means that the magic that was used for a spell gets turned into an unusable for magic form or leaves the planet (like heat).

Low Magic Levels don’t seem to pose much of a problem besides creatures beeing unable to use magic (i guess) and beeing born without a knack for magic.
High Magic Levels might not be dangerous as well. At least not in the “everything explodes” kind of sense. Of course i can’t be certain, but we have a few cases where concentrated magic seems to be involved. The effects are probably similar.

I could be wrong about some of the following or messed up information, so feel free to point out any mistakes.

Cases where Magic was concentrated in an unnatural way (collected by someone/something)
- Abaddons Death: His power was going to run amok and cause serious damage. But what exactly was going to explode there? Maybe it was the stuff that made him into a god in the first place, but as far as i can tell, most people seem to agree, that that “spark of godhood” or what you want to call it probably can’t be destroyed, so i guess it would not turn into an explosion. I think a part of that power was the magic that he stored inside of him, as all Gods do, so that they can use Magic, even if they land in a place where there is no freely available magic, so that they can use their own magic they are used to. Of course, maybe the gods simply access the magic inside the mists directly and don’t need access to local magic on Tyria. Anyway: concentrated amount of magic —> boundary fails --> big explosion
- Spellcasters that collect too much magic/ too different kinds of magic: (I think this was mentioned in the topic about the Angel McCoy Interview) If a spellcaster does that, it is very likely that he can’t control it and all that magic blows up. So again: concentrated amount of magic —> boundary fails --> big explosion
- Asura Reactors: Asura seem to love to do experiments with magic and collect large amounts of it while doing so. Well, we know what happend to Thaumanova in the end: concentrated amount of magic —> boundary fails --> big explosion
Even if i’m wrong about all of this, it seems most of the time when someone/something works with magic and something goes wrong it explodes.
On the other hand, i can’t remember any mention of random explosions occuring around the world, so i would assume that magic does not concentrate in such a dangerous form naturally. Of course, it could be that a very high magic level creates so much pressure, that magic has to mix in dangerous ways, but right now, i doubt it.

Cases where Magic concentrated in a natural way
- Natural forming elementals: A concentration of magic can cause the creation of elementals. And they also attack people or you could say those that are not similar to them. So they are either very aggressive or they act on instinct to defend nature/their home. So concentrated amount of magic —> (dangerous) elemental/ creature gets created
- The Mists spawns creatures: I’m not sure if this is caused by magic, but i guess the mists are full of magic. But the mists are different from a world like Tyria, so this one could be something else, but the process seems similar. We know demons are created by the mists and we also know that those demons are not very kind guys. At least during GW1 they only appeared as enemys, except for Razah (who is also a creature of the mists). So concentrated amount of magic --> (dangerous) creature gets created

I think this new underwater vortex is a strange skill for an undead dragon, even if he likes swimming
Maybe Tequatl had a little run in with the underwater elder dragon and got corrupted by it or he just gets controlled by it, so that this elder dragon can control parts of Zhaitans army through Tequatl.
Or this new Tequatl is just one that escaped from Orr. Because the strongest Minions stayed near Zhaitan, while he was alive, if i remember correctly.