Guild Wars 2

We need to get this dude on the pvp balance team, because hes so consistent with his changes every patch :’ )

anet should have banned you, hacker boi

I have, warrior should never lose to rev…mesmers are killable too

Warrior isnt OP.

Ice Climber Popo is OP. You’re welcome, warrior fwinds xd

LET ME PLAY Q_Q

Who would cast this tournament, if casted at all? Also can I play in it storm? : )

BetterHappy.2517:

@Sunfish

Your balance idea has a huge gaping hole in the fact that split isn’t the issue, rather casting specifically one elite twice. Moa, is mesmers unique “Anti-Transformation”. Much like chill is the opposite of alacrity (in regards to player icd’s).

Furthermore, nurfing split to the extent you call for would not only nerf Moa application but every other skill mesmers may find a reason to cast in conjunction with split. Example, Double popping well heal.

Don’t tear down an entire building to replace a door…

I’m all for mesmer being given a chance or completely new elite skill in replace to Moa, but:
- If you have transformations that greatly improve player abilities (necro, engi, warrior) it stands to reason that an anti-transformation of some kind should exist.
- If you remove the current functionality of Moa, something must be buffed in it’s place. Moa, is a defining point of the Mesmer class. Something loss, requires something gained. Nerfing Moa for the “state” of the game.

anti transformations are fine. Take elixir X for example. That is an anti transformation. A 10 second moa which kills all your defensives is too powerful of a skill to be able to just be reset on CSplit cooldown.

Personally I don’t think that an issue like this should be prevented from being fixed because of pve’ers, and their timewarp in raids but hey; you gotta be fair.

A lot of people are suggesting to just nerf moa, and allow the split to still work on mesmer elites. Im ok with double mass invis, gravity well, but double timewarp is just as annoying and strong as a moa once/if moa gets nerfed. a 10s 1200 range dome that pulses quickness and slow is just as bad, especially with slow being as strong as it is.

Or we can just all go through with the ‘add a cast time on split change.’

A lot of mesmer mains are going to hate me for this, but I think it would be a good idea to make continuum split not able to be used with an elite skill, or if that’s unreasonable, put any sort of cast time on the split, even if it is a .1ms cast time just so they can’t use it with skills —> moa then split; instead of moa, split at end of cast. Also if theres a cast time, people can cleave out the continuum split summon and force the split to end early….maybe?

Every mesmer atm just picks up the profession and presses moa and continuum splits it. It’s sad that such a cool mechanic like split is optimally used on such a simple combo. I was more for watching the all the shatter mesmers when HoT first came out and they’d do complex shatter combos with their split instead of moa —-—-> split.

Its too powerful, too easy and boring

Cele wells poops on tempest

Hi, welcome to the reason high rated players que with emeralds etc. yourque is 20min, their ques go to 2 hours and time out. This is pvp leagues

aaguilarce.1764:

“Pippin ain’t easy”.

Magic Toker queueing with his “top emerald” friends and 1 diamond.

Btw we lost a pip.

This MMR abuse is a lot similar to the elo boost of League of Legends.

Oh my god you need to stop your waterfall of tears buddy, You dont even know who those players are. Theyre top players that dont have much time to play this game, and one day decided to que with toker. That doesnt make him an mmr abuser, and you need to stop posting that screenshot everywhere like it means something.

I have never seen so much unjustified QQ until pips became a thing. Pips making everyone turn into pure salt

rennlc.7346:

You don’t need to depend on the game to find challenges for you, Sunfish. You could do more duels, 2v2s, or even practice specific situations like 1v2s and 2v1s on specific nodes. I’m sure there are plenty of other players at, near, and beyond your current skill level that would be happy to participate in custom games that focus on honing skills rather than waiting in long queues for a chance at league progression. I bet a bunch of the people willing to do this are already on your friend list.

I’ve done plenty of that. Sometimes you just want to play conquest.

Sorry im not an average player that queues an average amount. I didnt no life to diamond, i just won the games that i played. In fact i didnt even queue for 3 days after i got ruby.

All these people (clearly those who have been stomped) are complaining that i mmr abused and farmed my way to diamond. Why dont you ask anet for my match history? Ive had my fair share of running into 5 mans andgetting stomped because teammates would rather complain than try to win

Hilariously enough this whole thread was about me tryingto solo q, even as a ruby and not getting games, while other lower mmr rubies in my friends list got games

Arcade.8901:

Morwath.9817:

Sunfish.5970:

Ok how about this. Id solo q if i could, but since i get queues that time out, im going to pick up a couple ambers and 2 other diamonds and continue to farm the people that want to ignore a problem. Happy queueing

And I hope you get banned for matchmaking manipulation if you do so, happy quequeing

Watch out he threatens to farm someone who ignores his " que time problems ". I mean OMG.

I did no such thing :o

But if i cant solo q, and people say its my fault, guess the only way i can play is to do the thing they hate most and queue with a group xD

Morwath.9817:

Sunfish.5970:

Ok how about this. Id solo q if i could, but since i get queues that time out, im going to pick up a couple ambers and 2 other diamonds and continue to farm the people that want to ignore a problem. Happy queueing

And I hope you get banned for matchmaking manipulation if you do so, happy quequeing

Why would i get banned for queueing with my newly found amber pals?

Ok how about this. Id solo q if i could, but since i get queues that time out, im going to pick up a couple ambers and 2 other diamonds and continue to farm the people that want to ignore a problem. Happy queueing

Morwath.9817:

Sunfish.5970:

We play pvp to play pvp. It’s up to the system to match us with players on our level. If i decide to queue alone, I don’t get queue pops, so what do you suggest I do? Pve? I dont play that. Pvp? Queues arent popping :p. Only way i actually get to play the game is to queue with lower mmr players in my party.

First, if you wouldn’t duo/triple/5man Q before and only solo/duo, you wouldn’t have problem now. You may consider it funny, but Rom or Helseth doesn’t have your issue.

Second, you got separate MMR in Unranked. You can try to play there until Anet fix this and/or there will be more people close to your MMR in Ranked.

Rom and helseth dont queue as much as I do, or they dont queue with friends as much as I do, once again you shouldn’t punish players for playing your game.

I havent tried the unranked thing, and probably will just start playing unranked so i can get queue pops, but who knows, maybe my mmr there is high af too :p

rchu.8945:

Power.2957:

I really don’t get why so many people have come in here to complain about Sunfish.

I do agree the current state of “soloers being farmed by premades” is bad and that bringing back SoloQ would entirely solve the issue. But that is not the point of this thread.

I can’t really fault people for making teams of 4 diamonds and an amber. All of the people who are diamond right now predominantly play the game to play PvP. As Sunfish has highlighted above, without “abusing” the system, high-division players are forced to endure egregious queue times that even time out. (Even worse yet, all while, imprisoned inside the PvP lobby, literally unable to do anything else). What are these players supposed to do? Sit back for days to weeks and wait in 2-hr queues that don’t even pop until the rest of the game catches up? That’s pretty s—tty for people who do nothing but PvP. They’re literally being punished for being effective. If I was waiting out 2 hour queue times, other than contemplating quitting, you’re DAM- RIGHT I would look for every possible avenue to reduce my queue times, whether the playerbase at large considers it “dishonorable” or not.

The issues plaguing sPvP right now are entirely ArenaNet’s fault and you shouldn’t fault other players for doing what they can to cope with the current situation.

your defense is false logic, if all the diamond players are playing the game mode for PvP as in “competitively”, drop MMR to have faster que time but with opponents that probably way below the skill level is not playing the game mode “competitively”. THat’s call farming. In PvE you kill mobs that are easy and fast to get items or experience, so please stop defend these pro players are playing league now for competition, they are not.

We play pvp to play pvp. It’s up to the system to match us with players on our level. If i decide to queue alone, I don’t get queue pops, so what do you suggest I do? Pve? I dont play that. Pvp? Queues arent popping :p. Only way i actually get to play the game is to queue with lower mmr players in my party.

Power.2957:

I really don’t get why so many people have come in here to complain about Sunfish.

I do agree the current state of “soloers being farmed by premades” is bad and that bringing back SoloQ would entirely solve the issue. But that is not the point of this thread.

I can’t really fault people for making teams of 4 diamonds and an amber. All of the people who are diamond right now predominantly play the game to play PvP. As Sunfish has highlighted above, without “abusing” the system, high-division players are forced to endure egregious queue times that even time out. (Even worse yet, all while, imprisoned inside the PvP lobby, literally unable to do anything else). What are these players supposed to do? Sit back for days to weeks and wait in 2-hr queues that don’t even pop until the rest of the game catches up? That’s pretty s—tty for people who do nothing but PvP. They’re literally being punished for being effective. If I was waiting out 2 hour queue times, other than contemplating quitting, you’re DAM- RIGHT I would look for every possible avenue to reduce my queue times, whether the playerbase at large considers it “dishonorable” or not.

The issues plaguing sPvP right now are entirely ArenaNet’s fault and you shouldn’t fault other players for doing what they can to cope with the current situation.

Thank you for putting it so clearly. Although im not sure you’re allowed to have such a sensible answer on these forums. :p

Sol.4310:

Sunfish.5970:

Sol.4310:

I find this rather funny but at same time I also understand, you shouldn’t be forced to wait to play the game it’s rather fail system but at same time what you get for farming solo que’ers in au timezone…. karma’s a kitten it seems.

trio queing with friends isnt farming, and that long que time is just solo. solo me into a 5 man for all I care, i just want to play the game. I dont recall playing with any other esl player in au timezone :p

I do understand it sucks the whole league system is designed to punishes players who team up to make there way up the divisions. Also punished for trying to grind to get the final reward which many I believe want.

I just found this funny because you farmed me last night with your pre-made, felt like bit of karma, gave me good laugh.

The premade was me and my pve friends, and you only got upset because you werent the one farming, which you do constantly when your team is on :p. Regardless, this was meant to address queue times and divisions. Shouldnt punish players for playing the game.

Sol.4310:

I find this rather funny but at same time I also understand, you shouldn’t be forced to wait to play the game it’s rather fail system but at same time what you get for farming solo que’ers in au timezone…. karma’s a kitten it seems.

trio queing with friends isnt farming, and that long que time is just solo. solo me into a 5 man for all I care, i just want to play the game. I dont recall playing with any other esl player in au timezone :p

Arcade.8901:

Sunfish.5970:

didn’t mind losing to pz, I mind not getting queue pops. and how am i meant to queue with 2 ambers, when all my friends are ruby or above? That isn’t a solution.

I thought you just wanted games, now, you want games but with friend list who are ruby ? Makes sense.

You know there are loads of ambers running around HoTm waiting for your ninja invite ?

wot?

DisplayName.7802:

@Sunfish Want to just que up sometime w/ poop? :P We are trying to get diamond also but we just keep facing the farmer teams. But our que is only 7-8 mins long.

Also! Do you get demoted back to ruby when you lose? (or not)

You cant drop divisions

HEDRO.2345:

Sunfish.5970:

Anet, you’ve said that the queue times will get better once the majority of the population catches up, but that’s so far proven to be false, at least in my case.

So who exactly is the system trying to match me up against? This is ridiculous and I cant even play the game……..anet please.

I knew one of these threads was gonna show up..
Yes… when the MAJORITY catches up it will get better.. if you had stopped grinding as a 5 in saph/ruby. But no… the MAJORITY of people are not playing everyday as a 5 stack trying to do 3/4 a division every. day.

There is most likely (AND SHOULD BE) a max amount of divisions apart for it to form a team, before counting parties.
You can not honestly expect there to be 4-9 other Rubies for it to match you with an ANYTIME of the day… or Sapphires when you first got into ruby.
If you want constant matches maybe don’t BREAK and MANIPULATE your way to a higher tier than a large amount of the player base. Simple as that.

I hope you didn’t expect any sympathy from the community that you have been farming and (preventing from getting to higher divisions)<All you stupid kittens made your own grave so go ahead and lay down til your queue pops.

I dont expect any sympathy, All I want is to play games. I didnt 5 man farm my way to diamond, i queued with friends, whether it was duo, trio, or quad/5 man. I win most of my games so i progressed quickly.

This thread was made with the purpose of questioning why 4 diamonds and an emerald got 6x more queue pops than I did. I dug my own grave by playing the game? Seems legit.

Arcade.8901:

Sunfish.5970:

I would have loved to facing a 5 man as a solo instead of waiting 2 hours for my queue to abandon.

I’m not asking for solo queue, im asking for the chance to play the game. Put me up against 5 mans, I don’t care, or when im solo queueing as a high mmr player (or what ever the reason Im getting these long queue times are) just put me with lower mmr players. I’d gladly play with low mmr players on my team if the other team is also low mmr, but this is just ridiculous.

Dude, take 2 ambers in your team and que, otherwise stop whining, you have solution. Maybe ll learn how to carry and won’t loose to PZ again.

didn’t mind losing to pz, I mind not getting queue pops. and how am i meant to queue with 2 ambers, when all my friends are ruby or above? That isn’t a solution.

DisplayName.7802:

@Sunfish, did you get diamond solo queing? or with a team?

I got diamond by duo queueing, trio queueing, some solo, and some 5 mans. Majority of the time I try to just invite some of my pve friends to queue with me so I get to get queue pops.

I would have loved to facing a 5 man as a solo instead of waiting 2 hours for my queue to abandon.

I’m not asking for solo queue, im asking for the chance to play the game. Put me up against 5 mans, I don’t care, or when im solo queueing as a high mmr player (or what ever the reason Im getting these long queue times are) just put me with lower mmr players. I’d gladly play with low mmr players on my team if the other team is also low mmr, but this is just ridiculous.

Think imma just get on my account without HoT so i can play gw2 on amber. Thanks anet, its been fun

………………………………………………………….hey so for those of you who didnt know. Queues automatically abandon themselves at 2 hours, and I have no intention of queueing up another 2 hours just for it to auto abandon again. I literally cannot play the game even if I want to.

a team of 4 diamonds and an emerald (5 man) have played 6 games since I’ve been in my queue, and then it AUTO kittenING ABANDONS ITSELF REALLLLY. REAAAAAAAAAALYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

Im on an adventure!

Just a quick update, queue is now 1.5 hours (solo), meanwhile friends that are both lower mmr and high mmr are getting queue pops left, right, and center. hello?

Anet, you’ve said that the queue times will get better once the majority of the population catches up, but that’s so far proven to be false, at least in my case.

When I was ruby, and many others were ruby, I would still be in queues for an hour or more if i tried to solo queue, while other rubies would get quick 5 minute queue pops. I know mmr takes a part into the queue times, but this is just plain stupid.

Now that i’m im diamond, here i am sitting in a 1 hr 11 minute queue (still going as I type this, since I have so much time on my hands) and im unable to play the freaking game mode that I want. People won’t catch up, because either theyll never get to diamond/legend, or ill always be ahead and stuck in these unreasonable queue times.

At least make it so that if i solo queue, i can get pops with lower mmr players. Guild wars 2 isnt a game where a high mmr player in a low mmr game will be able to 1v5 or anything of the sort.

I got an insta pop once when i logged on into a 5 man PZ premade, which i was ok with since I just want to play the game, and then i queued up again, while they got a pop into 5 lower mmr players while im still sitting pretty even unable to get pops with high mmr players.

So who exactly is the system trying to match me up against? This is ridiculous and I cant even play the game……..anet please.

Its sad to say that these queue times are my average that I always end up cancelling since I give up on the queue pop, I have to resort to queueing with a bunch of unskilled players vs top tier players and its not even close to fun

(Icing on the cake is being unable to queue from outside of the mists, since anet promised me quicker queue times when leagues came out and when HoT came out, its cool though!)

The V.8759:

Highlie.7641:

The V.8759:

can you define what you are talking about? Your post really doesn’t clear anything up.
If you are talking about rev downed skill 1, it’s not an autoattack.

Words of ego boosting.

How is that ego boosting? It is just a question. If you are talking about rev downed skill 1, you can’t let it automaticly attack. So it’s no autoattack. Just clarifying that.

ok let me clarify then, slow on a downstate “1 skill” that has no cooldown and can be spammed, aka perma slow is stooooooooopid.

not that that point mattered at all =]

Sagat.3285:

It’s because revenant has a hard time staying alive in combat especially in team fights that was a somewhat similar case for prepatch necro.

Don’t be fooled….

cant tell if sarcasm or stupid : C

who was the genius that thought that slow on an auto attack was a good idea? by far the most op condi in the game.

You cant cleave because youre slow and the downed auto does a billion damage?, they have the shortest cast time knockback in downstate compared to every other downed state cc

slow on auto??????

im have no words.

??????

AzureSky.3175:

Sunfish.5970:

OH IM ANET IM GONNA FORCE YOU TO PVE FOR A STAFF SKIN THEN WASTE YOUR TIME IN A LONG kitten STORY INSTANCE THAT DISCONNECTS AT THE VERY END OH BOY OH BOYYYYYYY

wow, so constructive!

Thanks!

OH IM ANET IM GONNA FORCE YOU TO PVE FOR A STAFF SKIN THEN WASTE YOUR TIME IN A LONG kitten STORY INSTANCE THAT DISCONNECTS AT THE VERY END OH BOY OH BOYYYYYYY

Let’s be real here. This is one of the biggest issues DH has, and needs to be addressed.

Interruptable f2, and f3 should NOT put the virtues on full cooldown. This goes especially for stability virtue. INTERRUPTABLE STABILITY??? Please anet.

I already gave 2 suggestions on how to address this issue, and I assume theyre pretty reasonable, but no it grabbed no attention. My forum history has these suggestions if you are curious. Virtues need to be fixed.

The problem with suggesting solo queue to anet, with the threat of the population declining will not work.
This is because ever since solo queue has been removed, the pvp population has only been growing….by a big amount too. Anet will dismiss this argument quickly.

However, correlation does not mean causation. The pvp population has been growing for different reasons, the only thing you can do, is try to sell the fact that solo queue will only bring positive aspects into the game, and allow the population to grow even larger than it is now.

No I love bow 3, go away

Lol amazing. How long I’ve wished for it not to be projectiles. While they’re at it they should fix the fact that sword 3 doesn’t destroy reflected projectiles, and also suck at hitting the target

If they really wanna prove that they listen to the forums, this is the easiest thing they can do. My longbow, sword focus build literally gets countered by any projectile destruction, despite me using a melee weapon.

I actually think this is a great idea. It makes it so that if you are cc’d, or forced into invulnerability, you can press f4 (which will be insta cast) to switch your virtues to standard guardian, so you can use a “weaker” version of the virtue, while cc’d or invuln. Please implement this, even if it cant be done before HoT!

It’s the solution we’ve been all looking for.

P.S. Guardians need some sort of movement speed trait/skill, whatever

it is bugged with the trap trait. without the trait it still hits twice, instead of 3 times.

Virtues

F1 – Should have a Pulsing cripple. At the moment its useless for anything thats not a burn guard, and burn guard should not take the DH line.

F2 – Should not go on full cooldown if interrupted (it only removes immob, but that means you dont get your heal and cleanse if traited with absolute resolution)

F3 – You shouldn’t have to be forced to cover your stability. If your cast is interrupted in its 1/4s cast time, you dont get any stability, and it goes on full cooldown.

Virtues unusable while invulnerable? something has to be done about that :\. In high tier, a guardian can be forced into invuln so quickly if theyre marauder or any other dps amulet

Longbow

#1 – Really polished right now, perfect.
#2 – People are suggesting to remove the ‘rooting’ effect, but the root is fine, considering how powerful the skill is
#3 – I enjoy where this skill is at right now, the skill-shot part of it is actually cool, and you are able to interrupt blocks with it if you aim it correctly, and you still have your Heavy Light passive.
#4 – This skill’s cast time is a little too long for my liking, it really needs to be quicker, and even a little bit larger of a radius. Sometimes just spamming auto attacks is better than wasting your time using this symbol.
#5 – This skill is really powerful where it is at. It’s damage is really poor, but that’s not why the skill is great. Problem is sometimes the rings do not spawn if an enemy is a bit too far away, or something? Not entirely sure, but the rings aren’t consistent.

Traps

Fragments of Faith – This trap is currently bugged when taking the “Piercing Light Trait” and will hit for 1 extra time than intended. Other than that, this trap is actually still very powerful, and worth the utility slot.

Test of Faith – I actually enjoy this trap too, however its a little bit lack luster. It needs to do damage initially, and have some sort of effect when standing inside. Too easily is this trap rendered useless

Procession of Blades – Terrible trap…..Won’t ever be using this.

Light’s Judgement – A very situational trap that is also not worth the utility spot. Other professions have a more reliable reveal that they also have easier access to (Engi Tools Analyse, and toolbelt on gyro, and revenant)

Overall Dragonhunter still needs to be refined a little more, mainly in the virtues aspect. Elite virtues should not be worse than standard virtues. At least make them just as useful.

Dragonhunter has been going in the right direction, but it still needs a little work……mainly the virtues.

The virtues are lackluster, and aren’t a polished mechanic at this stage.

Virtue of Justice: This Virtue doesn’t really offer anything other than a pulsing 2 stacks of burn, and a 1k initial hit (on marauder). The pulsing burn isnt the greatest, because burn guard wont really want to take the dragonhunter line, and dps and bunker guard both get nothing out of it. This virtue needs to offer more to guardians, especially if there’s a trait that lowers the cool down of this virtue if you successfully block.

My suggestion is to allow it to have a pulsing cripple, so that it actually is effective on any sort of guardian build, and that also allows it to synergise well with the damage increase on crippled enemies. This obviously puts the trait “Big Game Hunter” in the spotlight, since tethered enemies are hit for 10% extra damage, but this trait is lackluster at this stage, and stacking this and cripple damage will make it so those traits are considered to be taken when creating a build

Virtue of Resolution: This virtue is actually really powerful where it is. a 4k heal on marauder, and its skill shot + small radius makes it so landing it on team mates is something that could be really clutch. However, my issue with it is….because it cleanses immob at the start of the cast, if it is interrupted, the heal and cleanse is also interrupted if you traited for the 3 cleanse in virtues.

possible solution could be to make the effect of the virtue at the start of a cast, and have a separate heal for the landing to land team mates or just for mobility? Something needs to change, because an interrupt should not put this on full cooldown

Virtue of Courage: the 1/4 cast time is odd. I’ve already confirmed that if you get interrupted while casting this virtue, you actually do not receive your stability (when traited). Possible solution? Make stability instant, and at the end of the cast time, you get the new function block?

Virtues in general are the only thing right now that are lackluster for dragonhunter, id still much prefer my old virtues with dragonhunter than these new ones. Also the issue of not being able to use virtues while invulnerable needs to be addressed somehow. being forced into Renewed focus without being able to use virtues is something top teams can consistently do. at least make it so that the virtues are easier to complete casting when being focused.

Overall DH has potential, it’s actually quite strong right now because of the fragment trap. But if that trap is bugged, then Dragonhunter might just go back to being unviable again (in a pvp sense)

Alternative. Dont force us to wait in hotm for 10 minutes waiting for a queue pop =D. id rather be able to do something in the game than look at a nicer looking hotm.

cleanse the burn. dodge the burn. kitten is literally telegraphed with a buff on them, then a long cast time. dont run out of purging flames. they shouldnt actually be able to burn you unless you’re bad, or they immobd you into it with judges.

Not going to deny that a monkey could play burn guardian, but a monkey can also outplay a burn guardian. Learn the class, stop the qq.

This is a 21 minute queue…….my average has been just under 10 minutes for a while now actually, especially during this time zone.

I hope leagues make the queue times better, but what if there are outliers in MMR, or if there are just different time zones that just naturally have longer queue times, and then the combination of a slow time zone + outlier in MMR. Is that player going to be forced to wait in heart of the mists for 10 minutes to play a 10 minute game?

There must be a solution to this issue. Even if the system is just reverted to the way it used to be. 4v5’s still happen with this system. Granted I don’t have the data to prove that it has gotten better or worse, or even if it changed at all, but im sure the majority wouldn’t mind as much if we were not trapped in heart of the mists.

There have been countless threads about this topic, and each of them usually have a proposal to solve this issue, and all of them are not even acknowledged.

Pvp is going to pull in a lot of new players now. The players that are left are the ones that have stuck it out through thick and thin, but the newer players that you want to pull into the game will not keep playing the game based on some false hope that one day the system will get better.

What about those popular streamers? What if they start to play gw2 and really enjoy gw2 pvp? They queue up and 50% of the stream time is heart of the mists. Is that the way Gw2 should be advertised?

Take this issue a little more seriously please.

A good idea would be to make it so we can see our last 3 game’s statistics in a new tab in the pvp window

I can queue up for Ranked arenas AND Unranked arenas at the same time? I personally don’t mind what I play, I just want a quicker queue pop. Id rather not wait 15minutes per queue at this timezone (you can check my queue time history around this time yesterday, and today).

I’m sure most people would agree that at this point we just want queue pops