Guild Wars 2

Can’t place siege anywhere. Gives “You cannot place siege weaponry here!”. Tried inside keep and out on open field. Basically it’s a shorter list of features that work. Walking, skills etc work. Everything related to WvW mechanics are broken.

Gab Superstar.4059:

Svarty.8019:

Gab Superstar.4059:

Multiple times your 15+ groups have been wiped by my group of 5 (one being under leveled, mind you). I find it extraordinarily

snip I find it extraordinarily unlikely that you ever have anything smaller than 60 people anywhere on any map. Please don’t come to us with this “handful” gibberish, we know your hands are enormous.

Honey please, when I said 15 everyone knows I was talking about the guys keeping JP safe in your own BL. Everyone knows GH never runs around with anything smaller than a group of 120 players. I have personally wiped these massive zergs with only one mesmer and a superior ballista. You mean nothing to me, and neither does your “gibberish”.

In fact, FS can capture our entire borderland with just 5 people. One underleveled with starting gear on, 3 afk, and the last one crushing our massive 240 people zerg with his godlike powers and massive ego. That is if he can be bothered with it, and can spare the time from keeping his ego from gravitational collapse.

Look, whatever. It’s the fact that attackers can field 2x the numbers defenders can. Moreover it makes sense for attackers to hit defenders and leave each other alone, resulting in a local 2v1 situation. We all do that, it’s nothing. GH’s problem is we can fill one borderland + a dozen or so on others. FS can probably fill our BL, their own and EB simultaneously on prime time. Same for AM. So we are fighting 2v1 on the only BL we can have presence in, and have outmanned buff everywhere else, ofc it feels like double teaming when it’s really not.

Ironvos.9014:

Ok i admit that map does look ugly like a 2v1.
But if you look closely, we only took ogres from you, and our outbreak tower, the rest is camps.
Seems like it’s the germans that have settled for second place already that is your main problem.

Right, while we were fighting the AM zerg with a handful of players at mendons (we had the outmanned buff), you took ogres, anza and both our camps. Well we managed to kill the 4 trebs AM had and wipe them shortly afterwards (again, around 10 of us vs 20+ of them). Then we found the FS zerg of another 20 odd players had breached our keep outer gate. Came and wiped you too, and while this was going on AM went back with several superior rams and took mendons.

I realize this might be a coincidence, but this evening has been total bullkitten from our perspective. For many many hours neither FS nor AM touched each other on any BL and you both outnumbered us. Well I got so annoyed at this bs I went and flipped all your camps twice over on both AM and FS border. Didn’t keep them for long ofc, but downgraded em all, including one fully upgraded. Enjoy.

Well here we are again,
It’s always such a pleasure,
Remember when you tried to kill us twice?
Oh, how we laughed and laughed,
Except I wasn’t laughing,
Under the circumstances I’ve been shockingly nice.

You want your higher tier take it,
That’s what I’m counting on,
I used to want you dead but,
Now I only want you gone.

She was a lot like you,
(Maybe a bit more zergy),
Now little AM is in here too.

Seriously though, good luck and have fun everyone. I think this will be an interesting matchup. AM is so different from AG, the way you fight. Both effective in your way. FS is pretty similar to GH.

Beri.3156:

Coral Dae.9305:

Matt.7413:

FURY are not elite and we do not specifically recruit or force our members to play builds. Yes we are a WVW based guild, but heck a lot of girls are on our server. We like to win, we all do, but that does not make us elite.

Cheers
Aeyana x

… come again? ‘a lot of girls play on our server’= not being elite? Or you can’t force girls to play well? Or you can’t recruit girls? What? What exactly do you mean by that?

Oh, Aeyana, Aeyana… :P You made me laugh!
ticks off another reason never to join FURY in WvW on AG :P

Oh come on Coral. Use ur brains if u have them. just incase u don’t have them i’ll explain it to you. Matt was answering to another post and stated that we have many girls playing in our server. Also he said that FURY do not recruit one specific characters to their guild. They are not so called “elite” guild. They are WvW focused guild like other WvW focused guilds.

I’m still confused. What has gender have to do with anything?

EDIT:

Sorry, can i just correct my self on this, i don’t know why i wrote “girls” as the word suppose to be used was “guilds”.

That explains it, thanks!

Zephyer.5716:

P.s. gotta get myself in those duels that I read about in the JP Screenies anyone?

Sure! There’s a duel going on in the back, some flashy mesmer stuff. And there’s Beastys apologizing to the GoT warrior whose duel he interrupted earlier – he was really sorry about that one.

Svarty.8019:

Teutooni.9572:

we heard of a mesmer lift in EB JP

You’re welcome

<3

Had a really peculiar evening. Started off as a single CHvc party of 5 going camp flipping with lowbie alts. More joined, and soon we got nearly 15 lowbies, some with little more than starting gear on. After a while of dicking about, dodging anything resembling a real fight, we heard of a mesmer lift in EB JP, so we went there. Strangely there was a spontaneous dueling ring going on there. FS and GH people were scattered around the entrance area, two people would go to the middle and bow to sign the start of the duel. Stayed and spectated for a while. Then I went to marvel at our very recently captured Stonemist and noticed something really funny going on at north gate. What looked like a small Shiverpeaks zerg was spamming all kinds of siege everywhere, just planting them not finishing. Some were even alpha siege golems, right in the range of the walls. I think at least 20 pieces total. A part of me shuddered at such waste of equipment. What was up with that?

Anfauglith.6715:

I said that IT(not you)s stupid to be proud of something when you personally didnt done it.

For the last time I say this. The matchup that sparked this “superior mobility and organization” mantra was the first week of three with GH vs RoF vs WSR. We had just lost to RoF last matchup, and decided to have none of it anymore. So we organized, and we mobilized what we had. And we won that match. Simple as that. Back then we didn’t have any influx of people (except Impact, a 10ish people group). After that match we got some more people join us, TCS among them, but that first win we kitten well earned, and can be rightfully proud of. Sure 2nd and 3rd week especially were stomps, but not many were boasting then anymore.

We never said (or at least I didn’ think so) RoF or WSR were bad or had inferior organization. You had good guild groups running and decent commanders, NP and HxH to name some. The only thing we said we had superior organization and mobility compared to what we had the week before, to explain our success. The distinction might be easy to miss, but it is important.

Now let’s get back to the current matchup, shall we? I’m sure FSP and AG don’t give a kitten about GH’s past with RoF.

CHvc != GH. I guess they wiped some other group. He was talking about bay, I don’t think GoT spent much time in hills today. That’s not to say we didn’t wipe twice, in fact I think we wiped like 20 times. Good laughs though. Like Phetid wanting to go out in a blaze of glory and leading the 10-15 of us to portal bomb your catas, and all of us getting downed in a nanosecond vs a ball of NP, KISS and LoE.

I see you got hills eventually. Shame I had to log.

To NP, LoE, rddt, KISS, AoA and everyone else who have been sieging our hills all evening: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGtmf_PTb7k

maloki.3527:

ThomasKreshant.6572:

lol it was interesting I’ll say that but omg it was a total lag fest at one point I couldn’t activate a single spell or change attunement for 10 minutes

Tbh next time a 3 way like that seems to be happening I’m going the other direction and going to pick flowers or something and save my keyboard from being bashed to death

Sounds like an amazing fight

I wasn’t in this one, but having fought in an 8-hour long 3-way siege in lords room between GH, WSR and RoF, I can say it’s not that amazing. With close to 300 people in one room, you can’t cast any skills without hammering the key for 10 seconds, can see hardly anyone outside a 3 meter radius around you, and the FPS lag is pretty bad on an older system too with a hundred flashy effects going off every second.

maloki.3527:

Phetid.1802:

At @ Maloki – that green half of your bordelands at prime time last night (for periods more than half of your borderlands). That was ours.

FSP had super bugged queues yesterday, we could not go over to FSP and defend, which is a “great excuse” it is both true and a good reason for us to have painted the rest of Gunnar’s map Blue.

Heh, we saw our border had zero green at one point, but reportedly there was a queue. We could have come there, but didn’t want to risk some of us having to queue for who knows how long and splitting us up. So we stayed at FSP hills and made ourselves cozy.

holska.4127:

Teutooni.9572:

Wow, first some from FSP try to openly make an alliance with Miller’s. Miller’s refuses and now some act kitten when Miller’s attacks you using standard 3- way tactics – As if you were entitled to Miller’s cooperation. The arrogance is mind boggling. But I’m sure these are just a few bad elements and not representative of the whole server. :-)

All tactics are useful only situationally. TryGoogleThis illustrated that the “standard” 3-way tactic you used wasn’t very useful in that situation as you actually lost points instead of gaining them. It would be a snapshot in time that could be undone before the next point ticks, but since you do the same repeatedly and it’s very easily countered it’s actually a loosing strategy.

Fair enough – I’m not here to defend Miller’s. I also umm… might have been in a slightly agitated state of mind writing that reply after getting ganked by 3 FSP thieves (you do seem to have an unusually high percentage of them :P), and I apologize. Doesn’t mean I like how you criticize other servers’ strategy like that – it’s mostly the way you put it, not the fact you are criticizing. I have not seen any flashes of unparalleled brilliance from any of us. ~~

Regarding Gunnar’s performance during non-xaoc hours, well it’s a mess sometimes. Being pressured by determined groups from both FSP and MS who each match our numbers can be daunting if we have no organized events or guild raids scheduled. Something we will have to learn to deal with one way or another. Remember we were in tier 8 not too long ago. Still, I love the fights. /Salute to FSP and Miller’s for being honorable and skilled opponents.

Wow, first some from FSP try to openly make an alliance with Miller’s. Miller’s refuses and now some act kitten when Miller’s attacks you using standard 3- way tactics – As if you were entitled to Miller’s cooperation. The arrogance is mind boggling. But I’m sure these are just a few bad elements and not representative of the whole server. :-)

Well points-wise this is one of the most balanced matchups. Only thing that bothers me is the queue bugging out. We had queue on our own BL, and when I finally got in I found 30, maybe 40 people after hours of wandering around. Have you FSP or MS folks experienced same?

Tier 1
Vizunah
Deso
Elona

Tier 2
SFR
Augury Rock
Kodash

Tier 3
BB
Jade Sea
Gandara

Based on random gut feeling and the fact Piken seems to be in trouble internally. Also, I think people predicting Gunnar’s in tier 2 are a bit too optimistic. Well, not just a bit. Unless GH gets a massive boost in players all of a sudden, I predict tier 5 or 6 based on current activity levels. Maybe 4.

Only a wvw player would feel the urge to violently murder a bunch of cute Quaggans for making false alarms.

Don’t go declaring this match boring or over yet. Fort Ranik is 10 points per tick behind right now, and seem to have decent numbers on all borderlands. I say decent, not super zergy. Groups of 10-30 people, and there’s action everywhere. Nothing like last match where there was nothing going on 99% of time and then a single 50 man zerg wrecking ball golem rushing everything.

Homonavn.6348:

Because ALL the big WvW guilds on ring of fire and whiteside ridge changed to Gunnars hold.

We are the zerg. Your servers’ WvW population will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.

Seriously though, I’m sorry if this feels frustrating. With the announcement of paid transfers most of the tiers are skewed right now. Next week you’ll have other servers to face, although Surmia will probably give you a similar beating. Give the glicko ranking system time to adapt to server balance changes.

Hats off to both WSR and RoF for puting up a good fight at around 9→ pm gmt. I hear you even took stonemist. I really wish I didn’t have to log so early (gmt +2 here), since that was the first bit of interesting fights this week.

Invitations to powerful guilds from other servers are frequent. It is not the inviters’ fault if they desert. CIR, ThUn et al would probably have moved soon with or without Xaoc/Blacktide. Yes, I among many other Gunnars’ players condemned the initial move of Xaoc to Vabbi. We (afaik) also refused the alliance that went to Surmia. So I can see how this seems hypocritical.

Things have changed though. Blacktide is already dropping like a stone. Surmia is on the rise, nothing we can do about that. The rankings will be skewed whatever we do. Long before any Xaoc set foot on our server there was constant whine about our numbers and how imbalanced T8 was. I do not mean to brag but we were ticking 600 ppt a few hours after reset. It was pretty clear “keeping this tier balanced” was no longer possible. With the help of our Russian comrades I hope we can find balanced matches in the tiers above.

I sympathize with WSR and RoF (especially RoF, since they have a fight against Surmia ahead of them), and hope you can still find enjoyable fights this week.

Nakara.7108:

Oh I don’t imply it – I say it open: you don’t win fairly.

Oh wow, what prompted this? First week we faced each other, RoF won the matchup. You guys made the notorious alliance with RoS, and stomped on GH. Then RoS dropped and was replaced by WSR. At that point we had just lost yet another matchup, didn’t have any transfers in yet, just the same old hardened bunch we had since forever. And we beat you. What about that win was not fair? Did we cheat? Did we spy? Did we vastly outnumber you? What?

Since then we have had this internal bandwagon effect, more PvE players dipping their toes in wuvwuv, and some transfers. Sure now the matchup is no longer fair, but the point is we did not need any of this to win fair and square two weeks ago. Most of it is out of our control anyway. Xaoc approached us in a very mature and friendly manner, what should we say? kitten off we want to be stuck fighting WSR and RoF for all eternity?

Neandramathal.9536:

Well whether Gunnar’s consider my guild an asset or not is up for question too :P

You guys are scrubs. I mean, look at Freyn, he’s not even a real norn. I have seen humans that are taller than him!

On a more serious note, both Imp and TCS have been a huge asset to the community. The thing with Gunnar’s is we support each other. You can call it getting carried, I call it getting involved – both giving and receiving support.

Wenissa.2967:

Every fight in our bordeland I was in bar one this evening and we were outgunned 2 : 1 minimum.

When fighting against Gunnar’s Hold, you are always outgunned.

Earlier weeks when we fought RoF, we usually had several groups of 10-20 people hitting different targets on a BL. RoF took this large blob of 30-40 players and stomped a group, waypointed and stomped another. We had to adapt. We now still have groups of around 20 people but make sure they can come to each others’ aid when need be. So the comment of this matchup getting zergy is a bit ironic.

Regarding [XaoC] tags, we have a few of their members currently scouting us out, like many other servers. Can’t say I’m overjoyed about the prospect of them joining with all the recent drama they’ve been involved in. We also have some [rddt] officers from WSR doing the same. So don’t panic (yet).

Ventus.9483:

Some of our commanders have swapped focus from our BL into EB encroachment, and tower de-grading this week. The SM attacks have been persistent, and afaik, literally only continue because they are an annoyance lol.

We’re always a threat, since it only takes 10 people to embarrass either side I think we’ve mostly just been focussed on the ‘kittens n giggles’ this week

Well I feel this is more like little sister tickling her older brother just to see when he’ll snap and start chasing, as opposed to the somewhat more serious fights we’re having with RoF. Yes, 10 people can be a threat. I don’t want to give you any ideas, but 10 could quickly golemrush an entire BL at certain time of day when there is literally no defenders online.

Krosan.2890:

I get the whole organisation thing but its not like RoF isn’t organised and the guilds also stay in touch. You guys do need to get off your high horse and stop acting as if Rof has no communication.

I don’t think anyone has said RoF has no organization. It’s blatantly obvious you have some nice collaboration going on there with the organized pushes in GH and WSR borderlands. But there’s something you have to understand about Gunnar’s Hold. Gunnar’s is not trying to be a super competitive server, we aim to be the best that we can be with what we have. When we say we have superior communication we are not comparing to you or any other server, but rather what we had a month or so ago.

Krosan.2890:

Saying the numbers are about even is a complete joke as can be seen now by the sheer amount of people you have in Rof borderlands which basically outnumbers us.

Overall our numbers are quite similar I think. There’s a huge difference in peak numbers in a regular evening and an event one. And our prime time has always been strong, we know from experience we can hold our own in the higher tiers during our prime. It’s the day and late night/morning when we are often outnumbered, and in this matchup too.

Krosan.2890:

right now it seems GH is slowly developing a god/superiority complex.

Well I apologize if it seems that way. I guess winning for the first time in ten weeks (you can check up on that at mos matchups) gets a little bit to our heads. Sorry.

Krosan.2890:

Not to mention the fact you basically decided not to attack whiteside at all this week which gives you a huge number advantage you won’t have in an even matchup.

Whiteside lost many of their prominent guilds, and with that many have lost the will to fight. We don’t see them as a big threat anymore, sadly. That’s not to say we don’t fight them! Like Freyn said they insist on trebbing SM from time to time, and also encroach on our holdings elsewhere in EB. We have guys hitting WSR border, but not in such numbers as your borderland last night. That would be just unfair. We tend to target RoF because we see you as a threat and feel we can learn more from fighting you (there’s a compliment there somewhere). It’s a bit of a cliché but I think I can speak for most of Gunnar’s in that we are after good fights and not points or rankings. You guys put up a better fight than WSR.

Thanks to the [HxH] player with a deathwish who ran alone into our zerg at RoF Dawn’s, you dropped a rather aptly named exotic: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Deathwish

^-^

Shout out to Psy guys from WSR. Your small band seems to be (almost) the only one to carry the Whiteside Ridge banner outside your own borderland. You take on much bigger groups, often winning or at least retreating with all limbs intact. So hard to kill you, even with overwhelming numbers. Respect.

Right, whoever the ReD warrior from RoF running with sunrise and norn spirit buffs, kitten you are annoying. I can respect the fact that you can solo a tower, np. I can respect you slipping away when odds look grim with sword leap + GS 3 and 5. I can respect the fact that you could have taken me down 1v1 (although had I ran with the spirit buffs plus first grade foods, I could’ve certainly given you a run for your money). What I don’t respect is how you glitched your way into jerris two times without taking out the door or walls. Seriously, stop that, find some other way to prove you are leet.

-Some scrub on nightwatch, swinging a pact hammer

Demannu.2805:

Vabbi +655 income

VABBI alliance RECRUITING join us Active wvw players and guild ALL WELCOME!

Yeah, that’s not even max points per tick, better recruit some people quick!

For what it’s worth, I know how you feel WSR.

I second the notion that downed state hurts WvW. It is a significant unbalancing factor in fights where odds are 2:1 or worse. The side with more players inherently has an advantage. In fact, an exponential advantage (all other things being equal – gear, levels, skill). The fact that the already exponential advantage is even further increased by the downed mechanic heavily favoring the side who has more numbers (I don’t think anyone disputes this?) is imo just silly.

Now, I’m not opposed to out-of-combat ressing. But in-combat downed state and ress mechanics help the side that has more numbers. Don’t bring this “lol zergs are scrubs, you should be able to kill them or ur bad” argument. I don’t care about underleveled zergs, I care about a guild group of 10 coming across another guild group of 20.

My solution to this is, once your HP goes zero, you drop dead. Only people that are out of combat can revive you. That still slightly favors the larger group since they can afford to have a few people out on the back healing, but that gives the smaller group some interesting challenges like tagging healers.

Krosan.2890:

What I don’t get about GH is how they keep saying how fun and balanced this matchup is but spend the entire week trying to recruit guilds from their opponents which would basically unbalance it…
And its pretty much a given that the whole Vabbi story will totally unbalance the entire ranking again as Xaoc seems to enjoy spending 2 months fighting 10:1 and making WvW into a wasteland for their oponnents as the matchup is decided 12 hours into it.

It’s precisely because of Vabbi and RoS transfers that we are recruiting. And for the record, we turned down xaoc’s inquiries about joining GH, as that would have seriously upset the balance within this tier and within our server.

Neandramathal.9536:

This is just… so laggy Not really “Epic” :P

I had to drop out, since we had a queue in EB and I couldn’t do anything in SM – All skills took 5-10 seconds to cast due to lag.

Corran.4957:

And no you wouldnt seen us this active in GH boarders because as I said 5-6weeks ago on mumble. We are not willing to sit in keeps for hours doing nothing. LoE attack ENEMY boardlands in general. Not sit safely behind reinforced walls with 40 arrow carts. As such this week you will see us in GH and RoF, and only in AG when we are really needed. I guess again, this is the old age causing memory loss, but it was at the time I informed you we were thinking about leaving the server because 95% seeemed happy to sit in GH bl or wait in the queue to get there in Lions Arch.

First off, in my own experience, GH has been on the offensive 90% of the time. To the point it hurt our cause. Defense has in my opinion always been our weak point. That said I’m actually glad to see some change lately. People build defensive siege and upgrade towers.

Secondly, you don’t need the whole server (read zerg) with you to start attacking another borderland. I’m sure LoE has enough members to ninja a tower or a keep? If you are outnumbered but manage to capture a tower, then it could be sound strategy to – I don’t know, sit behind the walls with 40 arrow carts?

Corran.4957:

not so subtle hostility towards KISS

What the kitten do you expect? The first time they left was done in good graces on both sides. This time they leave to join the next weeks direct enemy server (which stomped us in points a week before I might add), saying they are going to teach the trolls of Gunnar’s a lesson. And that it should somehow motivate us? Again what did you expect?

Katsumoto.9452:

What can we do about that frankly? We haven’t got such great numbers, and our ‘night force’ isn’t even that big (I know, I have pulled some all nighters this week to see it and I reckon we have about a max of 30 over all maps at night). It’s just when we attack in the night we meet about 5. Yes that sucks for you, but our 30 is made up of some pretty dedicated people. I stayed up all night as did 2 guidies when we did the golem night raid, I know 2 of the commanders and that certainly was well beyond their prime time etc. We also have a fair few south african players and we welcome them.

It isn’t our fault you don’t field the numbers (which both WR and GH do during prime time by the way, we get overwhelmed by KISS numbers in the late evening every day).

Well if our positions were reversed, we’d be zerging the crap out of you too, no doubt. Your presence throughout the day is what makes the difference. Early morning and day you outnumber both your opponents combined on all battlefields. This lets you keep your upgrades and destroy ours via PvD. It’s the same story as with Abaddon, Piken, Gandara etc. If you keep this up, you could have interesting matchups with them, no doubt. Again we’d do the same if we had the numbers.

So AG is fielding even more numbers tonight? Oh joy. I already feel like a roadkill trying to defend our towers 5v30. Sigh

Honestly, AG, you have some very good players (same goes for WR ofc), but it’s hard to appreciate individual skill when you outnumber your opposition in every fight 5:1. It’s fine, it is effective with the downed mechanic etc. favoring zerging, but if you just organized and split in groups of 10-15 well coordinated people hitting multiple locations, I think it would be more educational for you and your enemies as well.

Omaris Mortuus Est.2738:

When inside the Vale supply camp looking at the entrance, players can jump from outside onto the hill on the right, then then just drop to the patch to the side to the roof. AG did it repeatedly whilst we defended Vale.

That is an easy jump you can make without any buffs, leaps or glitches (like climbing a wall). Every class can do it easily. As such, I don’t view it as an exploit. I never even considered it. I will stop using it if more people think it is cheating.

Xericor.9103:

Hmm.. the Glade is usually outnumberd, perhaps this match up we are the dominate force. That would be unfortunate, as I long for an even fight.

Well, this morning we (GH) were outmanned on every map, including our own BL. Had a blast with AG morning crew though. I lost count how many golems you used up on hills. Oh, and that 2 vs 12 at bay lord was a strange one, I don’t know what happened there – why you all wiped? Did you just stand in the lords AoE or something? Almost took greenlake with just 2 people plus one at trebuchet, too. Killed your repair crew of 3 or 4 players and were half way done with the lord when the rest of AG zerg arrived. No need to dance on my corpse though, that was uncalled for and rude! :P

I am currently playing a GS (off hand I switch between rifle, longbow and axe/mace) warrior with high burst damage and some survivability. I have full knights armor with valkyrie accessories and 20/30/0/0/20 traits. I get around 2500 armor and 21.5K HP, which I find adequate. The damage revolves around building up might stacks with the arms trait for GS. With the might stacks and some vulnerability stacks from traits/GS 1, I have seen GS 1 hits as high as 4250 damage on WvW camp supervisor. 100B goes up to 18k regularly, but have seen as high as 22.5k.

I agree, the guards are too weak. Especially supply camps, one player shouldn’t be able to just go and flip them in a few mins. For a 20 silver upgrade it’s a joke: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I2709QVKfk

I for one am really glad they made the mobs difficult. I guess it’s really aimed for people with full lvl 80 exotics and finished builds, despite the area scaling all players to 80. Some monsters, like the drakes and veteran kraka I just don’t want to fight solo, and I am totally fine with it – And that’s with a build I can solo flip fully upgraded camps in WvW.

Clark Skinner.4902:

Do you also pass along to the designer when users say it makes them want to jump off a cliff in real life?

Feels more like a chore or a punishment than a leisure activity.

You know what is the best thing about jumping puzzles? They are completely optional.

That said, I loved Skipping Stones. After some fumbling around, started casting Signet of Rage to give myself 30 seconds of swiftness so the buffs cast by other people at random times didn’t affect me. Also helps the time limit, to go 33% faster through the air.

You know, there’s an easier way to solve this, that will also fix the other engine limitation people keep complaining about. Bring mesmer portals in line with the rest of skills in terms of AoE limitation – portal closes after max 5 people have entered. If mesmer is in a party, only the party members can use it – otherwise it’s just 5 first. Maybe allow unlimited back/forth portalling for the 5 party members or the 5 first, but block others.

Think about it – no more 50 people zerg instantly appearing (or rather, NOT appearing due to culling issues) on top of you. Organized guilds could still use mass mesmer portals effectively by having multiple mesmers (1 per 5 others). So how does this affect turtling? It takes away the mobility. No more porting the turtle on top of your siege weapons. In order to move, they need to step out of their heal spam and even then running in turtle formation needs practice and coordination. Something random puggies could no longer achieve (again leaving turtling as a potential tactic for organized groups).

TheRamosOnline.2670:

And that zerg is always around them golems, there’s no way you guys aren’t doing that on purpose :\

You would prefer they leave their golems unguarded wouldn’t you? Don’t be silly though.

Let’s hope ANet fixes the culling issues (for example replace the actual models with low-res placeholders at long distance as someone suggested elsewhere).

Steelo.4597:

enough to take a camp.

One player is enough to take a camp if there are no players defending it. Which is usually the case, if you sneak behind enemy lines and capture quickly.