Guild Wars 2

quenoz.3859:

Botinhas.2018:

Thanks for the fights guys TBH, you guys really pack one hard punch, great damage output, good movement, perfect synergy, was really impressed by you guys, you are the hardest we ever fought, props to that

Peace & Respect

jk thanks i guess, sadly wasnt there yet myself when people fought slay yesterday

And there you have the reason why we performed better that day.

Amelia Knox.9362:

Dawn skipping WvW again, sorry Rage we couldn’t make it to the GvG, Gl to everybody in Queue and Silver league, for now, for me Leagues means, Playing an other game, not Gw2, Anet will be happy with their metrics and tons of people

You wouldn’t be the only one, TUP has like 10+ playing Planetside atm as getting into WvW reliably just isn’t possible.

Zumos.2056:

VcY came out of nowhere ofc … If anyone of your guild told them to come in map chat, as a guild leader you should have told them not to. And no you didn’t make it public, but you did ruin the gvg and still accuse us of cheating. And how come that 5 mins after it happend people in VII already knew?

To clear that up, I was the one that told VcY you were there. I was the TUP asura ele that was there with the other TUP ele after FIRE had left and you guys were just standing around. I was bored, it was clear your GvG had finished and wasn’t going to restart, so I ran off and met VcY at south camp, told them you were there and the rest you know.

Leyo.1935:

Where were HOB and TUP tonight ? We missed you on Gandara BL.

Fights were rather intense but not much mobility (crude straightforward fights for Garnizon), quite “blobby zergy” thus less interresting.

We were on Jade Sea border as we heard that was where the GvG guilds from JS would be, but only BSF were around, and HoB don’t raid on mondays, we had 3 or 4 of them join our 20 odd for a raid.

What guild were you? Dex, maybe?

Think we have someone that was filming, think the voice comms may be relatively tame though as we were just surprised you guys fell for it quite so spectacularly haha

MartyPartys.9187:

Thank you dz, dawn, fire & tup the awesome fights yesterday we had alot of fun.

Twinklefairy.6739:

kleckermatz.1035:

Nice fights last Weekend. We had hard fights with TUP!!
Good movement @ TUP but we downed your Blob in Longview (dazgo-home).

Nice Bags ;D – thanks

@all – Have fun this week!!

What day was that? As Saturday we didn’t raid and Sunday we split our raid into two groups as we couldn’t find any good fights, so you might have downed half of our raid =)

Well that’s an easy excuse. I think next time with FURY we’re all going to run solo and then we’ll be: Ah well, you only downed 5% of our raid!

Read my post again, it has nothing to do with FURY, it was in reply to a Dz guy who said he downed the TUP blob, I was just pointing out they would have only downed half the TUP blob ;P

kleckermatz.1035:

Nice fights last Weekend. We had hard fights with TUP!!
Good movement @ TUP but we downed your Blob in Longview (dazgo-home).

Nice Bags ;D – thanks

@all – Have fun this week!!

What day was that? As Saturday we didn’t raid and Sunday we split our raid into two groups as we couldn’t find any good fights, so you might have downed half of our raid =)

Some of you Fury guys posting seem to have an uncanny resemblance to a few of the xXx posters. Just sayin.

Hmm – sounds to be a bad looser.

We have different definitions of losing, so that’s irrelevant. The point was that your server is rather boring to fight, providing you can even find a fight.

Never played agains i.e. BB or so? This are stupid numbers of opponents – but that is WvW as it is planed (not realy good) by Anet.

yep played against BB and enjoyed it, and it was a rare occasion when I saw similar numbers of BB on one spot or at one objective compared to how often I see you clueless sheep doing so.

Not realy – or how you could explain out tick between 250-400 all primetime long? (logged in mos income evolution) – cant be without anyone online (or totaly incompetent opponents which cant capture empty keeps…)

Multiple maps, if you meet opposition on one, you swap, if you meet opposition on all, you log and come back later. The problem is the servers you’re facing don’t seem to be able to provide enough opposition on all maps so you always have somewhere to scurry off to to avoid fighting.

Vortigern.1987:

Shifty.3412:

I’m not sure how you managed to turn probably the most positive post in this thread into a negative one, but you did it, well done.

Well, that wasn’t my intention. I have no problem with your post in general, i actually wish we had more people posting like you. I just didn’t like the very small part that i quoted because it implies that the transfers from Kodash had something to do with the changes in our way to play.

Oh their coming didn’t change how you guys play, you’ve always been mindless zergers that relied on FotM zerg tactics. Turtling then ( Never saw so many portal turtles as I did when facing Abbadons) and now stupid numbers that lag your opponents to death and excessive amounts of AC’s.
Plus you guys logged out at primetime then as you do now, only to come back a few hours later when your opponents had gone to bed. So no, not much has changed with the coming of your Kodash minions, the only thing that changed is the lag increased and there have been a few more Germans to set their alarm clocks for about 2-3 in the morning.

Eirh.1439:

As a player of AM I have to say I am really sorry.

Reading this forum thread made me realize just how much better Far Shiverpeaks and Gandara are playing. Every player of them is literally a superior player to any of ours, and because of that we had no chance in this matchup. I mean last week we were in paradise where we only had to stand our ground against Baruch Bay, that basically had no players anywhere for the whole day, and Augury Rock which had no good players at all. But now, after we showed that we could take a fight with those lousy T3 servers we had the bad luck to be matched against you in T5. Since T5 is so much harder than T3 (5>3 after all) we now have to realize that we don’t stand a chance against you.

So I have to say, I am sorry. Sorry that our bad play, that is dissapointing for you that so many people have to complain about it here. Sorry if our inability to understand the basic mechanics of WvW leads you to be ashamed of having to play against a server as low as we are. Maybe one day we will get it. One day we will learn to play like you, and show that we are ready for T5. Maybe one day we will finally be able to compete with you, maybe sometime the day will come, that someone of us will be able to win a 1vs1 fight against one of you mighty and honourful wariors. Until this day we will have to. As you all said, we just have to realize, that we should all run in small guild groups, and stop encouraging our normal PvE playerbase to play WvW. But you manage to fight against the server with medium population, that outnumbers your super professional organized small guild groups, that are so much stronger then anything we have ever seen anywhere, especially not on Baruch or Augury, where you only find some random blob guilds like Bull or Red Guard. So I beg for your forgiveness, and please teach me how you manage to stomp us so hard as you do

Why do all you german servers talk about how to play WvW correctly, then post screenshots of you reducing another servers point tick to 0 at some ungodly hour in the morning. Surely playing correctly and amassing a score would involve some form of opposition from enemy players, no? Given that WvW is a PvP area and PvP kind of implies actually having some players for your players to fight.

As the title says, when is the SAB merchant going to be use-able again?
Got alot of those Bauble bubbles sitting in bank, used my karma on gearing alts and kinda need the shards for legendary.

Vortigern.1987:

Dranul.2094:

If you believe it is meaningless fights and playing 24/7 for POINTS IN A VIDEO GAME, has a) more meaning and b) more fun… KUDOS to people who think that way – they are by far the bigger men.

I never mentioned points for a reason … i don’t care for them. Those fights are meaningless because WvW is not about skirmishes, but was designed as a siege game. The towers, keeps, supply camps and siege weapons are there for a reason. They are more than just decorations or visibility barriers.

Coming from Shadowbane, i love sieges. I bought these game because it has keeps and towers to upgrade and defend and WvW was advertised as a siege game. I’m just playing the game as intended, there is no room for complaints about that. If you don’t like sieges, then you bought the wrong game or are playing the wrong game mode.

Another thing is, that you guys never care about numbers or fair fights when you are more. I usually play in a group of 3-4 people, 5 at most. when we face your awesome groups of only 20 skillful people, we face the very same odds you mentioned, but you never, not even once, cared about giving us a fair fight, instead you zerged us down every single time. the number are maybe different, but the behavior is the same.

But go on, bring some more movies, repeat the same things again and again, put some more insults on top of the others and show everyone what brave forum warriors you are. Just prove how pointless it is to speak with the people of AG.

The difference is, we won’t bother attacking you unless you stand directly in our path as we run around (in which case you’re a kitten poor small scale group and need to improve) or you attack us, all you have to do to not get ‘zerged down’ by us if you’re a small group out by yourselves is to move off to the side and we won’t bother to chase you unless there’s literally nothing else on the map to fight (in which case we probably would have called our raid anyway).
The major difference between the 2 scenarios though, is that at least you can use your skills if you’re too stupid to move out the way, in a 20v80 the 80 man group has consciously made the choice to reduce the game to an unplayable, laggy mess where nothing fires off as soon as they attack something.

dw, teach your countrymen how to fight, it’s kind of pathetic.

Viking.1285:

Oh you are so pro dranul please teach us, we want to be as good as you are.

Maybe you would improve if you actually tried to fight something rather than turning tail and running as soon as you see a red name.

Marcy.6498:

Dranul, we were around 20 guys from IF in this tower and 3 ACs. Not a single IF guy and AC more. The Pug Commandor had around 12 guys who followed him.
So please stop crying like a little baby and learn to count.
But I have question to you. Why you always do the same mistake. It’s the 5th you tried to capture a tower like this and we wiped you there like we did it before . But thanks to the bufffood you left there, very gentle of you.

Every time when i read RS is blobbing and other stuff like that I’m very suprised about your stories. We dont have the man power you always talking about. I wish we had this number of people you always talking about.

Read his post again,
20 IF maybe, but you weren’t the only ones sitting in your tower, MSNG also turned up, think there was another group in there too, can’t remember the tags though.
Also, as he said, we had to get to bay so weren’t going to sit around and wear down your arrow carts but we didn’t want to just run off after getting the wall down.

P.S where were dw on reset? only saw a couple of your guys running around and you guys seem to be the only german group capable of killing anything without arrow carts or lagging the opponents to death.

Viking.1285:

I live about 300 km from Frankfurt..

Btw nice fights sofar on AM Borderlands

You’ve had some fights? This is what you looked like to us.

Except they didn’t lower the damage at all, I get hit for higher retal ticks now than I ever did before, got hit by a 460 tick yesterday in WvW.

You sure it’s a mesmer and not an ele? who could easily have 3 stun breakers on the utilities and can indeed have like 98% reduction in cripple/chill/immob?

Balzamon.1396:

I cant understand how you guys can do this massive nightcap all day long.

If it’s all day long, then it’s hardly nightcapping, just sayin….

Master of Timespace.2548:

When the rules of the game promote blobbing, people will blob. Deal with it. (blob yourself)
For us roamers its all the same anyway wheter its a 20 man TUP blob or 80man Far Shiverpeaks PUG zerg.

Normally we don’t kill solo-ers unless they stand right in our path or run cluelessly at us (and if they do they’re not really much of a roamer) as it’s pointless and provided no enjoyment. Sadly though, it seems that nowadays the only solo-ers you see are merely those that got left behind by their blob, enjoyment in killing them went right up and provides a nice, momentary distraction before they report your location to their respective blob and the 50-60 guys come running.

Dark Lord Killer.9473:

Sirendor.1394:

Monkeymonger.9235:

Good fights! Great fights! Thank you BB! (Just couldn’t activate my skills.)

I have some more of that and really BB isn’t that bad, it’s AG.

I don’t see your point, you show one screenshot of AG with about 20-25 people, then a screenshot of BB with 50+. I think that’s pretty much the opposite of the statement you are making.

Just what I was thinking, I think someone got confused lol.

Noosfer.4875:

@Twinklefairy. We have a streaming of the first few ours after the reset in BB BL… you should have a look at the FURY+KISS blobs and the steaming towers with people defending. These numbers were out there, but after the patch they are clearer, as we can see all the names (and along with the tags, you got those impressive masses of red names)

Looking forward to some fights with TUP too. Hopefully we will have them along the weekend.

I don’t care if KISS and FURY were blobbing, maybe they were blobbing to counter another blob, maybe they blobbed first and others had to blob to counter them, it’s irrelevant in this case, they weren’t on the same border as the RED blob who I was referring to, who still felt the need to form an 80+ group when their opposition’s largest group probably consisted of 20 Rddt + some friendlies. Just hope all the BB guilds havn’t adopted the OTT safety in numbers approach or this shall be a very laggy matchup.

loseros.5912:

Screenshot or it didn’t happen! :P

Btw TUP guys, where did you play the reset at? I think Nuke chose gandara. (As allways I’m never in a kittening rest so i have no clue)

There’s a couple, mostly RED in the blob it seems and sadly they don’t even show everyone as the camera just doesn’t give a wide enough angle.

kitten, RED seems to have recruited half of spain, bring more next time and you may manage to get bay.

KinkyWarrior.1879:

Minfast.5489:

@KinkyWarrior…you’re server isn’t above blobbing either

[URL=http://imgur.com/qZpZZUt][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/qZpZZUt.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

Oh and a full zerg from AG just to kill me

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Us zerg? of course! How else did we fight you? Wasn’t us with the first 60man blob. And like I said split defense, we had no where near as many as you

Also FURY you said earlier that you were disappointed that our guilds don’t come out to play, your performance on GBL today is exactly why Feel free to Blob, just don’t cry about it when we don’t fight ;P

Call out to TUP though, in fairness you guys were still running solo <3

Edit; Oh yea, your screenie doesn’t even compare to mine in terms of blob size

And we always will even if all the other guilds have stopped….. Seems that all servers have devolved into pathetic zergling blobs, and it seems maybe FSP have the advantage in that regard as they’ve been practising it.
Makes for a kind of boring night when you’re only running 10. Even when we had to resort to abusing leg specialist on an AC half of you guys still run through without getting affected, kinda pathetic.

You should be trying to convince medium pop servers that they want you on their server.

Pandemic.1032:

Feel free to add in some insulting ones to. If you can get away with it:

Red Guard – Red T*rds / Tampon Guild / Poach Guard

Black Company – Back Peddling Company / Fail Company

Hand of Blood – Hand on B**B

Moonlapse – Prolapse

Orz – whOrz

Unamed – Untrained

and so on

How could you forget Blade & Skill?!

loseros.5912:

Nice fights today against TUP and rddt (or something like that) at BB bl. A pitty we weren’t even in numbers but we had lots of pugs behind, although you were a lot too :o

Nevertheless it’s been funny fights in open field. Thanks for coming to fight us, no matter the result or the odds. Keep it up guys! Never give up!

The few times we met up with other guilds inside a keep there were indeed some horrible blobs, TUP themselves didn’t get over 17 tonight I think so we were run over a few times but ah well, skill lag aside at times, some nice fights.

Zumy.6318:

“Platoons? (large groups of organised players)” Wtf? :-D

I threw up in my mouth a little bit, when reading this :-P.

Basically everything +10 is a zerg and I dont remember ever seeing TUP below 20-30 ppl.

I dont get how anybody coukd enjoy culliing the kitten out of eachother, but I wont judge. It’s what ANet gives to the players.

I think yesterday and the first reset after transferring were the only times since being on AG that TUP were over 20 actually lol.

Heru.5427:

You are aware that the times you open your map, except while Deso was still in the zone for the first hour, Piken has close to 2/3 of the zone?

You’re aware you’re no longer on Piken right? =)

Yer some were nice indeed, that wipe at north camp, we were all running around the corner grumbling about Riverside running into the NE tower just before without even trying to fight when they outnumbered us, when you guys appeared from behind a house. Was a very pleasant surprise!

oruma.4092:

Twinklefairy.6739:

Junkpile.7439:

When TUP forum warriors post something i always think about this video. I don’t really know why.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_ekugPKqFw

Where did a TUP guy post exactly?

got ashamed of himself and removed his post?

you got no concern here aswell

Aww but now my curiosity has been piqued!

Junkpile.7439:

When TUP forum warriors post something i always think about this video. I don’t really know why.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_ekugPKqFw

Where did a TUP guy post exactly?

You’re too easy to forget Sylas! =D

sIN > Kaz Just sayin…..
Also, Nuke what borderland do you guys usually go to as I think we’d happily come to the same one.
What night guild did you lose this time? RNV?

Murak.5317:

Grats AG for this boost from theese toughs TUP guys, i was not in game last night but it seem finally my friends have had some serious fight without me QQ. I just saw some video scene and since i joined XxX in november this is the 1st time i saw difficults in inc positioning, so much pain for so long time of fight and /bow at end too! (and i was not there! Grrr! Rosik)
i would like to ask to my server to don’t change tier for let me have more then a night to know and challenge my counterpart engi and the stun timing of his finger but i’m sure i will have my turn in the nearly future.
GG all
P.s. please what’s his char name?
Sorry for my fail try of english

TUP engi? what race?

We didn’t mind, was a nice wake up call as we started off quite sloppily! Some of the fights were great so thanks for that, extra shoutout to XXX for some of the later fights in the evening where the numbers were roughly similar. Being the only guild in a zone makes it quite hard to take t3 keeps =/ lol

You being in a group with what I believe is Quecc’s baby Necro.

If they do reduce the cap, and even if they keep the 250k one, I hope they keep the counter ticking after you’ve passed the title mark.

Wothan.4673:

JS up to fast, staying since the start in T6/5 and now with the reset of serv up to T2.
We have the population and the capacity to make good think in T2 and maybe more ofc, but now is a little to fast.
Our organisation because you speak about it, is enough for T5/4 but clearly not for T2 atm. Anyway this and the next mach up will be good for improve it.

Please tell me this doesn’t mean you’re gonna be practising point holding or something so you can compete in t2 on score?? pwetty please.
Let’s just make this match a kittening bloodbath!

Khenzy.9348:

^I seriously don’t remember, I feel bad about that, hence why I posted a message here. Sorry.

Also, I almost forgot! I enjoyed trolling people from Piken Square chasing my d/d ele for over half an hour (or more!) in circles! I was specifically told that I should entertain as many people as I can so the towers could be reinforced. Man, I have to give props to that Necro and Guardian that tried really REALLY hard to put me down, even going out of combat and changing weapons! At one point they started to addapt and begun anticipating my movements, it was pretty interesting to watch.

You must be l33t to outrun a necro and guardian, on a d/d ele.

Someone sounds mad cos bad.

Say wut? First off, I think superior is roughly a 40% damage increase. Superior siege is fine as it is. They need no extra buffs, the extra damage on them is more than enough to make them worthwhile.

The cat has not yet been found.

Vukanigia.5496:

What you will be then if you jump from one realm to another? :-) As i don’t think you will go on Vabbi…

One more thing, plz just stop with all that “%”% about bandagoners… WvW focused guilds are not the problem of Piken as random players are. Core guilds you speak about are no better then some wvw guilds that come on Piken in last few weeks (SiN, Red Guard, Nugos, Green Fire)… When any of guilds mentioned above are on the map with organized raid you can be sure that not a single “core” guild will do better job then those guilds.

Now, why they come here? Well, thats also not your problem as you don’t own Piken Square and there was a free transfer for all players. They didn’t join Desolation, SFR, VS, Elona but they come on middle tier server so… Most of those guild come down to Piken from higher tier servers…

It’s not those guilds that most are complaining about, Red Guard started on Piken, sIN/Nugos/Green Fire/SFRJ were talked to and invited by some. And for the most part you only overlap a little with our primetime, people are complaining about the GMT prime time guilds that are all coming over to a server that has repeatedly said that it has no room for any more prime time guilds.

For them to ignore these messages, and obviously ignore all the messages from other servers asking for new guilds, smacks of nothing more than bandwagoning.

Just to let y’all know, we’re not all kitten over being killed by RG. Dutchares, watch Krato’s vid. All I can say.

AG are lucky guys to have PX join them, good luck there guys. Make sure you target TDA whenever you see them just in case Climbatize is with them.

Unfortunately, every server has zergs, or places where multiple guilds converge. Or as shown in your first screenshot, 1 guild that has alot of random friendlies tagging along for the ride.

And as you said, it’s not the same Piken as you faced before, alot of bandwagoning has gone on and lots of randoms have appeared that just follow around the guild raids that actually manage to get into a map.

Dynnen.6405:

Sabull.5670:

removing aoe limit would break the game entirely. It would make culling far more powerful, encourage random spreaded out pugs instead of coordinated movement, using combo fields and healing.
Wiping keep door sieges single handledly vs tens of players…

Most people talking in this thread have no idea how actually organised raid works. 15 people of actually organised people rolls over 30 from a average, decent guild.
Being in same TS does not make you actually coordinated. There is long way to go from that.

GET ORGANISED. 50 pugs in a server TS blobbing together aka using somekind of “tactic” no matter how lame it is. Hell yea it should require you to actually get organised aswell and realise how sitting ducks they are stacking like that. Instead of crying “why i dont kill them alone or with my 5 man when they sit in my red circles”.

We are organized, and I guess we are crying a bit. But its because small groups aren’t balanced with the large groups atm. Look at it like this. 20 people are in a small area outside of a tower attacking it. 5, lets just say guardians since I know the class, run in behind them and catch them unawares. If all guardians we running hammer, and even if they spread their mighty blows across a small section of it to maximize their aoe damage, they would still only knock down about 3-4 of them. This would leave the 17 others to turn around and attack, heal up, zerg res, etc.

Now even though the 5 man, maneuvered into a great position, organized their initial assault, they are still being punished and not as effective as the zerg. The point is that uncapping AOE damage would not only balance out small group play vs large group play, but make everyone have to pay attention more; even in small groups. Large groups would have to ‘keep their head on a swivel’ otherwise they will get flanked by a small group, and small groups would also have to do that otherwise they will get run over by a zerg (which is the current situation for small groups anyway).

HAHAHA, of course they’re not as effective as the ‘zerg’, they have 15 less people. Does that mean the 5 can’t wipe the 20? of course not, it just means you actually have to work to overcome the odds rather than win through nothing other than getting the first hit in.
The only thing that needs to change to combat massive zerging imo, is to reduce the ability to res fully downed players by anyone in combat, and lower the res from downed state speed.