Guild Wars 2

ErErase.1058:

May I ask the build if you use curses or spite?

Hi! This is Build.
I do curse and spite my opponents.

Sincerely,
Build

All jokes aside I use curses and spite together ^^ and when i play reaper i prefer curses since i don’t really use signets. If i did use signets then spite would be the way to go

SpellOfIniquity.1780:

Nice vid, high-five to another core Death Magic Necro using triple Spectrals. One of my favorite and most frequently used builds except you use it better than I do, lol.

What runes are you using? Perplexity? I prefer Undead just for the high base condition damage but I’ve been thinking about changing lately.

First of all! Thank You ^^ and Hi-Five!!!
however I don’t really use death magic nor triple spectrals ^^‘. I use Spite/Curses/SoulReaping and 95% of the time i run corrupt boon + spectral walk. The 3rd utility is optional (most of the time spectral grasp) unless you’re counting the proc ‘last gasp’ then yeah 3 spectrals x).

I use perplexity for that as compensation to the loss of ‘terror’ and also due to my corruption + interrupt playstyle. mainly to counter boon heavy builds

The ‘Undead Runes’ is good for high base condition damage and is also much better if you run it with ‘death magic’ as it synergise with corrupter’s fervor. if you’re planning to change rune set, my question is will you be running ‘terror’? if yes I’d recommend nightmare runes (through dungeons) as this will go well with it’s 6th bonus set fear proc + reaper’s protection.

Hi, not bad! One particular thing though, in my point of view you tend to use signets (or spam them) at some points in which you really didn’t need to.

Rolisteel.1375:

Nice and everyone can see no elite spec required in good hands.

Thank You!

Hello! Good day to everyone!

It’s been so long since I’ve actually posted anything here. All the clips recorded are before the 26/01/16 patch. I’ve also got some extras that I am planning to release at some point…

Here is the Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11UKJkv_OQ0

If you have have any comments feel free to leave it here or in Youtube. I’ll do my best to respond ASAP!

I hope you all enjoy the video!

why are you using carrion stat for staff? and why brawler? if it’s a kill or be killed build, brawler isn’t really the best for it.

EremiteAngel.9765:

Urukami.4796:

I kinda modified it to what might be better but it’s just my opinion.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vRUQNAndWjc0Q5N2ZD22A7NOqFK6bMHlBMBCgGIG2/bJA-TFCFAByt/AAnCgCV/5KlgIp8IJlYppPYhnAQAAEgdGduzAH9oH9oH9odzduzje0jGA-w

The concept behind my build is, full berserker armor/weapon/trinkets + fully defensive traits/utilities. Many stunbreaks, many condition tranfers, more dodges.
That said, I think your build is more focused offensively and not so much the attack+defense combination I had in mind.
Not that your build is bad, in fact I think your build has great synergy with heavy boon removals pairing with axe and focus combi.
But I feel some fights, necros don’t have the initiative and often have to survive a burst or two, which my build may be more capable of surviving.

I tried running with focus, but focus 4 was too unreliable and doesn’t bounce well, requiring me to set it up with a fear, which may not be worth it (or maybe I’m casting it wrongly)

focus 5 cast time was too long…

I prefer dagger because of the condi transfer/blind.
dagger 5 not so useful though but still passable with the weakness application.

I dropped path of corruption because I decided to run with corrupt boon. with master of corruption traited, that is a pretty decent boon corruption ability already without POC. and master of corruption allows me to have a faster heal too.

I thought of running spite line too, but since I decided not to go with focus, and i thought axe cooldown was decently fast already, i went death magic for more defense.

I went plague form because it is more defensive and gives more survivability against things like rampage and to tank possible bursts when caught out with shroud on cooldown.

The thing is, if you want to be a jack-of-all trades then celestial will be the one for you (hybrid builds aren’t too bad either using carrion or sinister). Your build has quite the power however its defense is pretty weak therefore (imo) it’s best to just focus offensively (offense is the best defence(you can say it the other way around too)). Death magic is decent but only if your armor/toughness is around 2.5K or more (imo).

You already have a good condi removal as long as you manage it well through your heal and plague signet and plague sending and with decent vitality you’re technically able to deal with condi builds out there therefore I don’t think you would need to run death magic nor dagger, maybe warhorn might be the way for the daze (interrupts) and mobility (cripple to enemies + swiftness to you) as dagger 5 isn’t really that important since you tend to just inflict weakness with every crit and 50% crit technically you can perma apply weakness + when you go to DS you apply weakness.

The problem now is those who are running zerker builds. The best way to handle them (imo) when you are also fairly zerky is to just presurre them early on and if he lags behind or uses up a lot of his defensive CD then it’ll technically be your win so long as you don’t mess up.

The reason why I also chose POC rather than MOC is due to the fact that you might need to corrupt certain boons while corrupt boon is on CD and if you miss corrupt boon then you don’t have any other way. Plus another reason why I don’t (specifically myself) choose MOC is just because i’m just used to the 30 sec CD and I just tend to time my heals and spend my life force efficiently while the heal is in CD ^^ but then again it is nice to have a lower cd with the heal and corrupt boon.

When it comes to the ultimate i can understant why you might take plague but to just counter one-two class i think it’s a bit of a waste. It’s best to either stake to lich form or Flesh Golem but by the looks of your build best to go for lich form.

I kinda modified it to what might be better but it’s just my opinion.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vRUQNAndWjc0Q5N2ZD22A7NOqFK6bMHlBMBCgGIG2/bJA-TFCFAByt/AAnCgCV/5KlgIp8IJlYppPYhnAQAAEgdGduzAH9oH9oH9odzduzje0jGA-w

Just a question, but what are you trying to achieve with your build?

PVP xD. but then again I haven’t installed the patch yet xD

me, me, me, me, me

Although I might be late. Necromancers are strong as roamers (imo) but may not be the best. Although we do lack mobility we can make up for dukes, strong burst (whether condi or range/melee power builds). Our survivability isn’t too bad as well.

Cogbyrn.7283:

I’ve done all kinds of roaming on Power, and a moderate amount of roaming on Condi. I always thought Powermancer’s shortcomings were more easily exploited via the high stealth, block, blind spam that I often encountered while roaming solo. Meanwhile, Condi seemed to help counteract some of the Necro’s weaknesses, allowing for damage while you’re CC’d/enemy is in stealth/etc. I’ve found success with both, and both can annihilate a Camp solo, but Condi definitely feels easier, especially if it’s Xv1.

Even against Zergs though, I find a use for being Condi. I don’t do organized GvG, so I’ll harry the sides, try to split the group up by dropping chill in the middle, etc. Power can do something similar (or exactly the same!) of course, but especially if you just happen to tag along with a zerg, it’s all about finding a little niche for yourself and playing to it. I prefer the disruption/target sniping with sudden boon strip and condi pressure/helping the friendly zerg get out with some CPC approach.

Both power and condi have it’s perks and weaknesses. Although I do agree with you with power necros being easily exploited with all of those things you have mentioned it also is the same on condi necros but not as bad. My view on condi necro being able to 1vX is definitely not easy, as the 1vX experience is mostly affected by the players you go up against. Having to do 1v2 against two experience players within your level is already hard to deal with and doing 1v3 is just asking to get killed instantly if you don’t think 2 or 3 steps ahead. There are times where I wish I was a power necro while roaming or doing a 1vX as imo I have a better burst to constant damage potential.

Lynnie.7213:

grubyCaptor.1376:

Kami, you need to release more content.
Donee force kami to release more

Kami, release more content! We want to see moaaar!
His last montage was kitten, i gotta admit that. Made us all feel bad. lol

Kitten? x) I should release more but just been busy with uni. I’m planning to release a video at some point though ^^. Stay tuned? I guess.

Don’t think i’m going to make a big montage until HoT. I need to get back into the game and train up

Lynnie.7213:

Urukami.4796:

Lynnie.7213:

Kamiii kamiii, FQ was saying earlier that you are a noob!!! He said it!

Am I? x) I don’t think I am. I use FQ as practice every time I see him. huehuehue
maybe he misses me

Maybe …
he suddenly brought your name over discussion. You need give him more attention, bro. Our ugly one is feeling alone.

I’ve been on and off gw2 x) maybe he misses me I guess. I need to give him more attention x) hahaha. ‘Our ugly one’ LOOOOL <3

Lynnie.7213:

Kamiii kamiii, FQ was saying earlier that you are a noob!!! He said it!

Am I? x) I don’t think I am. I use FQ as practice every time I see him. huehuehue
maybe he misses me

Rannulf.9417:

I used to run full condi dire build, and now it’s useless, can’t apply kitten, warrior, eles, even mesmer i get owned.

Just like some people here are saying, condition necro is strong (also in my opinion) however we can be countered heavily by some classes and sometimes some builds in general (don’t worry too much about it as it does happen).

It also mostly depends on the way you play against your opponents.

In most case scenario necromancer (same as every class tbh) can match up to most or possibly all classes when it comes to roaming, since you’ll never know what type of opponents you’ll be matched up against (sometimes you might do since most people play meta) therefore you need to just prep yourself on how you may counter that opponent/opponents.

If you’re unfortunate enough to encounter a good/decent ele who’s running diamond skin (specially if they are celestial) then that’s just unfortunate; the best choice is just try to escape.

Some Mesmer builds (anti-condition) and most thief builds (those who run SA) can be quite tricky to go up against during roaming due to the fact that they can reset a fight against you with their access to invisibility and decent to good condi cleanse.

Warriors you’ll rarely see them roaming around with brawler’s recovery, signet of stamina, superior sigil of cleansing, cleansing ire, berserker stance with stun build e.g hammer and mace + shield, and -40% condition duration food with hoelbrak -20% condi duration. (The only time you might see this is if you’re doing 1v1 and he wants to heavily counter you). Most of the time you just have to kite them around, corrupt the right boons then you can win.

In 1v1 duels scenario (DON’T WORRY TOO MUCH ABOUT IT!!!) since people would always try to counter your build no matter what. Skill can be involved but if two players who are equally skilled go up against each other but one has a build that heavily counters you in general then most of the time you will lose (specially if you make one mistake).

I mean, what is your aim with the build? xD

come 1v1 me again hahaha. But i think you should at least have corrupt boon to replace either spectral walk or wurm.

It’s good on CoCo and CPC but with plague it’s meh

I still think corruption may not be worth it if you’re only going to use corrosive poison as the only utility.

:D, 12sec feast of corruption torment!
rune of torment + malice + sigil of torment + lingering curse + 40% condi duration food +10 % condi food duration. Makes torment amazing imo as it’s approx 12 sec torment. only good if it isn’t removed instantly by opponents, immuned, transfer, resistance.

however perplexity is still stronger due to confusion + torment combined together.

What do you guys think of the new feast of corruption change?

I think there is potential in using torment runes and I’m going to be testing this ^^.
I use perplex as a replacement for ‘Terror’ since I tend to pick ‘Path of corruption’.
In my opinion perplex will still be strong due to the fact you have access to confusion and additionally with more access to the condition torment we’ll be dishing out more condition damage to people.

I’ll probably post my results about my testing with torment here.
This is the build i’m going to be using:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vRAQNAW7Yjc0Q5N2dDG3A/NOwFK4VHAHANNajvIu157HA-T1SHABmoijb6GMSZiu7Pwi6BB8AAuTJoAHEAAuAAHp0K4jAApAgYZF-w

Theoretically the key to this build might be condi duration as you want to maintain torment at all times if possible).

I welcome everyone to try it although the runes are expensive (I’m broke cause of it lol(Just A Warning!!!)).

Give me feedback if anyone does try my build ^^.

grubyCaptor.1376:

Should release videos with tips and tricks :P

Might do! ^^

Someday i’m going to make Condi GreatSword work!!! ( ?° ?? ?°)
lol..

Thank You ^^
<3

Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q32FjA0mjoc

Quick Message:

Hi, it’s been a while since I have posted a video in the necromancer forum ^^
I’m known as Kami and I main condition necromancer.

This will be the last montage I’m making until HoT comes out (I’m also looking forward to scepter buff + corrosive poison).

I’ve been working on it for a month or two but haven’t had the opportunity to release it early due to rendering problems ^^ and busy schedules.

Do post comments or questions here or in YouTube comment section if you want and I’ll try to answer them (asap) ^^ even if they’re weird lol.

Hope you guys and gals enjoy the gameplay and editing!
- Kami

I think the problem with carrion is the fact you have very little access to crit chance, in terms of hybrid I think Sinister or Rampager stats would be much better. The vitality does contribute but imo i don’t think it’s that worth since we already start at a high health pool in comparison to other classes.

Hi, Kami Here!
I mainly play condi but i have tried power aswell

Condition build Reaper:

It does depend on how you tend to built your build but in general I guess

Advantage:
Auto Attack + Dhuumfire = Strong (RS, AA is fast therefore can stack burn better than DS, AA)
Gap closer
Can have permanent stability while you’re in ReaperShroud. (Sure Stomp)
AOE Fear (360 radius) Good for CC or AOE interrupt.
Stun + AOE chill (snare + damage)
Can stack poison easily with Soul Spiral (as long as you hit)
Chill condi can hit hard, if the opponents health is 50% or less, Chill ticks are stronger so long as you’re traited to Deathly chill.

Disadvantage:
AA is Melee
Doom is more single target focus (interrupting heals at range (1,200 range))
you lose dark path which gives 3 stacks of bleed and chill (plus longer gap closer (1,200 range))
Tainted Shackles = AOE torment + Immobolize

Power Builds:

Advantage:
Nice single target and AOe Damage! (imo)
Fast AA + Melee. I think it’s better than using lifeblast
Stability during RS + AOE Fear
With Blighters Boon you can have a good upkeep for your RS meaning you can prolong your time in RS.
Big Damage + Stun with Executioner’s Scythe.

Disadvantage:
I’m still not sure about the disadvantage since i don’t really play power

Still working on it xD

xD I’ve been busy but yeah i have started working on it :P

Aww :< I didn’t know about this. It would have been fun to test my build here x)

I wish I was (• ? •)

Quick update on my condition builds

Choosing Spite:

Signet of Suffering Version
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vREQNBmWDZkjGasBPbg/GH4CFsNDgFIu1TwHQTj2IaB-TlyCABAcBAwR9HA1NglSsl3fYiHAQiKBp4gAklyjpPCABAQAYmzcmzcmzsUALK2C-w

Spiteful Spirit Version (Utilities are different)
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vRAQNBmWDbkjGKvxeaw4G4vxBuQBbzA4Aib9E8B00oNiWA-TlyCABAcBAwR9HA1NglSsl3fYiHAQiKBp4gAklyjpPCABAQAYmzcmzcmzsUALK2C-w

Choosing Blood Magic:

Off-hand dagger (perplexity version)
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vRAQNAW7Yjc0Q5N2TDG3A/NOCGq5MM1DRMpDgGgeFbxvC-TlyCABAcBAwR9HA1NglSsl3fYiHAQiKBp4gAklyjpPCABAQAYmzcmzcmzsUALK2C-w

off-hand warhorn (perplexity version)
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vRAQNBmWDbkjGKvxeaw4G4vxRwQNj6KYIiJdA0A0rYL+VA-TlyCABAcBAwR9HA1NglSsl3fYiHAQiKBp4gAklyjpPCABAQAYmzcmzcmzsUALK2C-w

Scavenger Runes version (works much better with warhorn imo)
It makes you feel like you’re stealing someone’s life all the time.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vRAQNBmWDbkjGKvxeaw4G4vxRwQNj6KYIiJdA0A0rYL+VA-TlyCABAcBAwR9H82fAQdDYpEbiHAQiKBp4gAklyjpPCABAQAYmzcmzcmzsUALK2C-w

Choosing Death Magic:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vRAQNBmWDbkjGKvxeaw4G4vxRwQJXhP4pjJdA0A0rYL+VA-TlyCABAcBAwR9HA1NglSMh2fYiHAQiKBp4gAklyjpPCABAQAYmzcmzcmzsUALK2C-w

BTW umm yeah i did upload this one…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97xpwadhKjM

Things like this do occur to me every time I’m in WvW but don’t take it seriously… xD

BTW i hope you guys realised I healed 10 stacks of Vulnerability to gain 10 stacks of Vulnerability…I guess i went kitten mode. =-=

Mikau.6920:

Nice video.

Why do you like to use Soul Reaping as Condition Build? Mainly for the ones that you use Dhuumfire. I find this trait really weak. Soul Reaping is more tankier than Blood or Death Magic trait lines?

Thanks and the reason why I use soul reaping is due to soul marks and since i want to maximize the use of Deathshroud i choose Vital Persistence as it allows me to be able to take a few more beats and also CD reduction for DS skills. for the GM trait i do switch between Dhuumfire and FiTG but i do mostly prefer Dhuumfire as I do see potential in using this trait over FiTG as it allows me to be more efficient when i spend my time in DS as I can do decent amount of damage+apply burning and also apply bleed when i crit which means I maximize my proficiency in applying condi even when i’m in DS and also do note that I use sigil of torment with my scepter and i (although not 100%) be using my scepter/dagger set before i go to DS as then i can also apply additional torment as on hit and on crit sigils will proc while you’re in DS.

FiTG has a stun break every 10 sec and 3 sec stability therefore in terms of hierarchy it’s better than dhuumfire but then it would be just like another utility. For me I wouldn’t really need that since most of the time i run 1 or 2 stun breaks already and i think that’s enough.
FiTG and dhuumfire is more of a preference tbh.

Over.2137:

Azure.8670:

Perplexity runes? Garbage.

I gotta get me some

Killing bad players you wouldn’t even kill without Perplexity runes, yeah pretty garbage.

You can actually replace the rune with krait/undead/scavenger or nightmare. I find perplexity more efficient in terms of taking the opponents down faster since confusion is probably the third strongest condition in the game.

oZii.2864:

Urukami.4796:

oZii.2864:

Urukami.4796:

Azure.8670:

Perplexity runes? Garbage.

I gotta get me some

Never let people’s opinion stop you from using what runes you want to use.

Especially if they cost you 10-12g a piece. You shouldn’t have to justify your purchases in a game unless it’s to your wife.

+1

I see in your video that you switch between warhorn and dagger is this just changing it up occasionally or have you decided which one seems to be the best for you. I run a similar build except I have blood magic over spite I’m the same with perplexity runes. I am still not sure about warhorn though, I’m gonna look at your build and video a few times to analyze it. I hope you make another soon. Since the patch my necro has been my favorite class to play so far even more than my elementalist which I am just finding kind of boring atm.

I was just testing to be honest and I do sometimes switch between them from time to time but at this moment I prefer dagger over war horn.

off-hand Dagger: Gives you more flexibility in controlling conditions and also you can apply more bleed + weakness. Even if you’re blinded as long as your Deathly swarm hits your opponent or something you aim to hit then you will transfer condi to them

War horn: Allows you to daze your opponents which will proc perplex (if you are using it) and also prevent them from using some skills. You also have swiftness for mobility and along the way cripple to get away from opponents and also regain Life Force + if you are blinded you can get rid of blind so long as your swarms hit something.

It’s more of a preference of which one you’d rather have. For me i prefer to manipulate condi a bit more specially if you’re up against those that can immobilize you, give insane burn, confusion or torment damage but at times i do take up the war horn.

I’d say when playing condition you don’t need to specifically go to spite, death magic or blood magic. However this is my advice I guess… it’s just my opinion

If you are using blood magic and if you use off-hand/main hand dagger take quickening thirst due to the CD reduction and 25% mobility increase.
life from death if you’re playing solo or vampiric presence if you are roaming in a group to support your group.
Vampiric Ritual if you’re using a well (Solo Roam choice). Unholy Martyr if your group does not have enough condi cleanse or transfusion to be able to pull your members away from being stomp and also giving them heals.

the alternative to that is if you’re using warhorn you’d rather take blood bond, banshee’s wail (Semi-permanent swiftness I think 2-4 sec delay of getting another swiftness + 3 sec daze or life from death (solo roaming choice). Grand Master choice is same as the one i mention in off/hand dagger choice.

When choosing spite it’s usually spiteful renewal (only good if you have a condi on you and if you can actually get some one below 25% health threshold 5sec ICD). This isn’t bad however usually by time they get to 25% health they tend to die so i kinda find this one like…ehh…
Chill of death if you’re playing condi for that additional damage to your opponent.
in GM trait for Spite choose spiteful spirit if you want to keep corrupt boon, spectral walk and well of power.
The reason why I say this is because when you choose Signet of suffering I believe it’s optimal to use two signet and not rely on the proc signet (plague sending). I’ve tested it by only using one signet and it’s not bad but i believe it’s optimal with two utility signet. ( Just to let you know my usual choice is Signet of Spite, Plague Signet and Well of power however if you want to go full on corruption utility then change well of power to corrupt boon) and also by choosing this you will be going for more burst condi damage as it does give you a decent amount of stacks and an example to this was the clip of me and the thief @0:28 secs.

PS Sorry for the long reply ^^

oZii.2864:

Urukami.4796:

Azure.8670:

Perplexity runes? Garbage.

I gotta get me some

Never let people’s opinion stop you from using what runes you want to use.

Especially if they cost you 10-12g a piece. You shouldn’t have to justify your purchases in a game unless it’s to your wife.

+1

Azure.8670:

Perplexity runes? Garbage.

I gotta get me some

Never let people’s opinion stop you from using what runes you want to use.

misterman.1530:

So what’s the build?

Here are the builds i mainly use
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-30;3kHFC0143JkJ0;9;467A;0136156148;4a-1GU-V8bUytbUytq-kC4-eiMJhUvk9nep9seu9x9DFWFc1g;57-5N7-51;9;9;9;9;7V6s5i

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-30;3kHFC0F43JkJ0;9;467A;0138156146;4a-1GU-V8bUytbUytq-kC4-eiEIhUvk9nep9seu9x9DFWFc1g;57-5N7-51;9;9;9;9;7V6s5W

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-30;3kHFC0C4gJkJ0;9;487A;0247156148;4a-1GU-V8NX8aNX8aq-kC4-eiEIhUvk9nep9seu9x9D-WFc1g;57-5N7-51;9;9;9;9;7V6s5n

I’ll probably create a video about my builds

Hey peeps. It’s been a while since I last uploaded a video! I’m just dropping by to say that condition necromancers aren’t in a bad situation although…they really haven’t fixed us yet! We are strong in most 1v1 or 1vX situation as we can survive a lot of beats! There’s been many situations where I encounter a mini-blob and just tank through them! Hope you guys like the video.

Hope you guys enjoy (music may not be to your taste but meh… it’s my preference ;P sorry).

Quick update on my condition builds

Choosing Spite:

Signet of Suffering Version
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vREQNBmWDZkjGasBPbg/GH4CFsNDgFIu1TwHQTj2IaB-TlyCABAcBAwR9HA1NglSsl3fYiHAQiKBp4gAklyjpPCABAQAYmzcmzcmzsUALK2C-w

Spiteful Spirit Version (Utilities are different)
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vRAQNBmWDbkjGKvxeaw4G4vxBuQBbzA4Aib9E8B00oNiWA-TlyCABAcBAwR9HA1NglSsl3fYiHAQiKBp4gAklyjpPCABAQAYmzcmzcmzsUALK2C-w

Choosing Blood Magic:

Off-hand dagger (perplexity version)
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vRAQNAW7Yjc0Q5N2TDG3A/NOCGq5MM1DRMpDgGgeFbxvC-TlyCABAcBAwR9HA1NglSsl3fYiHAQiKBp4gAklyjpPCABAQAYmzcmzcmzsUALK2C-w

off-hand warhorn (perplexity version)
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vRAQNBmWDbkjGKvxeaw4G4vxRwQNj6KYIiJdA0A0rYL+VA-TlyCABAcBAwR9HA1NglSsl3fYiHAQiKBp4gAklyjpPCABAQAYmzcmzcmzsUALK2C-w

Scavenger Runes version (works much better with warhorn imo)
It makes you feel like you’re stealing someone’s life all the time.
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vRAQNBmWDbkjGKvxeaw4G4vxRwQNj6KYIiJdA0A0rYL+VA-TlyCABAcBAwR9H82fAQdDYpEbiHAQiKBp4gAklyjpPCABAQAYmzcmzcmzsUALK2C-w

Choosing Death Magic:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vRAQNBmWDbkjGKvxeaw4G4vxRwQJXhP4pjJdA0A0rYL+VA-TlyCABAcBAwR9HA1NglSMh2fYiHAQiKBp4gAklyjpPCABAQAYmzcmzcmzsUALK2C-w

Lynnie.7213:

Yeah guardians burn are op, now.
I just saw one of your builds and its what i am using, but i use perplexity and warhorn instead. With plague signet in place of spectral wall.

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-30;3kHFC0C4gJkJ0;9;487A;0247156148;4a-1GU-V8NX8aNX8aq-kC4-eiEIhUvk9nep9seu9x9D-WFc1g;57-5N7-51;9;9;9;9;7V6s5n

I feel like 3200 toughness with corrupter’s fervor means nothing, i still get 2 shotted. And other condi classes are just too strong compared to us, like mesmers applying nearly to 20 confusion/torment stacks.

The only change i made with this build is the putrid defense to shrouded removal since you can remove condi stacks on you when you enter DS and every 3 sec you are in DS. I’ve fought hybrid condi guardians/mesmer/engi who can stack a lot of burn and it can actually negate the burning ticks if you can’t transfer it.

With corrupter’s fervor it makes a big difference since it decrease direct damage and condi damage plus you get additional armor when it’s up. I can understand if a Zerk Mesmer can two shot you cause they are currently broken imo but other than that i don’t think people can two shot you just like that. You can survive direct damage for a long time to be able to kill them but don’t expect to come out easily if you’re up against 3 “really good” players at the same time and with necro as a class with one of the highest health pool we have a better chance against other condi class plus consume conditions even with the nerf. if it’s conditions like 20 stacks of confusion/torment stacks just make sure you pass it back! or don’t use any skills when you have confusion just go DS and kite them around as much as you can until it’s gone or you have the option to be able to pass it back.

Changed spectral wall to well of power for the condi to boon conversion (if condi builds apply chill on you that’s one of the best condi to convert since resistance causes all conditions currently on your character to be ineffective for its duration) Although spectral wall is still decent to use against melee. you can get rid of spectral walk/corrupt boon for plague signet.

my current defensive build:
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-30;3kHFC0F43JkJ0;9;487A;0147156148;4a-1GU-V8bUytbUytq-kC4-eiEIhUvk9nep9seu9x9D-WFc1g;57-5N7-51;9;9;9;9;7V6s5r
great against condition classes. (still suck against any ele build that runs diamond skin 95% lost unless you have enough power damage (using carrion increased your chance of winning I guess…) to take down the health to below 90%)

oh and be very!!!! careful with plague signet as I once took a burning tick that was applied to someone (cough cough…Zodin….) and it killed me in 3-4 seconds cause it did a total of around 17.3-18.2K of my health in one go. (Yeah it was a hybrid condi guardian that applied that burn..)

Lynnie.7213:

hey mate, cool post. How is your builds working so far? Mine is giving a lil bit headache. The meat is too strong.

Link me your build and i’ll review it. (PS i prefer looking at condi builds x) cause i don’t really play power although i will still look at it)

In the current moment my build is really strong it has survivability and condi damage output to pressure the opponent and on certain occasions I am able to condi burst someone and kill them within a matter of few seconds. I’m really happy with it!

I’ve also been playing around with a boon conversion build and that means sacrificing terror for dark path and sometimes I prefer it although it’ll take a “little bit” longer to kill someone.

WVW version
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-30;3kHFC0143JkJ0;9;467A;0146146148;4a-1GU-V8bUytbUytq-kC4-eiMJhUvk9nep9seu9x9DFWFc1g;57-5N7-51;9;9;9;9;7V6s5i

PVP version
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-3_-34;0kHFF014JI-K0;9;467A;0146146148;4U-m68;1hoHAhoHA2K

The good thing about this though is that you can provide constant condi pressure using utilities and DS so long as you can hit dark path (timing and etc) you’ll convert 2 boons every 12 seconds! along with spite and plague that’s another 4 (plague signet for me is more for a stunbreaker as i don’t use FiTG ( i use dhuumfire)) and corrupt boon (5) and the trait plague sending (that’s another 2 boon converted). It’s a build that’s good against engi, guardian and also ele (so long as they don’t use diamond skin).

You can use rendering shroud for chill of death however at the current moment i’m liking rendering shroud as it applies vulnerability which means increase condition damage on the opponent! I use dhuumfire! as burning is another condition although it is a weaker choice than FiTG however I see potential to this trait as another constant pressure to your opponent as you’ll constantly apply burning (although it’s weak in comparison to other classes) with your life blast and i’m used to not needing FiTG….

yeah the meat cleavers are strong(zerker builds) however condition necros position isn’t that bad although we’re not the best condi class (although imo we should be in comparison to others…) we’re good at manipulating conditions.

Yeah you guys are right, just been testing this out (10 times), all other boons are converted into what they are supposed to be. It’s only stability that doesn’t change to fear…my bad well..I guess we have to wait a year or two till they fix this for necros (jk i hope)…

Whether you have 3 boons or 7 boons it will be converted to a random condition so using corrupt boon on a guy who may only have stability will cause that stability to change to a random condition doesn’t specifically have to be fear. I’m not 100% sure if this is a bug however if not then it’s working as intended…lol

vibeagra.9501:

why do you take dhuumfire over FiTG?

umm tbh it’s a matter of preference!! play how you want to play! I use dhuumfire due to the synergy with reaper’s might in the spite traitline plus with burning stack i believe dhuumfire went from ehh to ohhhh. but there are times when you just have to use FiTG for that 10sec stunbreak and 3 sec stability.

To answer all your confusion guys..ummm here
It is not a bug.

Boon and Condition Conversion
Boon to condition conversion and condition to boon conversion has been standardized and is functionality changed. Skills that convert boons and conditions now randomly select from all boons and conditions on the target.

Yo! Kami here! It’s been a while since I’ve posted anything but since the new patch has come out I’m here to share the condi builds i have created (some are still being tested).
Just to let you know most of the builds i’m going to show are heavily countered by diamond skin elementalist. I’ll be releasing a video about this at some point, i’ll leave the power builds to Hollts as I usually don’t really play power/hybrid necro.

WvW build:

First of all my Signet Corruption Build (Offensive build) -
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-30;3kHFC0143JkJ0;9;467A;0136156148;4a-1GU-V8bUytbUytq-kC4-eiMJhUvk9nep9seu9x9DFWFc1g;57-5N7-51;9;9;9;9;7V6s5i

Heavy condi burst/boon converter. I do use perplexity (confusion) as it is an additional condition damage and it is strong however you may replace this with nightmare runes or rune of the undead or traveler. (Matter of preference).
War-horn synergies with perplexity for the interrupts and also the war-horn 5 can get rid of blinds, cripples foes and gives you life force as it hits foes and let’s not forget swiftness.
P.S condi transfer is strong (imo) with plague signet against other condition builds.

2nd build. I call it Terror Magic (Defensive build) -
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-30;3kHFC0C4gJkJ0;9;487A;0247156148;4a-1GU-V8NX8aNX8aq-kC4-eiEIhUvk9nep9seu9x9D-WFc1g;57-5N7-51;9;9;9;9;7V6s5n

Heavy condi and can take a lot of damage. This one i specifically use undead which will increase condi damage approximately 2119 (no corruption stacks) and it can tank a lot of damage allowing you to be able to do 1vX (although 3-4 thieves will steal eat you alive in about 20-30 sec).

You can use FiTG rather than dhuumfire for the stability and stun-breaker. (The soul-reaping grandmaster is usually a preference; this also applies to my offensive build as well)

PVP build:
In terms of amulets you may use carrion however for me i have a preference of using rabid as i have more survivability.

Signet Corruption Build (my pvp version(offensive build))
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-3_-34;0kHFF014gJ-K0;9;467A;0136156148;4U-m68;1hoHAhoHA2g

I’d rather take spectral walk/wurm/EPICdemic over corrupt boon as corrupt boon can be a situational utility (it’s a matter of personal preference as well).

Terror Magic (or the new TerrorMancer) (pvp version (defensive build))
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-3_-34;0kHFC0x3gJ-K0;9;487A;0247156146;4U-m68;1hoHAhoHA2O

utility wise you may change wurm or spectral walk for spectral wall or not. The beauty of this build is the survivability when people tend to focus you! Just remember to position yourself well and don’t forget your main stunbreakers which is going to deathshroud, wurm and spectral walk . You may change corrupt boon if you feel like you may not need it to epicdemic (condi spread) or signet of spite or spectral wall.

currently an experiment build (Condi Necro Support)
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-3_-34;0kHFC0x3gJ-K0;9;497A;0058157146;4U-m68;1l6Uwl6Uw9d

no comments about it yet.

Hope you guys like my builds and have fun! PS I think condi in wvw and pvp has the potential to become lethal again however don’t quote me on that as we never know what may occur.

Leave comments/questions about the builds and i’ll reply as soon as i can!

Thanks guys and perplex necro isn’t as good as it used to be but it is still strong (“but not too strong”). I’m currently experimenting with other runes such as grenth, krait, undead and scavenging and at the current moment I find killing thieves and elementalist using grenth easier and krait against warriors.

I’ll be uploading more in the future ^^