Guild Wars 2

I need an Immidate lock down on my account. My email has been compromised and now the hackers changed its password. I wrote a ticket about it more than 3 days ago. Given all the information they asked me to verify the email change. I still waiting for Anet to change my mail, but untill then I need my account to be locked down. Pls help me secure my account!

Ticket: 590703

Its been 3 days already. Hackers changed my email password so I need a shutdown on my account immidietly till the inquiry goes on!!!!!

Sent another ticket!
Ticket: 597650

Need help ASAP!

Atmosphera.4089:

(btw nice vizu picture there with 3 ac haha xD)

4 acs, the one manned on the right blocks another one.

Just an average day in Guild Wars with Those Crazy Hungarians [TCH]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M4HvH5xsQY

previous video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASlhs5S8B-E

You left way too soon.

Muhahahahahahaha!

Yet, again we have to write things down twice because some people just can not control themselves…….

I really dislike the new mining pick mainly because old pick < new pick. They cost the same, they are both for convenience and still the new one is better than any of the old ones.

I never bought any of those permanent picks since their price was way too high for me and did not worth buying them. I do not mine that often and since I have a permanent merchant I do not need to own one. Still the problem stands for all those players who bought previous ones just for its convenience (and not the effect). Now they feel tricked and wish they had bought this pick instead of the previous versions.

All this said it is not P2W. Why, you ask? Because you can buy it with in game gold. Just think of it as if Anet placed a new merchant in game from whom you can buy it for 90g or whatever the current exchange is.

Jinx.7258:

It is useless by all means… because some morons are running it doesnt mean its effective. No high tier player will take LF over Plague. Nor high tier guild will do so… because you are spectating some scrubs doesnt mean they are getting any better… Stop excusing yourself and learn your class lol

Moron, scrubs running it, are you sure about it? Should I learn my class? I am pretty sure I have invested more time and thought into my class than you did, who twice said that LF#1 is single target skill, way to make a fool of yourself!

Jinx.7258:

Its not direct single target but what,you are gonna line all of your enemies so you can hit them?…

Melee train moves compact so they do the work for you, next……..

Jinx.7258:

When you are that smart, count with me… AoE blind from Plague blinds 5 players, thats 25 of your allies missed. Add the poison and 20-sec duration of that effect…. Is your LF still THAT effective? Can you stomp with LF?

Lets do this in order, shall we.

1,As I said before twice and yet you still could not recieve the message, I use plague on my necro in WvW. I am traited for blind applies chill so its dmg+poison+blind+chill and I love it, so does everyone.

2,Plague has poison and it is awesome, but LF has condi cleanse and boon remove(can remove protection, heal regen, stability all the good stuff), not to mention +8% dmg from vulnerability that amplifies not only yours but your teammates dmg as well. So yet again LF has it’s merits. It’s different than plague but it has a positive side.

3, No, you cant stomp with LF, but you cant stomp ele, mesmer, and thief with plague anyway not to mention boon remove+fear or pushback and you are not stomping anymore in plague as well. Other than this it works wonders, gotta love plague stomps!!!

Jinx.7258:

Its ELITE skill you cannot afford so insignificant boost in dmg when you can easily access Life Blast and do nearly the same dmg…

And yet again LB hits full dmg when you are in 600 range which is quite dangerous while running full zerker.

Actual numbers with some specific stats I used in pvp arena on dummies for you. LB within 600 range 1950-2100 crit. LF skill skill 1, 2400-2600 crit on 5 targets from 1200 range. So if I presume I have 3 crits and 2 base which is coming closer to an actual zerker crit chance it would be around 10k dmg from range vs 2k dmg up close. Of course the difference is much higher with full ascended full zerkes stats + applied strength + consumable due to multiplication.

Jinx.7258:

jesus christ,so many morons are crawling in these forums, its unbelievable…

Instead of asuming you know everything the best. You might wanna get off your high horse coz you are sure to fall from there. Open mind can take you a long way ahead!

P.S.: Also lots of mods on forums lately, so you may want to refrain from namecalling and such, becuase you might get banned and then people wont know how much of a great person and mind you are!

Jinx.7258:

Im completely aware what Lich Form does. Its quite useless considering this is the power builds elite skills… for 180 secs this boost is nothing. Plague is giving you alot more survivability and useful skills, not to mention they are all aoe… while LF #1 is single target.

Are you sure you are aware of what Lich form does? Since when LF #1 is a single target spell? Not to mention, you can apply 8 stack of vulnerability on enemies from 1200 range (AOE), knock back foes+chill(AOE), spam minions, remove boons from foes, cure condies on allies (AOE).

LB hits kittenly when you are within 600 range LF #1 deals more dmg from 1200 and AOE! I’ve seen many guilds running with 1 or 2 lich necros because they hit like a truck, especially in narrow corridors/choke points. Not to mention it is insane when combined with Time Warp.

I use plague myself, because I am playing a tanky melee necro, but if I were to go ranged full dps Lich form would be my choice for sure. Plague duration 20 sec with 180 sec cd, lich form 30 sec duration same cd. It is not useless by any mean.

I am quite confused by this vid. It is nice and all, but I thought zerker necro would hit much harder.

I play full pvt necro with traveler runes, maintenance oil, perception sigil stack, than swap to accuracy. I have +prec, +tough infusions and I have around the same dmg as you.

So In total I have around 45% crit chance, 3100 attack, 28700 hp, 2900 armor and 36%crit dmg on day 1 wvw. If I were to count primary food, apllied strength, fortitude and the changes trhough the week (hp,etc) I end up with 3250 att, 31,5k hp, around 400-500 condi dmg, 2950 armor. I play a melee train necro heavily utilizing ds(25k)retalliation from axe skill 3 (hit aroudn 285-295, depending on my power). The blind+ chill is extremely usefull in plague form and I can withstand any dmg with the 55K hp I have, when I am in the mix.

Anyway this vid just proves me going full zerker just does not worth it. Kinght cavalier seems like a better option for me. Also why are you playing with plague instead of Lich? I thought zerker ranged dps necros play Lich 90% of the time in wvw.

Keep up the good work mate, best of luck!

+1 to OP, well said.

For those who say it is not a broken item, and there is nothing wrong with it, I suggest reading the title of this thread again (Dangerous precedent). It is NOT a tremendous, game breaking thing but it can lead to something from what we want to stay away.

old pick<new pick (something like this should never exist, they cost the same, both of them are for convenience, one should not be better than the other)

Enough said hope they will do something about it.

Are there any news about renaming the Outnumbered buff again? You know just to shake things up a little bit and keep WvW fresh.

What the hell were you doing at that Jp? lol…. Next time try to play wvw instead.

I don’t want to see this thread on the second page, because then it all would be vain.

entropy.9613:

Different classes have different strengths and weaknesses. Some classes have good CC, some have stability, some have stealth, and some have none of the above but instead have more power/conditions/support. Similarly, different PvP maps will suit different classes and playstyles. Skyhammer suits crowd control builds, so play CC or position yourself better.

Play the game that’s in front of you, not the one in your head.

Different maps may suit different classes/playstyles, but there is no other map where you can instakill someone with 1 skill. <- No wonder ppl exploited this faulty design.

This map should rather be a part of a holiday pvp arena or a LS activity where ppl run around knocking off each other, but I would remove cap points and add 100 more platforms and gaps. <- this is just goofing around and not actual pvp

Katran.9186:

Valheru Baal.9456:

It is always the same scenario, they pull, push, knocback, fear you on spot and the break it under you. This is the easiest to carry out at skyhammer, since the arena up there is really, really small and there is almost no safe spot up there. Bunker Engi is the perfect fit for it since it has access to multiple stability, block, invulnerability and knockback/pushes.

>Engi
>Multiple stability
Lold as kitten.

I did not say engi has multiple stability, I wrote engi has multiple stability, block, invulnerability and knockback/pushes. Also I should have added root. Why did you pick a small part out of my sentence? Are you preparing to be a journalist?

Katran.9186:

Anyways, you can’t be killed by pushing if you stay away from platforms. The only dangerous things are magnet and scorpion wire. They are evaded easily even if the enemy uses invisibility.

First of all sooner or later you run out of dodge. And since you can dodge less than they can use their cc on you, you can only prolong the fight but not win it. Also net turret+every other root is way too effective up there since it is a really small arena.

At Skyhammer not only platforms kill you, but pushing/knocking/fearing off the edge as well, this is the easiest to pull off in the control room. Also thief stealth+scoprion wire is easily counterend by just waiting it out. Leave the room and go back in when he is out of his stealth. <- not a solution for engineers

Incurafy.6329:

1. Not every class has access to stability, please point out what I’m supposed to do on a Thief, for example?

Katran.9186:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/images/c/c8/Scorpion_Wire.png

As I have said before if I see a thief going into stealth up there I just leave and go back in a few seconds later. (easily countered)

Qaelyn.7612:

Valheru Baal.9456:

You can not force players to do something they do not like. With your mentality you can quickly get into top3 since there will be noone left to go up against you.

You can penalize players who deliberately screw up matches because they’re too childish to handle a map.

It’s in the rotation. Try to get that changed if you want, or don’t play solo queue. Those are the reasonable options.

Sabotaging matches and then using weak justifications about polls — is not.

“To reduce the frequency of players leaving tournament matches, the maximum amount of dishonor has been reduced to 3.”

They are penalizing players for leaving games. Leaving games (making their team play 4v5) till they hit this limit is also part of the game just like this awful map. When I join solo q, I am aware I might have to play on this map also that I might have to play 4v5 (happens much more frequently on this map). You have to accept this, just like I have to accept to play on this “no skill” map until they change things.

You could make the rules even more strict but it will not solve the problem. Ppl getting dishonorable=not playing soloq, having a map in the rotation that ppl loath, but do not wanna srcew with outher players=not playing soloq. If this is a goal you want to achieve go on, but I will not support this idea. I want players to play this game and not turn away. There already was a huge drop in numbers regarding Spvp. The new updates made ppl care about it again and it would be nice to keep the player base of SPvP high for once.

Yasha.5963:

I get no satisfaction out of knocking people into holes for instant wins. Its just cheese and unbalanced, that’s why people can’t stand it.

You are barking up the wrong tree if you think most people hate the map because they get pulled off every second.

100% this!!!!!

Nary Why Irk.8150:

Kids!!!!! Grow up & play skyhammer!!!!

You can not force players to do something they do not like. With your mentality you can quickly get into top3 since there will be noone left to go up against you.

Nary Why Irk.8150:

I am top 25 europe solo q with more than 1.500 games and I love this map.

The map is ORIGINAL.
The map requires EXPERIENCE & SKILL.
The map enriches conquest mode diversity build & FUN. BIG FUN.

For me everyone who cries at this map is just a BIG SCRUB without any skill, experience, or competitive aim // RESILIENCE to win a game.

Deal with it.

It means you are part of the 20% of ppl that loves this map. Sorry to say that but your position on the ladder does not change the fact that majority of the players hate it and leave SPvP or even worse the game because of it.

You say ppl who do not like this map are Scrubs without any skill, or experience? I do not like this map and I am constantly moving between the range of rank 200-300. I have friends playing tpvp range of rank 50-100 that do not like this map, so are they inexperienced noobs as well?

Every single time I get this map (player ranks range 40-60) somebody rolls to bunker engineer and goes to Sky hammer to camp it.

What is the most frequently used class you see up there with your rank? Don’t you think classes that have more stability/block/invul/push/pull/knockback enjoy a certain advantage? You can position yourself well with those charcters as well, but it is much easier to to knock ppl off edges with those classes. As I have said before I ve killed many campers there by chainfearing them off the edge, but it does not make it fun for me <- you should think about this a bit.

Skrill.6170:

Actually there is a guy who got rank 80 now!
THIS is the real deal guys!!!

This pictures are keep getting better and better!

Brigg.6189:

Keep in mind also, there’s lots of players that actually like skyhammer. I’ve seen polls here that have actually shown them in the majority.

I am 100% sure there are players who like this map but many? I know lots of players who play tournament SPvP and none of them likes it. There were lots of players who liked Skyhammer in the past in hotjoin, but it was for a whole other reason. They could farm glory/rank on this map. No sanctions were given out to this day as far as I know.

Qaelyn.7612:

Valheru Baal.9456:

It is quite the opposite, it is an easy map. Way too easy to exploit, avoid good fights and destroy whats left of the balance in this game.

But that doesn’t matter. Yes, a lot of people dislike Skyhammer. That’s not an excuse to mess up the game for a bunch of other people.

Yes, it seems it matters. It is not my personal opinion and nor yours as well. It is an observation. When I see the Skyhammer loading map I already know I am up for a bad round even if I win or not. 4v5 cant make it worse for me (this is my personal opinion).

Qaelyn.7612:

No, the OP shows that there are a lot of selfish people in the world who only care about what they want and what’s good for them, not others and how they impact them.

I don’t see why it could not show both what I said and this. They are not exactly opposite.

Qaelyn.7612:

But that’s all anyone can ask of anyone, to make an effort. Not hang your teammates out to dry and then make matters worse by bragging about it on the forums.

“I believe this was the first time I did it on purpose however.

But there’s just no way I was going to endure another game on Skyhammer, this god awful abomination of a PvP map."

I think we have a different understanding about bragging. I would like to highlight “first time” and “endure”. Both key words to understand the situation.

Qaelyn.7612:

Valheru Baal.9456:

It is easy to say to the OP not to join SoloQ. But who will you fight against in the future if you turn away the minority of players playing SPvP?

Honestly, this again simply isn’t relevant. I’d rather play Skyhammer properly and lose 500-0 by being blown off the edge 100 times, than either win or lose 500-0 because it was a 4v5.

How can you say turning away palyers from SPvP is irrelevant? It might be due to the matchmaking and that I am a bit higher ranked in SoloQ, but when I play tourney I play with/against the same people every time. This shows how unpopular SPvP is. More people could give more challange, more space to grow, more fun.

I understand that you really dislike leaving and to be honest so do I, but on this map I can not blame it on the players only. I just can’t.

Katran.9186:

>Look at me, I’m so dumb I can’t take stability and stay as far as I can from breakable platforms! I’ll just selfishly leave games so Anet probably listens to my whining! Such a great plan for such a cool guy as I am!
Can’t say if fat or just very stupid.

Multiple classes have limited availability to get stability such as necro, thief, mesmer certain ranger builds. I think everybody tries to stay away from platforms as much as they can, but to be honest I have never seen anyone die to platforms because they were just standing on it.

It is always the same scenario, they pull, push, knocback, fear you on spot and the break it under you. This is the easiest to carry out at skyhammer, since the arena up there is really, really small and there is almost no safe spot up there. Bunker Engi is the perfect fit for it since it has access to multiple stability, block, invulnerability and knockback/pushes.

Your comment shows ignorance, lack of game knowledge and manners. Your comment is not constructive and your insults are at the level of a 14 year old boy (fat, dumb lol).

Qaelyn.7612:

condemned several other players to having to deal with a difficult map

It is quite the opposite, it is an easy map. Way too easy to exploit, avoid good fights and destroy whats left of the balance in this game.

The OP only shows that players who would not normally turn their back on their teammates start leaving their game because how not fun this map is. I am 100% sure the OP played through plenty of other matches with horrible teammates and did not leave them. You play this game to have fun. And if you can not get it due to a badly designed map, should they force you play through the game when you already know the outcome? Since there is no /resign command implemented in this game you are left with no other option but AFK or leave.

Personally I have never left a single tournament game before because no matter what happens I always fight till the end, but I do not expect others to follow my example and have a bad experience. It is easy to say to the OP not to join SoloQ. But who will you fight against in the future if you turn away the minority of players playing SPvP?

This is something Anet should look into and fix ASAP. You should not have a map where certain classes/builds enjoy a tremendous advantage due to it’s design. And they should not force a team to play a game they wish not to do. In a long term they have to implenet something like /resign, my idea would be that your team can only /resign if the difference between the teams is greater than 200 or your team scored at least 100 points. Something along this line could work I think.

Yep, this map is for noobs who like to cover their inability to play the game. They use map specific builds (mostly engineers camping cannon) to exploit the lack of stability on other classes to knock/fear them of the edge or root them on the glass and break it under them.

I play a necro so I can stack up some nice duration of fear but I usually choose not to do so. Exception are the players who only camp cannon. This map should be taken out from SoloQ tournaments. This map only attracts noobs and rank/glory exploiters. I would rather pvp in water than this map……….

Finally!!!! I have solved the equation in the OP. I feel your pain bro.

WhiteAndMilky.2514:

Hugh Norfolk.2798:

Seems Legit. :P

cunfirmed world furst!

Now that it has been confirmed, congratulations mate!

zone.1073:

Step 1. Summon flesh golem.

Step 2. Wait for flesh golem to autoattack the ele a couple times.

Step 3. Take advantage of the hole poked into Diamond Skin and condi away. Repeat steps 2-3.

Step 1, check!
Step 2, man I can not even read this sentence with a straight face.

Have you ever played MM necro? Flesh golem attacks whenever it pleases to. Sometimes he is just standing around, sometimes it is on a quest to find a treasure. I have been playing MM necro in the last 2 months because I find it fun after playing condi necro for a year now. And one thing I obsereved is that actions of your flesh golem depends on your position, enemies position, flesh golems position, conditions on you, flesh golem, enemy, map, terrain, wind power and the position of the stars.

All jokes aside, AI is still terrible, and unreliable (flesh golems charge interrupted by every little bump on the road). If your minions choose to attack the target their damage is OP if they do not, you are screwed. (BTW ranged minions tend to attack your target more often, melees just wander around).

Step 3, if I get to this probably with a help of a teammate, check!

mini.6018:

And about people saying change is bad for the game ,well i have to disagree .

Noone said change is bad, but this type of direction is not welcome. Ppl have been already complaining about passives being too strong, like HS on warrior just to give an example that has nothing to with condi immunity. Honestly I would not mind if ele had full dmg condi cleanse on his weapons every 20 sec. It would be much more interesting than this passive nonsense.

Bhawb.7408:

This is the problem. The trait is either awful or OP, and in neither situation is there any real skill involved with the trait.

Yes, after few hours of reading comments I found the perfect way to define this problem. Thanks mate!!!!!

TainoFuerte.8136:

Meh, at this point in the games history, I’m beginning to think you just reroll to whatever’s the flavor of the moment because the game doesn’t look it’s going to get any better.

And this is what we are afraid of.

If you had to put your finger on what necromancers excelled at, you could have said condition and boon control. If you take this away from necromancers with passive traits like DS and AR. You basicly take away necromancers speciality. Power necros are not that strong ATM (not bad either). But if I want to play a boon remove power burst build I could just reroll to mesmer since it does that better, quicker and much safer.

clint.5681:

Valheru Baal.9456:

http://www.twitch.tv/lhob9944/b/486397926 Are you sure they nerfed the ele? You may have overlooked this.

Yes they nerfed ele by moving around some traits that link has nothing to do with it. Please dont go around being that annoying guy spamming links to get attention.

The OP completely ignored this trait while he was speaking about condition immunity. I have linked this here and only here (not going around linking everywhere, do not know where did you get this), because he might not know how this trait affects the current meta.

Ele got nerfs? Yes, Ele got buffs? Yes , Were they executed in a balanced way? Well we were not talking about it yet.

Please do not be that annoying guy trying to insult others in a rather pathetic way to get attention. Grow up kid, unless you have something constructive to say just do not say anything at all.

Yep, probably this guy was 0-22 before reset and now he is 9-0.

Reading these comments, I can clearly see that most players in defense of Diamond Skin completely ignore the fact that it is not skill based. That is the main problem with it.

It really is a hard counter to pure condition builds and it does not even require the player to be good. You only have to have this trait some decent armor/regen and there you go. You can lean back, eat your popcorn and laugh in the face of every condi necros, caltrops thieves and whatnots. I do not mind if they give more condi removes to other classes, because it requires to actually use them well. Good timing, etc. This is just a braindead trait which does not make this game any better.

Shranks.3260:

4) Skills that grant immunity against something for longer time (Warri Stance & Engi Condi Immunity)
6) Elementalist were too weak in terms of survivibility
and some other minor tweaks here and there

4) They added some skill that grant immunity – although they said this wouldn’t be fun
6) They nerfed the ELE – REALLY? Put all Traits into Master Tier

http://www.twitch.tv/lhob9944/b/486397926 Are you sure they nerfed the ele? You may have overlooked this.

Lizerunn.9072:

Well, you only choose that reading.

Taking that rationally leads to the point that the “You” target this (or may be those) player who use cheating programs to bias a matchup outcome. Though I know cheaters usually have more personal interest and are not likely to be selfless.

So when you said “You lose the league but definitely you deserve to win this matchup with such strategies.” the first YOU covered SFR and the second only the hackers? Or both YOU targeted hackers? Sry, mate but for every rational person your sentence translates to generalising SFR after having a bad experience and it has nothing to do with how I read your comment.

What I think happened is that when you wrote this, a little bit of rage bubbled up inside of you that led to generalisation even though you would normally refrain from doing so.

I only reply because you could have just said sorry for your poor choice of words, but instead you have decided to blame me for misinterpreting what you had said. This time I have decided to read your comment this way so no problem mate, we are cool.

Lizerunn.9072:

Can’t believe there could be cheater on SFR ?

Yes, we can but without any proof, it could be just false accusation (happened before multiple times even with screenshots attached). Please keep taking pictures/videos of these things so we can do our investigation and also report these players.

Lizerunn.9072:

Obviously I know leads and commanders will not cheat or use cheater.

It is not obvious since you have implied it when wrote this:

“You lose the league but definitely you deserve to win this matchup with such strategies.”

It is hard not to take it personally, when you say it is SFR’s strategy to win like this.

Thedenofsin.7340:

I must have lost 8 matches due to players who don’t know how to play. Last match I was running treb and literally had 2 teammates standing next to me at the treb.

They proabably both had maxed treb masteries and were waiting to take over since you did not even use cows. In their eyes you were the clueless one.

All jokes aside, some guide videos certainly could help beginners.

I was wondering if hotjoin could be finally balanced next patch. The current autobalance and spectate system is just not working as intended. You ask why? Easy.

Lets say a game starts with both team having 6-6 members. One of these teams takes the lead. A new player joins the game. That person looks at the scores and joins the winning side (this happens around 95% of the time, respect for the other 5% who joins he losing side). Once that player joined the winning side the game is even more unbalanced than it was before and the team starts snowballing.

Now, what do the players do on the losing team? Easy, they abuse the current spectate mode, by leaving their team, joining spectate mode (this way its 5v7), wait for the auto balance and then join the winning side. I witness this every single game now. I did not share my thoughts about this before since I thought I would just make it more popular, but we came to a point where it is way more frequent than it should be.

The current system favors abusers and not honest players. If I start on the losing side, it is almost 99% that I will lose in the end, due to players leaving/spectate waiting.

Is there a solution? Yes, do not allow players to join the winning side when they have equal numbers. This could make hotjoin games more interesting as they are now. I really hope to see this getting fixed in the next patch.

Because they were an important part of winning the season for your server. They have taken much abuse, carried increadible weights, walked long distances without a complaint. They never ask, only give. You should respect them more my friend!

Ok, the OP is obviously a troll and I am not 100% convinced if that person is even an SFR player and not just a provocateur who wants to see some angry Vizunah player trashtalk and boast. Since it is WvWvW and not WvW it is completely normal and allowed for servers to team up against a third one.

As an SFR player myself let me tell you that only GOOD comes out of this 2v1. The queues are finally shorter, only players with some interest participate in WvWvW and not casual PVE achievement hunters. There is a lot to learn now and experience to gain. Not to mention players kills and loot bags. I got more than a thousand of player kills in just 2 hours. I would like to remind every single player that points will reset on Friday your kills and loot will not.

IMO the only bad thing that could happen to a server in WvW is the lack of resistance. Either you do not have anybody to fight with you or you do not have anybody to fight against. These problems can be found in the bronze league and not the gold league.

SUNTO.2341:

SFR is like goldfish . They have a memory of two seconds, no more .

The dumbest in all this is that there is a lot of good people on your server, but a minority throws him a total disrepute.

These sentences are in complete contradiction. Your extreme generalisation lowers the quality of your content.

SUNTO.2341:

Come here to accuse Vizunah to a double focus, I think that is the biggest joke since the beginning of the game, especially when you know what SFR done during some match-up . Honesty , humility and objectivity are concepts that are totally unknown to you .

It is not an accusation, it is an observation. Is there anything wrong with it? Should we disqualify VS? No and no.

SUNTO.2341:

It’s not for nothing that you’re the most hated server in Europe , especially not because you ’re the best. You took 80k in the first week of the league, and you have found every excuse in the world to justify your defeat, all the more laughable than the others .

Though I do not have the statistics to support or to disprove your theory but I think it is safe to say that tons of people dislike VS as a server/community as well.

SUNTO.2341:

Before the start of the league, you told everywhere you go blow everyone because you are the best server. You took a spanking in the first week .
After the first week and 200 excuses later, you promised us hell in the last week . For the moment, and I am aware that the game is far from finished, I have not felt the heat of the flames tickling my buttocks . So I wait to see if you’re as strong IG as you are arrogant on forum.

Is SFR the best? Well, we could be. To prove it to others though we should be able to handle 2v1 against top 5 servers better than we do now.

SUNTO.2341:

I hope you are sharers, because as you go, you’ll be two on the second step of the podium with Jade Sea. You know, Jade Sea, the server you double-focused with Elona last week

Since JS was the only one to be able to stand up against a 2v1 they definitely deserve to be second with us (and finish ahead of PS). I would share my cookies and milk with them if they ask me to. Ok, maybe not my cookies (I like them more).

Troma.3250:

But as usual you don’t want to listen anything, saying Piken is my b***, meh

First of all, the things you have quoted from before had nothing to do with each other. Second, I have never said anything like this. either.3417, Demannu.2805 said similar things but not me. I have been accused before of saying things I did not, it seems I better start getting used to it.

Saint Scarlet.2906:

I could but as i said to Wolf as far as i’m concerned as long as it doesn’t become a problem then it can just stay as a laughable matter. All the people involved have been told a big fat no deal, so unless that changes or they start to harrass members of our community the info stays out of the public eye. Take what we say with a pinch of salt by all means, this is the internet after all.

Its a shame though it would be nice to know if these ppl you mentioned are actually real. One thing can assure is that they do not have the power to force their policy on the whole community, mainly because we are against this idea.

Jayne.9251:

So you guys got weeks where you weren’t focused by either us or Viz. Piken did not get one of those weeks, and that’s fine.

Either us? We have faced you on the 5 the week remember? We only did not face VS three times though we wanted to.

Jayne.9251:

They kind of did. That quote was from Nov. 7.

What you have quoted only says what happens when it is a tie, but not defines a tie.
It is true it suggest what they could do if that happens, so you can be easily right!

Jayne.9251:

See Scarlet’s post.

Which part do you want me to look up?

Jayne.9251:

Lol go read last weeks match thread. That’s exactly what was repeated over and over.

Well thats something I can 100% believe though it was not me. So please do not treat me like one of them. A healthy sensation of competition is a good thing but being mad about it is another.

Jayne.9251:

And we have fraps and screen grabs of RS capping the eb keep on one side of the pix, while SFR is bunched up at the doorway killing any Piken coming in to defend, literally 10 feet from each other. But eb is always a big mess, and it is what it is.

I was part of tactics like this, but the follow up was always the same. After closing out PS, turn around and wipe RS, and yeah I admit PPT did not matter then. The thing that buffled me between PS, and VS that they did not engage each other even aftwerwards. Oh well, it is possible that SFR did something similar, but since everyone is so greedy for lootbags I doubt it.

Saint Scarlet.2906:

Well that just goes to show that either you haven’t played the game long or don’t really know many people on Piken that have been here for more than 2 months. Piken has had the majority of the top guilds in GW start on and play on our server at one point or another.

First of all I have played this game, and WvW since day 1. Second, I was talking about the fights in this season. I have had good fights against Piken before, but not now. I was quite active the 5th week trust me. This has to be the result of massive transfers that effected all top tier servers.

Saint Scarlet.2906:

Oh you caught me using a generalisation that isn’t accurate 100%, quick slap the cuffs on me and lock me up…..
I will say in all the times we’ve faced SFR i have seen a group of 20-30 players(guild group or not)maybe 20 times(this is while running around in a party of a few or as my guild of 20). Now from servers like ER/JS/BB/RS/AR/Viz i see that in the space of a couple of days usually just 1 day. Maybe i’m just very very unlucky and have never been on at the same time as these small group players or maybe it was the wrong border……chance is a wonderful thing.

No need for cuffs, but using words like never and generalising this way lower the content quality of what you want to say. Just like you have said chance is a wonderful thing, I might as well have missed those good fights against Piken that week.

Saint Scarlet.2906:

We have been approached by several members of you community/hierachy to help them beat Viz, yes the trolls have been at it too but also several “well respected” members of your community are too. We have turned down/ignored them all even when they offered to give us 50g a piece(commanders only that is)to help them, not entirely sure how serious that guy was but as he’s not a known troll and is a prominent member of your community i’m not sure. Whatever…… Piken will do as we always do, play the game for fun fights and not worry about wether we have enough ppt for some pixels.

I would like to ask you for those names. If those people are really well respected members of our community everyone has the right to know about it. There is no need to protect identity becuase the result will not be lifechanging for that person for sure. Otherwise you could provide some more info, it sounds like you are just making stuff up.

Saint Scarlet.2906:

The way you worded it is the same way every SFR player words it, like it’s something that affects them alone. I was just making you aware that other servers faced the same problem, forgive me if you are not able to handle this being on the “victim complex” server.

First week, was a bad week for all populated servers due to Meta achievements. WvW guilds, commannders stayed in queue while other players were running around hunting setnries, dolyaks, placing random siege, wasting supplies in SM to repair walls, etc.

This is what I have said, which part of it is worded the way I suggest it only effects SFR?

Saint Scarlet.2906:

Maybe try to read what i said again, i know generally people on SFR don’t understand it but i’ll repeat it in hopes the words might get through this time. We focused on Viz in the 1st week not SFR, our server enjoys fighting open field more not capping towers/keeps so we fight with Viz……have some fun……wipe or wipe them…..then in the time between the fights we go cap towers/keeps. It just so happens that Viz know how to protect thier stuff whereas your server like the majority of others, doesn’t(Piken included).
So…….heres the important part………we get a majority of our points off other servers coz they cannot defend properly but have better open field fights with Viz so we always make sure we can get a good fight and in the downtime cap something to keep everyone moving and interested(quick in and out, job done then for the fun of a fight with a decent opponent).

You make it sound like between two fights against VS blob on the open field, you just came across SFR and capped their towers, keeps like it is the easiest thing in the world. Sorry mate, but saying that 66% was a result of this, while you have maintained your focus battling VS is just flat out lie. I was a part of focusing other servers IE PS, and trust me that requires to spend your time mostly on their half of the map and wipe their zerg not the 3rd servers. And we are talking about 60% now, not to mention 80%. God, you must be spending all your time on AR’s kitten right now.

Jayne.9251:

By presenting only one side of the facts you show bias, so therefore any argument is negligible.

Okay now I do not know if you are stupid or just pretending to be one. There was no arguement. HE said PS focused VS on the first week more than SFR. It is NOT true, it is a fact that it is not true. I have pointed this out. You came into our conversation saying SFR focused PS more as well. Who the hell cares? Noone said they did not. If somebody said it, I’ll correct that person myself because it is not true. Am I biased? Man you have some reading problems.

Jayne.9251:

Well except for this:

DevonCarver.5370:

If there is a tie, each server will be awarded the rewards for that place. e.g. if NSP and IoJ tie for 8th each will receive 8th place rewards.

Since Anet did not come a up with a fair matchmaking some servers meet others twice and not 3 times. They did not defy what they mean by tie. IE: If SFR places first next week and VS last (highly unlikely) they would have the same number of points and performed against each other exactly the same way just switched places. Now thats a tie. Because this could happen they might have decided to give out rewards based only on points. Even if its true it does not change the fact that just as much VS does not want to be defeated by anyone in this season we do not want to have the same points as others. Man what a terrible people we are.

Jayne.9251:

Indeed. Like the OP

Is the OP representing SFR alone? He presents our community’s will? Is he a leader of SFR community? No, no and no.

Jayne.9251:

Kind of like the first round if the leagues? Ooooh, see what I did there?

Only difference is we didn’t have people saying we were going to “punish” SFR or other emotional silliness over a video game. So SFR is the only one to do that. I think most sensible players would recognize that’s a bit odd, at the least.

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I feel like you are suggesting I am mad for being double teamed the first week, and it is some kind of revenge SFR is taking. PS going for SFR in the first week was a smart move no doubt. The only signs that showed there could have been agreements between VS and PS was that as I have mentioned before, I witnessed PS, and VS blobs standing next to each other not engaging in combat. Now this is some hard thing to pull out if there is no clear agreement known to both sides that they do not attack each other.

As you have said it a video game so there is no punishment. SFR does what it wants to do it is just as simple.

Jayne.9251:

If you don’t quote SFR stats in this analogy, it’s otherwise misleading. SFR focused Piken just as much, if not more, than they did Viz, because your guys discovered the same thing we did — it was incredibly difficult to flip anything on Viz maps. Saying we did something while effectively ignoring your own servers actions is false logic.

I have never said SFR did not focus PS more than VS that week. I just simply responded to what your server mate said. It is false to say PS focused VS more, because you did not. Thats all I have said. Nobody was talking about SFR’s focus. I just don’t see how it is false logic to point out something thats clearly not true. Pls tell me.

Jayne.9251:

You need to check with your leaders. Several posts were made and reported by many many Piken guilds that members of SFR approached them on their individual forums asking to team up vs Viz in the final match. They offered to “push Jade sea to third this week to ensure we would share third spot in the leagues if we helped SFR beat Viz” when most of us did the math and recognized that any “favour” to push Jade Sea would help only SFR really and ensure they got at least second spot alone (not sure why there’s greed on that since all tied servers get the exact same reward, so SFR loses nothing really by sharing second spot). Anyhow, you can imagine how well that went over.

Lol, it at least gave us insight as to how things were orchestrated the week prior

If Jade Sea had the same points as SFR we would not be tied since every time we have encountered them we placed first. In every scoring system it favors the side that won more against the other one. Yet, as you have said SFR does not want to have the same points as they do, so the focus is on them right now.

BTW I do not need to check with anyone. The will of our community and leaders is well known and teaming up with Piken is not part of it. Some indivuduals may have done those things you have said, or may not have. But to be honest I could not care less since it does not have any effect on what will really happen. On 5th week SFR wanted PS to finish last for two reasons: 1. to ensure our second place in the league, 2. becuase we COULD (the first week created some delusions in some heads that needed correction).

RS and SFR focused PS because it was beneficial for both. No schemes or planning was needed, it was crystal clear for everyone who understands basic mathematics. It all lives in your head bud.

wux.7314:

Well SFR TS gets ddos attacked whenever we play vizuna. Maybe it’s not your servers ‘official tactic’ but one or some of your Vizuna players are doing it and Vizuna should be ashamed of this and trying to find the player responsible.

Oh and also we had a Vizuna guy who used to come on and drain our supplies from keep and towers building balistas etc and would troll in chat using french. He only came when we fought vizuna. We kept reporting him and he is gone now so hope he got banned.

I could list more of there behaviours but I’m sure you get the point. If you think players on your server are not using pathetic underhanded tactics youre wrong. Very wrong. Some vizuna players take winning so serious they are willing to cheat and ruin the game for others. Other servers have done bad stuff too like glitching into towers but not on the scale that Vizu does. Prehaps you aren’t aware of it as you don’t see it first hand.

Are you talking to me? I do not understand you. I am an SFR player, just like Demannu. I simply just find disgusting to compare a GAME to a real life war where those rules apply. He says nobody prevents us to do the same as VS does. With this logic everyone could just use hacks because its WAR am I right? No, stupid dumb point of view.

Spies on TS, I do not mind, lame as hell but I don’t mind. Being double teamed= more lootbags for me. DDoS definitely not acceptable and should be punished. All the other things you have said are the same thing I have said before. Did you misread something?