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The developers are heads-down working on the future content releases. We are also in the middle of launching the game in China. Launching a game in a new country is kind of a big deal. Because of the team’s focus on game development, they are not able to dedicate as much time out of their workday to posting on the forums. While they might have time to read the forums, they don’t necessarily have time to engage in discussion.
I know it’s hard to be patient in this down time between Living World seasons, but please bear with us. As much as you’re craving new content to play, the team is dying for you to play it.
Unfortunately, I can’t give you any information about future content, whether it’s plot spoilers or timeline. I can say that, as a player, I am very excited about the next season, and I cannot wait to see what you all think about it.
Please know that your feedback continues to be important, our devs are still reading (though they may not have time to respond), and we sincerely appreciate your support and you sharing all your thoughts with us (critical or otherwise).
Yes, but you were all excited about Season 1, and we all know how that turned out. Why has Anet seemingly decided that chasing potential players in China is worth turning off your current players by essentially going silent in terms of non customer service related posts? Your players are dying for information, and coming here, and saying, YET AGAIN (this was a constant theme in season 1), that you can’t tell us anything, but it’s going to be super awesome, doesn’t help. We feel like we’re talking into a black hole, and the company just doesn’t care about it’s current fanbase, because it seems millions of players in china. What are you going to do to counteract this feeling?
The one thing I don’t think you understand is that China is almost 100% PC gaming. Only a few months ago was a law banning console games just lifted after being in effect for 15 years. Chinese gamers have had nothing but PC games.
China is a bigger PC market than the US AND Korea, so yes, to sell GW2 in China is like a MASSIVE gold mine.
Again I emphasize they should have two separate teams, not one.
That is true, but as soon as the Chinese version is out, this means more money being brought into the company, allowing for more employees to be hired and new concepts being funded for.
Exactly. What I should have said in my first post is what I think this means and what I’m hoping it means is greater resources for ANet to deliver content to us. You have to give a little to get a little.
Them getting more money and resources is purely an assumption, the point I’m making is telling your player-base the ones who have been playing the game coming up on two years that we have to wait, because there focusing on other markets is just plain wrong.
The longer they make players wait, the more likely players are to focus their attention elsewhere. Also Delusional I noticed one of your other posts where you stated you just bought the game a few days ago. Of course you think the game is all shiny and new, because you haven’t been playing the same vanilla game for almost two years.
You are correct that I did indeed just get the game, but that doesn’t change my opinion. The fact remains that we can safely assume that them bringing the game to China, the most populated country in the world, will bring an influx of new players and a huge source of revenue. And generally more revenue equals company expansion and that means more people working on the game we love. (Played hundreds of hours of GW1, and loving GW2 so far.)
This is a generalization and assumption, our client is not going to get an influx of players. The Asian market is going to be playing on an entirely different client separate from ours.
The developers are heads-down working on the future content releases. We are also in the middle of launching the game in China. Launching a game in a new country is kind of a big deal. Because of the team’s focus on game development, they are not able to dedicate as much time out of their workday to posting on the forums. While they might have time to read the forums, they don’t necessarily have time to engage in discussion.
I know it’s hard to be patient in this down time between Living World seasons, but please bear with us. As much as you’re craving new content to play, the team is dying for you to play it.
Unfortunately, I can’t give you any information about future content, whether it’s plot spoilers or timeline. I can say that, as a player, I am very excited about the next season, and I cannot wait to see what you all think about it.
Please know that your feedback continues to be important, our devs are still reading (though they may not have time to respond), and we sincerely appreciate your support and you sharing all your thoughts with us (critical or otherwise).
Yes, but you were all excited about Season 1, and we all know how that turned out. Why has Anet seemingly decided that chasing potential players in China is worth turning off your current players by essentially going silent in terms of non customer service related posts? Your players are dying for information, and coming here, and saying, YET AGAIN (this was a constant theme in season 1), that you can’t tell us anything, but it’s going to be super awesome, doesn’t help. We feel like we’re talking into a black hole, and the company just doesn’t care about it’s current fanbase, because it seems millions of players in china. What are you going to do to counteract this feeling?
The one thing I don’t think you understand is that China is almost 100% PC gaming. Only a few months ago was a law banning console games just lifted after being in effect for 15 years. Chinese gamers have had nothing but PC games.
China is a bigger PC market than the US AND Korea, so yes, to sell GW2 in China is like a MASSIVE gold mine.
Again I emphasize they should have two separate teams, not one.
That is true, but as soon as the Chinese version is out, this means more money being brought into the company, allowing for more employees to be hired and new concepts being funded for.
Exactly. What I should have said in my first post is what I think this means and what I’m hoping it means is greater resources for ANet to deliver content to us. You have to give a little to get a little.
Them getting more money and resources is purely an assumption, the point I’m making is telling your player-base the ones who have been playing the game coming up on two years that we have to wait, because there focusing on other markets is just plain wrong.
The longer they make players wait, the more likely players are to focus their attention elsewhere. Also Delusional I noticed one of your other posts where you stated you just bought the game a few days ago. Of course you think the game is all shiny and new, because you haven’t been playing the same vanilla game for almost two years.
The developers are heads-down working on the future content releases. We are also in the middle of launching the game in China. Launching a game in a new country is kind of a big deal. Because of the team’s focus on game development, they are not able to dedicate as much time out of their workday to posting on the forums. While they might have time to read the forums, they don’t necessarily have time to engage in discussion.
I know it’s hard to be patient in this down time between Living World seasons, but please bear with us. As much as you’re craving new content to play, the team is dying for you to play it.
Unfortunately, I can’t give you any information about future content, whether it’s plot spoilers or timeline. I can say that, as a player, I am very excited about the next season, and I cannot wait to see what you all think about it.
Please know that your feedback continues to be important, our devs are still reading (though they may not have time to respond), and we sincerely appreciate your support and you sharing all your thoughts with us (critical or otherwise).
Yes, but you were all excited about Season 1, and we all know how that turned out. Why has Anet seemingly decided that chasing potential players in China is worth turning off your current players by essentially going silent in terms of non customer service related posts? Your players are dying for information, and coming here, and saying, YET AGAIN (this was a constant theme in season 1), that you can’t tell us anything, but it’s going to be super awesome, doesn’t help. We feel like we’re talking into a black hole, and the company just doesn’t care about it’s current fanbase, because it seems millions of players in china. What are you going to do to counteract this feeling?
The one thing I don’t think you understand is that China is almost 100% PC gaming. Only a few months ago was a law banning console games just lifted after being in effect for 15 years. Chinese gamers have had nothing but PC games.
China is a bigger PC market than the US AND Korea, so yes, to sell GW2 in China is like a MASSIVE gold mine.
Again I emphasize they should have two separate teams, not one.
The developers are heads-down working on the future content releases. We are also in the middle of launching the game in China. Launching a game in a new country is kind of a big deal. Because of the team’s focus on game development, they are not able to dedicate as much time out of their workday to posting on the forums. While they might have time to read the forums, they don’t necessarily have time to engage in discussion.
I know it’s hard to be patient in this down time between Living World seasons, but please bear with us. As much as you’re craving new content to play, the team is dying for you to play it.
Unfortunately, I can’t give you any information about future content, whether it’s plot spoilers or timeline. I can say that, as a player, I am very excited about the next season, and I cannot wait to see what you all think about it.
Please know that your feedback continues to be important, our devs are still reading (though they may not have time to respond), and we sincerely appreciate your support and you sharing all your thoughts with us (critical or otherwise).
The other issue I have with this response is your basically saying, thanks for supporting our game; however we are focusing on something other than your client and putting NA on hold. I understand all Anet sees Asian market as $$$, but seriously this is a pretty bad response. This response feels like your treating the NA client like a lost cause and putting all focus elsewhere.
That’s what happens when you communicate to the player-base poorly or with incredibly vague information; we have nothing else to do but assume you know longer care what the majority of your player-base thinks or wants.
My final closing statement, “this thread deems an actual response.” The response given to us thus far is empty and worthless. Try again, this time actually try
Am I the only one who hates these posts? Yes that is exactly what they are saying. They have put releasing content on hold to get the game going in another country… I don’t know why that’s hard to understand? I can’t begin to imagine the work involved in that and personally I’d rather wait a little while longer, let them release the game in China, have the increased revenue, and return to building awesome content for all regions. I find his response 100% satisfying and actually makes me excited to see what’s in store.
Your missing the point, the point is they should have two separate teams instead there focusing all their resources on an entirely different client. As an avid NA Client player I don’t care about the Asian release. When I support GW2 I support NA Client not Asian Market. Secondly your making assumptions in regards to where the revenue goes whether it be NA or Asian markets. No one but NCsoft and Anet knows where the revenue is going to go.
The developers are heads-down working on the future content releases. We are also in the middle of launching the game in China. Launching a game in a new country is kind of a big deal. Because of the team’s focus on game development, they are not able to dedicate as much time out of their workday to posting on the forums. While they might have time to read the forums, they don’t necessarily have time to engage in discussion.
I know it’s hard to be patient in this down time between Living World seasons, but please bear with us. As much as you’re craving new content to play, the team is dying for you to play it.
Unfortunately, I can’t give you any information about future content, whether it’s plot spoilers or timeline. I can say that, as a player, I am very excited about the next season, and I cannot wait to see what you all think about it.
Please know that your feedback continues to be important, our devs are still reading (though they may not have time to respond), and we sincerely appreciate your support and you sharing all your thoughts with us (critical or otherwise).
The other issue I have with this response is your basically saying, thanks for supporting our game; however we are focusing on something other than your client and putting NA on hold. I understand all Anet sees Asian market as $$$, but seriously this is a pretty bad response. This response feels like your treating the NA client like a lost cause and putting all focus elsewhere.
That’s what happens when you communicate to the player-base poorly or with incredibly vague information; we have nothing else to do but assume you know longer care what the majority of your player-base thinks or wants.
My final closing statement, “this thread deems an actual response.” The response given to us thus far is empty and worthless. Try again, this time actually try
The developers are heads-down working on the future content releases. We are also in the middle of launching the game in China. Launching a game in a new country is kind of a big deal. Because of the team’s focus on game development, they are not able to dedicate as much time out of their workday to posting on the forums. While they might have time to read the forums, they don’t necessarily have time to engage in discussion.
I know it’s hard to be patient in this down time between Living World seasons, but please bear with us. As much as you’re craving new content to play, the team is dying for you to play it.
Unfortunately, I can’t give you any information about future content, whether it’s plot spoilers or timeline. I can say that, as a player, I am very excited about the next season, and I cannot wait to see what you all think about it.
Please know that your feedback continues to be important, our devs are still reading (though they may not have time to respond), and we sincerely appreciate your support and you sharing all your thoughts with us (critical or otherwise).
Though I am surprised the thread actually received a response, I am not at all shocked at the response given.
So not only have we received two long breaks one prior feature patch and one after feature patch, but both times we received no approx time for new content. As a long and valued player having no timeline on when to expect patches, even approx makes it harder for me to want to spend time in the game. I really only login to either do dailies or a fractal, then I just log out.
My Anet friend the feedback I give to you is PLEASE communicate with your player-base besides saying “be patient it’s gonna come.” I understand being hush hush and what it will entail for stories and spoiler, but the main point of the thread is WHEN not WHAT.
An important business statistic is customer acquisition. Once a player leaves it’s going to cost your business more to reacquire them in the future. Please consider at least telling your player-base the month or even how many months out. Do you think it is smart for your company to refrain from communicating to its players when you have major competitors on the horizon, that being ESO and Wildstar that have fresh new content?
Based on your reply I assume 3-4 months from the April 15th. So July or August.
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I look at MMO’s — heck, video games in general — from a stimulus/response point of view. On a macro level, the stimulus is what the game provides one to do, and the response is enjoyment (whether we think of that as overcoming challenge, getting rewards, doing things with friends, etc.). The problem is that humans become jaded. Once the stimulus has been experienced enough times, the enjoyment falls below a “Boredom Threshold.” This point is going to be different for different people. Once it has been reached, though, the demand for new stimulus starts. Demand for new can in fact start in short order after the last new stimulus was made available.
As GW2 consumers, we’ve been conditioned to expect “something new every two weeks.” That was where this thread started. Since, the, “LS is not good” and the, “Need Expansion” posts started showing up. Ultimately, though, much of the dissatisfaction boils down to personal thresholds for boredom being exceeded or the new stimulus not being enjoyed. Every bit of new content, no matter what it is, hits obsolescence sooner or later.
The LS approach was designed to address this problem. One issue with it was that too many posters did not enjoy it. This may have been because they wanted something different, because their schedules didn’t allow them to experience it, etc. Another is that now that we have been conditioned, a break in the schedule prompts upset.
So, what’s the point? I find that taking this perspective allows me to step outside of what I want, to the point that I stop caring so much. Or, maybe it’s because, for me, analyzing GW2 issues is a stimulus that provokes an enjoyment response.
regarding your points on stimulus. I can agree with that to some extent. I’m not disappointed that there is a gap in content; I’m disappointed with the lack of communication revolving around whats to come.