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take out the curses to put that extra 5 in soul reaping. getting and extra 50% crit in death shroud is far better than the fury it gives you in curses.
was thinking 30/0/10/0/30 myself. that 10 in death could probably be put anywhere. maybe 10 in curses for the extra precision. Also read that there are a few necro zerkers who do not equips a second main hand weapon and use weapons swap just to swap out the offhand, keeping an axe available no matter what weapons swap you are in. life blasts critting constantly while in ds and popping out just for life force regen and axe 2.
i used to run zerker on my necro all the time for dungeons. I was using my axe 2 as much as possible between popping into death shroud to spam life blast then back out to axe 2. trying to keep as much up time as i could on high dps moves. i would put 15 points in curses to get the fury on DS. the spec i was using could totally be reworked for the 30 points in soul reaping to max out more crit in DS and crit damage from the tree itself.
if anything it just made zerker more viable.
but then, they could have dropped flesh of the master down to adept. honestly, no one is going to take that trait unless they are going MM and putting 30 in death magic. then make the improved staff in the master tree. minion cd reduction is meh imo.
5 sec duration is the only qualm i have with it. I took the improved duration as well and counted. It looks like a 50% duration increase (adding 2.5 seconds), which imo is still not enough. I love the fear way more than the vuln that it gave before and I see your point of not getting the second protection out of it. I am seeing it more and more that it wasn’t a buff or nerf. it was a rework. less functional for roaming or spvp but way more function for wvw utility and bottlenecks.
i am using full rabid and put 0/30/10/0/30.
lots of fear, condi damage, and 2 sources of stability with well of power.
with your lack of power, i wouldn’t go with spite/curses unless you had carrion gear.
agreed.
every single build i have has 10 points into Death Magic just for improved marks to get the larger area effect.
the first thing ive done with the new builds is to go back to terrormancer. I put 0/30/10/0/30. utilities of spectral wall, epidemic, and optional (well of power/signet of locust/spectral grasp) loving it so far, but most likely will need adjustment. it’s too new to tell.
btw, i am loving spectral wall/staff 5/doom for keeping up fear while my bleeds tick.
make sure you take fear duration traits and fear damage traits while using runes of necro for fear duration. haven’t done any dungeons with it yet only wvw.
truth is, the better looking the skin is, the more time is going to be required to get it.
as you have mentioned there is the azureflame long bow (very nice, looks like the guardians bow summon) similiar to craft is the wintersbite longbow (corrupted lodestones instead of charged and gift of sancutary instead of ascalon). someone also mentioned the wings of Dwayna which is my personal favorite longbow skin. Kudzu and Fractal skins are good but hard to get.
not as good as the dwayna one but much cheaper solution is the seraph long bow and i am also fond of the arah bow, Longbow of the Dragons Deep (arah is not that difficult when you get used to it). corrupted longbow is not bad either but still need corrupted lodestones.
first off, i get and agree with your point about how they are making it harder and harder to farm mats and such. it is kind of annoying that it is kind of difficult to go out and farm t6 scales or whatever and I find that the easiest option is to run CoF p1 till your eyes bleed, just to get the gold to buy the things you need. some people will buy gems and use the gems to get gold to buy what they need. That is their prerogative. sometimes i dont want to play with people and i just want to go out and farm mindlessly to take my mind off of other things. Orr is not very rewarding in this way. I believe that the economy of the game would be stronger if was a better control on supply and demand. example: Southsun event dropped the price of t6 bloods temporarily because the influx of supply. This gives the gamers a window of opportunity to get the bloods while they can and an opportunity for the TP players to flip a profit after the bloods go back up. More of this please! do it for different areas and every month, the farming is focused on an area making the game look more active outside of LA and wvw.
I dont agree with how you are taking the example of the thank you gift from anet and using it as some negative argument that Anet only appreciates the people who buy gems.
The way i have always looked at it, is that the items on the shop are aesthetic and no major advantage is given. This game could have easily put a sub fee but decided that that business model is dead (which it is). Instead, the gem store is the OPTIONAL sub fee. EVERYONE that i have played with that puts money in the gem store does it because 1. they want to support the game financially and 2. because want the cool things that you can buy at the store. They usually say the same thing. “There is no sub fee so i don’t mind giving them a few extra buck every month or so.” Now these people are getting a “Hey dude, thanks for supporting our gem shop. We count on these gem shop purchases to continue to bring you and others like you the continually evolving content that you love so much. Have a few free mini pets as a token of our appreciation” and you interpret it as propaganda to force people into the gem shop or you wont have as much fun as the other guy next to you.
you should adjust the way you look at the situation. Everyone sees the point that you are trying to make and they are all just saying, you are wrong.
since zero of the people who read this agreed with you, isn’t it at all, just the littlest bit possible, that it is you that needs the attitude adjustment?
it seems he also has a shout where he puts his conditions on the party. kinda rough but we got through him.
warning though, there are some undocumented changes here.
was there an undocumented change to arah path 3 in the june 11th patch?
crusher seems to either summon adds during the fight or he is rezzing the dead sentinals/defilers/elementalists during the fight. Has anyone else done arah path 3 today and noticed this change?
Dwayna is open on Henge of Denravi
looking a US server, thanks.
Looking for a server that has Dwayna and Grenth open
hit 80 on my new 80 and looking to get some exotic PVT. temples are not open on HoD.
Anyone see if they have those temples open and let me know what server?
Hey HoD, I forgot to give you guys a shoutout from… last night? This weekend? Things are blurry, yo. But I saw three or four of you running around with ruminant tonics, and it cracked me up. Especially when you all converged on a buddy of mine like you were eating his dead body. I love this silly stuff.
Hey, i recognize that!
that was Lyra, Ark, and myself. We have been running around with ruminic tonics a lot lately. Funny how a group of 5 will just run instead of fight when they see 5 Yak in formation getting ready for a YAK ATTACK!
it doesn’t help that on HoD last night there was more of our commanders chewing each other out instead of leading. a few of our better commanders have jumped ship and gone to GoM. Another of our better guilds with better commanders jumped ship to DH. the original core of HoD isn’t on HoD anymore. Hell, i was playing wvw on HoD since launch when we were #1 server and everyone jumped ship to Jade Quarry. More recently, we got an influx of people with free transfers and lost most of our best people at the same time. Now i hear people on my server are boycotting wvw… /sigh. I said i’d never just jump ship like so many others but honestly, i dont want to be associated with QQing boycotting, sore losers. It has nothing to do with the low scores or double digit potentials. If this trend continues, i dont know how much more i can take.
You are right though, we need to rally and not boycott wvw.
here’s to next week! cheers. clink
I used to use a similar build but eventually decided that wells are garbage. I like corruptions skills much better. Consume conditions is probably one of the best heals in the game for any profession (at least any of the professions i play) and compliments very well with the bleeds from BiP/corrupt boon and epidemic. Epidemic and corrupt boon are incredibly useful in wvw. find that guardian or ele or mesmer with the most boons on them, corrupt those boons, epidemic, watch the little white numbers fly. for 3rd utility, i usually use something with movement speed. signet of locust or spectral walk. But these are just my opinions. (oh just remembered. sometimes i take bone minions, just to blast finish them in water fields for AoE healing or fire fields for might)
If you go this route, take off the targeted wells and put 20% cd reduction on corruption skills. everything else seems fine besides master trait in Blood. maybe change that to 50% effective health siphon. Blood magic is decent healing if you keep yourself topped off with regen at all times.
my well evaluations:
Consume Conditions>Well of Blood
CC gives condi removal and is a strong heal on a 25 sec CD. also, removes poison before healing, which is great. Well of blood would be better if it were a water field instead of light, but i understand why it is what it is. also WoB has a 45 sec CD and only removes conditions when blasted.
Corrupt Boon>Well of Corruption (debatable)
CB takes all condi’s off and doesn’t require the person to be a baddie noob and stand in your well for 6 seconds. that’s my stand on it.
Well of Suffering
great well, but better scaling with power rather than condition damage. there are better options, imo.
Well of Darkness
actually a really good skill and might be worth taking. especially if you take the first tier major trait to cause chill on blindness. I always take this on my dagger build.
Lodestones should be rare and hard to find. upgrading cores to lodestones give a decent profit depending on the core to lodestone price difference. As I recall, some are more expensive to buy the cores+wine+dust than to buy the lodestones. I wouldn’t mind seeing increased drops on cores (not from chests in dungeons, drop rates seem fair) but i’d rather see some of these things farmable in the actual world. maybe higher drop rates from champs, since they tend to drop garbage most of the time.
agreed. having the same issue on Henge of Denravi. cant find a single lost and found item. also the last thing i need to complete the achievements for F&F. I’d like to get the gauntlet skin.
anyone seen any dirt covered objects on their server?
agreed 1000%
Also
PS: English is my third language and I’m dyslectic. So hold your spelling and grammer crap, I did my best.
Your english and spelling is still better than most people on this forum.
yeah, i got a few in orr in the last few days. unfortunately, i was tricked into thinking it was good but turns out it was a putrid essence…… god i hate those things. get my hopes up and everything.
Aether is a sweet skin. looks like the spirit bow that guardians summon
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Aether
try that one out. hardest part of gift of light is the 100 charged lodestones. but still cool looking.
yes, this build is not designed for damage and is just a bunker experiment outside of the norm. I have full zerker that i usually go 30/0/10/0/30 or 30/15/0/25/0 depending on if i want to use a staff or not. I also have a full condi build with full rabid (my main build, all of my infused and ascended peices are rabid so far) going 0/30/10/30/0. I am aware of the benefits inside of the spite or curses trees. But this thread is not about those builds. The one weapon set that i rarely use is a dagger mainhand and most of the builds i find that use main hand dagger are juggermancers builds. I am not the big of a fan of most of the juggermancer builds ive seen out there ankittenrying to experiment with a bunker dagger build.
@anchoku
You do make a good point that i have the extra 30% crit in the soul reaping tree and i feel that i am not taking advantage of it or putting it into consideration. going to try putting this into knights gear to max out toughness as well as having extra precision instead of vitality. perhaps that can help make up some the lacking damage though i would be sacrificing some power since power is primary on soldiers and toughness is primary on knights.
hydromancy sigil might be a really good idea for the aoe chill and blind (w/ 10 in curses.) I also might rethink some of these traits hence the 10 in curses comment. I do not want to drop the 30 in soul reaping as i believe that stability is too useful for so many encounters. also deathshroud works well with power and is handy for extension of the health pool. Ill probably take out of blood to put 10 in curses and try that out. I probably wont limit this to PvE but it most likely wouldn’t make a good WvW build. May try some point holding in spvp.
Any other suggestions on rune sets that might be synergetic with this build?
Thanks for the input.
i was thinking of doing bloodthirst instead of dagger mastery actually but i should definitely try transfusion seeing how i plan and trying to take advantage of weaving in and out of deathshroud. i actually run basically the exact same trait build that you posted there in spvp and btw have found it a very successful build. I will take your advise into consideration
thanks for replying.
Hey there necro community. Long time listener, First time caller here.
been playing necro as my main since release. I have a full rabid set and did the conditionmancer. Have a full zerker set and have done axe/focus build. I am now working on trying out a tankier necro that uses a dagger and undecided offhand with a staff as the off weapon. trait set of 0/0/25/15/30. right now set to focus for additional vuln and self regen on 4 and boon removal/chill on 5.
http://www.guildhead.com/skill-calc#mVVMMm9cmblMMmbCFM9MpfxMVzmaq
I have had some success “tanking” in dungeons with this build so far. life force regen, utilizing deathshroud properly for on demand stability, between doom and reapers mark i can get a couple interrupts (was thinking of warhorn offhand for a 3rd interrupt that is more accessible.) I can give myself protection with spectral utilities and siphoning health never hurts. I am running soldiers gear at the moment, kind of a hodgepodge of SE, AC, and HotW gear. Right now im just using crests of the soldier but i cant help but think that there is something else i can use.
I guess the main question i have is what runes and sigils would you use here? was thinking of warriors runes for vit, pow, and -1s on weapon swap which would allow for synergy with ‘on weapon swap’ sigils. Also, what changes would you make to this build? please give your reasoning.
Thanks in advance guys.
I agree that DS needs some improvement. I sometimes run a 30/0/10/0/30 build with zerker gear on. I weave in and out of death shroud for no more than a few seconds at a time. I pop in and shoot a few life blasts while my axe 2 is on CD and pop back out for axe 2, swap to staff and use marks (traited to give LF) to power my LF back to full, and back to axe for axe 2 and DS for life blast spam. For this rotation and setup, DS fully meets my needs and DS can also be used as an extra life bar if i am low. mixing LB into my rotation contributes to my dps and can extend my life if need be. I also have a full condition set where i would like to so a similar thing. I want to be able to weave in and out of DS and top off my conditions or increase my condition damage while in DS, or be able to continue to stack bleeds and poison, or even a large bursting damage move based on conditions (similar to scepter 3 but stronger and on a longer CD).
I would also like to see that life siphons and healing could be used in DS to replenish my health pool while in DS. If not actually being able to use my heal in DS, then to at least see my CD’s. I honestly think that if you could use your utility skills in DS and you do, then you are wasting LF and should leave DS to use them. Otherwise, DS is not as bad as some people are making it out to be. I actually really like using DS.
The main complaint or criticism i have is that the F1-F4 abilities of all professions should be useful for all builds. warriors not using their adrenaline abilities because they want their passive abilities from traits seems like the same kind of issue. (I dont have a warrior, yet. so i dont know much about it.)
If it is a robot unicorn attack reference, they stole it from the muppets. Does no one remember kermit’s rainbow connection?
“Some day we’ll find it.
The rainbow connection.
The lover, The dreamer and meeeeee.
Laa la la leeee la luuuu.”