Guild Wars 2

Seriously why are people still arguing about HoD and TA?
Does anyone here really give a kitten about it anymore (who isn’t stroking themselves)?

Since the malleability of the servers and WvW population, it’s all pretty much moot anyways.

Just frelling kill each other on the field or do something else.
Noone cares about excuses. Noone cares how many times your team won since there really aren’t any teams until populations are locked down.

Group with your guild / buddies and stomp your opponent into the ground. If you have fun – great! If not – well hopefully there are more pvp games on the horizon who can catch that fading glimmer that is DAoC.

lepri.6504:

may be in the expansion they will remember us.

Ahh, but how many of us do you think will remember to pull out our wallets?

I think it’s pointless giving feedback.
3 months with glaring bug fixes (or at least zero feedback regarding them)

I think my time with this class and time in WvW means very little to this company.

Well on the bright side of all of this; Planetside 2 Engineers look like they could be fun =)

I think people in general are just bored.
I do wish they had as many pvp content patches as pve.

Some pvp events would be pretty sweet.

Ugh, this is the 3rd week in a row of the same match-up.
Do we also have to have the same exact conversations and arguments as well?

Who here really gives a kitten if they win or lose this match even?

So from conspiracy, to 2v1, to smear campaign.

Just as long it’s everyone else’s fault but your own.
This sound right to anyone else?

derv of doom.6352:

The only reason BG appears to be weak is because nearly half the server thinks that SBO and JQ were comuncating with each other to double team BG last week. Big surprise none of the want to fight 100 vs 200 for another week. We are droping to tier 2 so we dont have to put up with the crap from a couple guilds who want nothing more thn JQ to be SBI’s workhorse in T1. Once we are there both servers better hope they never get into a t2 match with BG because it will be payback time then and and you will have to fight for the scraps of T3.

Except we’ve both already beaten you in T2 before..
Seriously tired of this 2v1 thing. Get over yourselves.

Emo, stop making this thread all about you!

Siege doesn’t pay for itself and sadly most people don’t purchase.
Any chance for badges is worth an attack.

More BG chest thumping?
Directed to a Korean speaking guild?

hah

I believe this was SF guild who pulled this off. Jedbaca leading if I’m not mistaken. If I am, someone correct me.

elderan.2638:

First? Second? Either way Jade Quarry and Stormbluff Isle are locked in an eternal battle, fought between immortal armies until the end of time. When will the madness end? When will we realize that for all our battles and bloodshed, all our siege and savagery, all our golems and gore that we have accomplished nothing? Walls may fall, but they are forever rebuilt; points may be gained, but they are forever reset; enemies may be slain, but they are forever reborn from the ashes. That eternal question begins to grow in our mind, begging to be answered: What’s the meaning of it all?

To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women.

Man you guys are slick.
We’ve been trying to keep the conspiracy secret, but it finally came out.

Time to give up the covert operation guys. Our nefarious plan to 2v1 BG has been brought out into the light of day.

Seriously, drop it already. Even if you were being 2v1 do you think coming onto these boards would do anything to change that situation?
Personally, I just want to fight people and take possessions off of their corpses.

Why can’t we all just kill each other and have fun?

Remember when we used to mainly post scores in the T1 thread?
That and good fights?

I was really hoping since this was a rematch that we would leave the accusations and excuses behind this fight.

I’m glad I still enjoy a good fight.

The technology to make wheels on siege engines actually work.
It’s odd that we have invented gunpowder and teleporting, but we still can’t figure out the wheel..

Best move for WvW to date.

Tell me how many melee you think can make it to the center of a 40 man turtle.

Also, the turtles get constant healing, stability and full boons pretty much.
There are no drawbacks to using this tactic.

But like I said, if aoes end up being too strong, ANET will just have to nerf damage.

Arani.9057:

There are already 10 people dropping AoE including siege already when I double tap through lords room… I’ve never died in the Lord’s room Choke even once. If they kill me it’s further in. There are a couple chokes that I find tougher than most Lords rooms but I have yet to say gee commander that’s a lot of AoE I don’t know if I can get in this time.

Well put.
All this exaggeration about aoe damage is just silly. You guys are making it sound like backstabbing rogues that blanket an entire map.

We can dodge twice. If people are having issues surviving trivial aoe damage like this, maybe they need to stop speccing glass canon.

Well organized groups of eles and necros aren’t doing a kitten thing now to 5 targets.
I think I’ll take my chances and maybe use my dodge ability…

Cheap tactics that are broken need to be fixed. The best way to fix this is to remove aoe caps. If for some crazy reason damage on aoes needs to be adjusted after that, I’m sure ANET can handle the job.
Because what you are saying sounds like aoes do wayyyy too much damage anyways and need a nerf.
Otherwise this game is going to turn into who has the best turtle; if that is your idea of fun then I’m sure your life as a bot will be rewarding and uncomplicated.

The thing with heal specs – noone wants to heal spec. There is no reward.
Combine that with there are much more damaging aoes than healing ones.. and this cheap tactic borderline exploit would be fixed.

But seriously, the blackgate server we fought 3 weeks ago I have respect for as an adversary. This one?
Cheap. Laughable. Exploiters.

Also, mesmer portals aren’t limited to 5. Nor are warrior shouts.

Not even 24 hours in and I’m seeing what, 3-5 cases of orb hacking?

Where did all this trash come from?

When people can spike for 8-15k depending on your toughness – yes it’s pretty bad.

AoE is to punish people for not spreading out.
There should be zero reward for stacking up like a pve encounter.

Unlimited targets and this cheese will stop in a day.

Unfortunately it appears that the meta-game of GW2 is utilizing all bugs and poorly coded situations to take advantage of your opponents.

See – Orb Hacks.
Invisible Zergs / Rendering Abuse.
Max Target Abuse

I can’t wait to see what they figure out next week to break the system.

Well so far I’m seeing the exploitation of limited coding and foresight. Exploit by definition means to take unfair advantage of a person or thing. In gaming it generally means to utilize an ability or situation that was not intended to be used in such a manner.
Exploiting is not the same thing as hacking.

A)Turtling. (If you truly believe ANET wanted people to stack to circumvent AoE damage – you are deluding yourself)
B) Portal Bombing – exploiting known and classified rendering issues to make armies invisible.
C) At least one verified Orb Fly Hack.

All of these things from the same server – evidently proud of the fact.

If that’s what it takes to win at any cost; I’d rather lose.

Edit – This combined with your previous opponents and what they have to say about you, well I really have no words for a server like that.

Man the amount of kitten talk towards IoJ is just poor sportsmanship.
Their first week in T1 and they performed great. All servers did.

Where JQ went the past 2 days – no clue on that one. Almost feels like they decided they wanted 2nd place or some pvp guilds left.

I’m really not excited about gaining the transfer herpes.
Seriously, I don’t want my server community destroyed like so many others.

GW2 – the only game that destroys your server if you win!

Well stats not scaling AND sigils not working with kits is what we generally have issue with.

The only replies I see from devs lately regarding WvW are deleting of posts and very terse / rude comments with next to zero explanation.

These are not the droids you are looking for.

I’ve done /dance once.
A thief tried jumping me – but he wasn’t very good I guess. Killed him.
The moment the spike is down another thief has a go at me.
20 seconds later he’s dead next to his buddy.

I had to give a little jangle between em =)

I’ll also do /bow or /salute if it’s a really good 1v1 without any adds.

Well really it was the best WvW weekend I’ve been in guys.
Hopefully we can do it again next week =)

I do wish though that the matches were 3 days long instead of a week.

Well considering Elementalists had their downed state buffed a lot, we now officially have THE worst downed state.

Free spikes on Engis for all!

I would appreciate dev input if we are even going to get sigil / stats on our kits.

Looks like the match will be determined by coverage starting on Monday.
Has been a great fight so far everyone!
I really enjoyed the SM fight in the early early morning where it was all 3 of us fighting in the lord room.

Ya the culling or invis bug seems worse since last night’s patch.

I do like how he mentioned overpowered Engineers too.
I think that’s the first time we’ve been accused of that. flex

zastari.1730:

the Maguuma / DB / SoS scoreboard looks the exact same… Except the ratio from green’s score to the rest is even worse. Most of us on Maguuma are still having a blast though. We’re absolutely slaughtering SoS given our disparity in numbers, and we have an awesome time during the nightly garrison hold while we try to keep our last piece of the map from falling over.

OP, if you’re complaining about the game not being fun because you’re behind, you’re probably one of those fair-weather players who is going to hop to whatever server is in the lead at any given time. Realize that it’s the same mentality that you’re giving in this thread that is causing these stupid matchups to appear in the first place.

Nope. I’ve been part of SBI since early release. I log into WvW everyday regardless if we are winning or losing.
I play this game for the pvp combat. When one side has a drastic population difference than the other (and is unable to progress at all due to this) the game become boring. Not fun.

What this game NEEDS is a way to make population not the key ingredient to winning.
Tactics should matter more than numbers.
Zerg VS Zerg is not what I want to play.

http://i45.tinypic.com/2jd10k8.jpg

Does anyone actually think this is fun?
I mean this is supposed to be the highest echelon of WvW combat.
The system in my opinion is broken.

I’ve thought about moving servers to a closer matched conflict. However, I do not believe those exist. It appears there is always one server that completely dominates the other 2.
How can anyone actually enjoy that? Winner or Losers.

In my opinion (Yours may differ drastically from mine) what this game needs, is to give undermanned teams the tools to at least have a fighting chance against superior numbers. That and to eventually balance out the servers.

Short term:
1. Disable all transfers to high population servers.
2. Swap out the Orb Bonus and the Outmaned Bonus.

Mid-Term
1. Remove Downed State Mechanics from WvW. Keep the ability to resurrect players however. This would benefit small scale group tactics versus zergs.
2. Give Server Entrances permanent siege weapons to combat zone campers.
3. Give Server Entrances a supply resource.

Long-Term
1. Halve the points acquired from holding objectives. Reward 1 point for each pvp kill. This would make pvp more important and would also make defending a more vital role than just zerg sweeping the map.

I believe these changes would at least provide a fighting chance to teams facing a higher populated server – without giving unfair advantage.
As things stand right now, I’m very bored.

Horrible mechanic.
Deters small tactic guerrilla warfare. Makes fighting more than one opponent almost impossible. Always will favor the side with more numbers.
AoE strong classes will also gain more benefit.

Not to mention just how imbalanced some of the class downed states are.

But this won’t change.
Trash ideas for pvp with little thought put into it’s endgame.

Haha!
That was epic!

I’ve been testing Elixir X lately and I believe it needs some tweeks in order for it to be chosen over Supply Crate.

1. Remove the 2nd cast bar upon transformation.
2. Make auto-attack settings save. Each time we transform we have to set auto-attacks on a time sensitive ability.
3. Make sigils work with this and weapon stats – when you fix sigils and weapon stats with our other kits.
4. 95% of the time you transform into the Juggernaut form – is this intentional?
5. All of our skills are disabled when we us this form. Which means to me whatever we transform to should be able to at least be marginally comparable to all of our skills combined.
This is not the case. I suggest giving the same effect as the 6 Lyssa Rune Bonus: All Boons when we transform.
6. Give us our heal ability back. This elite is nowhere good enough to opt out of our heal skill for 20+ seconds while turning us into a melee class in the process. We’re already painting a huge target on ourselves – we need more survivability.
That or give us a strong regen.
7. Smash (Juggernaut 1 ability) should be a 3 target frontal cone attack. Like every other melee ability in the game.
8. Make Elite Supplies actually work with Elixir X.

With all of these changes I think the elixir could be pretty fun.

Well done Chaster.
Well done!

Warhammer.
Age of Conan.
Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic.

Guess what all of these dying / dead games have in common. They too didn’t know how to program worth a kitten when it came to mass pvp.
Fix your kitten Anet. If people cannot fight they will not play your buggy game.

Can’t play like this.
I’m expecting an emergency patch for this FUBAR of a patch.

How difficult is it to make things better when you patch, not progressively worse?

Well I’m having a good time personally.
I also agree that no matter what it’s going to appear there is 2v1. Even if there is an alliance that’s how the game is meant to be played!

Just ignore the trash talk from the minority and have fun guys =)

Oh don’t get me wrong, I’d love to use it.
I just feel rifle / elixirs provide much more damage, survivability and utility.

I’m a 20/20/0/30/0 spec.

I came to this conclusion AFTER I made +condition damage exotics for every slot..
So I have to regear now for rifle.

The problems with elixir gun that I have are thus:

1. Does not benefit from Sigils.
2. Does not benefit from my weapon stats.
3. Wastes a skill slot (Since other classes can just swap weapons for the same effect of changing their 1-5 key abilities) This is mitigated if you use 2 kits however.
4. Does roughly the same damage as rifle, but half of it is in condition form and requires 3-5 shots to match the rifle damage.
5. Condition damage does not work at all on inanimate objects such as doors, turrets, siege engines.
6. The ease of use of removing conditions and prevention of condition damage (You yourself are immune to half of elixir damage after 25% life)
7. The number 2 ability arcs to your opponent, missing half the time.

Other than that, it’s great!

Versus the GW2 spotless PvP experience of invisible zergs and players.
Common exploits and hacking.
Along with matches that for the most part are decided in days but continue on into weeks.

I’m level 80 I never once had to group with anyone to do quests aside from dungeons.
This game feels very much like SWTOR did.

Faction imbalances is what killed SWTOR pvp (along with the horrendous graphics lag for RvR)
The largest thread in this forum is basically about the same issue at the very top.

No endgame really other than a flawed system like this and no real way to better my character other than a legendary.. I think Xfire is telling the truth here.

Also, for those saying it’s better that people leave to free up resources: F2P games make their money through their cash shop. If players aren’t playing, the game company is not making a profit.
They both depend on customers to continue using their product. It’s just a different form of monetary transaction.

They could easily save it if we got the equivalent of Realm Ranks from DAoC.
Extra abilities based on how many people you kill basically.

But that won’t happen before it’s too late.

I really have very little hope for the future of WvW.
I also have a feeling if there were monthly rates the vast majority of pvpers would of cancelled by now.