Guild Wars 2

Envy.1679:

I don’t see a problem. Your guildies relied on you to organize the events so that they could get the events done. Now they’ll simply be able to do the events whether or not you organized the events. (you are assuming that all the other players in the map are completely useless when it comes to these events for some reason.) Just because you don’t have control of everyone doing the event doesn’t mean you cant get it done anymore.

There’s no issue here other than people not having to depend on you guys anymore. (Which to everyone else is a boon, not a curse)

So very wrong. Getting 100-150 people to guest to the same server is not where the leadership and organisation ends. Far from it. If all it took were numbers, then every server would be constantly defeating the Three-Headed Wurm. And yeah, extra people who aren’t on TS or following instructions can in fact seriously impact events in a negative manner.

The whole point was that these fights were made for the “hardcore” or at least people who wanted a challenge. Yet ANet isn’t making the system conducive to organising said challenges.

Gene Archer.8560:

Problem: Gold is essentially the only currency that matters in the game.
Problem: Not everyone can gather enough gold for the things they want.
Problem: Low drop rates and low RNG make the game feel unrewarding, leading people to rely on farms for gold, because gold can be used to bypass low drop rates and low RNG

I had to split my post, so I could respond directly to this.

1) Gold being the main currency is not a problem.
2) Everyone can gather enough Gold to get things they want. You can either put in efforts to get the Gold, or you can buy Gems and convert it. The only problem would be the players who don’t want to put in the efforts to make Gold. Vol gave some advice to help with this problem, so please read his posts.
3) Low drop rates / RNG = rarity. Rarity is not a problem. The individual player’s needs and desires are the problem. They want the best rewards here and now, but don’t understand that if you make something easily obtainable, the item is no longer rare and desired.

Red Guard or Blob Guard?

Working as intended.

Get off the wall and come open field fight

The game is slowly dying anyway…

Guilds are dying off anyways. Within the last few weeks I’ve seen many hardcore WvW guilds and commanders pack up and leave. It’s going downhill, and fast. I do not think EoTM will solve the problem, even though it was created with good intent.

I’ll wait untill the usual friday blobbing is over I think.

We decided to add to every fight this night(even tho we waited few times just because of respect to guilds on GH who probably wanted to fight on their own) since AM guilds do not respect others open-field and also added themselves everytime. Just wanted to show what happens if we start doing the same.
And nope, we didn’t run close to each other, just every orange pop on the map was like a magnet this night. You don’t see AM out of keep/towers too often so it’s some kind of Christmas for us!

I personally don’t care much for blobbing.. I only care for the massive skill lag that comes with it.. but that’s the game’s engine atm. Not that I want to encourage blobbing tho.. I’d like to see things differently but it is what it is atm.

Had some good fights when not affected by skill lag. :P

Hehe guys, this LNM guy is raid leader on ELE STAFF. I think it says enough.
How do you expect him to lead on GvG when he would be forced to take dmg because there wouldn’t be 30 melees around? mistform > dead frog.
End of story, I’m tired of those ppt servers.

Edennae.8642:

Heya,
Thank you to all the protagonists of the map GUNNAR.
Including Fury and INC!
So funny weekend!

Edennae
GM / RL LNM
Elem staff

Stream Sunday night, look At 1h01

http://www.twitch.tv/lnmtv1/b/469931135

Streaming a 50man blob is the most boring thing. It would be extremely fun to see what happens if you chose the “best” 20 of you and gvg us. I’m sure you will laugh at that possibility because “the wvw is all about the points, yo” and you will continue to do whatever you want, while i will continue to laugh at fail streams like this.

Again if some guild from this boring match up wants to step up and GvG, just drop a whisper.

Some nice fights being fought between [VoTF], [SOUL], [GoT], [INC] and [HT].
Although our numbers aren’t that many, we tried to make a stand.

Also at some points we ran past vale and saw [SOUL] fighting a big red group and no.. didn’t count.
We stopped and watched while being on top of the ‘bridge’ when another (I think) red PUG group (+/- 15) ran into that fight. [GoT] decided to jump in and give backup to [SOUL]. At that time the fight turned into a 3-way-fight which was intense, fun and long. Props for that!

After that [SOUL] opened up south outer and inner Bay with cata’s while [VoTF] was in open battle with [INC].
[GoT] kept the doors closed towards Bay so [INC] couldn’t get in to safely buff up etc.
[HT] joined in by jumping on [SOUL] (both walls where just opened) and [INC] went through watergate and roflstomped [GoT] while we tried to get onto inner walls…

Fights went on and on.. but [GoT] finally capped bay and held it for like 30 min. or so… We were undermanned and when [SOUL] went homeborder.. we were surprised that we didn’t get run over earlier?

Thanks for the fights!

@FooThaitroll, if thats your message.. why bother?

well its not hard to wipe anything with 91 man in TS but u still failed

thx abbadon <3

qweman.5298:

3rd day SPRT off-raid because of one Piken open raid can hold all 4 maps with inc 500+

A shame, i was looking forward to fighting you, although i don’t quite understand your admiration for an off-peak, map-hopping karma train.

Edit: Also, sorry to MYA for leaving you on gh border yesterday. There was no way we could have gotten a fair and good fight there. Thanks to everybody who delighted us with their presence on Abbadonns border and eb (Yes, we have the luxury of being able to almost freely swap maps in this matchup. Praised be the blow out matches and the lower tiers!)

Props to Piken Smallscale! \o/

P.s.: http://www.twitch.tv/fliyr/c/3009576 – Piken farming us all week.

Magnetron.5823:

huh? I am sorry but I see a dev playing the game as intended.

You GvG kids are way too arrogant, take your bikes and go play outside please and leave us play WvW…

That GvG Community LOL

Stop being a fanboy please, its pathetic.

What will you do when all the “GvG Kids” leave ur game and you have no one to play anymore with? Because lets be realistic, hardcore WvW guilds are the backbone of every server. They organize the community TS, raids, command Pug raids, etc. etc.

Someone made a good post in another thread and said some of us didn’t ask for or want this helping hand no matter how insignificant you think it is they’re still stats that can’t be accounted for by who ever happens to not have the orbs during the fight.

Guilds don’t just fight at windmil, we roam and we look for each other in the lakes. My guild doesn’t fight because all we want is the victory we want the challenging fights against good guilds and bigger numbers that’s where the fun in the game is for me and I’m sure some guilds share a similar mindset. I want to know I outplayed my opponent if I lose I want to know what I did wrong the bloodlust buff makes that very hard to do.

In fights where guilds make a point of players having the best gear and food it’s hard to know if we won because we played well or if it was just the bloodlust buff. Imo it cheapens a win and makes it hard to learn from a loss.

Trick.9370:

GTA 5 anyone?

No thanks. Waiting for PC version.

I love the new content, not the combat buff. Let the individual fights be determined on skill (and population). Remove the bloodlust buff and provide access to a non-combat buff such as magic find/gold earned/mercenaries/400+ crafting material nodes/etc…

Greens Daily Ritual.9025:

Anet gave you what you want, your Spvp right smack dab in the middle of WvW. I’m talking about the ruins in case you didn’t know.

to be honest, that wasn’t really what nearly anyone wanted. there wasn’t a single thread requesting them to plop sPvP with stat buffs in the middle of WvW anywhere leading up to it, and the overwhelming majority of players voted in disfavor of it in the thread about it. this isn’t limited to just GvG players either. a good number of people who play WvW as Anet intended didn’t want it either. but, Anet wanted it, so everyone is stuck dealing with it.

this isn’t something that will kill GvG only either. the ridiculously lopsided matches the seasons will bring will only be exacerbated by the ridiculously lopsided stat buffs. so it will kill WvW itself. matches will boil down to two scenarios. spawn camping, or getting spawn camped. neither is really something an entire game mode can be based around, and it’s quite obvious that people will just avoid WvW entirely at that point. sure, some may be stubborn and optimistic, and try to stick it out for a while, but eventually the boredom will overwhelm even them. the end result really is pretty obvious at this point.

Most arguments for/against bloodlust focus on GvG. I run in a WvWvW guild that can field 30+ people. Organized GvG is not our main activity. A seperate battleground for GvG won’t help us. We want to play WvWvW together in our group. Our definition of fun is roaming the battlefield, knocking on keeps, and getting into good large scale fights usually against opposing guilds(I thought that was the point of WvWvW.) We don’t want to split up to hold capture points. We don’t want a stat buff. We want fights to be fair.

Just tonight we came upon a good guild who we really respect. We would never give up the chance to fight them and many times lose. But then we saw that they had +150 stats. This ruined our enthusiasm and turned a hard fight into something nearly impossible.

When the situation changes and we have plus 100/150 it invalidates our victory. Not only do we have an unfair advantage it will be invalidated by the enemy who will undoubtedly proclaim “They only won because of bloodlust.”

Will never do GvG in sPvP – Because i want to play with my WvW build and gear.

sPvP’s rules, gear choices, and class alterations make it a completely broken option for GvGs.