Guild Wars 2

Out of 15,000 games played, you only played 4k ranked. I don’t know what you expect. Wtf were you doing in 10k + hot join games?

MasterD.4790:

Cal Cohen.3527:

Loop.8106:

Cal Cohen.3527:

Loop.8106:

Apparently placements doesnt count leavers. Had a fantastic 3v5 game from start to finish that still counted towards a loss.

The game still shows as a loss in the UI but your rating is unaffected.

I did get an extra loss on the placement UI and it did count towards the 10 games.

Right. The UI shows the game as a loss, but your rating was unaffected. Usually when a teammate leaves the match you see the 0 for your rating change after the game ends. During placements your rating isn’t visible yet so you don’t see the 0, but that same result happens.

So it doesn’t affect your rating, but it counts as a placement game? That makes no sense. You essentially lose your ability to place higher because someone left a match?

Exactly that, but devs just don’t get it…

Deathok.2914:

If you won 7 games and have 3 desertion games you’re placement games technically aren’t 7-3 but 7-0 it’s like you only had 7 placement games.

Well, your score will be 7-0, but you will also have 10 placement matches already. Therefore you are missing the chance to get 10-0.

silvermember.8941:

Aren’t you the guy who complained about hacking but had a wall hack, yourself?

What wallhack lmao. He was hacking, and was around me while his character was in base. I have no idea how it showed me his char which was in base.

Here’s one best example of how desertion in placement matches doesn’t do any good.

Let’s say Johnny got a new account and he wants to PvP. He starts placement matches with new account which obviously doesn’t have any ranking yet.

So he plays 10 matches and in all 10 he gets desertion.

10 Matches
- 0 Win
- 0 Loss
- 10 Desertion
= Rating progress??

With the fact that Johnny has no previous league ranking, he will most likely be placed in Bronze with 0 rating. Or the minimum which is set by ANet.

Why do you even count desertion matches as a loss? It is a complete nonsense, and it messes up placement games.

Someone can have 7 wins and 3 desertions, and he will lose the chance to get the placement score of 10:0 just because he already played 10 games (from which 3 ended with desortion).

Please give me your explanation of that.

Zelulose.8695:

Engi does have a long delay on leaving stealth that is misleading. I am not sure if it is intentional. They may get in 4+ attacks before they are actually visible.

No man it was hack. I posted a topic and everyone saw it and agreed with me. However , the topic was deleted by an admin, and they warned me that I shouldn’t be posting that kind of stuff on forums…

Dicey Garlics.3918:

are u sure? it looks like aoe damage on the cap point where u are at… it looks like some turrets or so? are u sure?

I’ll post a topic with more pics now

Dicey Garlics.3918:

It would be nice to have a countdown timer in the pvp page… so we know when exactly it will start and when exactly it will finish

Dude what do you mean? That’s way too much work for them…

Guys please read 1st post before replying with ‘balancing’ issues. Just like Elegie.3620 said, you would choose your opponents and rules. For instance, if you are playing Elementalist, nobody would force you to duel a Mesmer. You would simply uncheck Mesmer from the filters and proceed.

I really don’t know why you gotta keep complaining about the balance. Simple 1v1 Dueling with filters (without ranking leaderboards, or some separate leaderboard), would only bring good to the game:

For instance, you would be able to play against the same classes and perfect your build, and on top of that you earn some extra gold.

zinkz.7045:

masterfan.8375:

There will be no balancing issues, since everyone can choose the class they want to duel.

There would be massive balancing issues, ignoring them by only playing classes that are strong and avoiding weak classes doesn’t change that.

You don’t get it I see. Nobody would force you to duel classes you find “counterish”, therefore the balancing issue is ‘fixed’

Elegie.3620:

I would love it. You could make it a learning experience as well as a challenging one. Plus adding a spectating / betting feature on top of it could make for a pretty good experience.

IMHO ANet really needs to reflect on their approach to PVP, their stern attitude truly cripples their options. 1v1s, 2v2s, 3v3s, 10v10v10s, all the usual PVP modes… The fighting gameplay in GW2 is so great, yet they do not manage to make it shine or expand it, because of their concerns about balance or matchmaking or whatever…

Just offer game modes already, don’t think too much about it, and make sure to provide proper and easy access to players (unlike what you did with Courtyard and 2v2s, which cannot be played even by a willing player). You’ll draw so many players in the end, it’ll be easy to collect data and adjust accordingly, it’ll create full a positive feedback loop… unlike the current state of PvP.

Please! Or at least talk to us. Sure, the forums are full of immature and angry people, but there are also players willing to listen and provide feedback… and maybe the problems you think you have… are not really problems (no offense).

I agree, but too bad they only respond when someone is bugged. I really don’t know why they don’t discuss with us on what we would like to have in the game… I mean they depend on us, so they should behave like it.

I really don’t know why you can’t bring dueling even after 5 since release. It could be so simple, yet fun…

Make some interface where two players can set some rules (Best of 3, etc.), put the gold stake, and when both are ready, teleport them to some arena.

There will be no balancing issues, since everyone can choose the class they want to duel.

If that’s too hard to you, make dueling possible only with same classes.

Seriously ANet, give us some new PvP content besides that 5v5. This idea would take you few days to implement, and I’m sure that everyone would like to see it…

The best way to counter some class is to actually play it and get to know it.

If it says that “Season is currently ending” it doesn’t mean it ended. Look at the photo. Ranked is still playable, but no ranking from it. Shouldn’t the season end somewhere around 6PM ? Or at least when the new daily chests come (which is UTC+02:00) for me.

The logical thing would be to end the season when daily resets. Not one hour before it. Well played…

And please give me your explanation of why my last match didn’t give me any rating?
Thanks.

Placement matches are a joke. Let me tell you why. There are a lot of players who have never played PVP before, or have little experience with it. They know nothing about rotating… Here comes the best part….. Some of them will get carried in those placement matches, therefore they will most likely be placed in Gold or even Platinum division. And that creates the problem for you, who deserves to be in that division or even better. Those ‘carried placement’ players will get in your team, and you will lose because of them. And you can never progress any drastically because of that….. How can someone with no PVP experience be placed in the same division with people over 5000 games. Tell me Anet, explain me your awesome PVP improvement.

Yep this is totally true. Those in legy are just going up now, and others are frozen in current divisions. And those players will bash you and defend the current system that it is ok. How about I give you my account and try playing few matches in gold division? See what’s gonna happen…..Your skill doesn’t mean anything there. It is pure luck. You either gonna get the team that is at your skill level, or totally oposite. W/L W/L W/L W/L ….

Evan Lesh.3295:

DeWolfe.2174:

Just had to log out of this. The first 10 games were fun and I went 7/3. Then once the rating hit it was defeat, defeat, win, defeat, defeat. Just like previous seasons, there’s this “screw you wall” where the game just starts putting you into impossible matches. Absolutely no fun to have such poor quality match’s either.

Should have tanked the first 10 games and probably would have had a much more fun season. Now I’m locked into this for months.

The longer the season runs, the better matches will gets. It hasn’t even been 12 hours yet. There are a lot of people that will be going through placement matches for a while, and they don’t have a fully accurate rating yet. This ‘wall’ could just be players getting home from work and school and playing PvP for the first time today.

‘Playing PVP for the first time today’? Are you serious? Those players should start from bronze rating no matter the results in those first 10 matches. How can someone with 5k games + be put with the same players who pvp fist time. Please explain it to me.

Cynz.9437:

Shaogin.2679:

JTGuevara.9018:

Zintrothen.1056:

Yeah, let’s go back to the horrible way things were before, with premades fighting pugs. Those were great days! MAKE GUILD WARS 2 GREAT AGAIN!

Or you can adapt and encourage Anet to keep this system and introduce a 3+ man queue. That’ll work well too once these great changes bring back more players.

Precisely! Well said.

Not well said at all. Are you guys reading? When we talk about wanting a team queue, we want a 5v5 only Team Queue, separate from Solo/Duo Queue. Nobody gives a kitten about stomping pug groups, so stop bringing that up already when it has nothing to do with the goals of this thread.

Would it share leaderboard with soloq?

No, It would be separate leaderboard for soloq and team q

Shaogin.2679:

JTGuevara.9018:

Zintrothen.1056:

Yeah, let’s go back to the horrible way things were before, with premades fighting pugs. Those were great days! MAKE GUILD WARS 2 GREAT AGAIN!

Or you can adapt and encourage Anet to keep this system and introduce a 3+ man queue. That’ll work well too once these great changes bring back more players.

Precisely! Well said.

Not well said at all. Are you guys reading? When we talk about wanting a team queue, we want a 5v5 only Team Queue, separate from Solo/Duo Queue. Nobody gives a kitten about stomping pug groups, so stop bringing that up already when it has nothing to do with the goals of this thread.

Exactly that. This is a pure nonsense playing with 3 randoms who can’t even read the chat. Not to mention their gameplay…

Ithilwen.1529:

That was the way it was before. The queues were combined to lower queue time. I suspect it was also an attempt to force people to team.

Whatever the case, combining the queues has been negative for PvP.

Yes I remember that that was the case. And it was pretty decent back then. It should be brought back to life.

Well yea, we definitely got an agreement that there should be Team Queue and Solo/Duo queue separated. Would be cool if they brought that in next season

Ithilwen.1529:

Allowing 5 man exploit squads, err I mean “organized teams,” would make things that much worse.

Learn to play on your own. This season is a test of individual skills.

Test of individual skills? You forgot that this is team play (5v5). Your individual skills can be out of this planet and it wont even matter…

Lets all agree that 2 man queue is the worst decision ever. Its pure gamble, and your skill doesn’t mean ANYTHING if you get complete randoms in the team who only got 500 -1000 games. What’s point of this? I don’t see any competition in that. No pre mades, no voice chat, no nothing. Where’s fun in that? You are destined to gamble every single game. You don’t have to remove Solo/Duo queue completely, just separate it from the Team Queue. Problem solved, Team Queue its own ranking board, Solo/Duo queue has its own…

This is terrible start. So many noobs that are playing pvp for the first time.

Lol I guess you just created a thief and got ganked… Bow is mostly used for mobility

Yet you continue to play…

Can somebody explain it to me how is this supposed to work exactly?

I have 195 normal participation and I also have ‘Outnumbered’ buff which should give me additional 50% of participation. And here comes the problem, that additional 50% is non existent.

My reward track XP was 204 and after 5 minutes it turned to 399 (which is that 195 of normal participation). So my question is does that bonus 50% even work? By any logic I should get additional 50% of 195, which is 97.5. So in total it should be 292.5.

Thanks

Yep finally someone who agrees. Well it is what it is, I guess I’ll finish the crafting one day, even though it will cost me 200 – 300 gold more than on TP

masterfan.8375:

Linken.6345:

masterfan.8375:

StonePower.8321:

Checked on gw2efficiency and even this is what shows up for spark (without using own mats) :

- 574g —> buy everything through demands even daily gated mats.
- 451 --> same except you use your own gated mats (mithrillium, elonian leather, etc).

This is with buying everything, you should have some mats laying around that can bring the cost to less than 400g easily.

Of course the price will be close to pre if you decide to straigth up buy your mats from the tp instead of filling buy orders.

In this case it’s not pre crafting who is the joke…

This is totally wrong. You are basically forced to buy Deldrimor Steel Ingots. 85 of them costs 522. Don’t tell me you will craft them. It will take you 85 days to do so. And then again 10 Elonian is 106 gold. I checked prices in game. I don’t know where you got your prices from.

EDIT: I checked on gw2efficiency and the price there is without Deldrimore steel ingots. Therefore its 451 gold + 10 elonian + 85 deldrimore. You do the math….

What you havent been playing the game at all?
I got 77 deldrimore, 92 lumps of mithirlium so could craft those easily if i ordered the materials from tp.
57 elonian with 100 spools
27 spirit wood with 125 elder spirit
Only 48 damask and 67 silk since i cant be bothered to farm 100 silk bolts everyday.

Its suposed to be a long term goal not buy everything from tp and done…. if you wanted that just buy the kitten precursor.

92 lumps of mithrilium would take 92 days to make… And it’s only ONE part of crafting the pre cursor. If you farm couple of hours daily, in 92 days you would make way more than 600 gold in order to buy it from the trading post. And me personally, I played PVP most of my time and didn’t focus on those boring daily crafts. What I’m trying to say is that the system for pre cursor crafting as it is, is broken

But then again, if you sold those items and buy the pre cursor from the TP, you would still be in +

Linken.6345:

masterfan.8375:

StonePower.8321:

Checked on gw2efficiency and even this is what shows up for spark (without using own mats) :

- 574g —> buy everything through demands even daily gated mats.
- 451 --> same except you use your own gated mats (mithrillium, elonian leather, etc).

This is with buying everything, you should have some mats laying around that can bring the cost to less than 400g easily.

Of course the price will be close to pre if you decide to straigth up buy your mats from the tp instead of filling buy orders.

In this case it’s not pre crafting who is the joke…

This is totally wrong. You are basically forced to buy Deldrimor Steel Ingots. 85 of them costs 522. Don’t tell me you will craft them. It will take you 85 days to do so. And then again 10 Elonian is 106 gold. I checked prices in game. I don’t know where you got your prices from.

EDIT: I checked on gw2efficiency and the price there is without Deldrimore steel ingots. Therefore its 451 gold + 10 elonian + 85 deldrimore. You do the math….

What you havent been playing the game at all?
I got 77 deldrimore, 92 lumps of mithirlium so could craft those easily if i ordered the materials from tp.
57 elonian with 100 spools
27 spirit wood with 125 elder spirit
Only 48 damask and 67 silk since i cant be bothered to farm 100 silk bolts everyday.

Its suposed to be a long term goal not buy everything from tp and done…. if you wanted that just buy the kitten precursor.

92 lumps of mithrilium would take 92 days to make… And it’s only ONE part of crafting the pre cursor. If you farm couple of hours daily, in 92 days you would make way more than 600 gold in order to buy it from the trading post. And me personally, I played PVP most of my time and didn’t focus on those boring daily crafts. What I’m trying to say is that the system for pre cursor crafting as it is, is broken

StonePower.8321:

Checked on gw2efficiency and even this is what shows up for spark (without using own mats) :

- 574g —> buy everything through demands even daily gated mats.
- 451 --> same except you use your own gated mats (mithrillium, elonian leather, etc).

This is with buying everything, you should have some mats laying around that can bring the cost to less than 400g easily.

Of course the price will be close to pre if you decide to straigth up buy your mats from the tp instead of filling buy orders.

In this case it’s not pre crafting who is the joke…

This is totally wrong. You are basically forced to buy Deldrimor Steel Ingots. 85 of them costs 522. Don’t tell me you will craft them. It will take you 85 days to do so. And then again 10 Elonian is 106 gold. I checked prices in game. I don’t know where you got your prices from.

EDIT: I checked on gw2efficiency and the price there is without Deldrimore steel ingots. Therefore its 451 gold + 10 elonian + 85 deldrimore. You do the math….

Well yea, so it’s concluded that crafting through achievements is useless. Waste of money and time. I feel sorry for people who will fall in the same trap like me, thinking that it would’ve been cheaper.

I miss calculated something. It should be 100 Gold more expensive than on TP. But hey I don’t see the point of having those achievements then. You spend your time on those boring crafts, and achievements all over the map for what? To pay 100 gold more and spend hours of crafting and doing achs?… Seriously..

So I finally bought HoT and I was all hyped up that I would finally be able to craft my first pre cursor. I finished Incinerator I: The Experimental Dagger, and moved on to the second part Incinerator II. But on the half way of the achievement I said wait a minute, this costs waaay too many gold. So I did the math:

Spark on the Trading Post = 669 Gold

Achievement Crafting = 671 Gold

Incienator Vol 1 = 5 Gold
100 Memorys of Battle = 6 Gold
100 Shards of Glory = 1 Gold
10 Globs of Ectoplasm = 3 Gold
10 Elonian Leather Squares = 108 Gold
85 Deldrimor Steel Ingots = 512 Gold
25 Stabilizing Matrix = 10 Gold
100 Karka Shells = 7 Gold
Steel, Iron,Orichalcum.. Blades = 10 Gold
Steel, Iron,Orichalcum.. Hilts = 3 Gold
50 Elderwood Plank = 3 Gold
Gemstone + Lodestones = 3 Gold

After all the time and gold spent only to find out this!? Seriously I want my gold back, If I knew that pre cursor would cost me the same amount of gold like on TP, I wouldn’t even started crafting it. Opinions?

I totally agree with what you said about rewards. Same o’l thing. Why don’t you give us PVP players a chance to get the legendaries? Why would I need an ascended gear for? At least make some vendor with account bound skins or something. It was really good back in the time when there was PVP Wardrobe and ranks actually took some time to get. You really ruined everything with the update where you lowered xp requierd for ranks.

I have tons of them, and I’m pretty sure that majority of players does. They just stand in my inventory and keep stacking and stacking… Why don’t you make them useful? For instance, one consumption of Tome of Knowledge could grant you 50 000 – 100 000 Mastery xp (Both central tyria and HOT). Let’s be honest… HoT mastery XP is pure grind and farm. I don’t like doing stories because there’s so much content that I can’t skip. Therefore the only proper way for me to get the mastery XP would be through use of Tomes of Knowledge. What do you think about this suggestion?

Shards are broken… 33 copper each. If they added anything useful that we can buy with them, it would affect the current economy. They should’ve made them account-bound at first….

Seriously… Who cares about the score anyway? There are much more bigger issues in PVP than scoreboard lol

You shouldn’t be playing Pvp at all. It’s so broken that no words can explain it.

I was sceptic about signing up but then I read this

No Revenants nor Heart of Thorns related skills, traits, or abilities

Awesome idea!
Btw is this related to NA or EU?

That mesmer meta is soooo bad. Block inv block inv.. And then spamming illusions and shattering them on you with speed effect. Come on ANet, you kittened up everything.

kdaddy.5431:

Im wondering if Anet should do this?
A big reason why the people i played with left GW2 was the big patch some time ago where Anet made leveling easier for casuals. Not only did Anet made getting to level 80 in PvP easy now, it seems alot of people just go to daily PvP rooms and collect rewards.

That right there is what ruined the PVP. It was so good before that patch.

Dude… Presenting ideas to ANet is useless… They don’t care

I know you don’t give a single **ck about PVP but come on ANet, how hard is it to fix that? Can’t you implement some feature that after someone disconnects players get to vote if they want to get the replacement or no? How hard could that be cmon… But ye…You are too busy creating the pvp maps and modes that nobody likes. Fix the basics first please.

Ugh, there’s so much more to worry about in PVP than class finishers…

What do you mean what? Stack 10 stacks of bleed in 2 seconds… Im joking. That condi build is so kittening boring. I used to play rifle war ever since few months ago and it is still viable. It’s really fun to play too. If you get targeted just use your great sword to run away. That way you can survive for pretty long time

And how exactly is stronghold easy boost to legendary?

If they re-release that then they should re-rel halloween skins( shield and etc)…

That was exactly what I was going to write about. They did nothing to the core game of PVP! Courtyard is really lame, everyone running around and zerging without head. Stronghold could be on a right track if everyone knew what to do. (it’ll take some time). New PVP skins are must! They should even add legendaries specially designed for PVP. And when it comes to Unranked / Ranked, can any of you devs tell me the difference? Besides you get different maps on unranked, there’s no any difference! Your leaderboards is dead for months! I know that you are working on new expansion in which I don’t have big expections, but you do have to realize that that can’t be the reason to avoid working the current state of game. Please spend some time improving PVP! Go through the forums and read what players want. It’s been almost 3 years since GW2 was released and we still don’t have 1v1 or 2v2 games. Pathethic.

Burn spam is really OP. You don’t even have time to heal and u already lose 50% of your hp… Start adding more stuff to PVP. Increase ranks, add more titles, make better rewards. It’s impossible to create legendary out of pvp gold and mats. For real, start making some changes in PVP. It’s not that hard

Bumping the post. 30 active members and counting. We started doing some WvW runs too. Join us!