Guild Wars 2

We need to makes this thread bigger, its been 10 days since soloQ release and we know about this stupid matchmaking behavior since day 2.

Its no way that we can have balanced match’s when the system groups up 5x top r25 against 5x r200+ just because there isnt population enough to fill like 2 teams of top25.

This needs to be hotfixed asap, make the matchmaking an average of the leaderboards ranks on each team so there is not only fair match but fair ranks.
Has it is now, top ranks doesn’t even need to drop a sweat to win games and keep their position since the teams are so unbalanced in terms of skill distribution.

This is even more exarcebated out of primetime, high ranks are just farming all day, just like premades against pugs on team arena before.

But watching the lack of feedback from arenanet on this forum and on this topic in particular, I think we will either need to live with it or boycott the system.

Yaro.3251:

Yeah, right.
I’ll only say this: Lag plays for more organized groups no matter the numbers.

What?? are you really saying that a situation that you can’t micro your class at all, all you can do is move and hit auto attack, in this kind of situation, that the more organized guild have the upper hand against 4x their numbers?

Really?

Sorry, but a competent guild doesnt want a lag fight, because its not only unsatisfying, but because its not advantageous for them to fight in an environment where they can’t perform to the maximum of their abilities, therefore no lag doesn’t favor competent groups, its completely the other way around.

Pandabro.8743:

DXIEdge.2789:

Come on people. You ask for diversity and then you scream when something different appears and your like “give me forest! Give me Foefire!”

Give me a break

This.

I think it’s awesome that people are already discussing different builds specifically for this map.

Offcourse, they just gave the ability for CC to insta kill people. Yeah, great mechanic, insta gib CC’s.
Whoever is playing that map without abusing this new CC ability to instakill and win matches, is doing it wrong and thats why the map is not nearly any decent or balanced.
(It will be worse in the coming days, when everyone has modified their builds for this)

Not even talking about the Cannon, oh a treb that you cant evade, so original we dont have a map with that feature yet.

Really? Really? Reeeaaaaally?

Tbh, I can’t comprehend what ANET is thinking.

We are almost 1 year into the game and instead of developing competitive maps to add to the short and repetitive (because its short) map pool. (for tournaments)
They keep wasting develop time on this troll maps that have very little sense in a balance perspective and that will hardly haaaardly (unless someone is insane) be added to tournament map pool.

Don’t waste your dear spvp resources, 1-year long making useless maps, either make decent ones or bring the tools for the mod community to develop them, I bet they would make a better job to bring better and fresh maps to the scene with no cost to ANET.

I’m hugely dissapointed by the continued failure to improve the map pool.

PS: They could had aswell released this map as a pve mini-game feature where you get 3 locked skills being fear\knockback\launch. It would be the same thing but balanced.

Cipaku.9675:

murtas.2417:

Omg, so many clueless people posting in this thread.
So many people pretending they know VoTF.
So many people pretending to know the history of SFR and its up’s and down’s.

Do everyone a favor, don’t post.
Starting by you Burebista, err Cipaku, I was wondering where all that hate came from.

Oh and you know more about SFR than me i supose dear Murtas? or you decided that SFR died when you decided to move? Still shocked when i found out you bailed. No troll. perhaps you should go on pevepe.net on our match-up history and read some of your own posts there might refresh your memory and your love for SFR. My only hope is that you dont start arguing with your past self:)

“So you havent been on SFR for 1month+ now but you know that " But the old “pirate” days of SFR are gone"

The old pirate days were already gone when we left in January, if you know how to count its not 1month, it was already a kitten of bandwagoning cause we were winning T1 with PRX and our Russians Overlords, the queue’s were insane and the quality of play insanely bad.
But how would you know it?, you weren’t even playing back then… for how long?

“R.I.P. Futilez, Nastrandir,uPT etc:))

Fair warning to IRON they may seem like they wanna train you but theyre actually on the look for good players to poach:) "

Again you talk out of your kitten I can’t let this pass aswell, you should be ashamed to accuse such a proven guild along the years by saying that, you would aswell know that its the refered guilds that approached VoTF and not the other way around, it was in my case and i’m 100% sure the others aswell, VoTF leadership accepted or not the proposals that are made in terms of small “merges”.
My only explanation by all that hate is you being left out cause you weren’t playing at all at the time?

“The people that left with VoTF to NA but when they heard you plan to go back to EU but on Deso server they quit the guild and transfered to SFR? "

1 people left VoTF when they found out we decided to return to EU and would fight against SFR, it was General Kreator, which wasn’t even active back then.

“Then crit food buff nerfed and VoTF wont GvG until they discover new builds.”

VoTF never turned down a GvG invitation, so again you are talking crap without knowing.
VoTF have aswell adapted to the food nerf in matter of days once the patch was live, it was also one of the fastest guilds doing so with good results. Again more crap.

And then you are surprised I ask you to stop posting, you know your post, are all but false, and then you pick me for bailing on SFR when I didn’t do so.

I for sure loved the people that made the bulk of SFR history, i’m proud of the little I achieved and i’m proud of the people I fought with, I cherish those memories, but I don’t care about a server name, what made the server was the people and most of them are not there anymore, some new one’s came (it was that way since launch) and kept the SFR rolling forward and I respect them.

“Oh and you know more about SFR than me i supose dear Murtas?”

Up until that point, sure I did.

You sir, did turn a great forum warrior. :clap: :clap:
I’m out.

Omg, so many clueless people posting in this thread.
So many people pretending they know VoTF.
So many people pretending to know the history of SFR and its up’s and down’s.

Do everyone a favor, don’t post.
Starting by you Burebista, err Cipaku, I was wondering where all that hate came from.

Lokuspause.6093:

Much respect to VotF. Havent seen such a good guild yet. Must be hard to wipe ECL with at least twice as many people spamming button 1.
First and last post in this thread, because its complete bullkitten.

Thank you for you badges though, how would we pay the 40 mercenaries that we contracted to run with our 300 man blob to help fight ECL, just to catch your run away its needed 6 votf per 1 ECL.
We clearly suck with this efficiency.

This was a terrible idea.
Seriously think before adding things this, please give us a turn off option and disable it until it gets implemented.

This is absurd.

Sird.4536:

How can anyone play like this. Its zone v zone v zone. If you try and go around with your guild you run into a full blob. Hope this settles down fast.

Agree, everyone is just afraid of running alone it seems.

VoTF kinda did try and we did good to some extent but when it is 30vs100vs100 its gets a bit absurd.
But then the whole zone sticked to us and it was just 3 full zone fights, and then people complain about skill lag in this forums… no wonder.

PS: If this is what people will be doing to farm those ranks, then I think i’m going to play less wvw and not more.

Nymph of Meliai.6739:

Teel.9036:

Aneu.1748:

Nymph of Meliai.6739:

Last night VoTF got the better of us (RiOT) several times. It was a bit of back and forth though, VoTF took us from the rear each time and Deso numbers were much larger than RiOT numbers… but still a lot of fun. Makes up for the time we wiped VoTF 6 times in their garrison a couple of weeks ago. Swings and roundabouts. As long as we are all having fun, dieing is preferrable to running.

6 times? We havent wiped 6 times in total per single night that I can actually recall, let alone against RIOT. Unless you are talking about single people or groups of 5 running around?

Maybe it’s the time when SFR had their whole BL in our garrison at reset and eventually after like 30+ minutes of fighting they pulled off. I remember our commander never died though and we never wiped but we had on average 5 people running back to our group during the fight. Was a fun fight but shame about the lag.

It wasn’t the entire BL… just RiOT and a few friends… about 20-25 of us. Was one of the best fights I have had in WvW… we had to pull out to defend Hills when Viz attacked it with golems. We killed a lot of you. Not quite as good as when we did the same to Viz the previous night… we had to fight wave after wave for a good 30-40mins. Had to pop a merchant because there were too many bags on the ground. I think we lost more than half of the bags. But that fight for deso garri was definitely amongst the best we had had.

Tell me more about this, seems a good script, I could get you a couple producers for a youtube Film.

Raniri.6178:

Z A P P I N G ____________ T I M E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF_3_q-6Qag

Awesome video, gz!

ethier.3417:

Teel.9036:

Yaro.3251:

ethier.3417:

Thanks for the gvg BuLl friday evening.
I know you felt as though the pugs were joining in, But they weren’t and even desolation guilds who were watching agree’d with us, It was however very messy, With pugs from both servers attacking the Spider Queen Trait point. And a certain SFR player being a pain.

I felt though our gvg fights were even and we deserved to win 3-0, Respect to ex Kaz guild though, You guys are still impressive and well organised even with the guild drama that happened.

I hope we can do it again sometime in a more quiet place with no pugs about.

Thanks for the fights.

I wasn’t there but this GvG produced quite a buzz in the community. I was suggesting BULL guys to publish their video and would recommend you (or any spectators who were recording) to do the same so there’s no misunderstanding and no room for rumors. As it stands atm, I believe many Deso guilds will be reluctant in arranging more GvGs with you.

P.S. This post is personal opinion and doesn’t necessary reflect any of Deso guilds official stance. Including GH, since I’m not an officer.

In the video on SFR side you can clearly see 2 VOLT members even finishing Bull members in downed state in the middle of the battle, and Riot had a member there as well harassing us spectators and from what I heard from Bull attacking them in their fight with VcY as well.

Deso had 3+ individuals as well involved in the fighting. One person from a guild with the abbreviation [KG], another from a guild called Moonlight Shadow and yet another from [LoP] (Lions of Persia?) All these 3 people were either downed or finished in the battle(s) by Bull.

^ Very Messy indeed.

Like i said, I only can say what i saw. I spoke with a few VoTF guys who were watching and they said this didn’t happen i didn’t see this as i was too busy focusing on killing bull.

In the end it’s pugs who are getting in the way from a good GvG.

P.S It wasn’t a Riot guy it was RIP guild.

I was the first VoTF that arrived there and to be fair with the new culling system, there is no way for that fight to be fair.

SFR had 50 viewers minimum and Deso had less than 10, if you can imagine the troubles that would give the enemy team, its unfair even before it starts.

If people want to watch do it through the available streams if not wait for the videos.
Otherwise it is up to the guilds involved to arrenge a calm and without spectators place, if they cannot find it, ask their respective communities to leave the field.

There is no way to render the enemy team when u already have 50 enemy spectators culled when the other side doesn’t have the same issue.
I kinda don’t blame BuLL if spectators were even trolling into the fights.

I also have the same problem, fix it asap.

Scryar.2954:

Logged out at about 6.00pm on the 31st. SFR was about hundred points behind Elona and about 3k points behind Vizunah. After celebrating the new year, sleeping until 4.30pm and logging in a hour later SRF was 16k points in front. So gz to RUIN 2.0(PRX) for deciding this matchup while the german and french were celebrating. 24 own us servers, but still prefer to kitten up the european ladder. gj

Fact is, we just brought our A game again and to repeat history itself, Vizunah couldn’t handle it.
Or should I remember Vizunah recover almost 50k points during nighttime in our first match?

Again, sweet sweet tears, just puts a smile on my face.

What won us this week again was our resiliance, we broke VZ morale, try harder next week, until then you can keep crying since VZ seems unable to play.

Oh my god, so many guys getting baited by such a bad troll.

Qwixx, I’m not impressed, you need a couple more years training in other specific forums to be a good forum troll.

I can’t even believe so many SFR taking the bait, cut the slack guys, you guys suck at forums, just play the game. :p

We forced some sleep on our frenchie buddies, we were worried about your health, so we stayed awake to make sure you are taking your medicine pills.

Sweet dreams,
SFR Community.

Its really funny that VZ and now ER are claiming the rightfull owners of Nightime, and cry about americans when PRX are fighting on 1:4 odds in terms of numbers during the night.

Ah may I also say the match would be closer if VZ and ER actually attacked each other positions, have you guys decided on who is going to be 1st already? Or you will attack each other on friday to settle that? :p

I must say that this is the most epic Friday I have witnesses since launch.

SFR jumped for the 2nd time in the afternoon to 1st place on Overall Points, 40min ago.
http://i.imgur.com/gcYkm.jpg

Mad props for Vizunah Square to this huge comeback to win T1 once again.

Despite all the things some VZ players did overnight to disrupt SFR.

I hugely respect what VZ accomplished since monday.
Don’t expect us to go away anytime soon too, lets rumble.

MoonSpell.4512:

@ the others that qq about culling ; maybe you stop zerging at 50 and talk about not seeing the ennemy.

I can clearly say with 100% certain that culling is not equal to everyone.
I can prove it with 2 guys recording the same fight.

Your own PC configuration, hardware, bandwitch and ingame settings. All play a big factor in culling, which just means it isn’t everything server-side.

Thats why probably the RG videos have so few culling, the ones recording surely have good configs and I don’t know, but they probably also do some sort of stalling before engaging.

tita.6358:

murtas.2417:

Kayato.9178:

Aksovar.7321:

Kayato.9178:

I hope seaferest not going as Desolation when the Americans will leave their server. Americans will soon get tired of beating the wood.

I truely doubt that gaining / losing american guilds makes the difference.

Desolation said the same thing. We will see, but what we mainly see during night is full zerg of Armerican

The difference is, PRX didnt tank a falling server and put it back on T1 by themselves.
Actually it was set in stone that we would go to T1 sooner or later, after 2 crushing victories in T2.
We don’t rely on PRX.

On the other hand they will have surely a huge impact in our server performance, inregards to covering our off-time aswell providing more quality and numbers.

If they will be a huge player on SFR? Sure, they would be anywhere they would go.
If they are the solo reason why we have 16k+ in the first 12h of the match? Hell no, not even close.

You are just trying to descredit our community effort and the guilds that have always fought night after night without caring about the overall score, being nightcapped day after day without jumping ship ever.
The winning trail is on our side now, we are grabbing it and not letting go.

blablabla we already know the song new T1 guy. we got it from Deso and Blacktide with Ruin and Xaoc.

yes PRX is carrying you.
VS has a 18/24h coverage. PRX raiding time is exactly the 6 hours we have everyone sleeping 0h00 – 6h00
be ready to get seriously bored PRX: you won’t have any opponents in these hours we won’t do it this time; We prefer to sleep.

I hope you like doors and Quaggans
you are warned: “Operation Boredom” launched.

LOL to VZ claiming they have no 00-06 coverage.
Maybe your strat this week is to call your nightforce to sleep so you win by boring your enemies. Typical blueball EVE strategy.

Should I be impressed?

Kayato.9178:

Aksovar.7321:

Kayato.9178:

I hope seaferest not going as Desolation when the Americans will leave their server. Americans will soon get tired of beating the wood.

I truely doubt that gaining / losing american guilds makes the difference.

Desolation said the same thing. We will see, but what we mainly see during night is full zerg of Armerican

The difference is, PRX didnt tank a falling server and put it back on T1 by themselves.
Actually it was set in stone that we would go to T1 sooner or later, after 2 crushing victories in T2.
We don’t rely on PRX.

On the other hand they will have surely a huge impact in our server performance, inregards to covering our off-time aswell providing more quality and numbers.

If they will be a huge player on SFR? Sure, they would be anywhere they would go.
If they are the solo reason why we have 16k+ in the first 12h of the match? Hell no, not even close.

You are just trying to descredit our community effort and the guilds that have always fought night after night without caring about the overall score, being nightcapped day after day without jumping ship ever.
The winning trail is on our side now, we are grabbing it and not letting go.

And we were the ones to push you back to T3 (2 weeks ago) without the same Oversea Guild, so I was just claiming that our current position isn’t because of PRX, like you lot were trying to sell.

Surely, they will be a huge asset to have in T1.

We didn’t have any Oversea’s guild to push SFR further, since we are in the same place as last 2 weeks, so i’m missing your point.

I want to give shoutouts to KAZ and MMO from Baruch and NI from Elona for the fights today.

I notice VERY GOOD improvements on the enemy department, I can clearly insta-load whatever those cap they are running for culling enemies, imo it is a huge improvement in that department.
We still can’t load them all I know, but now atleast I don’t have to wait 30 secs to start to see anything.

BUT, the allies culling needs improvement, its a top priority to be able to SEE GUILDIES, otherwise there is no tactic advantage to raid with your guild, when the commanders can’t… well… command, because we can’t access and evaluate our position, our guild numbers, if guildies are stretching, etc.
We can’t give calls mid fight, it just makes no sense.

So, change priority to Party=Guild>Enemies>Allies, and I think you are better than before.

IF your guild raid is higher than the culling cap, then it will just be as before, but it would be a huge improvement to guild raids lesser than 25.

I dont see anyone from SFR saying you guys have a night crew, Offski.

And what I meant about RUIN is still true, they pushed you up, they made alot people to transfer on the bandwagon but and you lost some now for sure.

But I still think you guys are in a better position atm and the T2 is a proof of that in comparation to the downfall you guys where in when they arrived.

All in all, you guys benefitted from RUIN and lost some of it when they left and losses started, nothing unexpected I guess.
Still mad props for managing it, but all the other’s former T2 forces lost forces too, only SFR is stronger but we weren’t a regular T2 to start with, neither was BB.

I’m actually dissappointed in this match to be already over before sunday.

Has someone previously said we have clear population advantage so far. There is no doubt.

No point in discussing skills when we have this much manpower.
I can’t wait to get some kitten kicked at T1 so we can lose some queue time.

The problem is that if T1 is too heavy for us and T2 too easy we are in v. bad spot for long term health.

Its sad that Elona lost so much pop over the last months, otherwise I’m pretty sure they would give us one hell of a ride at contest our current n.4, but we gained alot of pop and they lost it.
And Deso, well, they went full circle on pop, only because RUIN did create a bandwagon effect, otherwise Deso wouldn’t have recovered this fast if at all. (IE: Look at FSP.)

I don’t know what the future reserve in regards to WvW, but coverage and pop was always the winning factor and myself WvW since 1st day of SFR I have seen everything from fighting 1day matches to 24/7 servers and our performance through it all, guilds coming and guilds dying of inactivity.

My expectations of strategy long siege’s or deep tactics are long gone, all thats is left for me at WvW is the open field fights, the score is just an extra.

And its a bit sad seeing that alot of servers are losing pop as we did in the past as and as a medium Server we were the first ones to notice it, the factor is we attracted alot of guilds with our resiliance and performance and recovered those numbers along the way, while others servers started to feel it alot after cause they had a bigger queue buffer, but are losing it for some time now, more each week by week, I hope Anet brings something more to WvW in the near future so maybe that trend stops.

Hope you guys still bring some fun for the rest of the matchup and i’m sure the fun motivated ones will.

Oh sorry Offski, alot of times the zerg word is mis-used and this one was one of them kinda going with the habit. (but you are right, it was a compliment since few guilds can bring those numbers on any EU server)

But I call everyone zergs when I cant load because of culling, I couldnt access your numbers with precision, although it was atleast between 40~60 or even more.

Didnt stay longer cause I couldnt, but after the first wipe that IRON got at hills, you guys pretty much were on the dealing end afterwards.

I’m pretty sure we will face more during the week.

wow, how any random topic leads to a flame war.

This is what it is, random topic.
Seafarer’s Rest doesnt ask for anything, the server doesnt actively recruit since like1st month of game.

Every supposed recruitment topic is not official and therefore its not our opinion.
All the guilds that “reinforced” us were not asked to come, we are just an open community that helps everyone to integrate themselves if they wish to play with us.

SFR don’t recruit, SFR don’t ask, people just like our attitude and seek to play with us.

And our general consensus is that we don’t care enough to alarmclock, we will just bash our heads into reinforced doors much happier than to kitten our sleep schedules.
Reset is the only exception.

Lol at Seafarers Rest being a super server, we are super just not super server! :p

Nice comeback from IRON, their zerg was impressive in numbers on SFR Border on Reset.
Its a nice compliment to see the strongest Deso guild focusing on us.

GF.

Jude Oscure.4082:

Just want to show my respect to MNSG guild, I always appreciate people that do not give it up.
You really make a good job yesterday night.
/respect

All this weeks against Riverside, all the Riverside zergs my Guild as been running into, surely MNSG guild group is the only one worth remembering.

The only ones to give some excitment to bring our best,
Cheers from uPT too.

Props to DTK too, still running out there and good informative post Kambros, it may enlighten the little people kitten forums.

So what about all that smack talk that you organized a 30man+ nightcrew to fight back.
And actually did, since you actually surpassed Kodash in the last 3 days of T4 matchup.

Now its about transfer again? Atleast badmouth the shores carebears this time.
Huge dissapointment since I hoped the staying FSP parties would give us a fight, lets see monday if anything changes.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Blacktide/first#post660326

Well, it sure was easy to predict Blacktide victory, the only ones who didnt fight them and know that they filled their weaknesses couldnt.

Even blacktide leaders themselves didnt want to claim the 1st spot, maybe to confuse enemy who knows.

But Desolation giving up after weekend is pretty unexpected. RUIN was calling for good-fights and no give up attitude that werent happening on US bracket for so long, then when they get kicked they all go excuses.

You know what desolation could offer you, heck you picked them at T3 you knew they were free-falling for a reason, which they couldnt compete in EU timezone.
So why do you expect them to compete at that same timezone in T1, when they only got fair-weather guilds which are the first one’s to throw the towel when thing go wrong.

Glad that VS is ahead of them which is a huge surprise and if RUIN stops pulling their weight, Deso will get back in T3, where they belong.

Well, tbh Riverside is alot weaker in numbers than last time we faced.
Dunno what happened since they got smashed in T2, but Miller’s is a much stronger server and I expected them to be in the lead not us.

Lets see how the weekdays pan out.

The primetime fight should be fierce with the Disorder League on blacktide to back up the already good blacktide primetime.

I heard that even more amount of guilds bailed from Far Shiverpeaks to Desolation, dunno which ones but they shouldnt be better than DL.

Although the off-time hours should be very boring since Ruin will bash reinforced door from 1AM to 6AM and Xaoc will bash the same doors from 6AM to 8AM and probably carry that lead the rest of the day.

I dunno what night hour Vizunah pretend to contest, but i’m pretty sure that they will be last unless mass incoming transfer from other FR servers to help them out.

And I actually think blacktide could win this first T1 week if they pull the extra effort to stay 1, 2h more into the night so that they can stall and damage control until xaoc CTA’s.

They both have the awesome coverage, but russians sleep last (edit: well this is misconcept since they are the first ones to go to bed :p) and I predict Blacktide victory.

Here, called it first, now deal with the pressure boys. :p

So someone care to elaborate who the new reinforcements are?
Is Disorder League one of them?

Curious to know the develop of blacktide, looking at atm score, maybe it is enough backup to surpass t2?

Riverside and Kodash may not be alliead, but its pretty clear by now that, they avoid each other 90% of time.

I understanded that at the weekend, since we were ahead that they would focus us.
This early morning Riverside surpassed us and it is pretty clear that they avoid each other in off-hours.
Riverside zerged EB with 0 Kodash present so the outmanned SFR got wiped until 12 CET.
Kodash BL, was all blue while 0 Riverside to contest it.

If they really wanted to trade blows, Kodash would join the EB brawl, while Riverside would contest “their” side at Kodash BL.
They don’t do it until they probably have all queues in other maps so they have no choice, but to contest each other now and then.

This is something very upsetting since it should be a service provided by ANET, not a ingame guild that actually took the effort to build and maintain this service.

Since their website is down, so is the matchups.
No clue on why.

Sorry to burst your bubble but OSC was present in SFR Borderland since 16CET atleast today.
They are italian only and currently the strongest WvW guild on Seafarers Rest.

And signet of might is build dependant, the banner is actually not as usefull in big zergs.

Try again.
PS: I’m not OSC and i’m sure they dont need my defense.

Ok, so lets resume this up.

The fact that there are several SFR posters here, it doesnt have to be the general feelings of the server.
The ones who dont complain are fighting and are ingame, so the majority of us that does the actual combat you don’t see us around here because we spend the limited time we have to fight in the maps.

The fact that SFR are coming from 2 weeks of constant complains doesnt help since it seems people got used to complain instead of joining a map and actually improve our performance.
I dont like it, but this is an open forum and nobody cant stop a few whiners to whine and everyone knows how vocal a whiner can be.

The fact is that blacktide and particulary xaoc uses a couple of exploits, but we are used to be exploited and I think people should just cut it off after the first few reports.

The fact is that xaoc does morning capping with CTA’s that carries blacktide un-opossed until 6pm, so we are talking about almost 2h of effort-less objectives gain and 10h of effort-less defense that gives a huge point lead.

Not only that but by the time SFR gets presence on map, we are fighting upgraded keeps with lots of defense and stocked supply against full 3-orb zergs and lets not discount, Riverside too, they mainly focus on Eternal but is another force on map that blacktide doesnt deal with in the mornings, but we do at night.
No one can say that is easy to overcome, unless they havent played against it.

The fact is Blacktide is much stronger (in terms of numbers, coverage and organization) and the fact that those Gunnars Hold guilds that recently transfered were what xaoc needed to pull the server to T2, I believe without those new recruits and influx of organized guilds, Blacktide would still have an hard time against us, because they would bleed much more during prime-time, which isnt happening atm, we can get even in points tick, which is already a pretty huge win considering we fight the uphill battle as I said before, so no complains here.
We get the lead at 23 or 24 CET time because as is normal to blacktide to have full maps on 16 CET against our outmanned, is normal aswell for them to then go to sleep sooner and we fight against an outmanned blacktide at 23 CET.

What separates us apart is not that, but is, we dont have a guild that CTA’s at 6AM CET and Blacktide do, is the huge sell point of their (xaoc\chaos) server since the begining.

I don’t envy you on your T2 endeavors next week, its ok we fought the N1 EU server in Arborstone, but Desolation with RUIN as of now are a T1 server aswell and i’m pretty sure the result wont be much different then last week.
I’m happy we maintain our T3 position which wasnt set in stone coming sunday and surely we will meet in the future, if its sooner or later depends on you being capable of beating Far Shiverpeaks or not.

And hopefully we are fully recovered from our past weeks and can have a closer matchup.