Guild Wars 2

Oxxy.7068:

I just praised his stand-up comedy habilities.

You are my new favorite poster. You just made someone go…

haviz.1340:

Nikaido.3457:

I log back just once just to see this path.. the kitten I have to put up with.. screenshot taken while rezzing a full dead after 5 wipes with people going max possible range, not cleaning a single oil spill and never avoiding the attacks from the ooze which has like a 10 hour build up before it hits anyone..

Certainly the LFG tool completely killed pug quality. I don’t remember getting a spirit weapon guardian on gw2lfg for months.

The dungeon doesn’t seem overly bad, but not that great either so far. The idiotic pugs who complained about TAF/U will stop doing TA altogether I bet because while this path isn’t harder, it requires more coordination with is way too much to ask for, particularly on European servers with deaf mutes who join your party not speaking a single word of English.

Why did you whiten his name? I’d like to chat with him.

I got enough infraction as it is (from posting screenshots with names).

God, this lfg tool is the worst thing known to mankind. It’s my first time using it I already got enough cancer to cover all my organs. It is definitely true that while the people who were on gw2lfg weren’t always up to par, there is just no comparison between the braindeadness I’m witnessing here and this tool audience.

I just saw a rifle warrior let the ooze hug him for 4 seconds, then eat the 90% health hit without moving even once, and only started moving once he got hit. zz
I’m not asking for elite players when I pug, but is it too much to ask for players who got a kittening pulse ? are they even alive? human? or bots?

But then again, the trinity is the same thing that kills MMO’s. Play a class that isn’t tank/DPS/healer, and no one wants you in any of the game content.

What do you want to be then if you were not either a dps, a tank or a healer ? Roleplay a fisherman in dungeons? What the kitten is that sentence supposed to mean? I knew the play-as-you-want were filled with idiocy but this is reaching a new low. Idiotic players like you are WHY this game NEEDS the trinity badly, because without the trinity straightjacket, in a game that still has a concept of different gear type people get lost and completely forego the idea of a decent party composition that fits the game. In trinity based games if you weren’t filling a useful role expected by the party you’d get booted by E-V-E-R-Y-O-N-E, not just the people you love to call elitist in this forum. GW2 is that carebear community that is welcoming anything at the cost of turning into a torrent of crap. Because there’s no trinity, but a huge variety of gear, idiots will use it and nobody fits an actual role since there are no real roles in this game beside dps in terms of gear (utilities can still support though).

In other games even the worst pug wouldn’t be without DPS-specialized builds in the group because the spirit of trinity completely permeates the community and makes sure they know about remotely decent party compositions. GW2 it’s the contrary, you can join a pug that is filled with 4 tanks. Hell, in trinity games tanks and healers are the rare roles, the ones that take the least amount of time to find groups for high end content, there isn’t a lack of people playing dps.

I don’t really even know what to say at this point. I don’t even feel like trolling anymore. This is just beyond terrible and nothing will get done about the quality of players that test the content.

Oxxy.7068:

I’m watching the Dev’s video right now, you can’t skip cutscenes, which means you’ll probably waste 10 minutes worthy of doing something else listening to npcs that you don’t give a crap about. YESSSS. At 16:50ish he says “even our lovely group of coordinate people is having difficulties in keeping something alive”… and then i realize they’re killing normal mobs and no one pulled them together to allow cleaving, and he’s using scepter+gs mesmer… and now i’ve closed the video, what a bucket of kitten.

edit: here’s the link in case anyone wants to acquire brain cancer – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbVtyFap1Uc

The mesmer ate a godkitten veggie pizza and, instead of a dungeon slaying potion, a tuning crystal. A motherkittening tuning crystal. Brain cancer? more like we’re at the terminal metastasis stage.
A long as content can be “completed” by such teams it will never be taken seriously.
The lack of a trinity hurts this game in that it seems the vast majority of players, even anet employees, don’t know how to gear up properly if they’re not forced into a particular role. You don’t see the player base going 10 tank group in other MMOs. GW2 is the only mmo where you can make a pug and everyone in the group is playing a tank build. Or builds that just make complete zero sense like confusion mesmer in PVE which is what this guy seems to be playing ( let’s put confusion on him )

Which means that dungeon encounters are balanced around the idea that even this kind of cancerous group can complete them. I don’t like trinity systems but it doesn’t seem like a MMO can do without because if you don’t force the player base into particular roles they’ll end up like gw2’s player base and to make that player base happy you have to push out even worse content.

Oh and remember every time someone complains about X or Y dungeon being too hard (like all the whining when AC was revamped). A group like the one you linked in that video managed to complete it or it wouldn’t have been released. How much worse are the groups that are complaining?

And I’m not against the thought of culling some of the useless path of the game when dungeons become too redundant but they removed the most fun TA path to replace it with something I don’t expect to ever run more than once if it’s anything like the molten facility and other living story trash. They should have removed up and just made the spider despawn at the end of TA F/U.
If there are dungeon paths in this game that need to be removed, HotW P2 and P3 would be the first on my list.

New TA path is replacing one of the original 3?

Wow.

Just. Wow.

When finally a small light of hope, the idea that Anet finally started pushing out permanent content over temporary one, finally starting adding stuff to the game…you discover that in order to put permanent content they take away some permanent content?

Just.

Wow.

colesy.8490:

There was absolutely no reason to replace TAFU.

Allow me to explain why this is being removed…

akamon.2769:

Breaking Bad.6241:

Bearbow is a ranger with a bow and pet bear, ideally sitting at 1500 range autoattacking. Known for one of the worst dps in the game competing with staff guardians, GS mesmers, flamethrower engis, pistol Thieves, and cleric eles.

what about my 30/30/0/0/0 zerker scholar signet staff camping Guardian?

too cool to use the last 10 trait points? I approve.

Tier 1: Warriors, Guardians, Rangers, Mesmer, Thieves, Ele, Engineer
Tier 2: Necro

Dub.1273:

Nike Porphyrogenita.8137:

haviz.1340:

I know many people consider blinking during rush as something bordeline exploit but what if teleport wouldn’t make you stuck in place?

Is this an exploit to you?

Nope. You aren’t breaking a skill or glitching an animation.

Making a skill hit twice as often is much more exploit’ish than simply teleporting to get more procs off.

You’re being coy. You know full well there is a big difference between hitting twice with whirl and hitting 40 more times with rush. Jaywalking is not treated the same as murder.

An exploit is a combination both of what you do and the results of doing it. Using an exploit to jump over a wall which saves you 10 seconds on a 10 minute dungeon run is an exploit, but it’s nothing compared to jumping over a wall which skips you directly to the end boss and allows completing the path in 45 seconds.

This is why it’s so difficult to come up with community standards for speed runs, because it requires and nuanced view of things as well as having to deal with sophists who pretend there are no gray areas, so they trap people into saying something hypocritical for some personal trolling satisfaction.

spoj.9672:

Hmm seems anet have decided to change their stance on selling dungeon slots all of a sudden.

https://twitter.com/GuildWars2/status/380793184047366144

Seems like I’m not going to use this tool… I have a guild for dungeon runs and lfg for selling.
Anyway I would like to know if a “bot” will delete my posts after X players report it or not. If there is a bot I’ll report every GS mes or longbow ranger who join “exp only” groups just for fun

But in all those videos they exploited the mechanics by dodging grubs

The Mexican Cookie.3690:

Secretly I already have the records for every profession. I just have no proof and don’t plan on sharing any. My word is law.

The Mexican Guang

Secretly I already have the records for every profession. I just have no proof and don’t plan on sharing any. My word is law.

I believe everyone would be fine to use no exploits in speedrun videos.
Fiery Rush isn’t an exploit, though, so restricting it’s use would be kittened and nothing i’d agree on.

I would not count so much on LOD either, they have maybe 3-4 people who are committed enough to make a record… and they would probably say whatever gets the fastest time in the current meta, all exploits and glitches included.
BUT, to put my two cents into this I think there should be two different sets of records; one where you complete the dungeon as fast as possible, all glitches and exploits included, no third party programs, something like an “all time” record. The second is where you have a group doing a dungeon completing all necessary story steps (kholer and korga are not necessary) using no exploits (los/skipping is allowed, Arah JP not allowed, lets say no FGS too while we are at it) and up to date with the current meta. I think that having these two separate records will show both how strong an individual/team is and how committed they are without baring some due to their views on what is “right.”

I’d say it would be quite good if we got a representative from each of the top dungeon guilds and they all decided together (a commitee maybe?) on what would be defined as an exploit and what wasn’t and then future records can be set on those criteria. Only guilds I can really think of though are rT, DnT and LOD though, if you guys can think of a few more (I suppose Define does count).

any event that you cant faceroll by pressing 1111111 was always gonna result in much qq

I personally think they did a good job with teq, and people need to get some skillz on the turrets

From what I’ve been seeing, you need 4 commander tags: 1 Left Turret, 1 Left Ranged DPS, 1 Right Turret, 1 Right Ranged DPS.

The Turret commanders lead players that are protecting the turret users. Their job is to direct the destruction of fingers, kill mobs, and ensure the safety of the turrets.

The DPS commanders are markers. they stand IN FRONT of the turrets while the turret users spam 4 and 5 on them and the mob surrounding them.

Players on turrets are VERY important. They need to understand that they are pressing #2 for scales, # 4 for buffing the DPS commander markers, and #3 to remove poison. Throw in #5 on DPS commander markers to make add heals.

Z3rkur gear is more successful when the whole team is wearing it. You’ve got PVT gear in which you try to out-endure your opponent, then Zirkor in which it’s kill before you’re killed. So a majority of players able to out-endure a boss’ attacks teamed up with poor Basurkor whose quickly running out of dodges does make Bagsirkor look worse, despite the fact that he probably did double the damage contribution of the PVT carebears before going down.

Prime example of this is the Slave Driver in CoF1. 5 Burgzirghuirz will melt him before anyone downs, start adding in PVT players and people start downing.

Congratulations to Blackgate on becoming WORLD FIRST to beat Tequatl!!**(THANK YOU flickky.2634 for the video)

Successful Video: http://www.twitch.tv/flickky/c/2951634
Successful Video…FROM OVERFLOW (thanks ReijKa.2350): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2u9VFFjNAA

Please post tactics (not sarcasm) for Tequatl below:

General Tactic Guides

Armor Suggestions from Marquie Thomas.1873
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/livingworld/tequatl/Tequatl-Tactics/page/2#post2860456

For Everyone

DPS

Melee Tips

• If pure melee, try to remove poison fingers. They cause high damage to those on turrets

Turret Tips

Links:

• Twitch: http://www.twitch.tv/guildwars2/b/454437568 start at 1:40:40.

• Tequatl MECHANICS and Developer Commentary:*
  http://www.twitch.tv/guildwars2/b/454437568 start at 0:50:00.
  (thanks to Exosferatu.2961 for the twitch links)

• Dulfy PAX information here (including some turret and scale stack info): http://dulfy.net/2013/08/31/gw2-pax-anniversary-bash-coverage/

Dishonorable Updated engi solo, 10:20 min
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fzr6fXAH0DY

Dishonorable necromancer solo ~15 mins(25-30 sec cut in video due to HDD getting full)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sinh5-FK7l8

oops

people hate zerk for the same reason people hate eles and engies. They think everyone is incapable of running zerk, or they’ve tried to run zerk and got squashed. The skill cap is high for zerk in a dungeon, and it requires a certain type of build, and jedi-like reflexes.

The Mexican Cookie.3690:

Well, Nikaido, I look at it as something that the community has full control over. The people who are really having a lot of fun with this game, trying to push the limits of dungeons and what is possible, sharing with the community new tricks and tactics (legit or otherwise), are ultimately the ones who decide how seriously they should take the scene.

Personally, I really enjoy trying to see just how fast I can take a team through a dungeon path; however it would all be pointless if the community did not approve of the methods used. After all, if your time is not recognized by the community as a proper accomplishment, what was the point? I understand that you have some pretty strong feelings against this game currently, but try to look at it from a more impartial side of things.

Well, what was the point? if you do it, do it for yourself, if you have fun, then do it, if it’s not fun for you, then don’t. Community? what community? There’s barely any dungeon community to speak of. Beside the people who come on this dungeon subforum plus the crew of “OHEXPLTZ” from HC there isn’t really any sort of larger dungeon community.

I’d be sad for you if you’d let a community slightly larger than my ten fingers can count decide for yourself whether a record should be made in that way or the other way.

Dolan.3071:

Nikaido’s quitting! Can I have your gold?.

I barely have 10 gold left (I spent the remainder of my gold on making an ascended Focus). And I’m not fully quitting. No point in making it dramatic. I can still play when I feel like it. I just don’t feel like this game is worth logging on everyday, grind some gold/dungeons then log off while feeling zero sense of fun through the process.
Just i’m not going to log on everyday just because anet decided for us to have to do dumb dailies on, and I’m not going to continue doing the same content over, and over, and over, just so that I can get weapons that will allow me to… what? do the same content again! and again! At the very least the true grind MMORPGs will give you CONTENT for that grind, give you a REASON for grinding, this game just makes you grind the same kitten for absolutely jack kitten. Why grind for ascended weapons. So that you can do the same dungeons 30s faster? I realized with the last ascended weapons patch that I was going to be a prisoner of the dumbest skinner box in the world if I still kept playing this game everyday as opposed to casually. At the very least, like I said, the other skinner box give you a reward at the end in the form of accessing new content that is worth playing.

You know what is the true guild wars 2 end game? Trolling. Trolling is the true gw2 end game. I love all the trolling going on more than I love playing this game.

That Necro transferred Torment to every elitist in the game with that post.

If fractal weapons changed colors based on the level you acquired them on, there would be a prestige element. Fotm level 80 fractal weapons would be pretty kick kitten .

winning rng isn’t prestigious full stop