Guild Wars 2

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Should have mentioned I was talking about their recent records.
Yes, you still pre stack(so you can open with ice bows with 25 might)
But for longer fights, the might will come from the warrior.

Even w/o stealth, thief has its place. Superior single target and does more damage with the ice bow anyway..also pistol #4 to deal with defiance quickly.

Look at iV’s records. All of them used PS warrior.
This allows your ele’s to go with Scholar runes and both run staff.
Also warrior stacks might much faster in combat then ele’s do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aap1LeSm5Fg

Hell, even goku used PS for a duo lupi with an ele.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4ekUvFEYkU

Holy mother of Necro.
Anet should make this class viable so they stay out of Forums.

Ele has the highest AoE DPS in GW2 atm(single target goes to thief).
It also has the lowest armor(light) and lowest HP pool(10K). Because of the attunements, you’ll have 20 weapon skills, so you’ll have to learn how to use them effectively.

It’s a very rewarding class to play in PvE, high risk very high reward

Some builds:

Staff:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fFAQFAGnMISLDY9A0RQACgIcQ0gwyMA-ThRBABXt/o8DPdA5dBAA4BAQp6PmpEUQAjC-e

Last 4 points depend on situation: 66200 66002 64220 64202 are all viable(traits to take are Tempest Defense, Stone Splinter, Vital Sriking, Blasting Staff).After a while you will learn what build to use in every encounter.

Last skill is either: Signet of Fire or Lightning Storm(insane Vurn stacking)

Standard S/F might stacking build:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fFAQJArdnMISTDWABWPAdEGYAwCHAmAFgR1AxngLwME-TxRBABXp8jm9HwTPQenAAAeAAUq+jZKBFEwoA-e

D/F FA build:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fFAQJAodnMISTDW2AWPAdEGQAwCHAqAHgR3AxpgMQNE-TxRBABXp8jm9HwTPQenAAAeAAUq+jZKBFEwoA-e

If all of this sounds interesting, make sure to read Haviz’ and Zelyh’s guide on Dulfy:http://dulfy.net/2014/07/11/gw2-elementalist-pve-class-guide-by-haviz-and-zelyhn/

@Yelloweyedemon.2860

Warrior DPS was always on the lower side. People just stacked them because it was stupidly easy to play(self buffing and stuff). If people knew back then how high ele and thief DPS was with the right builds and might stacking, warrior would have been less popular and complained about. They can kiss Anets feet for the banner buff too, that and phalanx(I know some guilds still don’t like this) is what keeps them in the meta.

If we are talking about solo, then yes they got hit pretty hard with GS nerfs.

I’m sure this only happens in mid-tier.

Because all the pro players are in Tier 1, amirite?

Jerus.4350:

No Pulse.2967:

Wethospu.6437:

Painbow.6059:

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people who only play warrior are usually worse
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:(

So much hate on warrior mains :/

Much love for all the great warriors out there. Much hate for all the warriors who are to kittening lazy to pull out their warhorns and give my mesmer some swiftness… kitten those guys… making me use hylek pots… kittens.

Where is your Centaur rune armor set? :o

I don’t think Gunnar Steelarm would come to the forum and ask for a build. Sounds like that would break the roleplay experience.

I will skip to 4.

Thief is an amazing class for solo’s. You have high base crit chance and decent amount of fury, wich is great for solo’s. For surviving, you have Pistol Whip+Signet of Malice.

Some tips for your concerns

Belka: Take normal 3 signets+smoke screen, go 56003(build around dmg for dual skills)
Spam PW for heals(really nice if you can hit her+a barrel for double heal). Daggerstorm can be used for massive heal+reflect, you will hit a couple barrel’s with it so GG Signet of Malice heals. When you are low, go to safe spot, double tap sword 2 if you still have burning, go OOC and run back in.

Lupi: first of all, run 56030 for casual solo’s or even in pug groups. This will give you more dodges then you can use(dagger AA gives endurance back too). Get vigor on heal if you need it, might on dodge if you don’t. Heal should be withdraw, take your 2 signets and shadow step or roll for ini(I don’t like Smoke Screen, it always kills me).
D/D + S/P, camp D/D as much as you can.

Phase 1: try to backstab as much as possible. Dodge grubs and kicks of course. If you get to many swarms, cleave with sword.

Phase 2: Dodge swipes :p
For the AoE, dodge back, withdraw back in, dodge again(you have enough of em)
RNG can still kill you.

Phase 3: This one is AFK mode. Double dodge single target, dodge+withdraw AoE drain. Dodge spray if you are off wall.

I’m sure I forgot a lot, but its some basics for casual stuff. If you have more concerns just ask and I’m also sure others will let you know what I missedd

http://metabattle.com/wiki/MetaBattle_Wiki

Look at what you play the most.
If it’s wvw, make Ascended Celestial and use Exotic Assassin’s for PvE
If it’s PvE, make Ascended Assassin’s and Exotic Celestial for WvW.

Really try not to use same set for both Game Modes.

Stupid question.
With the Warrior running Phalanx, I’m guessing he runs Strength runes and both Ele’s run Scholar?

No ice bow, must be fake.

Iris Ng.9845:

Why do you guys even bother…? Really…

The OP is the prime example of the current meta tryhards. Nothing you’ve said will get through him. Just raise the white flag, like the true French.

You are right, but maybe a bad time to make French jokes.

NumenorLord.6539:

Acotje.5689:

Just unlucky with auto attack aggro I guess. If there is an ele, ask to summon Rocky.

Thanks for the advice.

You mean this Rocky, right?

Wow, he even looks like an Earth elemental

Just unlucky with auto attack aggro I guess. If there is an ele, ask to summon Rocky.

Cynz.9437:

do you have mug trait on?

Mug is fine. It’s the stealth on steal that normally kittens people over.
So I’m pretty sure that all effects on steal happen before CnD hits.

Make sure you dont have Stealth on Steal trait on.

Because we can summon them.
You forgot Hammer btw.

Yes, I know I’m a bit salty. It’s just that there is so much information(just check the stickies) and still posts like this show up.

Funny, here I was thinking Ele had the best DPS in GW2.

Dub.1273:

Yes and please also ban using PI on dhuum in gw1.
?!?

No turtles!

Because there is nothing Glorious about Celestial armor.
See what I did there?

kevvyd.4207:

Why no to precision runes? Wouldn’t you want to maximize the critical chance? Is it because the crit chance is high enough and you would be better off putting the effort elsewhere, like say power?

Sorry, should have explained more.
As a thief you already have the highest crit chance in the game.
6 points in Precision trait line
Signet of Agility
Side Strike
Keen observer
Food
Thats about 77-78% CC in Full zerk w/ Scholar(I’m cheap so I use 80 Power 60 Precision food; the Precision here is already a loss but meh…It’s for when I lose Keen Observer ;p )

For solo, you have a decent amount of Fury uptime(Furious Retaliation+Thrill of the Crime) and in group it SHOULD be perma Fury from Ele’s. Brings you up to 98% CC.
Add a Discipline Banner and you have 105%
And of course there is a small chance you’ll get a Ranger with spotter, adds even more CC that you don’t even need.

And that is on lvl 80, with the broken downscalling in this game, you’ll hit the cap even faster. The numbers are maybe not 100% correct but they are close.
So yeah, TL;DR
Precision runes are a waste on thief

Don’t use Precision runes on a thief…

JDjitsu.7895:

Acotje.5689:

ProtoGunner.4953:

Aren’t they both just pretty bad and you just should use bloodlust, accuracy, force, of the night or something like this?

I’m sure he is talking about PvP as Short Bow has no place in PvE for Combat.

I prefer Fire for the AoE. Mesmer clones disagree.

Edit: this filter…

SB no place for PVE? Not true at all. Um one of the best blast finishers in the game with Cluster bomb, evade in #3, poison field, and teleport to get around the map super fast. The blast finisher alone is worth taking it.

Acotje.5689:

for Combat

TPMN.1483:

At the risk of the bingo wrath …
So why the SB thief?

It’s good for certain situations (depending on class / team compositions- eg missing some necessary might stacking ) and some traversal areas.
I must admit the actual trash should be fought on some other weapons

I’m p sure it’s for thieves that use it in combat.

Veckna.9621:

pranker.3748:

Acotje.5689:

http://i.imgur.com/HiV1bFe.jpg
#Meta

I don’t trust you… It is clear you have more characters (the right arrow at the bottom), which might not be human female! Are you hiding something? Do you have a charr?!?!?!

Everyone has a charr warrior hidden somewhere in the depths of their character select screen

I was hiding a human female NECRO, aka bank space for Fagonite T.T
The Norn Warrior is hidden on my NA acc

ProtoGunner.4953:

Aren’t they both just pretty bad and you just should use bloodlust, accuracy, force, of the night or something like this?

I’m sure he is talking about PvP as Short Bow has no place in PvE for Combat.

I prefer Fire for the AoE. Mesmer clones disagree.

Edit: this filter…

http://i.imgur.com/HiV1bFe.jpg
#Meta

“All the medi guards and turret engis and pu mesmos …”
" cuz the esports teams all use these “easy to win” build"
Uwot?

If it is just to tag mobs, I’d go Battle+Fire. More Might and extra AoE.
Go with Zerk, in events people will overwrite your condi’s anyway.

Why would you ambush that poor Giant :/

From a PvE PoV:
Start with Warrior.
Once you know the content, you can go Guardian. You should switch skills/traits according to the encounter, so you have to know what you are dealing with.

Your job as a Warrior is a lot easier. Bring banners.
(ofc there is a lot more to being a good Warrior, I just mean that it is a lot easier to pick up)

Kirito.5127:

Thank you too. Can I ask, is Berserker build considered weak for PvE? (Mainly Fractals). Cause one of the guides was Berserker build and I think it was good enough.

Berserker is the meta. All classes run it(or Assassins) for both Dungeons and Fractals.
There is no tanking in GW2, so you stack up dmg and use active defense to stay alive(dodge, block, blind, reflect, absorb,…).

http://dulfy.net/2014/07/21/gw2-mesmer-pve-class-guide-by-sanderinoa/#Armor_and_Weapons
It’s a lot, but worth reading.

Staff=Scholar
S/X S/F= Strength

See what you run the most and use those runes on your ascended armor. Carry the others on an Exotic armor in your inv.

Zui.9245:

Acotje.5689:

Cliffside should be tier 3 only.
Dredge should be tier 2 only.

And the freakin drill should drill faster ;_;

I’m not entirely sure what you’re talking about. The weapons test fractal (Molten Furnace) is the one with the slow drill; the Dredge (Underground Facility) fractal does have a drill room (where you have to have 2 people stand on switches and one person do a channel on the panel to unlock the door), but that’s really not slow IMO, it’s a pretty appropriate channel time. Molten Furnace (slow drill fractal) is tier 2 only. Dredge (Underground Facility) is tier 3 only.

Last line was about Molten drill :p
I hate time gates ._.

Cliffside should be tier 3 only.
Dredge should be tier 2 only.

And the freakin drill should drill faster ;_;

Healer lfr, full nomads

Not bad, for a pile of sand.

*Hides his secret Sandy shrine *

Abandon thread.

Flamewall has its place in PvE.

Fire 5:(smoke screen) smoke field blinds enemies inside the field
cause we need more classes with kitten load of stealth

And Ele off-hands are in a really good place.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/dungeons/Guide-to-Sigils-and-Potions-in-Dungeons/first

For some reason never got a sticky, probably cause it’s “just” Dungeon Forum.

Daily rewards are bugged.
Only 50 gives reward at the end, others don’t.

Thanks Wintersday patch.

And http://dulfy.net/2014/07/10/gw2-thief-pve-class-guide/ will help you even more

Runewolf.8456:

cause ACTUALLY good runes are expensive as kitten so people take what they can get. In my case i just happened to have a friend who crafts and is willing to make me stuff for cheap.

How is 27g for 6 scholar runes expensive? If you farm enough CoE tokens for a full armor set, you have the gold for scholar runes too.