Guild Wars 2

FuzzyStarburst.3071:

SoS vs SoR last week was a very imbalanced match, and I doubt you’ll find anyone who would disagree. Blackgate was meddling, Halloween was interrupting. One night SoR had everything, one night SoS had everything. It was a mess, and pretty unenjoyable. I hope both side can turn out at the same time this week, and I hope that SoS’s Oceanic guilds can respect PRX, who did an AMAZING job last week. I fought the NA primetime, I fought the Oceanic primetime, and there’s no doubt to which one we’re planning against more.

Last week’s SoR matchup (and all the stuff you mention above) was really good for the growth and cohesion of SoS. We learnt a lot across the board, and I suspect you will find it a more even match this time (hopefully to our benefit).

I am really please that guilds from IoJ and HoD NA timeslot have been out there having a go and pulling back the +ppt quite a bit. It bothers me that IoJ oceanic time has been so completely absent and SoS has been going +695 or close to it every night (aussie time) without too much of a challenge, especially as SoS has had no new oceanic-timeslot guilds move to the server at all since last time there was an SoS-IoJ matchup (we’ve actually had some leave).

I hope IoJ aussies are just resting. SoR will certainly bring it on against both servers tomorrow night – should be great fun!

Very pleased about this and a balanced step until they guesting feature is implemented (and it implies in the statement from Anet that free server transfers will be switched off once they can get it working).

It won’t eradicate the spying/mid-week server-hopping etc. but these things will decrease.

If players move mid-week it means they can’t move back to their “home server” for the start of their next match-up which would put them very off-side with their own community.

If players want to transfer on a Friday it means they are part of a WvW for a whole week which is less disruptive for that match-up.

It resets friday night.

Not in australia/nz or anywhere else this side of the Pacific. Saturday about 11 AM in Sydney.

How does SoR have full queues and have 80 points per tick. What the heck happened to this server? That is just plain pathetic.

Methinks Defiance may have run away from SoS too hastily…

Mikitten058:

There are players who have moved from BG to SoR this week with the intention of moving back to BG by end of the week. Thus the problems with queue times on SoR, and the blowout in score, especially in the last 24 hours.

Then I dont get why they moved to SoR to begin with. x.x

Because they thought they were missing the awesomeness of the matchup we were having?

Quan.5813:

he is talking about CRS and ND, but then again i see PRX and i think RMA on SOS so…..no idea what he is qqing about.

PRX and RMA have made SoS there new home.

There are players who have moved from BG to SoR this week with the intention of moving back to BG by end of the week. Thus the problems with queue times on SoR, and the blowout in score, especially in the last 24 hours.

oxide.8324:

Due to the way the point system works IoJ will most likely not be T1 next week. The T1 & T2 matchups should remain the same for at least another week.

T1 the same, T2 – BG should move, with either ET or CD moving down

(being on SoS, I’d prefer to face ET I think now RUIN has gone – they have really good oceanic presence still). http://mos.millenium.org/matchups/#NA

But hey, it’s only Monday, let’s not call the result yet.

celeron.3469:

There are 1 or 2 commanders that have done their own thing the entire time, even before we came here. Somebody apparently ran into them, but they were told not to worry about it, because it has always been that way with them. I can’t really name any names here and I’m not going to talk about the AoI side since that isn’t my place.

But I will say it’s been pretty smooth and SoS’s existing alliance (whatever one [MERC] is in) has been working with us to try and bring the entire server together as one, instead of NA population and Oceanic population. There are differences in opinions, that is expected, nobody even knows/trust each other yet, but it is nowhere near as bad as you were making it out to be.

Given time SoS is going to become a great server as a whole and I personally look forward to it.

I agree with all of this.

It is the Sea of Sorrows Union (SoSu) which has about 15 guilds in there now (including most of the large ones).

Gangbot.8641:

Once SoS make it to T3 and T2, they will lose on the first day.

Most on SoS have no problem with that, although I wouldn’t put money down on that.

- SoS has not won a matchup for about five weeks. And we have been enjoying the heck out of WvW, especially at weekends.
- How we go in WvW depends who we are up against. But I’d say we will go more than OK at the moment.
- being against servers with a significant oceanic presence means that we can play against evenly matched or better oceanic players which is what we yearn for. If we lose to IoJ/BG/JQ/ET/SBI and have had fun while doing so, that’s fine with me. I am hoping we get matched against ET next week (who have really good oceanic guilds still there).
- The guilds who have moved to SoS have had clear (but differing) expectations. If they are not met and they want to move elsewhere, that’s fine.

It is great to see SoS has maintained it’s lead during the NA primetime in the current matchup against FA/Mag. This in large part due to the new NA guilds who have joined us in the last week

Anyone else who wants to join us on SoS apparently Mon-Thu the server is only listed as Med/High during NA primetime (and it is “high” now) so that might be the best time to do it.

Raze.5420:

Would be nice if the forum allowed me to quote properly…. but anyway….

I disagree. HoD and IoJ have large oceanic populations but looking at various guild lists SoS has by far the greatest number of oceanic guilds.

I’m sorry, but i fail to see where number of guilds on a guild list = population. The simple fact that those guys we all love… RUIN have 2000 members and my guild for example has about 15 just makes your argument non-sensical and poorly thought out in the extreme.

Fact is last week the IoJ oceanic population smashed the oceanic population on SoS (see that is why i put in perhaps they were better….) and this week the sheer numbers of ET’s oceanic guilds (obviously not skill at all, just numbers (that’s tongue in cheek for those who fail comprehension)) are keeping IoJ down in oceanic prime time. last week HoD did exactly the same to ET.

How can you possibly say, with any shred of credibility, that SoS has a larger oceanic population?

Let’s not argue on this. How about we agree that SoS and IoJ, being the “unofficial oceanic servers”, have the largest oceanic populations.

I would suggest that guilds on ET and HoD are generally more WvW focussed than SoS. This does not mean they have more oceanic payers, rather they have oceanic guilds who play WvW a lot and are very good at it.

As an aside, I have a lot of respect for IoJ and believe they are the #5 ranked server in my opinion. I believe this is in part because they have always had more NA timezone players than SoS and recently had done a good job recruiting more (which is something we hope to now do on SoS).

Dwok Immortalus.2763:

gorgewall.4901:

Sea of Suckers has enough of a NA population to fill queues during the primetime.

As someone who was on Tarnished Coast until Tuesday, even on the very first day of the matchup, we never saw a single SoS player before 3am (EST). As a result, we moved our guild to SoS to try to get some challenge back in the game (TC has been awesome, but after two weeks of huge wins in a row, TC’s WvW population has exploded with fairweather transfers).

After switching…holy crap. Our guild is very often the only presence in any of the zones from 2pm-10pm.

Any NA guild who transfers across is guaranteed to get instant queues in WvW – can fit their whole guild in without a problem.

And at the moment, during oceanic primetime:

SoS +580
TC +115
GoM +0

Raze.5420:

SmokeyNYY.7841:

Bump.

Sea of Sorrows has the largest Oceanic playebase in the game. Come make a difference Americans.

Sea of Sorrows does not have the largest Oceanic playerbase in the game, not even close. .

I disagree. HoD and IoJ have large oceanic populations but looking at various guild lists SoS has by far the greatest number of oceanic guilds.

Gorgewall – you’re in a grumpy mood about something. Completely making stuff up too.

And thankyou Psy – we very much welcome you and your guildies to SoS

ET need to get past IoJ and CD first.

IoJ Oceanic > ET oceanic.

This is going to be close.

willwill.9318:

Like last week?

If you mean the “Some on ET behaving poorly” bit then most probably.

After the way some on ET were behaving against SoS last week don’t think this is going to happen much. I think you’ll have your hands full with ioJ anyway.

NoizeMaker.8367:

Azure Prower.8701:

Zabatakis.3571:

Last week sucked. I don’t think we stood up to ET in numbers at any point besides prime time, where we would eek out what points we could from taking what few fully fortified defenses possible. Our oceanic hours are good, but not capacity and it felt like ET was always at 100%. Also does not help most of the Aussie guilds REFUSE to leave spawn until they have everyone in. So as they are taking the shift we are usually down 20-30 players and at a disadvantage.

It really did not help us last week that SoS decided to all but ignore ET due to cowardice and constantly attack us whenever we were on the offensive in an attempt to get second. Rumor was it was a bunch of ET xfering to really give us the screws but I don’t know about that. All the more pleasure gained from rocking their kitten this week.

I don’t really think SoS was trying this week. After the ET griefing our server’s WvW and siphoning players off to their server. SoS doesn’t really want to face them again. They’re not fun to play against. So we made sure we lost so your server gets the honors. Enjoy!

I thought SoS was some sort of Super PVP server.. Weird I must of heard wrong.

IoJ is one of the few servers who can challenge us in our oceanic prime time (as they were the other unofficial “oceanic server”). I think IoJ has always had more NA guilds which makes a difference in WvW. It has been SoS vs IoJ two weeks running now.

Next week IoJ and SoS will be in separate brackets so results will probably be very different.

Zabatakis.3571:

Azure Prower.8701:

Zabatakis.3571:

Last week sucked. I don’t think we stood up to ET in numbers at any point besides prime time, where we would eek out what points we could from taking what few fully fortified defenses possible. Our oceanic hours are good, but not capacity and it felt like ET was always at 100%. Also does not help most of the Aussie guilds REFUSE to leave spawn until they have everyone in. So as they are taking the shift we are usually down 20-30 players and at a disadvantage.

It really did not help us last week that SoS decided to all but ignore ET due to cowardice and constantly attack us whenever we were on the offensive in an attempt to get second. Rumor was it was a bunch of ET xfering to really give us the screws but I don’t know about that. All the more pleasure gained from rocking their kitten this week.

I don’t really think SoS was trying this week. After the ET griefing our server’s WvW and siphoning players off to their server. SoS doesn’t really want to face them again. They’re not fun to play against. So we made sure we lost so your server gets the honors. Enjoy!

So you purposely get beat a week of play so that you don’t have to get beat for a week. Seems legit.

IoJ won this week and deservedly so. I think they will be a stronger force against ET tomorrow and I hope they put up a real fight.

I think that most people will switch off a bit if it becomes obvious they aren’t going to win the match (which was pretty clear after the weekend) and many in SoS and FA probably did that (as did IoJ and SoS last week against ET).

Saying that I enjoyed playing FA and IoJ and the map was regularly split between servers with some close fought battles. The main strength of IoJ was they were the more consistent against FA and SoS 24/7.

waeren.9743:

The 24 hours matches wouldn’t be the solution.

However the problem is there.

Almost all match-ups last week had the problem where 1 server was pretty much steamrolling the rest, there was a thread with score screenshots about this.

I can’t see how this will ever change considering the impact the off peak capping has on the end result of the match up. So unless a bunch of servers have the same wvw population at any given point in time (or have it balanced out over time) there will never be decent competition.

There you have your answer.

Well it has changed this week matches are generally much closer.

Raze.5420:

I would rather stab my eyes out with a cucumber than join a 200 man zerg and faceroll my way to a win.

Ouch that would hurt (i think)

Thankyou for putting this thread up!

The “night capping” threads I find really amusing. They go from “Please oceanics come to my server and then we’ll beat hoD” to “it’s not fair they have oceanics and we don’t so they don’t deserve to win”.

Funny thing is I can’t recall ever seeing any oceanic players using server imbalance as an excuse for losing.

Kracin.6078:

lollie.5816:

It’s kitten rude. These people calling for nerfs during our only peak hours need to go get an education. THE WORLD IS ROUND – DEAL WITH IT.

the world is round, the problem is not NA and its not oceanic…. its when only 1 server has the majority of both on it. because we know there are lots of NA servers, and there are some pure oceanic with some sprinkled NA… and then there is 1 server with the majority of both.

Correct. Some smart NA guilds have been moving into IoJ in the last week, and SoS would more than welcome NA timezone people onto our server where we are lots of oceanic and a big gap with NA primetime.

Not going to happen.

Imagine if this was put in place. SoS has a large Oceanic player base, and a very small NA turnout. So servers playing SoS would not be able to put anyone into WvW during NA primetime.

But maybe that might encourage NA guilds to move to SoS – you’re all more than welcome

SmokeyNYY.7841:

The third place will be booted down to the 2nd tier worlds. Whoever gets third will have tons of fun pwnting everyone next week.

you guys aren’t going to cope when ET/JQ lose to one of the “2nd tier” worlds.

Kaine.3501:

My friends and I are not PvP players….we are ruthless blood hungry savages that have played arena and battle grounds till our eyes hurt so bad that we could barely look up at the screen…..we have skipped meal after meal that our mothers hand crafted for us every night……we are all still virgins…..we don’t buy cars, we buy bus passes…..our idea of detailing a car is putting a HORDE decal on it……we are all unemployed….we dress up to look like our characters before we log in to play………………..anyway….you get the idea…..

You’ll fit right in on ET. Enjoy

ANet has addressed the server transfer issue starting tomorrow which will curb some of Ruin’s dodginess. Can only server transfer once every 24 hours now. So ANet know what’s going on.

And ET has a medium size server pop for a reason. People don’t want to move there.

Does anyone know if this runs under 10.6 snow leopard?